My car charger broke, so I'm in the market for a new one.
I know 2.1 amps should be pretty safe, but I also see some with 3 amps. Is that still safe?
What do you guys use?
Pretty sure the S3 limits the amperage coming in so anything 1 amp and above should work fine in a car.
Best Buy sells one by Rocketfish that's micro USB and it also has a USB outlet on the plug itself and it's not bulky at all.
I generally shy away from car chargers completely but that charger won me over with it's build quality and specs.
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Pretty sure the S3 limits the amperage coming in so anything 1 amp and above should work fine in a car.
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Is that to say that anything over 1 amp is "throttled" to 1 amp so I shouldn't bother getting a 2amp?
re: rocketfish.
I see a bunch on there around the $20 mark. Looks overpriced, just like everything else I've ever seen by rocketfish.
1000 amps would be safe. As long as the voltage is 5v your good. The device will only take a certain amount of amperage, and the output device will only supply what the device needs. Voltage is different, too much of it can damage circuitry.
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Okay, so how much can the phone effectively use? Surely 1amp is better than 1/2 for charge speed, but does 2 give you fatter charging than 1,or no?
According to BMW Pro my phone will charge at up to 1200ma on the stock battery and 2000ma when using my Anker 4400mah battery when plugged into a 2.1amp charger. I can confirm that the charging time for the extended battery is only slightly longer than the standard battery but still lasts twice as long in use. So I do believe the phone is capable off making use of a 2.1amp charger it just limits the charge rate to around .5C to protect the battery.
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I use a new Trent 2 amp charger and it works fine. I used to use a 1 amp Motorola charger and it barely charged couple of percent when I had bluetooth, music, waze, gps, and screen on during a 20 minute ride. With the 2 amp charger, I easily get an extra 7% or so after a 20 minute ride.
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So i just sold my old blackberry curve and along with it the wall charger i used for my MT4g
so i looked around my house for another corded wall charger as the plug-usb cable combo just doesnt work for me as the cord is way too short for my needs
well i found an older Moto wall charge PN# SPN5334A...it has the same basic specs are the mytouch plug part with the Input: 100-240~200mA 50-60Hz...but the output is 5v 550mA instead of the mytouch plug being 5v 1A
so the question is...will the different of almost a half an amp cause any serious issues other than maybe a slower charge? any potential for damage to the battery or phone or even the charger?
well any help would be great...thanks
No it wont hurt the phone, only way to damage it is to over amp, as in say it was 2.5 amps but however it will slow the charge down I recommened going to a a store that sells computer stuff and picking up a usb extension cord I got a 3 foot on mine and dont see any draw backs as I do with a under amped charger
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No it wont hurt the phone, only way to damage it is to over amp, as in say it was 2.5 amps but however it will slow the charge down I recommened going to a a store that sells computer stuff and picking up a usb extension cord I got a 3 foot on mine and dont see any draw backs as I do with a under amped charger
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yeah i never really considered extending the usb cable...i actually have a 6 ft extension cable sitting in my drawer
but i appreciate the info
No problem hope it helped
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No it wont hurt the phone, only way to damage it is to over amp, as in say it was 2.5 amps but however it will slow the charge down I recommened going to a a store that sells computer stuff and picking up a usb extension cord I got a 3 foot on mine and dont see any draw backs as I do with a under amped charger
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What's over amp? If the voltage is correct, the higher the amperage the more efficient it(charger) is, as the phone will draw as much as it needs to charge, in this case around 1amp according the factory charger.
Matching voltage is the important part. Too low of amperage will result in slower charge or no charge when using and plugged in at the same time.
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What's over amp? If the voltage is correct, the higher the amperage the more efficient it(charger) is, as the phone will draw as much as it needs to charge, in this case around 1amp according the factory charger.
Matching voltage is the important part. Too low of amperage will result in slower charge or no charge when using and plugged in at the same time.
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All voltage is the force pushing the amps through. Amps is the actual energy. Resistance is a factor too. Check the Watts to see that they match. But don't over amp it as well
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I meant there is no such thing as over amp. Amprage rating is for how stout the power supply is. A 5v/2amp supply can charge 2 of these phone with out issues. 500mA will charge but slow. Think of car batteries they are all 12v and the "long lasting" or "performance " ones will have better amp ratings.
Wattage is simply volt x amp, in this case here, volt is the constant.
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I meant there is no such thing as over amp. Amprage rating is for how stout the power supply is. A 5v/2amp supply can charge 2 of these phone with out issues. 500mA will charge but slow. Think of car batteries they are all 12v and the "long lasting" or "performance " ones will have better amp ratings.
Wattage is simply volt x amp, in this case here, volt is the constant.
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If by over amp, you mean over charge? Too much amperage causes a lot of problems, just like too much voltage can cause a lot of priblems
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I meant there is no such thing as over amp. Amprage rating is for how stout the power supply is. A 5v/2amp supply can charge 2 of these phone with out issues. 500mA will charge but slow. Think of car batteries they are all 12v and the "long lasting" or "performance " ones will have better amp ratings.
Wattage is simply volt x amp, in this case here, volt is the constant.
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I've seen phone batterys blow from to much amps... You can go + .5 amps max on a cell phone before things start to go wrong. And that isnt recommended for to long unless you want battery issues
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So did it happen with a 5volt output charger or something higher? I have seen 8v mini usb charger from Motorola around, that will blow out your HTC battery.
Also can happen if there is a problem with the phones charging circuit, not from a 5v charger with a high amperage rating. Now with a higher amp rating, and your phone has issues, the more amps is available, the bigger "battery blow" you can achieve.
Do I recommend more than 5v/1amp? not really, but can you use a 5v/2amp charger or a 5v/4amp charger if it exists? Yes. Is 1amp safer? kinda.
How do I know this? it was an amperage question I answered wrong at my every 1st job interview 11 years ago.
These guys put it in better words than I do.
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DOESN'T MATTER ..if u know the basic Ohms Law..its the max capacity of the charger.(or any source) the current regulating circuits will take care of the real charging current fed to the battery
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I charge my phone on my computers USB connection all the time, all computers have a maximum of 500mA USB current.
Amps are pulled from the charger, not pushed to the phone.
Voltages are pushed to the phone, not pulled from the charger.
If the phone draws too much current from the charger, the voltage drops to a point where the maximum power (P (Watt) = U (Voltage) * I (Amps)) of the charger isn't exceeded.
According to the USB specification you need at least 200mA with 500mA recommended +5VDC.
More is never a problem, you could even use a 50A power supply without breaking your phone. Practically spoken: I wouldn't do that.
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is there any potential damage to my GS2?
the touchpad charger is rated at 2A max output and it charges the phone FAST.
around 5% in 10 minutes. so full charge in 3 hr and 15 minutes.
I have been using this for a few weeks now. No apparent issues, however could i be frying the battery?
I don't know the Amps of the OEM charger cuz my phone didn't come with one 9
(eBay) I'll assume its around 550 mAh-650 mAh.
I was using an Apple iPhone 4 charger (1A) before on my Nexus S as it was faster than the oem as well.
I picked up the HP chargers at Staples on clearance (obviously) for like $8.
I use the same time charger, and I see no negative effects. Your better off using it rather than some ebay knockoff.
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3hrs 15 minutes means it is charging the phone at a rate of approximately 600ma/hr (1875mah battery /600 mah charge rate = 3.13 hrs) which is exactly as it should be. Phone will not charge at more than 600-700mah no matter what the charger outputs so you have "power to spare" (but not power to use). So it is perfecly fine. You could use a 100AMP charger if you wanted since the phone will only "take" what it was designed to take. Charge rate is current limited by the chipset in the phone + the kernel for protection. If it were using the full 2amps it would fully charge from ZERO to FULL in around 50 minutes then probably explode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0M-ZX2DBxY
so how does that explain the OEM chargers being so ridiculously slow?
are they not in the 500-600 mAh range? when i first got my phone the battery was dead drained. too more than 8 hrs to get full. this was with my Nexus S charger.
I'm not saying the phone is drawing a full 2A of current, but im sure the higher rating doesn't hurt. realistically that's the MAX peak this charger can pump out. Real world, usage, it probably barely breaks 1A on any given day.
on a related note, i KNOW USB cable quality and length play a big role in charging speed.
using an extension USB cable, or cheap one, can easily DOUBLE the charging time.
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so how does that explain the OEM chargers being so ridiculously slow?
are they not in the 500-600 mAh range? when i first got my phone the battery was dead drained. too more than 8 hrs to get full. this was with my Nexus S charger.
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Good question. The output rating of a charger is rated when it is NOT UNDER LOAD. When you put it under load output drops. A 2amp (2000mah) charger under load will drop as well but maybe to 1500 or even 1000mills. The 1000mills is still above the max charge rate of the device and will of course charge it faster than the 500mill charger when it drops to maybe 400mills.
If it took 8hrs either the charger was defective (low output) or way over rated or something else was at play. Also manufacturers will want to charge as slow as possible to avoid overheating or even fires or explosions.
I have a 120amp 12vdc power supply that I used to use for a 300 watt ham radio amplifier which is hooked up to a multiple cig lighter adapter socket which I use to charge my various multiple devices (iPad 2, 2 cellphones and a couple BT earpieces). I use 3 Scoche 2.5amp output USB cig adapters and the most the phone draws is around 600mah (again, not accurate but reference).
The only way to test is to put a meter across it while charging and see how much current is being pulled. The ATT Galaxy S2 was tested that way and was pulling less than 650mills with a high output rated charger.
Has anyone had any success with after market rapid charging solutions? I see the OEM model number of the charger that came with the phone is ETA0U61JBEGSTA.
Has anyone found a generic equivalent for this charger? The last 2 amazon ones I bought were really slow charging & took over 4hrs to fully charge.
I use the monoprice 2.1 amp charger it works great. It may damage your battery but to me it doesn't matter I'll buy a new battery in a year for $15 if I have too.
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=108&categoryId=10851&subCategoryId=1085102
It has 4 ports 2 of them are 2.1amp and the others are 500mah I believe so I can plug in my ipod as well
Also bought their 2.1 amp car charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00822J004?c=n&qid=1365830047&sr=8-2
Got it for $6.50 from Planet Mobile and fulfilled by Amazon. Looks and works perfectly.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00822J004?c=n&qid=1365830047&sr=8-2
Got it for $6.50 from Planet Mobile and fulfilled by Amazon. Looks and works perfectly.
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6.50? very cheap
After seeing this article http://www.androidcentral.com/acces...mium-charger-rapid-charges-android-phones-too last year, I picked up a couple for $10ea. from an online source that was going out of business. They are available for ~$15 today. This is the only thing BB offers that rocks.
For an inexpensive but quality solution, try Monoprice.
Edit: If I forget to plug in at night, in the time it takes me to get ready to leave for work, I am at 90% or better.
Just FYI, for those commenting about using chargers higher than 1A (1000 mAh), the stock kernel will only allow 1A of current to reach the battery regardless if the charger is of a higher capacity. However there are custom kernels (such as Perseus) that allow this value to be overridden, so that the battery can be charged with more than 1000 mAh of current. It is recommended to not charge the battery with a value higher than 0.7 of the battery's total capacity. For the stock 2100 mAh battery, you will want to set the charging value to 1470 mAh or less.
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I use the monoprice 2.1 amp charger it works great. It may damage your battery but to me it doesn't matter I'll buy a new battery in a year for $15 if I have too.
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=108&categoryId=10851&subCategoryId=1085102
It has 4 ports 2 of them are 2.1amp and the others are 500mah I believe so I can plug in my ipod as well
Also bought their 2.1 amp car charger
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It wont damage your device. If you havent altered stock parameters than it wont draw more power than 1 amp
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I seem to remember seeing there was a cable mod to make the S3 charge faster? actually pull in more juice quicker? As I recall you had to modify the USB cable with a resistor in the right place?
I have plugged my S3 in a 2.1amp charger and I don't see it charging any faster than the 1.0amp charger. My wife's iPhone 4S however charges MUCH faster on the 2.1amp charger vs the 1.0amp charger
I'd like to figure out a way to make the S3 charger more quickly using a 2.1amp (or 1.0amp) charger if that's possible.... but I didn't book mark the thread when I saw it and can't find it again
Any recommendations for sloar portable charger for NOTE-2 ?
I bought already one and instead of charging it is draining down the battery! Probably because it uncomon 11pins USB. This happens when I connect to solar panel. When I connect to battery power bank everything works fine, but my main puprose was to use the solar panels.
Arthur
What is the power output of the solar panel your using?
I think its 0.5 W
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Someone chime in here if im wrong. But based on output power of .5 watts, and voltage being 5 volts. I see that as having a current output of 100mAh.
Home computers have a usb output of 500mAh and the standard home charger that comes with it is 1000mAh or 1Ah charger.
Based on that, unless my math is wrong, which it could be as i suck at match, LOL, your not putting enough power into your phone. This is why its draining.
5 watts would give you 1000mAh output, which is whats recomended for the unit. I would say anything less then 3 or 3.5 watts would be breaking even.
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Someone chime in here if im wrong. But based on output power of .5 watts, and voltage being 5 volts. I see that as having a current output of 100mAh.
Home computers have a usb output of 500mAh and the standard home charger that comes with it is 1000mAh or 1Ah charger.
Based on that, unless my math is wrong, which it could be as i suck at match, LOL, your not putting enough power into your phone. This is why its draining.
5 watts would give you 1000mAh output, which is whats recomended for the unit. I would say anything less then 3 or 3.5 watts would be breaking even.
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correct. Minimum you'll need to charge is 5W or 1 amp. 500 mA will just slow discharge. The charger that came with the phone is 2 A or 10W, this is why it charges faster. He'll probally need to charge the battery pack on the solar charger, then use the battery pack to charge your phone.
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Thanks for pointing that out _Dennis_ I have been using a 1 amp charger for mine, charging at night while im asleep. I was not aware that it came with a stock 2 amp charger. Ive got other 1 amp chargers set up from previous phones so i never used the stock one.
So my math above is off by 50% since i was basing it off 1 amp charging, and the stock is 2 amp.
Ok, so if I go towards phone/notebook solar charger, what would be recommended ? My Samsunf tablet comes with 19v 2A adapter so itlooks like if I have charger to supply this same amount of power it should work for Slate and Note2 as well. Right ?
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Is 19V the output? If so then NO. The Note 2 requires 5V 2A..
Hello Everyone,
I wanted a faster and better charger for my Nexus 5. After doing some research I came up with the following possibilities:
From Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Tech-Armor-Charger-Watts-Black/dp/B00CD0HGDE
http://www.amazon.com/iXCC-Charger-Charging-Samsung-Package/dp/B00FCISG6K
http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Charger-Adapter-Smartphone-Cellphone/dp/B00EDU5X6Y
All these chargers have 2 USB ports, which they are great if you need to charge two devices at once. They will charge 2.1A from one port and 1A from the other. My problem with all these is that they are bulky and two of them have ports that come out of the back. It can be difficult to use if you want to plug your charger lets say behind your bed or similar tight places. That is one of the reasons why I don't like the stock Nexus 5 charger as the USB cable comes out of the back and its only 1.2A
From eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-BlackBe...o-USB-Compatible-Phones-Tablets-/200976069483
This charger is exactly what I'm looking for because its small, the cable comes out of the side, and the output is 1.8A which is greater than the stock Nexus 5 charger. Plus at $3.99 & free shipping for a new charger is not a bad deal. Since this is an OEM Blackberry product the quality is excellent. Cable is around 7ft long.
Bought me two of them, one for the office and one for home.
Will post my results as soon as I receive the charger. Will test how much current the Nexus 5 can pull.
Update with results:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47468074&postcount=22
Update 2nd test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47501470&postcount=24
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Won't phones and batteries only pull the number of amps they are designed to pull? I didn't think it mattered how many amps a charger could proveide as long as it has enough?
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Won't phones and batteries only pull the number of amps they are designed to pull? I didn't think it mattered how many amps a charger could proveide as long as it has enough?
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I had tablets chargers that I would use on my Nexus 4 and the phone would charge a lot faster than the stock charger that came with it. I'll do some testing and will report my conclusion once I receive it.
The Galaxy S4 charger works great and really fast.
Meh, the stock charger is 1.2A so that's what I figure the fastest it will charge.
I had an SGS3 and using my dad's Note 2's 2A charger, I was still only drawing out 1A, which is what the SGS3's charger came with.
The Nexus 5 comes with a 1.2 amp charger. I HIGHLY doubt it's actually capable of charging any faster than that (it'd be a lot of heat for such a small device).
Charging amperage is specified by the device not the charger. Value on a charger is the maximum amperage it is able to produce. This means that Nexus 4 or 5 will not get more than 1.2A even from a 2A charger.
If the phone is designed to charge at 1.2A, it will charge at 1.2A max. HOWEVER, not all chargers are 100% efficient. That means your phone may not charge at a constant 1.2A through the stock charger if it is not 100% efficient. That is why you notice faster charging speeds using a 2A charger.
If you don't believe me, get an app like battery monitor widget and look at the power input when you are charging.
This is what I use: http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Dual-Port-Charger-Samsung-Motorola/dp/B00B8L36A6
Anker is a very good brand
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If the phone is designed to charge at 1.2A, it will charge at 1.2A max. HOWEVER, not all chargers are 100% efficient. That means your phone may not charge at a constant 1.2A through the stock charger if it is not 100% efficient. That is why you notice faster charging speeds using a 2A charger.
If you don't believe me, get an app like battery monitor widget and look at the power input when you are charging.
This is what I use: http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Dual-Port-Charger-Samsung-Motorola/dp/B00B8L36A6
Anker is a very good brand
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My Nexus 5 charges quickly with the charger that it came with. It is 1.2A. I purchased a new car charger that is also 1.2A now. It seems to work well.
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My Nexus 5 charges quickly with the charger that it came with. It is 1.2A. I purchased a new car charger that is also 1.2A now. It seems to work well.
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I actually just got my nexus 5 today so I can't comment on the included charger. I was talking about my old galaxy note and htc desire. There was a site that reviewed the efficiency of chargers but I forgot the name of the site.
I use my Nexus 7 charger (2A) and it charges way faster than the stock. They are only $15 on amazon too.
My HP chrome book has a charger rated at 3 amps. Charges the phone crazy fast. I remember seeing these threads and how people said it doesn't matter what the output is blah blah blah. It works. I just wonder what effect it has on the battery? I think its supposed to last longer if you charge it slowly correct?
I use nexus 7 charger. Takes around 15 min to fully charge at 70 percent
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Everyone is saying "its faster" but nobody has bothered to mention what faster is.
From 15%, I saw 100% charge in just 2 hours with Qi so I think these phones charge fast in general since Qi is only 1 am output.
If we could stick to real #s going forward then this thread would have some value.
First establishing some baselines with stock charger is essential. Also remember only some fuel gauges support actual current measuring and many apps attempt to calculate current by looking at voltage over time.
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I use nexus 7 charger. Takes around 15 min to fully charge at 70 percent
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Thanks...since I left my N5 charger in a hotel (!) I was having trouble finding a replacement 1.2a charger. So gave up that hunt and just got the Nexus 7 charger on Amazon.
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Everyone is saying "its faster" but nobody has bothered to mention what faster is.
From 15%, I saw 100% charge in just 2 hours with Qi so I think these phones charge fast in general since Qi is only 1 am output.
If we could stick to real #s going forward then this thread would have some value.
First establishing some baselines with stock charger is essential. Also remember only some fuel gauges support actual current measuring and many apps attempt to calculate current by looking at voltage over time.
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We don't need no stinkin' science in here!
A lot of people just assume their phone is charging faster because they're using a faster charger. Placebo at work.
Folks, if you want to properly determine whether a charger over 1.2 amps is worthwhile you need to do a proper test and remove all the variables:
1. Put the phone in airplane mode and shut down all apps and services. Best if you do this from a clean factory reset so the tests are on equal footing. Any apps using the phone will draw on the battery and influence the test negatively for that charger.
2. Up to 15 minute charging variances are normal. It's a chemical reaction inside of the battery, it's not going to be that consistent.
3. Make sure to charge from the exact same percentage level.
4. REPEAT THE TEST at least 3 times. If the test shows dramatic outliers, perform extra tests and make sure the test is consistent.
Does that sound like a lot of work? Yeah, but it's the only way you can actually make an assertion that one phone charger is faster than another.
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We don't need no stinkin' science in here!
A lot of people just assume their phone is charging faster because they're using a faster charger. Placebo at work.
Folks, if you want to properly determine whether a charger over 1.2 amps is worthwhile you need to do a proper test and remove all the variables:
1. Put the phone in airplane mode and shut down all apps and services. Best if you do this from a clean factory reset so the tests are on equal footing. Any apps using the phone will draw on the battery and influence the test negatively for that charger.
2. Up to 15 minute charging variances are normal. It's a chemical reaction inside of the battery, it's not going to be that consistent.
3. Make sure to charge from the exact same percentage level.
4. REPEAT THE TEST at least 3 times. If the test shows dramatic outliers, perform extra tests and make sure the test is consistent.
Does that sound like a lot of work? Yeah, but it's the only way you can actually make an assertion that one phone charger is faster than another.
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No. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I charge my phone all the time. And the second I used this charger and consistently from then on the phones charges about 1/3 faster. I really don't care what is "supposed" to happen. It just works. I get my charger back on Friday and I will prove it. The battery usage shows a giant spike. Upwards compared to the more gradual spike with the stock charger. My Google edition HTC one used to barely charge while playing games with the stock charger and now it charges as fast as stock when I wasn't even using it.
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No. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I charge my phone all the time. And the second I used this charger and consistently from then on the phones charges about 1/3 faster. I really don't care what is "supposed" to happen. It just works. I get my charger back on Friday and I will prove it. The battery usage shows a giant spike. Upwards compared to the more gradual spike with the stock charger. My Google edition HTC one used to barely charge while playing games with the stock charger and now it charges as fast as stock when I wasn't even using it.
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The HTC One's stock charger was only 1 amp, not 1.2 amps. It was clearly capable of charging faster, this phone not so much.
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The HTC One's stock charger was only 1 amp, not 1.2 amps. It was clearly capable of charging faster, this phone not so much.
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I was actually using the 1.2a charger from my nexus 4 as the "stock" charger. For the same reason, I know more is better.
lg g2 charger works really well for me