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to my understanding they (Deamon87 and the Epic CM7 squad) have been trying to get a build that meets the official CM7 standards in order to get the official support....the question I'm bringing to the table is why the Epic 4G (which is supposed to be a flagship sprint phone) didn't have official support from release like some other phones coming out have....with functional nightlies out within a week of release....if anybody has any information i'd really love to know!?!?
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Dameon is a very busy person. There are a lot of things still being done before he an work on cm7. Our epic's are such an underappreciated phone. Its just how things are... nothing more we can do.... except be thankful to all our devs we have =)
Who knows where our epis would be without dameon aand noobnl
Btw you spelled his name wrong =P
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Shoulon said:
Dameon is a very busy person. There are a lot of things still being done before he an work on cm7. Our epic's are such an underappreciated phone. Its just how things are... nothing more we can do.... except be thankful to all our devs we have =)
Who knows where our epis would be without dameon aand noobnl
Btw you spelled his name wrong =P
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Ohh ok I didn't know if it was a main project or anything...and yes the Epic 4G would be a very VERY boring device compared to all the other developers other phones have without them...but my question still remains why doesn't the Epic 4G get ROM releases from the official CM7 developer team like 20+ other devices get...even the other Galaxy S phones have official CM7 support...what makes us Epic owners different?
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None of those 20+ devs have epics? =\
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tony45x220 said:
Ohh ok I didn't know if it was a main project or anything...and yes the Epic 4G would be a very VERY boring device compared to all the other developers other phones have without them...but my question still remains why doesn't the Epic 4G get ROM releases from the official CM7 developer team like 20+ other devices get...even the other Galaxy S phones have official CM7 support...what makes us Epic owners different?
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According to the Cyanogenmod "Devices" page, Samsung Galaxy S (they just have one link for all the Galaxy S phones) is not supported. So...I don't think they do have official support:
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The Samsung Galaxy S is a series of devices that feature a 1GHz Hummingbird processor. It has/will be released in the USA from several carriers & under their own name, including the Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile, the Samsung Captivate for AT&T, the Samsung Fascinate for Verizon & the Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint.
Not officially supported by CyanogenMod"
Straight from their web site.
In my understanding, it was because some of the base driver files required software from Samsung, that Samsung will not release, causing the need for the drivers to be totally rewritten and/or made from scratch
As such, I got the impression that once all the drivers have been written/created, official support would be forth coming, but until then, it was not available.
that is just my educated guess from all I have read on the subject though...
well now that the nexus s with 4g wimax is out perhaps the epic 4g will get some sort of rom based off that... I say give it a few days... As we know the nexus s has 2.3.4 now...
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According to the Cyanogenmod "Devices" page, Samsung Galaxy S (they just have one link for all the Galaxy S phones) is not supported. So...I don't think they do have official support:
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The Samsung Galaxy S is a series of devices that feature a 1GHz Hummingbird processor. It has/will be released in the USA from several carriers & under their own name, including the Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile, the Samsung Captivate for AT&T, the Samsung Fascinate for Verizon & the Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint.
Not officially supported by CyanogenMod"
Straight from their web site.
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I just checked the captivate and vibrant forums under development and they both have fully functional versions of CM7 with various custom kernals...the only other Galaxy S device in the same developmental boat as us is the Fascinate....the Vibrant & Captivate forums also have instructional links to the CM7 website about flashing...so again I propose the question with a slight adjustment...why wouldn't the Epic 4G and Fascinate have official support...and does anybody know how we would request development from the official CM7 team
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It is very difficult and a lot of hardwork.
tony45x220 said:
I just checked the captivate and vibrant forums under development and they both have fully functional versions of CM7 with various custom kernals...the only other Galaxy S device in the same developmental boat as us is the Fascinate....the Vibrant & Captivate forums also have instructional links to the CM7 website about flashing...so again I propose the question with a slight adjustment...why wouldn't the Epic 4G and Fascinate have official support...and does anybody know how we would request development from the official CM7 team
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Somebody has to make the time to do the hardwork and have the know how to figure out how to convert the Samsung Epic Drivers. HTC usually reuses the same parts each year so development is simple. But on the other hand it makes their hardware suck and outdated. Samsung is innovative and they don't want their secrets out their for anybody to rip off and due to the fact they are innovative you have create new drive every time they come out with a new phone.
CM7
I am grateful for all that the CM7 have done. I a sea of glitchy ROMS, no of them fit for a daily, out of the gate, the Alpha ROM for the Epic has been, well, epic. A great ROM with wonderful potential.
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I am grateful for all that the CM7 have done. I a sea of glitchy ROMS, no of them fit for a daily, out of the gate, the Alpha ROM for the Epic has been, well, epic. A great ROM with wonderful potential.
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Hey hey now! If you appreciate the CM7 rom brought together for the Epic a year after it's release and right before its demise, that's great. But don't go badmouthing the fully-featured, very stable assortment of roms that have kept the Epic 4G alive for over a year now such as Viper, Bonsai, Midnight, and SyndicateFrozen to name a few! There are plenty of great roms that thousands of users use daily and have been for many months, you must be doing something wrong.
Also, check your grammar a bit:
"I[n] a sea of glitchy ROMS, no[ne] of them fit for a daily, out of the gate..."
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Hey hey now! If you appreciate the CM7 rom brought together for the Epic a year after it's release and right before its demise, that's great. But don't go badmouthing the fully-featured, very stable assortment of roms that have kept the Epic 4G alive for over a year now such as Viper, Bonsai, Midnight, and SyndicateFrozen to name a few! There are plenty of great roms that thousands of users use daily and have been for many months, you must be doing something wrong.
Also, check your grammar a bit:
"I[n] a sea of glitchy ROMS, no[ne] of them fit for a daily, out of the gate..."
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Sorry Random, you are right. I have only begun to root for a few months now and it is likely my ignorance that keeps me from having a smooth user experience. Admittedly I have only been flashing GB ROMs and have not tried the Froyo ROMs. I have only tried a few because the work of restoring apps and data gets tiring after a full week of work and a life to live. I apologize to all the devs that have worked so hard to make the 4G a better device and am definitely grateful for all those that have done so much and put in so much of their valuable time. Perhaps I will give one of the Froyo ROMs a spin.
As to the grammar, well, I have no excuse and feel deep shame. Please forgive me.
see, there's your problem. while the GB roms are fun, they aren't "daily driver" stable generally speaking. RandomKing's Phoenix 2.2, ACS's SFR 1.2, ERA's Simply AOSP 4.01, and many others are ones i've run for daily usage and they all have their strong points (mostly come down to preference) and are all very stable and fast.
yes, you are right, I got stuck on the GB train and couldn't get off.
Finally, this section took too long to get here!
Now, let's get to it:
Tell us what phone you are coming from, and if you plan on developing in some form for the E4GT.
I'm known as Mr. Z. I'm coming from an Epic 4G, and I plan on theming for this device. Also, I'm part of a group called Epic Revolution for Android, so I'd be looking forward to good stuff coming from us in the future.
Coming from the original EVO. Bought it on its launch date last June. That was my first smart phone so all I know is HTC. Will be curious to see what Samsung has to offer.
Unfortunately have no developing skills.
Coming from a evo. I got one on launch day and ran all the Snap development kernels at the beginning... Along with Netarchys too. The original evo development was so fun. I think this phone may bring that back.
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Coming from the Epic 4g, got on release date. Flashed everything high and low and plan to do so here too Can't wait till it comes out.
Coming From the Epic 4G ... I Can't develop at all
But i can help provide help to users who need it ...
Can't wait to get to know you guys ...
iSaint said:
Coming From the Epic 4G ... I Can't develop at all
But i can help provide help to users who need it ...
Can't wait to get to know you guys ...
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Good to see ya iSaint. I cant wait to get to know everyone.
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I'm coming from the Epic 4G... I'm not a developer or themer but I plan to contribute in any way I can aside from that.
Coming from a launch date Epic as well. Hope to learn enough to develop. May share my theme if I get it up to par with what some of the dev teams are able to offer. Glad to see a few familiar faces Mr Z and iSaint.
I am coming from the Epic 4G. I got it on launch day. I am not a dev but I test for just about every one that we have. Obviously, I will be flashing this phone quite a bit as well.
JohnCorleone said:
I am coming from the Epic 4G. I got it on launch day. I am not a dev but I test for just about every one that we have. Obviously, I will be flashing this phone quite a bit as well.
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Yes, "The Tester" is going to be busy.
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Hello everyone. I still have my Evo 4G, tried many ROMs and kernels, and made a few things myself.
Samsung has left a bad taste in my mouth from their previous phones, but the E4GT is too appealing not to try. I'll definitely take this phone for a spin. I know a bit about android and can find my way around, so I'll do my best to help out and add to this community if I keep this phone.
Coming from an Epic 4G. Been waiting months for this phone! hopefully it doesn't take me too long to get used to not having a physical keyboard.
coiledwire said:
Hello everyone. I still have my Evo 4G, tried many ROMs and kernels, and made a few things myself.
Samsung has left a bad taste in my mouth from their previous phones, but the E4GT is too appealing not to try. I'll definitely take this phone for a spin. I know a bit about android and can find my way around, so I'll do my best to help out and add to this community if I keep this phone.
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Nice, I hope we get a lot of developers.
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I'm on the fence still. I'm thinking about giving my evo 3d to my wife so I can pick up the gs2. I'm gonna have to take it for an in store test run run on Saturday to see if I like the larger display.
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Coming from the Evo 4G, I plan to try and provide as much tech support for the device as I can, just like on the Evo forums.
It looks like we're going to have an awesome community behind this beastly device.
Hero - EVO - Nexus S 4G - Epic Touch.
Can't wait for this phone...crazy powerhouse. I may go back to the Nexus S 4G depending on how long ICS takes to come to the Epic Touch. But I'm keeping both.
Considering the ET4G still... I still have my epic 4g, had it since launch. Also had an evo from launch as well as the og droid so I've been with android for some time. I'm learning java and android development but I'm still in early stages... I'll be trolling these forums for a while to see how development picks up around here and if it turns out well i will surely be making the jump.
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Im coming from the Epic 4G. I hated the keyboard but bought it anyways because all the hype going on about the galaxy s. I rarely used the keyboard, partly because it skipped keys.
Ill be picking up my epic touch on friday. Im excited about this beast!
Hi,
Im Ravi, im coming from the epic 4g, and im not a dev or themer, but Im good at helping ppl out, answering Qs and beta testing.
Also, i say we get an IRC up and running for this!
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Ok i got an IRC channel up and running for this
freenode
#epic-touch4g
Hey all, let me be very candid. I am coming from the OG EVO camp and we had an excellent set of developers (toast, TEAMWIN, Unrevoked,etc...)
My main concern with Samsung, is that most Samsung users say "You better like what you get when you buy it, because that's how it will stay". Now, I know that Samsung will likely update the E4GT some, but probably not as much as HTC does.
This being said, have those of you that are previous Android/Samsung owners (such as Epic 4G) experienced a good set of devs and development for Samsung products? I am seeing Team ACS pop up, but I don't know much about them. Do you feel like Samsung's lack of support down the road for E4GT will be made up for for the Samsung devs here at XDA? Thanks for any feedback, this pretty much seems like the best phone ever produced...
adma84 said:
Hey all, let me be very candid. I am coming from the OG EVO camp and we had an excellent set of developers (toast, TEAMWIN, Unrevoked,etc...)
My main concern with Samsung, is that most Samsung users say "You better like what you get when you buy it, because that's how it will stay". Now, I know that Samsung will likely update the E4GT some, but probably not as much as HTC does.
This being said, have those of you that are previous Android/Samsung owners (such as Epic 4G) experienced a good set of devs and development for Samsung products? I am seeing Team ACS pop up, but I don't know much about them. Do you feel like Samsung's lack of support down the road for E4GT will be made up for for the Samsung devs here at XDA? Thanks for any feedback, this pretty much seems like the best phone ever produced...
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Comparing the OG Epic 4G dev community to the Epic Touch 4G community can't work. This device is MUCH more popular. Either way ACS has the most popular ROMs on the OG Epic 4G also.
Dulanic said:
Comparing the OG Epic 4G dev community to the Epic Touch 4G community can't work. This device is MUCH more popular. Either way ACS has the most popular ROMs on the OG Epic 4G also.
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Not sure what you meant since the EVO was exceedingly popular. I am pleased to see teams like ACS stepping up so soon.
adma84 said:
Not sure what you meant since the EVO was exceedingly popular. I am pleased to see teams like ACS stepping up so soon.
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He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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Agree
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JohnCorleone said:
He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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Devs got 2.3 running well on the Samsung Moment, and even have CM7 working (mostly) on it. The dev community are the ones that fixed the infamous data lock problem, not Samsung.
The ET4G has FAR more interest by devs than the Moment ever did, so I would not be worried at all about development.
You'll just need to look around and take a little bit from each community... ACS, XDA and SDX are all great resources.
JohnCorleone said:
He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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OHH, that makes sense. In other words, you think development of this phone will more closely parallel the development of the International GS2 because it's more similar? That's very exciting news. So far I have heard @lithid may come over and even rumors of @calkulin, which are two great names from the EVO 4G camp
theres no support like htc dev support...#just sayin...
Why have we been porting from the nexus s 4g? Wouldnt it be easier to port from the fascinate as it is basically the same phone minus 4g and keyboard?
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Why have we been porting from the nexus s 4g? Wouldnt it be easier to port from the fascinate as it is basically the same phone minus 4g and keyboard?
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We're not porting from the Nexus S 4G. Decad3nce is a member of the CyanogenMod Team as Maintainer of the repo as far as I'm aware. We're going off of the actual repo for CM which due to Samsung's nature and hardware we are taking it slow but making great strides in doing so. The fascinate has never been and will never be the same phone as ours. There is nothing similar except the fact that we're both Galaxy S devices. There's a reason why it and the captivate both have it and we do not, because we're beyond the same mindset to get it working.
Waiting for a miracle to happen. -.-
When wil dev start making lollipop for epic 4g touch. Its already there for the original samsung galaxy s2. CM devs please read this post and port the s2 i1900 lollipop to epic 4g touch.
If any developers are making a lollipop rom for e4gt please post in this thread.
An epic 4g touch user
Yes, a miracle will happen, but not anytime soon. Dastin is in the middle of testing 5.x.x for the Epic Touch but he's also busy with life. Give it time and subscribe to the original / android dev or follow him on forums and you'll know if a rom kicks in for LP.