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Or even flash it in At&T SG3. Samsung said the hardware are the same and have all the frequencies. i believe it might not be advertised this way from the carriers. Just thinking out loud.
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Eh, I dont think so. Not at first anyway... after some hackery it might be possible.
The US versions are all the same.
The International version is very different.
It will never work.
I have yet to get 5 bars on my SGS3. Kinda odd.
Not a good idea as someone already stated they're different. I did that once by accident with the original galaxy s. Flashed the canadian firmware for the US version of the phone and ended up bricking it. Not even a jig bought it back to life.
It should work with the at&t and t-mobile sgs3 just like with the skyrocket and t-mobile's sgs2
htc fan89 said:
It should work with the at&t and t-mobile sgs3 just like with the skyrocket and t-mobile's sgs2
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Are you sure? Can you reference someone or someplace that has had success with this?
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Are you sure? Can you reference someone or someplace that has had success with this?
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The Skyrocket forums.. the AT&T Note also works because it also has the same SoC. The international version will never work with AWS though.
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... if this is true, I'm getting an AT&T S3 at retail and then flash the radio to T-Mobile.
Chances are I won't resist temptation and get the t-mobile one anyway
Lekz said:
... if this is true, I'm getting an AT&T S3 at retail and then flash the radio to T-Mobile.
Chances are I won't resist temptation and get the t-mobile one anyway
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It hasn't been tested yet on the S3. And while it works on the Note, it is far from optimal. I have not read since the early stages but it would freeze and get awful battery life on T-Mobile.
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The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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what about the other way around, since at&t version is cheaper to get than t-mobile? My skyrocket had good battery life when I flashed t-mobile radio on to it...not sure about the note
htc fan89 said:
what about the other way around, since at&t version is cheaper to get than t-mobile? My skyrocket had good battery life when I flashed t-mobile radio on to it...not sure about the note
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The Note had abysmal battery life from what I read. Just wait for someone to do it (they will) so you don't have to possibly return whichever one you buy.
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It hasn't been tested yet on the S3. And while it works on the Note, it is far from optimal. I have not read since the early stages but it would freeze and get awful battery life on T-Mobile.
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Well the At&T Galaxy Note is what inspired me to think it might be doable!! The At&T Note i have is working fine with Simple Mobile and picking up 4g all the way. the battery sucks anyways even with the At&T modem. Also, you guys should note that stationed in Kuwait and im using the At&T Note with T-mobile modem overseas and still working great. Yes i have 3G as they dont have 4G here. they funny thing is that i still shows 4G and run about 19Mbps in most places.
I can get the international SGIII in Kuwait for $250 16G unlocked (NICE RIGHT?) but when im home i use the Simple mobile network(T-mobile).
you can call it greed but i want to have 2GB RAM, LTE, T-mobile 4G and the ablity to use every network in the world
I hope someone can make this happen
The reason it worked with the AT&T Note is because the T-Mobile S2 used the same SoC (Snapdragons S3). The US Galaxy S3's have Snapdragon S4's, the International has an Exynos 4412. The SoC's (CPU, RAM, Radios, DAC) are COMPLETELY different. It will NOT work. It's not software magic that got the Note to work. It's the fact that it supported the 1700 MHz frequency. The Exynos SoC's radio doesn't. You'll end up bricking the phone and requiring a JTAG.
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The reason it worked with the AT&T Note is because the T-Mobile S2 used the same SoC (Snapdragons S3). The US Galaxy S3's have Snapdragon S4's, the International has an Exynos 4412. The SoC's (CPU, RAM, Radios, DAC) are COMPLETELY different. It will NOT work. It's not software magic that got the Note to work. It's the fact that it supported the 1700 MHz frequency. The Exynos SoC's radio doesn't. You'll end up bricking the phone and requiring a JTAG.
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No one listens to me :'( thanks for the backup Fred. Haha
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To be fair, I never meant the International S3
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Product F(RED) said:
The US [GSM] models, ok. The international model, 100% no.
And as I understood, the T-Mobile version is pentaband out of the box (it will get AT&T 3G/4G 1900 MHz) because T-Mobile is moving to that frequency. So if anything, get the T-Mobile one and use it on AT&T if you don't care about LTE.
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Can you please confirm this, if I get the T-mobile version, and get it unlocked and use my existing AT&T sim on it, it will get 3G/4G speeds?. Would the international version also not give the same?. 4G speeds with AT&T?.
Thanks.
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Can you please confirm this, if I get the T-mobile version, and get it unlocked and use my existing AT&T sim on it, it will get 3G/4G speeds?. Would the international version also not give the same?. 4G speeds with AT&T?.
Thanks.
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I'm using the i9300 (International) on Straight Talk AT&T, which runs on AT&T's base network, and I get full HSPA+ (of course, no LTE). The i9300 runs on AT&T's bands, so if you used it on T-Mobile you'd only get EDGE (for now, because they're moving their network onto the same frequency as AT&T). If the T-Mobile version is indeed pentaband as I suspect, then unlocking it and using it on AT&T will give you the same data speeds as using the international version on AT&T.
guies Is it possible to make GS3 to run on CDMA network as some guies in this forum could hack the Verizon GS3 and have made it able to run on GSM network?
has any one tried before? if any one have an idea we can share the info in order to do that so. If you can notice once you use this code *#*#4636#*#* you can find CDMA only and other types of CDMA there and I heard that S GS3 has the ability to run both CDMA and GSM.
Let's give it a try
CDMA is an actual built in internal radio. Not every GS3 has it, only the CDMA ones do (Sprint and Verizon). They are global phones, and by that means, its only for GSM networks. I can't make a solely strict AT&T made phone, into a Verizon CDMA phone. That's all hardware
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CDMA is an actual built in internal radio. Not every GS3 has it, only the CDMA ones do (Sprint and Verizon). They are global phones, and by that means, its only for GSM networks. I can't make a solely strict AT&T made phone, into a Verizon CDMA phone. That's all hardware
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But then all US GS3's share the same hardware or SOC's...so by this running a T999 on the CDMA network should be possible. But then why would you? Tmobile already offers the best plans covering the best network out of all the others?
All personal opinion on the last part
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could you do a favor for me? just give me a software that can amend the radio band as I hardly want to try. From what I understood through reading some info in some forums, Galaxy S3 not like the older phones and it can run both GSM and CDMA and I hope that's right. I just need some help to try this in my international GS3. Let's try we are not going to lose any thing..........
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could you do a favor for me? just give me a software that can amend the radio band as I hardly want to try. From what I understood through reading some info in some forums, Galaxy S3 not like the older phones and it can run both GSM and CDMA and I hope that's right. I just need some help to try this in my international GS3. Let's try we are not going to lose any thing..........
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See now thats where you lose it. The international GS3 has a totally different SOC than the US variants, therefore you will not be able to run for any US CDMA network. You can flash any radio you want...but that's only if you want a $700 paperweight ofcourse
The us variants are WCDMA or CDMA 2000 as I want to try it in my country where the type is CDMA 2000?
so you mean if I flashed a radio that is not compatible with my GS3 it will damage it???? is there any app that can control the radio without out a risk???
have you had a look to this thread Set up Verizon Galaxy S3 as World GSM Phone (confirmed working) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314 I mean a way like this or similar to it???
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But then all US GS3's share the same hardware or SOC's...so by this running a T999 on the CDMA network should be possible. But then why would you? Tmobile already offers the best plans covering the best network out of all the others?
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No they don't. The T-999 uses an MSM8260a chip, for one. There is no CDMA hardware in the GSM versions.
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The us variants are WCDMA or CDMA 2000 as I want to try it in my country where the type is CDMA 2000?
so you mean if I flashed a radio that is not compatible with my GS3 it will damage it???? is there any app that can control the radio without out a risk???
have you had a look to this thread Set up Verizon Galaxy S3 as World GSM Phone (confirmed working) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314 I mean a way like this or similar to it???
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No. An international S3 is completely different from a US GSM S3. Neither has CDMA hardware in them. At all.
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No they don't. The T-999 uses an MSM8260a chip, for one.
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I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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The T-999 uses an MSM8260a which is for all intents and purposes, an MSM8960 without LTE.
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I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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I think only ATT/VERIZON/SPRINT/USCC use MSM8960. T-mobile lacks LTE and went with MSM8260a.
So only the ATT GS3 SGH-I747 would possibly be capable of running on CDMA. The international i9300 would not work on CDMA no matter what.
It MAY be possible to make the Verizon SCH-i535/USCC SCH-R530U version work on both CDMA/GSM. Currently the CDMA i535 works on CDMA 800/1900, international gsm/wcdma 850/900/1800/1900 and domestic gsm 850/1900 but no HSPA+ yet.
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only the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions are possible candidates of doing both full gsm and cdma.
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The T-999 uses an MSM8260a which is for all intents and purposes, an MSM8960 without LTE.
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Can you point me to the right direction? Because everywhere i look it says that the T999 does indeed have the MSM8960
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Can you point me to the right direction? Because everywhere i look it says that the T999 does indeed have the MSM8960
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30631797&postcount=3
the pdf he links has some good info. seems the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions all support both cdma/evdo and 850/900/1800/1900 GSM/WCDMA
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I think only ATT/VERIZON/SPRINT/USCC use MSM8960. T-mobile lacks LTE and went with MSM8260a.
So only the ATT GS3 SGH-I747 would possibly be capable of running on CDMA. The international i9300 would not work on CDMA no matter what.
It MAY be possible to make the Verizon SCH-i535/USCC SCH-R530U version work on both CDMA/GSM. Currently the CDMA i535 works on CDMA 800/1900, international gsm/wcdma 850/900/1800/1900 and domestic gsm 850/1900 but no HSPA+ yet.
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only the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions are possible candidates of doing both full gsm and cdma.
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Keep in mind though that CDMA running on 800/1900 and GSM WCDMA running on 800/1900 are not the same thing.
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Keep in mind though that CDMA running on 800/1900 and GSM WCDMA running on 800/1900 are not the same thing.
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indeed.. but if the verizon version can do cdma 800/1900... as well as domestic gsm 850/1900..
and atts version obviously supports all of its own bands... they wouldnt have a different SOC between them both. so it seems its only possible for MSM8960 to support all... yet somehow locking out whats not used by the carrier.
Guys, even if the Verison S3 works on GSM, that doesn't mean T-Mobile's GSM will work on CDMA. It will not.
If car engine X from car A, fits and works decently well in car B, that DOES NOT mean that car engine Y from car B will fit and work on car A.
You can ask the same question ten different ways and you'll still have the same answer; the T999 will and cannot work on CDMA. Yes, the US S3s have the same hardware, EXCEPT radios.
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Guys, even if the Verison S3 works on GSM, that doesn't mean T-Mobile's GSM will work on CDMA. It will not.
If car engine X from car A, fits and works decently well in car B, that DOES NOT mean that car engine Y from car B will fit and work on car A.
You can ask the same question ten different ways and you'll still have the same answer; the T999 will and cannot work on CDMA. Yes, the US S3s have the same hardware, EXCEPT radios.
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We've already accepted this... we're looking at ATT/VZW/USCC only. VZW/USCC will have the best chance of doing both.
guise, what are uscc and vzw? Are those US variants? Currently, l'm looking for the gs3 hardware to make sure it's somehow able to run Cdma. What should i look for in it's hardware ?
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guise, what are uscc and vzw? Are those US variants? Currently, l'm looking for the gs3 hardware to make sure it's somehow able to run Cdma. What should i look for in it's hardware ?
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Yes those are US variants.
have you achieved any progress yet?
I live in Canada, and we will be getting the quad exynos with LTE. I normally buy the international versions due to the support on XDA but this time around it seems the international version only has 3G at moment. Will international version come out with LTE as well? also with the different LTE bands its going to be tricky i think. The U.S. variant will get the same variant quad exynos + LTE. I assume it will have good support?
well international version only got gsm (3g) only
just get international version
Well, with codeworkx recently announcing he is no longer supporting exynos phones until Samsung provides the proprietary drivers(or something to that effect, its on RootzWiki) all support will suffer in the short term. However, I would gather that all versions will be popular enough for good support eventually. Also, Mr. Cyanogen himself uses TMOUS so I would hope we can get the ball rolling there.
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Let's put it this way, which model you think will sell the most? The most popular model will get bigger user base, so is its developer base.
Unless all Note 2 share same firmware (or easy to mod), international HSPA version (n7100) most likely will get update first.
I'm thinking it will be just as it has been in the past. THe HSPA International phone will be very popular as they have always been.
Sigh. Singapore will only have the international LTE version. Gonna miss out on loads of customs roms and rooting. Sucks!
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I came across this article http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/06/26/no-lte-for-galaxy-s3-on-t-mobile/
I'm confused about what T-Mobile's version of the phone actually has in it. I thought that Samsung used a different chipset for the T-Mobile version, which doesn't have any LTE chip, but has support for DC-HSPA.
This article suggests that the device has an LTE chip that is software deactivated / incompatible with T-Mobile's future LTE network.
So, if I was to unlock this phone, and go to AT&T's network, could I pick up their LTE?
Additionally, I thought T-Mobile's LTE would work with AT&T's current LTE phones? Aren't both AT&T and T-Mobile LTE going to be on 1700MHz?
As I understand it, the hw itself is not capable. Otherwise it should be possible to load up att firmware and modem and use it on atts network (theoretically anyway). But as far as I know no one has been able to make it work, and it was never able to to begin with.
Will atts lte and tmobiles lte be compatible for both carriers phones? I have no idea. But it wouldn't surprise me if it were made so that they're not.
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No. This phone does not have an LTE chip. It uses an MSM8260A and the AT&T version uses an MSM8920. They are the same chip but ours has no LTE.
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T999+aokp= oneness
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T999+aokp= oneness
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Yes we have seen those screenshots.. The board is an MSM8960 but the SoC is not.
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Who came up with the rumor that ATT's phone does not support 42Mb band?
According to phonearena it does,
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II-AT-T_id7500
and Wikipedia also states the same bands for both, if not ATT's version looks better because of the LTE duo-band support
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_II
Am I reading this wrong?
is there any hardware difference at all? like if you unlock it, are they fully usable?
I think while at hardware level there maybe the same for both phones there are other things that potentially will lock it from using on different network even if it's unlocked. like ril and baseband. I am not a coder or engineer so I don't know all of the detail.
Thanks for the insight...
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