Have I missed something or does the Sony ZL not support encryption of the SD storage card? My company requires this particular policy to be native on the device (ie: cannot use a third party app like Touchdown). I cannot figure out how to encrypt the storage card and get it to accept the ActiveSync policy. I know it is that exact policy since I have the email admin test by removing just that option and the phone will then sync fine with the Exchange server.
So am I screwed? I can't believe Sony would do this since so many companies enforce this policy and almost every other newer Android phone supports this.
Thanks!
I have the same phone and it looks like the Sony ZL does not support encrypting the SD Card. I have no idea why Sony decided to do that. Have you tried connecting it to Exchange with no SD Card installed? That is one thing I haven't tested yet.
Also it seems that even when you turn off device encryption in the ActiveSync settings the ZL will encrypt its local storage incorrectly.
So today I switched back to my ZL from an S4 (I just like it so much better than the Samsung) and updated it to the latest firmware. I am an Exchange administrator so I am able to test different ActiveSync policies. To my surprise when I synced my ZL I was prompted to encrypt my SD card even though I didn't have that requirement turned on at the time.
After letting it run I then updated my ActiveSync policy to force encryption of both the phone and SD card and since they were already encrypted everything worked great. So basically I can confirm that the ZL now works with all the ActiveSync policies we use. Funny thing is that the ZL will now encrypt both the phone and SD card when you add an Exchange account even if those policies are not enabled.
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I understand the Samsung Captivate Glide has device encryption, where do i turn on thise feature?
Wait, what?
Aren't the Samsung fanboys the ones always laughing at HTC's and Moto's locked and sometimes encrypted bootloaders?
I'm talking about the internal memory and sd card memory, the bootloader is just fine the way it is
There seems to be something like that under Location and Security in settings..
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There seems to be something like that under Location and Security in settings..
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Nope, no option to encrypt the storage in Locations and Security.
So no one really knows if this phone has encryption?
I can't find any information about device encryption with the Glide. Samsung's specifications mention it, but that's about it. The only thing I can find in the menu relates to certificate storage, but that appears to be more related to secure applications, not encrypting storage. I came across a few mentions of AT&T removing encryption features from Samsung devices, but I couldn't get a clear reading on that, either.
tl;dr: totally inconclusive, sorry.
The following scenario has happened exactly four times by now:
I use two SIM cards, one in Estonia and another in Finland. I visit Finland every weekend or every other weekend, depending on scheduling. When I visit Finland then I use pre-paid SIM card that I load with credit in order to use unlimited mobile internet the same way I use at home.
When I visit Finland I swap by Estonian SIM card to Finnish one and when I return I swap it back.
Problem is that exactly after six SIM card swaps, Google Cloud to Device Messaging service stops working and Galaxy Nexus blue connection bars stay permanently gray. This means that push notifications will not work and gTalk cannot connect at all. Other Google services - including Market/Play - work well if they can function without C2DM.
After such an event I have to restore my device to factory settings each and every time. After I do this, the device starts working again. So far I have not found a way to get C2DMA working without having to factory reset my device. The device has no developer or other rogue apps installed that might affect this in any way.
Clearing data of Android Messaging Service and other background Android services has not helped. Rebooting has not helped. Changing from data to WiFi, or to Airplane mode and back, has not worked.
My best guess is that this is some security or whatnot validation in Android code. Before Android 4.0, whenever you changed your SIM card (which I did just as frequently on my HTC Desire), it asked for your Google Account password, after which C2DM worked.
But ever since Android 4.0, your password is not asked and the C2DM stops working after exactly six SIM swaps. I know that it is exactly after SIM swaps by checking my schedule and gTalk chat logs, where I have made notes of this.
I have reported this bug and looked for a solution for this before, but have not gotten an answer. Has anyone run into such an issue or knows what I could try to restore C2DM connection without having to reset my device again? I know that the problem is very custom and thus most users never face this issue, since swapping SIM cards this often is rare.
Wow, this is insane. I actually worked it out! I had reset my phone THREE TIMES in the past handful months because of this!
Apparently what happens that there's a bug in Android that switches SIM card setting after multiple SIM card swaps. Android stores SIM card related settings internally somewhere, but apparently has a bug in restoring those settings after certain amount of SIM swaps.
I went to Mobile Networks menu and from there to Access Point Names and for some reason Android had switched to WAP service instead of the mobile internet one. This is a setting I had never changed and it's happened four times by now.
If you run into the same problem or your C2DM suddenly appears, then you should look at those settings first and foremost.
Anyone have any experience with encryption on the One? My work email is requiring it and I've heard bad things about speed and battery life on other phones.
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Anyone have any experience with encryption on the One? My work email is requiring it and I've heard bad things about speed and battery life on other phones.
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I'm a network admin at my work, and I setup our Exchange policy, also requiring encryption on mobile devices. I added my work email to my personal One, and the encryption process took around 30 minutes (rough guess). Only had the phone a few days before I did this, but I haven't really noticed any performance of battery difference. I think this was a problem on older devices, but I've never used encryption previously on my personal devices, so I can't speak for anything else for sure. But, this phone is a beast, no issues for me.
I ran a AnTuTu Benchmark test on the stock ROM (I'm not unlocked ), with the result: 26044.
Attached some photos, 1 of the benchmark, 2 showing proof on the Exchange policy and encryption.
Edit: It wouldn't let my upload more than one image, not sure what's going on...
I have the other pictures saved with same date and time, maybe I can upload them in a few mins.
There exists an app that sandboxes exchange so you can enable all their nonsense but it does not actually touch anything. I do not remember what it is called sadly.
Putting your work exchange email on your personal phone is a dumb move. As soon as you do this you no longer "own" your phone, your employer does. They can fully wipe your phone at any time. People need to stop allowing this practice entirely. If your work requires you to have exchange email on a mobile device, make them provide it. Stop using YOUR device, and footing the bill, for a tool and service that THEY should provide. It's amazing how you get to pay for it, but they want complete control.
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Putting your work exchange email on your personal phone is a dumb move. As soon as you do this you no longer "own" your phone, your employer does. They can fully wipe your phone at any time. People need to stop allowing this practice entirely. If your work requires you to have exchange email on a mobile device, make them provide it. Stop using YOUR device, and footing the bill, for a tool and service that THEY should provide. It's amazing how you get to pay for it, but they want complete control.
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for some people its a personal choice for convenience.
For others, their employer pays their cellphone bill while allowing the employee to choose the device. My wife's work is like that, but they don't seem to require even a secure lockscreen.
Put me on the "Personal Choice" list. I have been running exchange on my devices for years for my corporate email. No encryption forced but the security does require a pass-code. The other option would be to carry 2-3 devices...not my cup of tea.
I highly recommend Moxier Mail. My company requires that my entire phone is encrypted and this program was a good way to circumvent this. They have no way to tell that you are using the program. It is a bit pricey, but to fully encrypt a phone can take up to 16 hours depending on what you have.
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for some people its a personal choice for convenience.
For others, their employer pays their cellphone bill while allowing the employee to choose the device. My wife's work is like that, but they don't seem to require even a secure lockscreen.
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Just giving a heads up. Few people are aware that your entire phone can be wiped once you do this.
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Like I said, I'm a network administrator at my work, and I created our Exchange policy, requiring a PIN and encryption. Exchange also has the option to control certain available features on the mobile device, such as the camera, or wifi, as well as preventing unsigned apps on the device. Like others have said, there is also the ability to remotely wipe the device from the Exchange server, or just remove the active sync account from the device.
I agree mostly with the above statements. I do not have a company supplied mobile phone, and don't really need one, but I did choose to have my work email setup on my phone for convenience, and for calendar entries. We do allow staff to add their work email to their own personal device, and that is why these type of options are available, so the company has a better control on the security and privacy of their digital property. I do not feel in any way that because I choose to add my work email to my own personal phone, that it is now company property, and I can remove my account at any time. I do agree, if the company requires you to have your work email on your mobile device, they company should at the very least pay the mobile bill, if not supply the device to begin with.
As far as the encryption, my HTC One took around 30 minutes to encrypt, and I have not seen any performance difference.
Attached are a few shots of the policy properties screen.
Edit: Another shot of the remote wipe screen.
Another thing to note, remote wipe is not necessarily a bad thing. I take some security in knowing I can wipe my device instantly should it go missing. Our setup has the option in the Outlook web interface so end-users can manage the device.
The longest encryption I ever did was an hour. 16 seems way too much but I guess it would depend on the phone and what was on the storage at the time.
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Another thing to note, remote wipe is not necessarily a bad thing. I take some security in knowing I can wipe my device instantly should it go missing. Our setup has the option in the Outlook web interface so end-users can manage the device.
The longest encryption I ever did was an hour. 16 seems way too much but I guess it would depend on the phone and what was on the storage at the time.
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+1, forgot to mention users can also remotely wipe their own device in the OWA.
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Another thing to note, remote wipe is not necessarily a bad thing. I take some security in knowing I can wipe my device instantly should it go missing. Our setup has the option in the Outlook web interface so end-users can manage the device.
The longest encryption I ever did was an hour. 16 seems way too much but I guess it would depend on the phone and what was on the storage at the time.
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It is a long time but when you have a 32 gig on storage w/ 32 gig sd card filled with vids, pics, and music it will get take a while for it to go.
Can we have a class action suite against Google, the carriers and/or the phone vendors (Samsung in this case) for taking meaningful SD support away
1. sue to get reimbursed for the cost of the SD card which is now nearly useless.
2. sue them due to conflict of interest where the carrier charges for bandwidth-- when we use cloud storage instead of SD storage and where google is effectively forcing us to use the cloud-- which google has a great interest in.
Even a symbolic attempt at a class action suit maybe useful.
Maybe that will force google to pay attention to the user rather than to their big plans which they force on us?
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Can we have a class action suite against Google, the carriers and/or the phone vendors (Samsung in this case) for taking meaningful SD support away
1. sue to get reimbursed for the cost of the SD card which is now nearly useless.
2. sue them due to conflict of interest where the carrier charges for bandwidth-- when we use cloud storage instead of SD storage and where google is effectively forcing us to use the cloud-- which google has a great interest in.
Even a symbolic attempt at a class action suit maybe useful.
Maybe that will force google to pay attention to the user rather than to their big plans which they force on us?
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1.No.
2.No.
3.They're not forcing you to do anything.
4.Not only would Google laugh, they'd think its an April fools joke.
5. SDcard policy changed in 5.0
Lol .
Pp.
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Can we have a class action suite against Google, the carriers and/or the phone vendors (Samsung in this case) for taking meaningful SD support away
1. sue to get reimbursed for the cost of the SD card which is now nearly useless.
2. sue them due to conflict of interest where the carrier charges for bandwidth-- when we use cloud storage instead of SD storage and where google is effectively forcing us to use the cloud-- which google has a great interest in.
Even a symbolic attempt at a class action suit maybe useful.
Maybe that will force google to pay attention to the user rather than to their big plans which they force on us?
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You do realize you can get the SD card back to the way it was pretty easily?
Google or search this forum for several apps, or for the settings you need to change to get it to work.
There is even a free app on the Play Store.
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You do realize you can get the SD card back to the way it was pretty easily?
Google or search this forum for several apps, or for the settings you need to change to get it to work.
There is even a free app on the Play Store.
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Searching is so yesterday! I should be able to come and ask any question that pops into my head regardless of how many times it's been answered; I mean.. this IS a support site, right?
I'm obviously kidding. I just wanted to chime in.. what's so different about KitKat's SD policy and JellyBean? I mean, other than that SDFix app which I haven't had to use since KitKat first came out, I haven't noticed any difference in accessing the extSdCard between 4.2.2 up to 4.4.4. I assume most custom ROMs have the fix built right in? That could be why I haven't noticed it now that I think of it...
I can't find any fix for a un-rooted cell phone, and for the most part I am ok with the stock ROM and don't need to root... except that now my SD card is, for the most part, useless.
I also don't understand the reasoning for this: my apps are free to do what they want on the phone's internal card. They are just blocked from writing to the external card. They can read whatever they want from the external card as well. So they still have some access to my personal and sensitive information. I don't see the point other than trying to slowly phase out external cards and forcing us to use carrier/vendor's services. There are so many better ways to implement this if the goal was really security rather than to limit the use of SD cards.
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I can't find any fix for a un-rooted cell phone, and for the most part I am ok with the stock ROM and don't need to root... except that now my SD card is, for the most part, useless.
I also don't understand the reasoning for this: my apps are free to do what they want on the phone's internal card. They are just blocked from writing to the external card. They can read whatever they want from the external card as well. So they still have some access to my personal and sensitive information. I don't see the point other than trying to slowly phase out external cards and forcing us to use carrier/vendor's services. There are so many better ways to implement this if the goal was really security rather than to limit the use of SD cards.
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Well, for the first time ever, I am considering apple/iphone since it seems that is where Android is striving to be. At this point I may even consider Windows phone.
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Well, for the first time ever, I am considering apple/iphone since it seems that is where Android is striving to be. At this point I may even consider Windows phone.
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Please do, and yes we want to be iPhone
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Please do, and yes we want to be iPhone
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lol my sd card doesn't work at the moment but i'm not complaining (im on android 5.0 cm rom).
Hello everyone,
I am contacting you because i have many issues with the blackview A7 pro phone, that i have bought a week ago.
Shortly after my purchase many of the problems arose that are closely tied with the phone software (or so I believe).
First thing that troubles me the most, is the problem that is associated with the use of the SD card storage, that cannot be used as a place to store apps from my phone, except when I format my SD card as a internal storage. And even when I format my SD card as internal storage, i cannot see the correct value or my new storage (in gigabytes) because the old value doesn't add up to the value or the formatted SD card. The only option that I can use is the root if I want to move apps to SD card (!!!!)
Other thing is that internal memory is always reporting that I have 10.7 gb of memory instead of 16 gb, and there is no mention of where could possibly those 5 GB has gone!
I cannot root my phone because if I do this i will lose my warranty, or in the worst case, my phone will be bricked and it wont be useful anymore.
And I cant find any available root/roms out there on the internet except from your company and I am using the latest one that is: A7Pro-Blackview-V0.12-20171031_000220
One of the most intolerable problem is also the problem with wifi. The situation here is that any possible wifi network that i connect my a7 pro phone to, suffers from great oscillation and network loss.
Even if i am just a room away from ANY ROUTER i will have problems with oscillation from excellent to poor in just 10 seconds.
The other problem is the camera with its awful and poor quality regardless of the settings or application that i am using. Also the insult to injury is the lack of panorama option in the phones camera application. Other google play software cannot do the panorama option so well.
One other more tolerable problem is the complete lack of "look and feel" of the phones software and the inability to change or add other wallpapers or themes except when using the other peoples software from somewhere else (google play or any other platform). The built-in launcher3 is so poorly defined and so poorly supported that users are forced to change look and feel because of the awful design of the current software.
Does anyone know how can I resolve at least two of my problems (SD card problem and WiFi problem)?
Can anybody help?
anyone, please ? any help is much appreciated
is it possibile that i am posting this in the wrong sub-forum?
About your question, the first is pretty normal, every android since 6.0 have option to apply a extra storage with sd with formatting it ( i want rembemeber you that android not allow install on sd card normally, if not via root), also about your actual storage space again is normal, some gb are for file system and recovery, variuos brand have his own reservated space, so it can be changed from phone to phone. Since january is aviable a custom TWRP that can be installated trough SP flash tool, check on google. And for your last question is possible that is just a bug, so try to format the system and/or update your phone if aviable. Extra, for customizing yuor phone change launcher. Hope that will help you or someone else, there's nothing wrong in this low budget phone, every your question are common for any adroid device.