crack password? - Kindle Fire 2 Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting

I like to test my programs on my daughters kindle fire but she keeps putting a password on it
is there a tool to crack the password?
(shes only 10 so doesnt need a password protected anything)

slenkar said:
I like to test my programs on my daughters kindle fire but she keeps putting a password on it
is there a tool to crack the password?
(shes only 10 so doesnt need a password protected anything)
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Be the parent...tell her not to do it, or take it away from her

soupmagnet said:
Be the parent...tell her not to do it, or take it away from her
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easier said than done

slenkar said:
I like to test my programs on my daughters kindle fire but she keeps putting a password on it
is there a tool to crack the password?
(shes only 10 so doesnt need a password protected anything)
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Answers in the question. Your daughters Kindle.
How would you like it if she kept taking your phone to add her apps, would you password protect it? Just because you are the parent doesn't make it OK.
Buy your own device and respect her privacy.
P.S. I'm 38 and have a 10 year old son, who has his own tablet.
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And when you have a 15 year old son you'll think different...
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mrkhigh said:
And when you have a 15 year old son you'll think different...
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I like to the think I will still respect his privacy, as I believe we have bought him up to know right from wrong and have respected him as an individual. Time will tell.
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chronicfathead said:
I like to the think I will still respect his privacy, as I believe we have bought him up to know right from wrong and have respected him as an individual. Time will tell.
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It is a proven fact that adolescent brains aren't developed enough to effectively understand the consequences of their actions so they probably shouldn't be put in a position to bear the responsibility of them. Besides, history has proven many times that it is a very bad decision to do so in the first place.
The password security of Android and Linux in general is pretty robust, so I think the easiest and most obvious solution to the problem is to not your children use them in the first place.

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It is a proven fact that adolescent brains aren't developed enough to effectively understand the consequences of their actions so they probably shouldn't be put in a position to bear the responsibility of them. Besides, history has proven many times that it is a very bad decision to do so in the first place.
The password security of Android and Linux in general is pretty robust, so I think the easiest and most obvious solution to the problem is to not your children use them in the first place.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he will do stupid things in the future, and I'm sure he will learn from them. What I won't do is take away his privacy. I know my child, and he knows right from wrong. He can listen to people swearing and play games with people shooting each other all day long, but he knows he isn't allowed to swear and in rural life people shouldn't shoot each other.
I know other kids who I would worry about, who do swear, and its all down to how they have been brought up and been treated.
If truly believe that if you snoop into your kids life, they will start hiding things, and won't respect you.
If it is your kids Kindle, let it be your kids Kindle and respect their privacy. You never know, they may stop password protecting it, but you might have gone past that stage already. Ask if you can borrow it, don't just take it and breach their privacy.
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chronicfathead said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he will do stupid things in the future, and I'm sure he will learn from them. What I won't do is take away his privacy. I know my child, and he knows right from wrong. He can listen to people swearing and play games with people shooting each other all day long, but he knows he isn't allowed to swear and in rural life people shouldn't shoot each other.
I know other kids who I would worry about, who do swear, and its all down to how they have been brought up and been treated.
If truly believe that if you snoop into your kids life, they will start hiding things, and won't respect you.
If it is your kids Kindle, let it be your kids Kindle and respect their privacy. You never know, they may stop password protecting it, but you might have gone past that stage already. Ask if you can borrow it, don't just take it and breach their privacy.
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While I can entertain the thought of trusting your kids to make the proper decisions, that doesn't change the fact that they don't have the real world experience to be able to spot certain dangers, such as phishing scams, cyber bullies, or even worse, child predators.
Not having the ability or the will to keep track of your child's behavior online puts you and your child at risk of falling prey to some very unfortunate situations. The idea of having absolute trust in your children may seem like a good idea, but there are many examples of catastrophic scenarios that would suggest otherwise.

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While I can entertain the thought of trusting your kids to make the proper decisions, that doesn't change the fact that they don't have the real world experience to be able to spot certain dangers, such as phishing scams, cyber bullies, or even worse, child predators.
Not having the ability or the will to keep track of your child's behavior online puts you and your child at risk of falling prey to some very unfortunate situations. The idea of having absolute trust in your children may seem like a good idea, but there are many examples of catastrophic scenarios that would suggest otherwise.
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I agree with some of what you say, but I also think that talking to your child and having them feel they can talk to you is the best defense.
Having them trying to hide what the do is not the best defence. I suppose a balanced approach is best.
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Like so many other dangerous things in this world:
EDUCATION is key.
Don't want to break XDA rules... But you can apply that to ALL the controversial topics in our society. No need for strict rules or laws if people (including children) are taught not to be idiots.
Sure- i was a kid once and remember doing dumb stuff. BUT, my home education kept me from being a complete idiot.
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This thread should be closed.
Massive OT...
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[Q] Survival apps for when TSHTF?

I have smart tools, most handy thing out of that is the compass basically.
So im asking, what are the best survival apps?
Im no conspiracy nut, but it doesn't take a genius to realize the earth is going through stuff it never has before.
Survival apps meaning:
Any guides (i already have the US army & Navy guides)
Any tools that utilizes the Epic's tech (i.e compass, solar wind activity)
If we do not already, someone needs to start coding some serious apps.
Also, if anyone knows of any good ad-hoc programs for when cell towers go down.
Having a nice shiny phone wont mean **** when the cell towers go down.
Take this seriously, please.
When the towers go down and all that madness starts happening, how do you plan on charging your shiny phone?
Edit: As snide a response as this is, I'm being serious. There's better ways to be prepared.
In all seriousness, anything a smartphone can do (assuming network infrastructure is kaput) is better done with a purpose built tool. If TSHTF, you really think a day or two of battery life is gonna cut it?
Better to get a standalone analog compass, a good set of maps, and a decent Yaesu HT ham radio. No reason to reinvent the wheel.
(Unless you want to play Angry Birds)
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klub242 said:
When the towers go down and all that madness starts happening, how do you plan on charging your shiny phone?
Edit: As snide a response as this is, I'm being serious. There's better ways to be prepared.
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I just thanked you when i meant to quote lol, off to a great start. As for your "response", no ****.
**** hits the fan, you have a phone for 2-3 MAX, what apps are you gonna have that will help you?
You think i assume our Epics are gonna be solar charged or something?
So again, 2-3 days max...what apps are going to be the most helpful?
EDIT: If you're going to state the obvious (phone dying) then dont bother posting, im fully aware of
that as its the big pink elephant in the room.
comedy said:
I just thanked you when i meant to quote lol, off to a great start. As for your "response", no ****.
**** hits the fan, you have a phone for 2-3 MAX, what apps are you gonna have that will help you?
You think i assume our Epics are gonna be solar charged or something?
So again, 2-3 days max...what apps are going to be the most helpful?
EDIT: If you're going to state the obvious (phone dying) then dont bother posting, im fully aware of
that as its the big pink elephant in the room.
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It's okay. I'm thank-worthy. As much as I love technology and the cool things it can do... I wouldn't really bother. You're a lot better off learning basic things like first aid and having the head knowledge than being reliant on anything. Also, it's awfully optimistic to hope for more than 24 hours max if you ask me.
klub242 said:
It's okay. I'm thank-worthy. As much as I love technology and the cool things it can do... I wouldn't really bother. You're a lot better off learning basic things like first aid and having the head knowledge than being reliant on anything. Also, it's awfully optimistic to hope for more than 24 hours max if you ask me.
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Lol, you're an interesting fellow -- interesting is the nicest word I can think of at the moment.
I have everything else covered, dry meals, water filters, i have enough first aid kits to aid a village. I have much more aid that i wont list as it comes from ex-military friends, trust me when I say I have everything else covered.
So again, when TSHTF, what are the most useful apps?
I cant even believe im trying to explain to you the importance of having survival apps on your phone, feel like im taking crazy pills or something.
EDIT: and no, you are not thank worthy -- not even close. Please abandon the thread if you continue to think small small-mindedly, on the other hand
if you want to contribute, please do.
They have solar chargers for laptops which will hold over 10 full cellphone charges and require something like 10 hours of sunlight to get those 10 full charges. With them, you could charge your cell phone as fast as you could with a normal power adapter from the wall.
I think they also have $50 range solar chargers which would hold about 3-4 cell phone charges, and get your cell phone charged fully in 3-4 hours from sunlight or from the built-in battery.
I'll take a stab at a serious reply for ya...
Other than a compass, obviously... A GPS program with pre-downloaded maps might come in handy, something like Gaia GPS, perhaps, where you can get maps with hiking trails listed. I figure if something happens to take out the satellites, you probably wouldn't be around to worry about much else!
My app is called an AR15.
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My app is called an AR15.
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My app is called an AR15.
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So, let me get this straight. You shoot people to get directions?
Gotta love 'em rednecks.
Thanks Nabbed & Dalmus, will definitely look into both of those.
As for the others, the ignorance is amazing.
Ill list some of my own if anyone didnt already know about them:
BrightestFlashlight
U.S. Army Survival Guide
U.S. Navy Seal Training Guide (which i downloaded & loaded onto my phone w/ a pdf reader)
Boskoi (utilizes google maps (albeit if its still up) to show you ALL edible sources around you, nuts, fruits, berries, even fungi.
ICE: In Case of Emergence (shows you First & Local responders (police stations, hospitals) and also gives you information on allergies, specific medical conditions,
how to treat someone who is unconscious, ect.
Also remember, if you have some steel wool & enough tinder you can start a fire with your own battery.
Small-minded thinking gets you nowhere, open-minded with a dash of doubt is most important.
Not just outright "Oh you think you're phone will save you?"
No offense, but I'm not sure how this thread even belongs on the XDA forums...
Lonewuhf said:
No offense, but I'm not sure how this thread even belongs on the XDA forums...
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No offense taken.
The right approach would be to think, wow we really do need some handy apps.
I'd code everything myself and not ask a single question but I obviously dont have that knowledge so instead I have to take a gamble, post on here -- & get nothing but ignorant responses.
Except for the few that get what im saying
Nabby & Dal <3
comedy said:
No offense taken.
The right approach would be to think, wow we really do need some handy apps.
I'd code everything myself and not ask a single question but I obviously dont have that knowledge so instead I have to take a gamble, post on here -- & get nothing but ignorant responses.
Except for the few that get what im saying
Nabby & Dal <3
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I'm not sure how my post was ignorant at all, I was kind of thinking the same about this entire thread. This belongs somewhere, yes, but not here. At least take it over to the themes and apps section... And no I don't think we need apps of this kind. If I was worried about something happening, I'd get actual tools designed (and much better) to solve these problems than my cell phone.
you could smash the gorilla glass and use it to skin squirrels and cut paracord.
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So, let me get this straight. You shoot people to get directions?
Gotta love 'em rednecks.
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It's called a map and compass for directions. Gun to hold onto my shiny cell phone that I will wear around my neck as a trophy because that's all it will be good for.
If your really looking for a serious note on this and I am still confused why you'd rely on a cell phone when things go down but I'd get all the guides, local maps, points in interest I.e. police stations, military bases, hospitals and load them into PDF files then save them on your phone so you can have all the info ready. No cell reception required.
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It's called a map and compass for directions. Gun to hold onto my shiny cell phone that I will wear around my neck as a trophy because that's all it will be good for.
If your really looking for a serious note on this and I am still confused why you'd rely on a cell phone when things go down but I'd get all the guides, local maps, points in interest I.e. police stations, military bases, hospitals and load them into PDF files then save them on your phone so you can have all the info ready. No cell reception required.
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You'd be much better served with a glock. If you want to shoot bandits in the case of a national emergency, a handgun trumps the rifle.
Also, you seem to be confused, friend. If you are going up against a totalitarian government, then a rifle is a good choice. A handgun is much better in the case of riots. Your confusion seems to stem from the misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. You see, you can fight against injustice with a rifle, but a handgun is much more useful in case of civil disobedience.
I have to repeat these obvious truths 3 times over because rednecks really don't think for themselves.
nabbed said:
You'd be much better served with a glock. If you want to shoot bandits in the case of a national emergency, a handgun trumps the rifle.
Also, you seem to be confused, friend. If you are going up against a totalitarian government, then a rifle is a good choice. A handgun is much better in the case of riots. Your confusion seems to stem from the misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. You see, you can fight against injustice with a rifle, but a handgun is much more useful in case of civil disobedience.
I have to repeat these obvious truths 3 times over because rednecks really don't think for themselves.
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Lol your a tool box good sir. This thread went from worthless to just silly. Who is talking about fighting the government, riots or second amendment. Apparently your idea of $hit hitting the fan is way different then most. This went from joking around to you getting mad. Why so mad?
I'll make it even simpler, a pistol for CQB/CQD and a rifle for anything past that. Take your smugness somewhere else, it doesn't really add much here.
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Lol your a tool box good sir. This thread went from worthless to just silly. Who is talking about fighting the government, riots or second amendment. Apparently your idea of $hit hitting the fan is way different then most. This went from joking around to you getting mad. Why so mad? I
I'll make it even simpler, a pistol for CQB/CQD and a rifle for anything past that. Take your smugness somewhere else, it doesn't really add much here.
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I'm sorry but I didn't read what you wrote. I just pushed the Quote button.
But I digress. Let me give youa piece if advice, mr. Redneck. Go to your backyard immediately and dig a hole. Take that pos ar-15 and bury it in the hole. Then go to your favorite gun store and get yourself an ak.

FBI = CIQ

http://www.muckrock.com/news/archiv...rrier-iq-files-used-law-enforcement-purposes/
Thanks all you devs for keeping us safe from the people who are supposed to be keeping is safe!
crzchn said:
http://www.muckrock.com/news/archiv...rrier-iq-files-used-law-enforcement-purposes/
Thanks all you devs for keeping us safe from the people who are supposed to be keeping is safe!
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Looks like the FOIA request was denied because the data the FBI has is currently part of an investigation. It is possible that the investigation is into CarrierIQ instead of some person. It may be sign of a good thing.
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That's some scary stuff.. so since my phone is rooted.. they can't do this? Honestly.. I've never doubted the fact that the FBI or the government had the ability to trace my calls and see everything I did.. In my plot to take over the world I.. I never planned to use a cell phone
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Dwayneiztheshyt said:
That's some scary stuff.. so since my phone is rooted.. they can't do this? Honestly.. I've never doubted the fact that the FBI or the government had the ability to trace my calls and see everything I did.. In my plot to take over the world I.. I never planned to use a cell phone
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lol.. hopefully they use it for the greater good.... thats all i would have to say, there is a lot of sickos out there.
Dwayneiztheshyt said:
That's some scary stuff.. so since my phone is rooted.. they can't do this? Honestly.. I've never doubted the fact that the FBI or the government had the ability to trace my calls and see everything I did.. In my plot to take over the world I.. I never planned to use a cell phone
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Your phone has to be more than rooted to get rid of CarrierIQ, it needs to have a custom ROM as well that states that it has CIQ removed. Unnamed ROM is the best I have used so far.
But if they want to know something, they will find a way. I think, however, we should not make it easy for them.
crzchn said:
Your phone has to be more than rooted to get rid of CarrierIQ, it needs to have a custom ROM as well that states that it has CIQ removed. Unnamed ROM is the best I have used so far.
But if they want to know something, they will find a way. I think, however, we should not make it easy for them.
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Aha ha I agree!
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crzchn said:
Your phone has to be more than rooted to get rid of CarrierIQ, it needs to have a custom ROM as well that states that it has CIQ removed. Unnamed ROM is the best I have used so far.
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Actually you can disable CIQ once you are rooted without needing a custom ROM.
the worst part about ciq and other non government agencies collecting data is that they are used by the fbi and cia to share info... which is illegal through direct channels. also, a third party collecting our info and delivering it to the carriers is totally unacceptable. theres tons of threads in the OG epic forums... as thats where konane first found and decided to kill CIQ. i honestly wonder if all the anti-ciq stuff really started there... then the tech pundit sites reported what was in these forums as usual... then the mainstream noticed... idunno. as far as plots to take over the world/bring down systems... keep it analog like good music. all the major telecoms have an open door policy w the feds... so its not like they would need CIQ for normal investigations... and they have a grace period to get warrants after they look at the info... patriot acts sealed the fate of privacy and liberty in this country. all because of a now dead boogeyman living in a cave... good job america... something about a jackboot on a human head... forever...
/rant
nivron said:
Looks like the FOIA request was denied because the data the FBI has is currently part of an investigation. It is possible that the investigation is into CarrierIQ instead of some person. It may be sign of a good thing.
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It's the FBI. You don't think while they are combing through all that data while investigating CIQ they won't "stumble" upon certain things? Or mirror those servers? Or realize how useful to them CIQ is and say they've found nothing wrong with what CIQ or the carriers are doing?
Do you think for a moment the FBI isn't already using CIQ as a resource to catch 'terrorists'? Like how the airlines use full body scanners and the TSA to catch 'terrorists' with the same high (lmao!) efficiency.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/12/12/fbi-says-carrieriq-may-be-used-in-law-enforcement-proceedings/
Not saying you think any of that, just making a point. I'm pretty sure most of us are on the same page with this crap.
I think even if it is big brother watching over us, who cares? For the 99.99999999% of the US population, nothing your talking about is that important or a danger, for the small fraction of the folks that this applies to, i welcome it. I do however take issue with the fact that once the lid was blown off, how the company responded (legal action against Treve) and their continued un-truth's. Do we really think that this sort of monitoring isn't taking place now? Pretty much anytime you use a computer/IT resource for any company or agency, you consent to monitoring, the difference is declaration.
sfhub said:
Actually you can disable CIQ once you are rooted without needing a custom ROM.
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Actually the code may be embedded deeper than we thought. Not just at the system or kernel level, but further. I'm no microprocessor engineer but doesn't almost every chip have instruction sets or at least some sort of code written into it? Because when CIQ itself says one of the 3 methods of loading it on the device is at the hardware level - that's what it sounds like to me. Literally the chips are programed with CIQ in the code.
Remove that.
then we would have to disable it in drivers
xlGmanlx said:
I think even if it is big brother watching over us, who cares? For the 99.99999999% of the US population, nothing your talking about is that important or a danger, for the small fraction of the folks that this applies to, i welcome it. I do however take issue with the fact that once the lid was blown off, how the company responded (legal action against Treve) and their continued un-truth's. Do we really think that this sort of monitoring isn't taking place now? Pretty much anytime you use a computer/IT resource for any company or agency, you consent to monitoring, the difference is declaration.
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Oh man, here we go with the "I don't have anything to hide so why should I care" section of this conversation.
I'm not embarrassed about having sex but I sure as hell am not going to let you watch. It's called privacy. Has nothing to do with having things to hide, it has to do with the basic human right to have our own space, time, thoughts, gadgets, property, voice, opinion, and so on.
There are no saints either. Everybody has lied, cheated, stolen, done something wrong that would get them in trouble. Sometimes it was a mistake or even an accident. Does that mean black helicopters should have descended on you to whisk you away to a 5x5 cell without trial? No, and why without trial? Because at this point they don't need a warrant and as per the Patriot Act you don't even have to be charged with something to be held for, well, forever. So no trial is the next logical step.
Just a little interesting fact, the US Patriot Act is actually an acronym for "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act"
just calling out the fact that more than likely this already takes place and we didn't even know it before and how many CIQ's were there before them? Also, I think you are making the same similar leap. CIQ is step one, step 2 is no trial/minority report type tactics? I agree that privacy when possible should be maintained, but lets not be naive and think that it hasn't already happened.
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Prime example of the worst offender? Facebook, yet no one is up in arms about that......
I never doubted the gov would trace. Glad its gone.
This whole CIQ thing is being blown out of proportion if you ask me.
If you have nothing to hide then you really shouldn't worry, regardless.
At the end of the day these agencies are trying to help protect us weather you believe it or not. Just like with every system there are flaws that doesn't mean we should abolish them, but rather make them better !!
Pete
xlGmanlx said:
just calling out the fact that more than likely this already takes place and we didn't even know it before and how many CIQ's were there before them? Also, I think you are making the same similar leap. CIQ is step one, step 2 is no trial/minority report type tactics? I agree that privacy when possible should be maintained, but lets not be naive and think that it hasn't already happened.
Prime example of the worst offender? Facebook, yet no one is up in arms about that......
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You can choose weather or not to participate with Facebook, and it is in their TOS, CIQ however, was not.
pasta1234 said:
This whole CIQ thing is being blown out of proportion if you ask me.
At the end of the day these agencies are trying to help protect us ....
Pete
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Protect us from what?
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Agreed, and I believe this was a huge oversight on their part. The point i was trying to make is there are plenty of other spaces where the privacy is willing given away with little notification and facebook is one of them. Hell they have been told they are to comply with any audits for the next 20 years.
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You can choose weather or not to participate with Facebook, and it is in their TOS, CIQ however, was not.
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pasta1234 said:
This whole CIQ thing is being blown out of proportion if you ask me.
If you have nothing to hide then you really shouldn't worry, regardless.
At the end of the day these agencies are trying to help protect us weather you believe it or not. Just like with every system there are flaws that doesn't mean we should abolish them, but rather make them better !!
Pete
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Ugh, that argument just makes me sick. Those agencies are trying to protect their livelihood, which comes from protecting us, but it's not the same thing. Police detectives get promotions partly based on their case closure rates, that means they have self interest in closing cases that might not be quite airtight. Because who doesn't want a promotion, with the prestige and money that comes with it. The CIA was certain iraq had WMD's, and was trying to obtain yellowcake uranium from Niger, because blockbuster findings like that lead to more funding, which means more turf for those section directors. They aren't all bad obviously, on the contrary I'm certain most of them want to do the right thing. It's the few that don't because they care more about their career than anything else, or the guy that is trying to do the right thing but simply gets it wrong. Mistakes happen, data gets misread or incorrectly analyzed, and people suffer for it. I don't want to be that unlucky person, so I don't want that crap operating on my phone.

Who reads your emails and texts?

How do you guys feel about GOV Agentcies having the power to read your text messages/emails/listen in on phonecalls. I hear there building super computers in nevada that are dato Niming the internet. Is this a safe conversation? Should I hide. Love my s3 btw, CM10 is working as intended. Does incognito mode help?
I for one completely love that my privacy gets invaded......sarcasm
I love my SG3 too
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ChrisM0678 said:
I for one completely love that my privacy gets invaded......sarcasm
I love my SG3 too
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MittRomney would never let this happen.
Honestly, I couldn't give a **** about them reading all my stuff. I mean, I'm not a terrorist. They'd learn more from my official records and documents than my texts/calls/emails....
Unless they start using this against us, I will never care.
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Honestly, I couldn't give a **** about them reading all my stuff. I mean, I'm not a terrorist. They'd learn more from my official records and documents than my texts/calls/emails....
Unless they start using this against us, I will never care.
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Do you really think there doing all this espionage for nothing? Is it okay for somebody to peep at you through a window as long as they dont touch themselves?
exitboon said:
Do you really think there doing all this espionage for nothing? Is it okay for somebody to peep at you through a window as long as they dont touch themselves?
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I'm pretty sure that the government only even looks at texts/calls/etc. to help with police investigations and similar things. If they did something big that would affect us, everyone would go ape**** crazy which would be like suicide for the US government.
I'd be fine with an invisible guy looking through my window and furiously masturbating - As long as it doesn't affect me and I won't notice, I don't care.
This can be solved quite easily.
If everyone would forward every email/text they send to a government computer in order to "save them the trouble" of having to data mine their own citizens...
I'm sure their "supercomputers" could handle the extra traffic.
I hate this question because of course I don't like it but what the [email protected]$ am I to do about it? Nothing. I just have to know it happens.
The point is that the only way out seems to be moving on the countryside, have a farm and live isolated from any statal or corporate agency. That means no internet, no cell, no fun! At least while you´re young :laugh:
But it doesn´t surprise me that they´re building such kind of suveillance computers.
I wonder if he noticed the black helicopters flying around him as he was starting the thread.
Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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It seems to me your are a textbook case of being affected by the good ol fear tactic. Are there bad people in this world? Yes of course. That doesnt mean you trample on the rights of every single individual to look for a few. Your asking your self the wrong question. What do you think America is doing around the world that makes people want to come here and do terrible things like 9/11. Our country, This united states was founded on a constitution where you are enstilled rights for your protection. Dont so easily turn your back on your liberties because of fear. If your scared go to church.
Doesn't bother me, I'm not a terrorist. I'm sure the GOV would love to see my texts from my wife about what time we have to pick up the kids from school and what not...
If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about and I hope this doesn't come as a surprise but there is no privacy on the Internet.
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Our internet traffic has been "overseen" much longer than you think.
Things that could have been prevented were intentionally ignored since the govt would rather refuse to confirm that they have been spying than to have to explain how they knew about such things beforehand.
They will only get more intrusive as technology evolves and no matter what the people want, this is the way of the world.
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I don't care if they hear me jerk off to my girlfriend on the phone.
you guys really have to appreciate the obscene amount of work it would be to go through 300 million ppls daily conversations with a tiny tiny fraction of that # of ppl, and then how many thousands of years it would take the greatest supercomputers alive to brute force ONE persons 128-bit encryption. ur safe lol
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Im glad they do it. Ill never forget what happened to us on sept 11th. Im so sick of people *****ing about there civil rights and being scanned at airportd or privacy being invaded. Heres the facts there are dangerous people that hate the USA. if this is what it takes to keep a suicide bomber blowing up a mall im in or hijacking a plane im on go right ahead. When you hear abiut the cia or feds stopping a shoe bomber or something like that do you think it was by accident? No its from them doing what they have to do. I look at it like this american tax payers pays the govt very very well for certain agencies to keep us safe. Do whatever the hell you have to do to do it
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This post is joking... right?
The TSA has so many flaws and security holes. There are so many things that you can bring on a plane and use for harmful intent without the TSA knowing. I have a knife keychain (press a button and a sharp knife pops out) and it's never been questioned or confiscated while going through a TSA check. I've gone on at least 6 flights this summer too.
Say some terrorists want to get on a plane. You have 6 terrorists, they all have ipads. They all get first class front seatings. You can have 2 people use their ipads to knock out the pilots - This would be possible and not that hard if they were trained. Then you hijack the plane and have the 4 people guard you (using their ipads as weapons) while the other 2 crash the plane. This sounds like a really crazy scenario, but it could work. Instead of iPads, they could think of a way to get knives on the plane. (Once again, TSA has so many security flaws that this won't be a problem).
The government definitely keeps us safe in a bunch of ways but the TSA is not one of them. The TSA is really just useless and has a negative impact on the innocent people taking the flight.
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I don't care if they hear me jerk off to my girlfriend on the phone.
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10/10 would read again.
This is 2012 people... remember the movie Enemy of The State? U thought that was Hollywood? They've had that technology available even b4 the movie came out back in 98... 14 yrs later think of how advanced the technology is... The only privacy left is the inside of ur head just like they quoted in the movie...
Not sure that will be private for very long.

[ANSWERED] Is There An App That Can Let Me Know If Someone Is Picking Up My Phone?

I know someone at my work is picking up my phone when I am away and was wondering if there is an App that could record when my phone is being picked up. Hopefully it could even silently take a picture of the person doing it!
Ideally I would return to my work station and have the information I need.. I don't use a PC at my job so that is why I am looking for an App that can do this. Something like Cerberus without the theft aspect,lol.
I have searched and can't find anything... Please don't comment about screen locks and PIN Codes. I know about keeping people out. I want to see who/when people are trying to sneak in.
Thank you
I used Gotya facetrap,it has a option to take a picture whenever the screen turns on or whenever someone enter the wrong passcode or pattern
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.gotya
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Thank you for your post. I just watched the video for this App and I am impressed. The App is VERY close to what I am looking for.
The thing I want (ideally) the App to do (besides what this one does) is have the ability to take a photo or video/time & date stamp an unauthorized user who is trying to access my phone without attempting to "unlock" it.
If my phone is locked they will most likely only try once, I am sure, and then stop their pattern of "sneaky behavior"..
I want to know who is trying access my phone whether it is locked or unlocked.
Jerry D said:
Thank you for your post. I just watched the video for this App and I am impressed. The App is VERY close to what I am looking for.
The thing I want (ideally) the App to do (besides what this one does) is have the ability to take a photo or video/time & date stamp an unauthorized user who is trying to access my phone without attempting to "unlock" it.
If my phone is locked they will most likely only try once, I am sure, and then stop their pattern of "sneaky behavior"..
I want to know who is trying access my phone whether it is locked or unlocked.
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That app have a function which will take screen shot whenever they turn on the screen,they don't even have to attempt to enter your password/pattern for it to take a picture & you can have it email you a picture of the culprit with a time stamp/date of when the pic was taken,it even have the option to turn on a system tray notification on pull down bar which will also have time stamp.
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Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
Jerry D said:
Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
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lol,nice
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Jerry D said:
Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
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Let us know who it was
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lol yeah, it's called pocket and it's by your hip... but forealdo, why don't you just put the damn thing in your pocket.
Please let us know. This sounds like it'll be interesting and Fun.
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lol yeah, it's called pocket and it's by your hip... but forealdo, why don't you just put the damn thing in your pocket.
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That's what I was wondering.... Why not do like the rest of us and keep it secured on your person. I understand if you want on using this in the event your phone is lost/stolen. But you wanna know who picks it up... As in like a nosy girlfriend haha.... That's about the only thing I'd use this for
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That's what I was wondering.... Why not do like the rest of us and keep it secured on your person. I understand if you want on using this in the event your phone is lost/stolen. But you wanna know who picks it up... As in like a nosy girlfriend haha.... That's about the only thing I'd use this for
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Yeah, he's just asking for it. It'll only be a matter of time before someone picks it up and instead of putting it back down puts it in their own pocket. I recommend you put it in your pocket! Happy New Years!
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
P.S.
Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
Jerry D said:
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
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Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
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I have never heard of an app to do that. Ur better off getting a clock radio camera and record it. Or just confront the bully. It about the only way to resolve this issue
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I completely understand your reasoning for needing this app but kind of like BACARDILIMON said, I'd go with a fiber optics type route. That way you can get a video of the perp coming into your workspace and get a little more proof of what they are doing other than the fact that you have a picture of their face on your phone. Plus, the cameras are a bit safer because if something of yours were to walk away, you would have prove as to who did it and exactly when.
Anyways, good luck with your CSI work
I second the covert camera idea. This is clearly the way to go. I wouldn't even hang it over the person's head. Just take it to the boss and discuss the hostile work environment the co-worker is creating for everybody.
Don't sit on it either. Evidence is best when fresh. Give it a couple weeks and it gets to be stale and brings up questions of your motives.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Jerry D said:
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
P.S.
Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
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dude, just get one of those pen spy cams...
edit: seems guy above mentioned it.
BACARDILIMON said:
I have never heard of an app to do that. Ur better off getting a clock radio camera and record it. Or just confront the bully. It about the only way to resolve this issue
If you read the thread you would know that there is an App that DOES what I was hoping for in my OP. Lord_Kaizer gave us the name of that App (GotYa!) and a link to that App. GotYa! It works Great..
I actually have audio and video of this person harassing me/coworkers, sleeping on the job and other "nonsense".. However I started to think about the possible Legal Issues concerning the audio and video recording of someone without their knowledge. I'm not a Lawyer but I am sure it can't be Legal.
I don't want to get fired. This person has some power and latitude on the job. This is a serious matter that I'm about to "take on" for the benefit of me and my fellow coworkers. I HAVE to be Smart about this..
This App will provide me with picture after picture day after day of this "not nice" person attempting to access my personal property without my knowledge or permission.
A LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED. GotYa! LOL.. They can't weasel out of this one!
The pictures will have a time and date attached to them. The App will email the pictures to me in real time (time and date again) to ensure a "chain". The person can't say that I just took pictures of them and edited times and dates, bla bla bla.. you can't edit the times and dates on emails.
Anyways, you are right about the only way to resolve the issue is to confront the bully. My physical evidence WILL Negate any he said she said "Brush Off".. this is how the Owner has handled "matters" in the past. The Owner isn't stupid though and WILL call his lawyers for advise...
I have a Legitimate anti-theft app on my phone that enabled me to discover that a coworker is attempting to what? read, access/steal my personal information? I have a $700 Smart Phone. My whole life is in here.
Why are they regularly "going into" my Personal phone. I have a reasonable expectation that this behavior isn't happening to me on the job. Surely this behavior is against "The Rules".. I will show that this is a pattern of behavior and not some random event.
This is a very serious Matter. My job will be on the line when I expose this A....e
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dude, just get one of those pen spy cams...
edit: seems guy above mentioned it.
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I let your first non-helpful post slide because I saw you have a 153 thanks and figured that you are a helpful and productive member of Our Community.
I used your second non-helpful post as a reason to enlighten Community Members as to why I need the GotYa! App and hopefully show how technology can be used to Empower people and not be victims..
Have you watched the Youtube video for this App?? The man in the video was robbed at an ATM, at gun point, and was able to get the criminal caught for the crime because he had this App installed..
Now that I have read your 3rd non-helpful post I see that you are just Trolling my Thread.
Please stop Trolling my Thread.

[Off Topic] Self Defense

Started a new thread for anyone that wanted to continue the conversation about self defense from this thread because it is getting way off topic from the OP.
Self defense: what's your stance? Firearm, or no?
Open discussion, let's not attack someone else's views/opinions, or say things that will have a mod close this thread.
Is anyone ANTI-self defense? I mean, you can be pro-self defense (martial arts) and be anti-firearm.
Personally, I have a shotgun, a .22 and a .45. I'm seriously considering getting a license to conceal and carry but I don't currently. I also have had years of living with a Dad who was a gun nut and he filled my head with more opinions on the various aspects of gun control, concealing and even gun ownership than you could imagine. What stuck with me though is that you should NEVER own a gun unless you are SURE you can use it. You must be of the mindset that you can take a life, because if you don't - if you hesitate - your gun could be used against you. I don't know if many people actually mull over the fact that bad guy or not, everyone is someone's son or daughter. And once the aggression drains from that face you laid down, you are looking at a human being. Who is scary dying or dead? Can you live the rest of your life with that on you?
If I lived alone, I wouldn't own a gun. But I have a family and their well being is my responsibility. Would I kill if I had to? Only for them. Nothing I own is worth a life otherwise.
Just my two cents. You're welcome to disagree. I spent years arguing with Dad, "I could do it. No problem." And then I had kids and my perspective changed. I am changed.
Much respect to all who participate in this thread.
What is this doing on XDA ????
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Well said. I also have a family, and would do absolutely anything necessary for them. I conceal carry anywhere its legal, any time I am able to, as well as my wife. Of course, I would only use a firearm when absolutely necessary, and would not hesitate when it can to my family. Like you said, you have to have already decided if the time came to take a life, you need to know if you will or not, and not hesitate.
I'm also a life member of the NRA, and platinum member of the USCCA - they provide funds in the event of a criminal or civil lawsuit, as you as you did everything correctly.
I don't comprehend the government's views on the 2nd amendment, and states like Illinois where it is extremely difficult to legally defend yourself with a firearm. There are clear statistics showing that pro-gun states/cities have a lower crime rate over a period of time. I'm at work at the moment, so I don't have a link to provide as a reference currently.
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What is this doing on XDA ????
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Check out the link in the OP. Background info - someone got their new HTC One stolen at gunpoint. That thread got way off topic, as the OP was inquiring what they could do to possibly locate the phone.
In some states its illegal to claim self-defense if you were already carrying a weapon with "intent" to defend yourself.
I begin self defense up to and including killing someone in self defense. But of course situation dictates, I'm not going to shoot someone for stealing my $30 grill from my front porch. But if someone were to break into my house and I were in the house, who ever comes through my door better be ready to die.
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Check out the link in the OP. Background info - someone got their new HTC One stolen at gunpoint. That thread got way off topic, as the OP was inquiring what they could do to possibly locate the phone.
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I understand why the thread was started. My wife and I both have a carry permit and believe in the second amendment.
What I was saying was XDA is not for NRA and gun control debates, it's for phone info.
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123421342 said:
In some states its illegal to claim self-defense if you were already carrying a weapon with "intent" to defend yourself.
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Yea, and this logic baffles me.
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I begin self defense up to and including killing someone in self defense. But of course situation dictates, I'm not going to shoot someone for stealing my $30 grill from my front porch. But if someone were to break into my house and I were in the house, who ever comes through my door better be ready to die.
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Agreed. One should never even reach for a firearm unless its something serious to begin with, which includes breaking into my home with my wife and kids. In Kentucky (and probably most states) you can only legally self defend with a deadly weapon for serious injury/bodily harm/death, rape/sexual act, kidnapping. As far as property, the law isn't perfectly clear, but if the perp is in your home, it's all bad for them.
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I understand why the thread was started. My wife and I both have a carry permit and believe in the second amendment.
What I was saying was XDA is not for NRA and gun control debates, it's for phone info.
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Fair enough. But it was already being discussed anyway, and if fellow xda members wanted to discuss it further, here is the thread. No disrespect, but you're also basically saying 'why are people talking about sports in the off topic thread?' Same logic.
This has nothing to do with the Verizon HTC One or any other phone. There is a forum on XDA for off topic discussions unrelated to phones, appropriately titled Off-Topic Forum. Nothing personal, I just come here for info about the phone I use and would like to keep it that way. I rather not see the thread popping up to the top every time someone comments on this sometime volatile subject.
Or we could just take the discussion here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415379

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