[Q] System Partition - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I finally rooted this old phone after all these years with the hopes of deleting a lot of the bloatware. I did, but now I realize that this has only freed up space on my system partition. I have an extra 50mb here. I am assuming there is no way to move space from this partition to my /data partition - even though they are both on the nand.
I searched the forums for a good hour and did not find an answer to this question. Do people use custom roms to avoid having wasted space in their system partition? I'm running the latest stock, which I rooted using htc, and I installed anon ra.
Thanks

mherlihy said:
So, I finally rooted this old phone after all these years with the hopes of deleting a lot of the bloatware. I did, but now I realize that this has only freed up space on my system partition. I have an extra 50mb here. I am assuming there is no way to move space from this partition to my /data partition - even though they are both on the nand.
I searched the forums for a good hour and did not find an answer to this question. Do people use custom roms to avoid having wasted space in their system partition? I'm running the latest stock, which I rooted using htc, and I installed anon ra.
Thanks
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Read this whole thread.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386911 ,then at the bottom of post 2 you will see some links,use the ones you need and yes you can free up space with DT's app2sd.

.. and to answer your specific question, a small amount of unused space in /system is normal and necessary. As you install more and more apps you may see this overhead decrease slightly. (Indeed, your OP indicates you have already observed this process in reverse.) You can get by with less than 10 megs. Because it is not available for any other use, anything much more than that is basically wasted space.
There was once a mod that attempted to realign partitions to reclaim this space. Search Google for "firerat".
The problem with this mod was that no scripts for flashing kernels or ROMs expect a non-standard alignment, which leads to disastrous results unless you remember to undo the mod every time you flash anything.
Note this mod is not much discussed anymore. This leads me to conclude that even if it still works, it's probably not worth the effort.
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Actually many of the long time users still use it. The problem is that the new sense roms eat most of the system partion up. Yet if you use an aosp rom you can get around an extra 100 meg depending on the setup. Also some of the newer scripts give you more space by using an extended sd partition.
I suggest if you are not comfortable flashing with fastboot not to use firerats mod. The mod wont really mess up anything but if you have forgotten you used it than you flash something else you could spend hours or days beating your head against the wall. Also if you change kernels then you have to flash a script to mod the new kernel to properly read the partitions.
To undo the mod you have to flash a new recovery through fastboot then erase partitions and reboot to recovery. Then flash new rom like normal.
Hope this helps you get an idea of what you are going into before you start.
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[Q] multiple roms?

I'm wondering if its possible to partition my sd card so that half of it can remain baked snack with everything I have set up then the other half to cm6 final then just flash the roms and kernels from the applicable side when I want to run it. So essentially I have 2 to choose from each with their own backups ext...
Possible?
Kinda like a dual boot box... Is there an app for that?
I don't really want an app for it. I think that would end up slowing the system down substantially. I just want to be to choose a partition flash the rom from that partition then do a nand restore for that rom(located on same partition) and have that side of my sd card already set for that particular rom.
cool idea. for now I just nand restore when I want to switch back and forth but it takes a bit of time. If it was as quick as rebooting to another partition that would be hot.
That's very possible. We dualboot our pc from Windows to Linux so should not be impossible. Someone just needs to make it work.
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Maybe I'll suggest it in the Dev section someone in there will have the know how to get this done.
well the rom doesnt install to the sdcard. hence the reason you can format the sdcard and still have a working phone. it installs to the phones internal memory.
your best bet is to do what is stated above. do a nandriod of the roms you want, setup how you want and a titanium backup of each to restore your settings.
So I can't just partition it and have 2 different "sides" for each roms information like I can't tell Baked Snack to look at "A:" and CM6 to look at "B:"? are we sure about this? Maybe even partition the memory inside the phone to 2 different roms then choose 1 from boot loader? Think I'm going to try to post something in dev section and hope they won't get too angry at me.
You know, i think the main reason this hasn't been discussed before is that previous phones didn't have the nand capacity to hold multiple roms that you would switch between. Even at 512mb it is pushing it depending on how many apps you are going to have installed on the phone on each rom that aren't going to be insstalled to sd.
Well I have 270 free on the phone and I still haven't moved every app I can over to the SD cdard. I think Cyanogen is smaller then most other roms the Zip is only 70 mb compared to baked snack wich is 170, well over double. I think it would be pretty easy to have enough space. This may hinder performace if internal memory is completely maxed out though, not quite sure.
wy1d said:
cool idea. for now I just nand restore when I want to switch back and forth but it takes a bit of time. If it was as quick as rebooting to another partition that would be hot.
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Yeah thats what I doo I have Fresh 3.1.0.2 and CM6 and I just restore depending on my mood.

Battery and Lag Isuues Starburst

I made a thread on this before and didnt get much help so this im doing it right.
Size of sdcard used: 8gb Kingston class 4
Size of each partition created and type of partitions made : Primary fat 32 (4.7gb) and Primary EXT4 (2gb)
Software used for partitioning (Gparted, Amon Ra recovery etc): Gparted
Recovery Software installed, with version and subversion number (Eg: Clockworkmod 3.0.0 R3): Clockwork Mod Recovery 2.5.0.7
Whether you are S-OFF or S-ON (If you dont know what this is, or you dont have the picture of a Joker holding a card, on the bootup screen, you are S-ON): S-OFF
Detailed account of steps you did for the procedure, with output/errors at each step as received from the Recovery/Partitioning software: This part im not too clear about
Did you do a full wipe from Recovery before installation?: Yes
If you didnt, what ROM were you running previously?:
Version of the ROM you installed, and the names of the Data2SD installer/reinstaller flashable zips you used (if any.): Starburst (1.3.3.5) – Standard Edition Data2Sd installer (Stable) VersionCode :1.3tiny
If you’re using a custom kernel, full name of the kernel with author name, the kernel voltage if known, whether you have an overclocked/undervolted configuration: None
Did you get any of the following messages in recovery? …………………………………….
sd-ext could not be formatted, file already exists?
Failure mounting ‘sd-ext’
Or a message similiar to the above?: No
My battery is draining in 9 hours of moderate use opposed to full days or more before rooting and using this custom rom. It also lags now, it will be all zippy then it will freeze for a few seconds or just lag insanely. Maybe the battery issues are stemming from the cpu working too hard trying to deal with the lag. Thats just me brainstorming but ya, if anyone could help me out here I would greatly appreciate it.
(As of now I am using a default homescreen free of all custom apps to see if the problem is stemming from one of them) EDIT: it made no difference so I am assuming it is not a running app.
(Also, it lagged as soon as starburst was installed so maybe the apps have nothing to do with it. Another issue is that when I press the power button to turn the screen on the screen dosent always turn on. This is another issue associated with the lag that is bothering me)
A note. The battery melts away when I start to use apps, the internet or anything that takes the phone out of standby mode. If I'm correct the kernel in the starburst rom overclocks the CPU to one thousand and something. Maybe this could be my problem. And if you think this may be the case could you recommend a better kernel to me? Thanks
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I think I may have figured out the issue. You see, when I first installed the rom I restored my default settings effectively replacing my new fancy rom with the old one.
When I wiped the internal memory (2 gb or so off of ext 4 primary I think) the external still had a few files on it from the last install of the rom. I left those there thinking they would be no issue. Could those remnants from my first starburst install be the cause of my issues?
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Joshua3109 said:
I think I may have figured out the issue. You see, when I first installed the rom I restored my default settings effectively replacing my new fancy rom with the old one.
When I wiped the internal memory (2 gb or so off of ext 4 primary I think) the external still had a few files on it from the last install of the rom. I left those there thinking they would be no issue. Could those remnants from my first starburst install be the cause of my issues?
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Wipe and repartition with Gparted, this time only leave 1 Gb for ext4. Dont install Setcpu and dont manually set vdd levels for kernel. See if it lags before any apps are installed. If it doesnt try restoring apps with Titanium and see again. Since you do have 10 posts, why dont you continue this qn in StarBurst thread? Please dont PM me. I rarely if ever check these!
Btw..you can also flash the Leedroid 2.2f from Kernels section of my site. It's known for its better battery life.
Should we erase all previous files when updating roms? Do they cause trouble?
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Should we erase all previous files when updating roms? Do they cause trouble?
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If your previous installation worked fine, no need to wipe. If you are coming from another Rom, you definitely need to wipe

[Q] Why does my desire freeze running custom ROMs?

Hey guys!
This might be some kind of a noob question but I honestly don't know what I am doing wrong.
I tried different custom ROMs on my Desire and they all share one major fault: my device freezes at least once or twice a day. I tried MildWild Oxygen, MildWild CM, and CM7.1.
First I thought it might be the ADW Launcher in CM7.1 because that was the first ROM I tried, but the others have different launchers and the problem prevails. Also I tried to lower the max CPU frequency but that didn't solve the problem.
Maybe it has sth to do with my partitions? Because I only partitioned my SD card but did nothing more like adding scripts or SD alignment.
Any help will be gratly appreciated.
You can try the file I'm posting below after partitioning your sd card. It'll align and convert your ext3 partition to ext4. This might help. Good luck.
PS: I couldn't post the file because of my low message count. You can search and find the file on google easily. The filename is "alignment_cool_2.zip"
The rom and its kernel could be the prob to .. try runny AIO 5.0.3 no freeze at all
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From my experience Runnymade roms were the most unstable roms that I've ever used. Since installing Mildwild's oxygen rom I'm trouble free for quite some time...
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From my experience Runnymade roms were the most unstable roms that I've ever used. Since installing Mildwild's oxygen rom I'm trouble free for quite some time...
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Runnymede for me was always stable, but I hate the lag. I multitask a lot!
First of all, thanks to you all for participating in this discussion.
I haven't had a single freeze all day and haven't changed a thing.
Is it possible that my problems disappeared all by themselves?
To be honest, MildWild 2.9 was the smoothest of the three from the beginning.
I'll keep you updated.
PS: Suggestions are of course still welcome
another thing just came to me:
could it be that I messed it up with the partitions I made? Because when I did it I felt like experimenting and made a 2GB ext4 instead of 1GB like I had always done in the past.
ok, I was in a bit of euphoria after I hadn't had a single freeze during the day.
Last night I had an unwanted reboot, this morning I couldn't wake my phone when the alarm went off so I had to take out the battery and on my way to work my phone crashed while I was listening to music and I had to reboot twice to get it running properly again...
Try using alignment_cool_2.zip after partitioning. I also don't use swap partition and set that to "0". Since mildwild released a new version of his rom you can repartition and then use alignment tool and install that new version.
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You can try the file I'm posting below after partitioning your sd card. It'll align and convert your ext3 partition to ext4. This might help. Good luck.
PS: I couldn't post the file because of my low message count. You can search and find the file on google easily. The filename is "alignment_cool_2.zip"
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I'm just wondering why you recommend using this rather than just using gparted to convert to ext4?
I also think people should be careful using it as I believe it will wipe your ext3 contents and therefore could mess up your phone. It may be possible to use recovery to backup the ext3/4 and the recover it but that is beyond my level of knowledge to be honest.
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I'm just wondering why you recommend using this rather than just using gparted to convert to ext4?
I also think people should be careful using it as I believe it will wipe your ext3 contents and therefore could mess up your phone. It may be possible to use recovery to backup the ext3/4 and the recover it but that is beyond my level of knowledge to be honest.
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Gparted doesn't always work too well for me. Also, after formatting and partitioning your sdcard, everything will be wiped out anyway. This file is very easy to use, plus it aligns your partition. You don't have to boot your computer with gparted. If you don't want to lose your stuff on your sdcard, simply copy everything to your computer and move them back after partitioning...
ElZeck said:
another thing just came to me:
could it be that I messed it up with the partitions I made? Because when I did it I felt like experimenting and made a 2GB ext4 instead of 1GB like I had always done in the past.
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That may well be the issue. I tried to create a 2Gb sd-ext partition (using CWM) and it crashed my phone as soon as it put all the apps into it. . I have seen it reported that it is known bug that it can't handle large ext3 partitions on the SD card, so I reduced it to 512Mb and all is fine.

A stable MildWild the phone can die happy with! 4.3 vs 5.5?

IMPORTANT: Stable to me means little to no bugs after months of use, not hours or days. This is not a thread for experimentation
Hi there,
I'm currently using mildwild 4.3 on my original HTC desire.
The intention to begin with was to get a ROM that would be as stable as possible and would cause me as little fuss as possible and basically I could continue using with the desire until the desire itself gave up with battery, too many falls, a cracked screen etc, none of which has happened yet so is still going strong.
This phone is for business use and I don't enjoy having to change ROMS like a lot of users on the site would, I just want something that works and will give me the least amount of hassle.
The phone does restart itself on occasion but this has happened with other ROMS I've used too.
I'm not too pushed about having the latest and greatest apps and gadgets which may be offered in the latest android versions. I'm happy with what 4.3 offers, anything extra would be a bonus.
Now the issue with 4.3 again is the internal space. Right now if I go to apps > manage > all, I see I have 129MB used and 19MB free, I've been using LinksSD as an extra APP on 4.3 and have moved all I can to the SD card, so I can't free any more space. Unfortunately if I'm giving it heavy use and get a lot of emails etc, the USED/FREE ratio changes and if free gets to about 15MB, then I get the space warning and synching to the phone stops and I can't get important business information which I sync with the calendar etc.
I've managed to keep it steady around the 19mb mark but what prompted this message was the release of a new app I want which takes up 30mb as opposed to the current one on the phone taking up 10mb, I'm afraid this will use up my precious few MB and will give me the synching issues again.
So what I was wondering is, does Mildwild 5.5 (or greater) handle the internal space in a different way that as long as I have decent sized SD card, I should never have space issues with the internal memory? This is important also as both my friend and my father are having internal space issues with their original desire and if I find a solution would like to help them too.
If you could please advise on the most stable version of Mildwild for the HTC Desire and if there is one that handles the internal space differently to 4.3 and would therefore never give me internal space issues as long as I have a decent SD card inserted. 4.3 isn't the answer it seems, but hopefully there is an alternative?
Stability is of prime importance, given the phone is used and is crucial for my business and may be put on my father and friends phone too, I need to make sure I don't have to touch any phone due to bugs etc, hopefully ever! I'd also like everything to simply "work", video recording, bluetooth etc.
Any feedback, direct links to suggested ROMS etc would be greatly appreciated! I'd prefer to not stray away from Mildwild as before installing 4.3 I did a lot of research and I'd rather stick to what I know.
I would stay with oxygen, but you should update to the latest version.
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I would stay with oxygen, but you should update to the latest version.
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Thanks for the reply, so 4.3 is oxygen and 5.5 isn't? What's the latest oxygen do you know and does it address the space issue? What are the main reasons you suggest sticking with oxygen? Stability?
cormie said:
Thanks for the reply, so 4.3 is oxygen and 5.5 isn't? What's the latest oxygen do you know and does it address the space issue? What are the main reasons you suggest sticking with oxygen? Stability?
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5.5 is an old CM7 based Mildwild.
4.3 is an old Oxygen based Mildwild.
Newer oxygen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353861
I would choose oxygen because it is the most stable custom android rom I know.
And if you would like more space, either change hboot, or check the sd-card partition guide in my sig.
I concur with MW's Oxygen-based ROMs as the most stable and reliable choice for your phone. However, instead of the most recent version (called MW-4.9 JG), I'd recommend version MW-4.4.
Why? Because up until that version, the ROM base that MildWild used was Oxygen w/ roalex tweaks, and from MW-4.5 onwards he went back to pure Oxygen. I find the roalex tweaks to be a very nice extra touch to the ROM, they make it feel like a more polished, finished piece of work.
Bottom line is, it's the best ROM I ever had on my phone, and after using it for months I've yet to encounter problems with it.
Thanks a lot for the continued support folks.
Ok, so given that oxegen is the most stable, I'd like to stay with that. Would there therefore be much difference between the 4.3 I'm currently using and 4.4 and then of course, 4.9? I do like polished tweaks, but if there's more stability in 4.9 I'd rather that.
So I guess it's either stick with 4.3, update to 4.4 or update to 4.9
Now, if I update, will either 4.4 or 4.9 provide a better way to manage the internal space issue?
I'm not very technical when it comes to these things, in fact, I had to pay someone to do a teamviewer session with me to guide me through doing the ROM etc in the first place so if I can avoid another ROM install, I'd prefer that.
Will changing the hboot (haven't a clue how to do that ) or following the guide in your sig coincide with 4.3, 4.4 or 4.9 do you think and if so, will completing the guide step by step mean no more space issues as long as I've free space on my SD card?
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Thanks a lot for the continued support folks.
Ok, so given that oxegen is the most stable, I'd like to stay with that. Would there therefore be much difference between the 4.3 I'm currently using and 4.4 and then of course, 4.9? I do like polished tweaks, but if there's more stability in 4.9 I'd rather that.
So I guess it's either stick with 4.3, update to 4.4 or update to 4.9
Now, if I update, will either 4.4 or 4.9 provide a better way to manage the internal space issue?
I'm not very technical when it comes to these things, in fact, I had to pay someone to do a teamviewer session with me to guide me through doing the ROM etc in the first place so if I can avoid another ROM install, I'd prefer that.
Will changing the hboot (haven't a clue how to do that ) or following the guide in your sig coincide with 4.3, 4.4 or 4.9 do you think and if so, will completing the guide step by step mean no more space issues as long as I've free space on my SD card?
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i'm also on V4.3, not upgraded because of reasons ZeGuitarist has stated, i would suggest trying to stick with it if you like the rom itself. the space issue is separate to the rom, and is because of two reasons:
- you're still on stock hboot. changing hboot allows repartitioning of internal space to use it more efficiently: currently on stock hboot your system size is 250MB, but the rom's system is only ~140MB, so you waste 110MB. this can be converted to extra data space by changing hboot to cm7r2. it's system is only 145MB, and you waste only say 5MB, and you get bigger 287MB data partition.
- you're using link2sd which you don't need to, the rom can use the ext partition by default.
what i would suggest
- backup all user apps (titanium), contacts (to google) and sms if you need to.
- nandroid backup so you have a safe point to return to
- s-off (use revolutionary, search for guides)
- change hboot to cm7r2, would recommend using fastboot (again search for guides)
- full wipe, reinstall rom
- enable applications on sd-ext by default here, do not use link2sd anymore
- restore apps
it assumes you have partitioned your sd card correctly using gparted or 4ext recovery, follow abaaaabbbb63's guide. you can check your space using apps like 'diskusage'.
this setup can have a lot more space for apps, you shouldn't have to manage your space issues on most roms as long as you know where and how things are stored before asking about "low memory"
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i'm also on V4.3, not upgraded because of reasons ZeGuitarist has stated, i would suggest trying to stick with it if you like the rom itself. the space issue is separate to the rom, and is because of two reasons:
- you're still on stock hboot. changing hboot allows repartitioning of internal space to use it more efficiently: currently on stock hboot your system size is 250MB, but the rom's system is only ~140MB, so you waste 110MB. this can be converted to extra data space by changing hboot to cm7r2. it's system is only 145MB, and you waste only say 5MB, and you get bigger 287MB data partition.
- you're using link2sd which you don't need to, the rom can use the ext partition by default.
what i would suggest
- backup all user apps (titanium), contacts (to google) and sms if you need to.
- nandroid backup so you have a safe point to return to
- s-off (use revolutionary, search for guides)
- change hboot to cm7r2, would recommend using fastboot (again search for guides)
- full wipe, reinstall rom
- enable applications on sd-ext by default here, do not use link2sd anymore
- restore apps
it assumes you have partitioned your sd card correctly using gparted or 4ext recovery, follow abaaaabbbb63's guide. you can check your space using apps like 'diskusage'.
this setup can have a lot more space for apps, you shouldn't have to manage your space issues on most roms as long as you know where and how things are stored before asking about "low memory"
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Hey,
Thanks a lot for that info, it looks like it's going to be a bit too complicated for me to do myself. I need the least amount of downtime on my phone as possible, but I've an android expert I can call on who can do these things over teamviewer so I'll see what he thinks and if he can do it.
So you're saying if I do the above, I can continue using 4.3 (or 4.4 I guess I may as well update to while I'm at it?) and should have a lot more recognised space to do for internal apps and the likes and then that's the most efficient way I can possibly make the most of the Desire?
I don't play games and I don't bother with any apps I don't have true long term use for, so hopefully if it's done right, that will be it!
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Hey,
Thanks a lot for that info, it looks like it's going to be a bit too complicated for me to do myself. I need the least amount of downtime on my phone as possible, but I've an android expert I can call on who can do these things over teamviewer so I'll see what he thinks and if he can do it.
So you're saying if I do the above, I can continue using 4.3 (or 4.4 I guess I may as well update to while I'm at it?) and should have a lot more recognised space to do for internal apps and the likes and then that's the most efficient way I can possibly make the most of the Desire?
I don't play games and I don't bother with any apps I don't have true long term use for, so hopefully if it's done right, that will be it!
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it's not that bad. there are guides for everything, most of us here have achieved everything by ourselves with no prior experience and without being android experts...
personally, i would recommend doing it yourself, that way you learn a bit too. much easier to work out for yourself if things go wrong. i would say that if you learnt how to do it in the first place, you'd understand the space issues a lot more.
but yes, this method just results in the same rom (or slightly upgraded one, think 4.4 had the same sd-ext settings, not sure), but with more efficient space layout for apps.
you could install 'diskusage' right now before you do anything, that will help the understanding of where your low space comes from. you'll see loads of free wasted space on /system
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it's not that bad. there are guides for everything, most of us here have achieved everything by ourselves with no prior experience and without being android experts...
personally, i would recommend doing it yourself, that way you learn a bit too. much easier to work out for yourself if things go wrong. i would say that if you learnt how to do it in the first place, you'd understand the space issues a lot more.
but yes, this method just results in the same rom (or slightly upgraded one, think 4.4 had the same sd-ext settings, not sure), but with more efficient space layout for apps.
you could install 'diskusage' right now before you do anything, that will help the understanding of where your low space comes from. you'll see loads of free wasted space on /system
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Thanks again for the feedback. Given the problems I've seen this guy face before when things don't go smoothly, I think I'd rather have him at hand. I'm pretty much watching what he does and doing the phone end of things so learn as I go along anyway. I popped him a link to your post #7 above when I saw it so I'll see what he says. I'm probably going to do 3 phones at once too as my friend and father are having space issues aswell so be well worth having an expert on hand!
Actually, any chance of a link to the correct 4.4 I should be going for?
I'll drop a link later, and add some more links to my personal recommended tweaks (like island3r's modded kernel so you can use smartassV2 governor, etc.). I'll update this post.
ZEDIT: Here's the links:
- MildWild-V 4.4: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zu8dquw2echwhd/MildWild_V-4.4.zip
- Latest Thalamus kernel modded by island3r: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31096646&highlight=smartassv2#post31096646
- AGPS patch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ggtgzme8bqscbq3/agps.patch.google.build.alt.v3.1.zip
- Stock bootanimation (don't flash this, manually put it in /data/local on your device's internal memory): https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3tek2gq9678lzk/bootanimation.zip
You're welcome.
Hit thanks pretty please?
Thanks a lot for that. I don't want to complicate things too much as I think I'll be doing this to 4 phones at the one time, my own, my friends, my fathers and a back up desire I have for business. What would the tweaks do exactly?
I heard back from my android expert anyway and he said the following:
To the best of my memory (And my chat records!), your phone is on the stock HBOOT with the standard partitioning. If you'd like to go all the way and repartition the phone and set up a stable ROM w/ Apps2SD and all the bells and whistles, it can definitely be done but everything will be brought back to a clean slate on all three phones (Including the contents of the SD Card) so they'll all need to be backed up.
Ideally, what we could do is...
Change the HBOOT to Cm7 R2 or Oxygen R2 (Which is a bit more lean and splits it 100MB system and 332MB data)
Flash the latest stable Cm7 or Oxygen based ROM depending on what you prefer
With clean and empty SD cards, we'll partition it for 1-2GB apps2SD and set up the ROM to use that space
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So I guess I should stick to Oxygen for both the Hboot and the Rom? So Mildwild 4.4 and what about the Hboot? EDIT: Just saw that eddiehk6 suggested Cm7 R2, Which would be best in my situation I wonder?
Consdering I'm having space issues in the current set up, so applications > manage > all shows 129mb used, 20mb free, how much can I expect that to change by? It wouldn't be worth all the hassle on 4 phones if it's only going to make it an extra 50mb or so, will it completely change the way the space is handled and I should have no more space issues with moderate use until the phone packs in itself?
Post updated.
I'd recommend cm7r2 HBOOT. You can expect plenty of space for user apps, if you follow these steps:
- Flash the ROM (and, optionally, the mods I posted).
- Go into system settings > applications > development > check "sd-ext" and reboot. The ROM will mount and recognise your sd-ext partition from now on.
- Go back into system settings > applications > preferred install location. Select sd-ext and reboot.
- After reboot, you can reinstall all your apps. With the above settings, apps will be installed on sd-ext by default. You can change this for any separate app at any point should you wish, though (for example, I like to keep widget I'm using on internal memory). This is one of the advantages of roalex's Oxygen mod over standard Oxygen, btw.
If you need any more help, give me a shout. Cheers!
Thanks a lot for that and for all the links above too!! Very much appreciated, I'm not too tech as I said but I'll point the other guy to your posts and we'll hopefully get all the phones sorted to make the most of them and they'll be stable as possible until they compose
ZeGuitarist said:
Post updated.
I'd recommend cm7r2 HBOOT. You can expect plenty of space for user apps, if you follow these steps:
- Flash the ROM (and, optionally, the mods I posted).
- Go into system settings > applications > development > check "sd-ext" and reboot. The ROM will mount and recognise your sd-ext partition from now on.
- Go back into system settings > applications > preferred install location. Select sd-ext and reboot.
- After reboot, you can reinstall all your apps. With the above settings, apps will be installed on sd-ext by default. You can change this for any separate app at any point should you wish, though (for example, I like to keep widget I'm using on internal memory). This is one of the advantages of roalex's Oxygen mod over standard Oxygen, btw.
If you need any more help, give me a shout. Cheers!
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Hi ZeGuitarist, is there anyway to port JB transition animations to MW4.4 Oxy? framework-res.apk ll do ?
Thanks
karthikus said:
Hi ZeGuitarist, is there anyway to port JB transition animations to MW4.4 Oxy? framework-res.apk ll do ?
Thanks
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You can't simply use a JB framework-res.apk on a GB rom. Best you can do is manually replace the icons and stuff
karthikus reminded me of one thing actually, in the current bluetooth settings on mildwild 4.3, it's not possible to rename bluetooth devices but apparently in ICS and JB it is, is it possible to get this functionality while doing the updates without risking stability I wonder?
It doesn't exactly solve my problem I posted about here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83280543 but it may help..
abaaaabbbb63 said:
You can't simply use a JB framework-res.apk on a GB rom. Best you can do is manually replace the icons and stuff
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How about replacing framework-res apk from latest MW Oxygen (which has JB animations) to the old version. Will it work coz they both have different base ?
I was telling my friend that I'd be able to help his memory issue and he said he found something that would give 2gb of internal memory, as opposed to the 332 or so I'd get from doing the methods above. It's described here: http://www.andreagrandi.it/2011/08/...emory-to-2gb-using-cyanogenmod-7-and-data2sd/
Does anyone know if this is indeed possible?

Note 8 5100 internal storage size?

Has anybody notice that the internal storage is not 16G. I have only 10G available even after doing a complete wipe and format. Plus when installing a small ROM like PacROM there is still only 10 or maybe 9.75G, not the 16G as advertised.:crying:
Tarasque174 said:
Has anybody notice that the internal storage is not 16G. I have only 10G available even after doing a complete wipe and format. Plus when installing a small ROM like PacROM there is still only 10 or maybe 9.75G, not the 16G as advertised.:crying:
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In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
Moscow Desire said:
In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
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Any thoughts on how to get memory back?
I was on civs ROM but I am going to try cm for a while
I have less than 2 GB of memory that I have used
And I only have 1.59 GB available out of the 9.87 GB that I have all up??
Will trim in 4.3 help for this?
Cheers
jocko6872 said:
Any thoughts on how to get memory back?
I was on civs ROM but I am going to try cm for a while
I have less than 2 GB of memory that I have used
And I only have 1.59 GB available out of the 9.87 GB that I have all up??
Will trim in 4.3 help for this?
Cheers
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Hey Mate, looking at your display, I would say for starters CM is reporting your storage wrong. I mean look at the chart. 1.5gb for data, which is ok. But look at the grey area in comparison.(only 1.9 free???) I would flash a factory type (rooted or custom) and see if it reports differently. If it does, then CM isn't calculating it correctly.
To be honest, I don't mess with the new CM builds anymore. Way too strange in some aspects, at least for my 2 devices (tablets)
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Hey Mate, looking at your display, I would say for starters CM is reporting your storage wrong. I mean look at the chart. 1.5gb for data, which is ok. But look at the grey area in comparison.(only 1.9 free???) I would flash a factory type (rooted or custom) and see if it reports differently. If it does, then CM isn't calculating it correctly.
To be honest, I don't mess with the new CM builds anymore. Way too strange in some aspects, at least for my 2 devices (tablets)
MD
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Thanks for the reply
it was reporting the same in civz 3.6 which is why I tried CM
I thought trim in 4.3 might help (I don't know if this is the memory type that trim helps recover?)
When you say flash a stock type ROM
Do you think flashing it with Odin instead of CWM would be worth trying?
Cheers
EDIT - fixed what i did was restore the first backup i made the day i rooted
it was stock 4.1
when i looked in storage under settings there was a miscellaneous files of 5gb that was not showing with either 4.2.2 or cm 4.3
it was a cwm backup that was not being read by the file manager
i deleted all of the files then flashed cm and now i have 8.42 gb
thanks MD
cheers
Jocko
Moscow Desire said:
In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
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When I do a fresh install I do wipe everything, Dev,Internal SD. I do it twice just to be sure. This is pretty odd. When I did these steps with my Galaxy Tab Plus I would get a full internal HD space. This just makes me wonder if there was really 16Gb for internal storage.
jocko6872 said:
Thanks for the reply
it was reporting the same in civz 3.6 which is why I tried CM
I thought trim in 4.3 might help (I don't know if this is the memory type that trim helps recover?)
When you say flash a stock type ROM
Do you think flashing it with Odin instead of CWM would be worth trying?
Cheers
EDIT - fixed what i did was restore the first backup i made the day i rooted
it was stock 4.1
when i looked in storage under settings there was a miscellaneous files of 5gb that was not showing with either 4.2.2 or cm 4.3
it was a cwm backup that was not being read by the file manager
i deleted all of the files then flashed cm and now i have 8.42 gb
thanks MD
cheers
Jocko
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No problem. I'm not real familiar with Sammy devices, although I am about to get an SGS III in a week or so. Funny it couldn't read the backup files though. Must be a peculiar thing with your version of CWM or TWRP. Seems they all store backups in different named files.
Glad you got it fixed though.
As for my experience, every time I ran a recent CM build (a501 and a701), it created directories and multiple sub directories called "0", and replicated back-ups and such. Ate my internal memory to a point where I just did a complete format on my internal and went back to a stock based rom. My own cooked rom's
Cheers
MD

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