AOKP ROMs vs Touchwiz ROMs - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

To help people make the decision between AOSP based ROMs like AOKP and Touchwiz based ROMs like Jedi, I thought it would be helpful to have a reference. Each list only includes features that aren't in the other types of ROMs. Please comment to help me add things I missed or fix things I got wrong. I've been researching a lot, but my Note 2 is shipping right now and I haven't had an opportunity to try ROMs out. Consequently, I may need to be corrected on some things. I'll update this post regularly.
AOSP:
4.2 Jelly Bean
- new clock
- different users
- lockscreen wigits
- users
- bug fixes
nabvar option (AOKP & CM)
Expand Desktop (AOKP & CM)
Physical Button alternate functions (AOKP & CM)
theme chooser
Touchwiz:
MultiView
S-Pen Features
SmartStay

Aokp is great rom but will eliminate features of samsung.

I have expanded desktop through my launcher on touch wiz. I believe this day and age, one should know the differences between touchwiz and aosp, especially if your rooting.
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I've been a big fan of AOSP ROMs for a long time. However, I'm sold on TW ROMs now - Samsung has done remarkable job polishing and tweaking their TW and I really enjoy it. #snote #paperartist #camera to name my best reasons for TW. Plus Quadrant scores are always much higher - not a big deal, but still...

While I love AOSP and how clean it looks, loosing so many S-pen features isn't worth it.
I use Nova to bring back as much of the AOSP experience as I can.
As for the 5-row keyboard, I'm pretty sure you can get that with Perfect Keyboard or even Swiftkey so it's really not a feature of the TW rom.

You failed to mention a few things for AOSP
The ability to use theme chooser with 100s of themes and not have to flash them
all the new features and bug fixes in 4.2.2
Not having to flash many mods that are only available by flashing in TW
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Your comment saying S Pen features are not available in AOSP ROMs is misleading. The SPen Samsung Apps are not available. Dozens of apps that work with the Pen are in the play store and many of the ROMs have Spen gestures built in.
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I think you also may note that the comparison is AOSP vs TW. (The thread title) AOSP is ANDROID OPEN SOURCE PROJECT. AOKP and CM are both AOSP there are ROMs that make up the best of both of those .
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Nothing on AOSP can convince me to switch really. Personal experience on touchwiz has been better for me. Better battery and signal, feels smoother.
But AOSP is by no means bad.
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Thugnificent69 said:
Nothing on AOSP can convince me to switch really. Personal experience on touchwiz has been better for me. Better battery and signal, feels smoother.
But AOSP is by no means bad.
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Key Lime Pie? LOL. will be out this summer. Note2 stock will most likely never see it.
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RonnieRuff said:
Key Lime Pie? LOL. will be out this summer. Note2 stock will most likely never see it.
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Depending on what it offers, this might convince me too. The big thing is what kind of default stylus support it can get.

Judging from popularity Jedi roms rule. By far - even among other TW roms. That leaves best AOSP rom, CM, in a distant 10% of the share. My 2c...
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You could probably just flash them both and see which one you like more. For me, the only thing I miss in cm from touch wiz is the stock music player. It outshines most on the market in my opinion.
Other than that, touch wiz is whatever for me. If you can't live without the music player (I can live without it) and the s pen gestures, and don't mind an occasional big here and there, then try cm.
But all in all I'll just say this, useless thread imo. You wanna know what ROM is "the best" well find out for yourself because that is the only way to do so.
"About to get note II, what ROM is the best?"
"Guys?"
"....guys???"
plz
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Poke_N_PDA said:
Depending on what it offers, this might convince me too. The big thing is what kind of default stylus support it can get.
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There won't be any "default" support. Just what devs add. I still don't get the stylus excitement. I prefer typing notes with my swipe keyboard and ever note.
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cobraboy85 said:
You could probably just flash them both and see which one you like more. For me, the only thing I miss in cm from touch wiz is the stock music player. It outshines most on the market in my opinion.
Other than that, touch wiz is whatever for me. If you can't live without the music player (I can live without it) and the s pen gestures, and don't mind an occasional big here and there, then try cm.
But all in all I'll just say this, useless thread imo. You wanna know what ROM is "the best" well find out for yourself because that is the only way to do so.
"About to get note II, what ROM is the best?"
"Guys?"
"....guys???"
plz
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AOSP ROMS have Spen gestures now.
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RonnieRuff said:
There won't be any "default" support. Just what devs add. I still don't get the stylus excitement. I prefer typing notes with my swipe keyboard and ever note.
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AOSP ROMS have Spen gestures now.
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There already is some default support as I understand it. Just not much.

Poke_N_PDA said:
There already is some default support as I understand it. Just not much.
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Actually no... That has been added by Devs. AOSP has none.
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One feature that pretty much guarantees I will not touch AOKP anytime soon is WiFi calling.

Meanee said:
One feature that pretty much guarantees I will not touch AOKP anytime soon is WiFi calling.
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That has nothing to do with ASOP or Touchwiz. It is a TMO feature.
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RonnieRuff said:
That has nothing to do with ASOP or Touchwiz. It is a TMO feature.
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It's a T-Mobile feature, but it depends on TouchWiz framework. So, yea, you can say it's TouchWiz only.

Meanee said:
It's a T-Mobile feature, but it depends on TouchWiz framework. So, yea, you can say it's TouchWiz only.
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So you are saying only Samsung devices on TMO have WiFi calling?
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RonnieRuff said:
So you are saying only Samsung devices on TMO have WiFi calling?
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I dont think he said "samsung"
He is posting in the tmobile note 2 forum, so im guessing he means:
In order for our "tmobile note 2" to have wifi calling, touchwiz framework is required.
Which is absolutely right! International base, and other non-tmobile base roms DO NOT support wifi calling
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Mftek1 said:
I dont think he said "samsung"
He is posting in the tmobile note 2 forum, so im guessing he means:
In order for our "tmobile note 2" to have wifi calling, touchwiz framework is required.
Which is absolutely right! International base, and other non-tmobile base roms DO NOT support wifi calling
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The international base note2 is Touch Wiz
I know what he is saying. TW is a Samsung product. If other TMO phones have WiFi calling that are not TW/Samsung then WiFi calling on TMO is due to TMO code not TW code. Does not matter much really but I do not think WiFi calling has anything to do with TW firmware if it did the International version could be modded to work and it cannot.
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Related

tablet UI on GS3

I have been wondering for a while , how many % of the users in here use aosp based roms (like aokp cm9/10 etc ) and the rest of them using TW based roms , is there a decent percentage of SGS3 owners interested of having the tabletui running on there tw based rom .. or not .
if anyone wonders how tw tablet ui looks you can have a look at screenshots allover the web from the newest tablet from samsung ..
of course without a device in hand its pretty hard for me to do this , not only i know i can do this but I would if i had one thats for sure .
im very happy with my note and do I do not intend on switching phone anytime soon, still under contract for 2 + years makes it pretty ridiculous for me to buy a 600 + deving phone .
So lets not get carried away here (ie trolls keep out) , all i m asking here is, is there need for this type of mod on this device ?
if so then we can start looking into how to make this work .
Sounds very interesting but I am going to get Note II soon and that will be my primary device going forward. A month+ ago when the specs for the LTE Galaxy Note II was not available, I would have been interested...
I personally have no interest in a tablet UI on my GS3 - however, I know there are surely some folks out there who would jump at the chance! What would be the advantage of a tablet UI on a 4.8" screen?
I personally don't see the need for tablet mode on the GS3. The screen is just too small to put it to good use. The Note is a different story however.
coming from a GNOte... and specially from one of ur Roms DAGr8 i would love to have a TW Tablet mode
I just started playing around with paranoid android and I do like the tablet mode for the workspace with the back and home buttons on the bottom bar with the notifications, I dont have to reach as far to hit the back button. If I could have something similar but with all the bells and whistles of touchwiz I would be in.
Dang dag about time make it happen
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Any chance you could make King Kang for our device? I wanted to try to make something like it myself but wasn't sure where to start
thebz1 said:
Any chance you could make King Kang for our device? I wanted to try to make something like it myself but wasn't sure where to start
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sure all is possible... one thing at a time tho
Never was a big fan of TW on the GS2 although I must say it's much nicer on the GS3. I always end up using a different launcher anyways if I stay on a TW rom. I usually prefer PA for the tablet UI and AOKP for certain other features. Your KingKang looks pretty sweet, maybe you could bring that over?
DAGr8 said:
Iim very happy with my note and do I do not intend on switching phone anytime soon, still under contract for 2 + years makes it pretty ridiculous for me to buy a 600 + deving phone .
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thats good to hear; I've been worried that you abandoned AOKP for us Note owners!!
To be honest dude, ive been yearning for a tablet UI TW ROM. I've seen your ROM on the note and it's very nice.
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Screen too small for tablet mode but oh boy i loved your work for the gnote 1! In 1 month your rom had endless features. Still gotta find a dev here that works at ur pace!
Came from the Note myself, and was a big fan of your work. I would live to see a tablet ui for the note.
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Bump. I'm looking for this too.
EDIT:
I did a bit of researching, and I couldn't find anything. In my opinion your best option is installing a ParanoidAndroid ROM (based off CM10 or AOKP depending on which you like) and then a TouchWiz theme.
You should be able to find a ParanoidAndroid ROM in your device's thread.
Here's the link to the TouchWiz theme: http://www.mrmad.net/mrmaddon-jellywiz-edition-fur-galaxy-nexus-2208, scroll down and download the "TouchWiz Jelly Bean Addon 1.3.3" and flash in CWM.
Until someone releases REAL TouchWiz tablet UI, this is all we got.
Is use paranoidkangdroid, a mashup between aokp and paranoidandroid. And I personally love having a tablet ui. Especially apps like Gmail and YouTube are much better in tablet mode. It would be interesting to try out a tw tablet ui for this phone, as I do miss some of the touch wiz features. Like the camera and s beam. I would definitely download it if you were to make one
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I would love a tablet UI for the S3, especially if I have the option of moving between phone UI (even TW) and tablet UI...that would be sweet.

Developer support?

I've read a news article on Pulse that this phone won't have much developer support due to Samsung keeping some files locked out for developer support, and that Cyanogenmod won't be developing on this phone due to that.
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I don't understand the situation fully, but it sounds like Samsung has committed to releasing the source, so I am hoping that means it will get Cyanogenmod and good dev support.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203
acey_zero said:
I don't understand the situation fully, but it sounds like Samsung has committed to releasing the source, so I am hoping that means it will get Cyanogenmod and good dev support.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203
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Interesting..hate Touchwiz but it does have some nice features.
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This might be a dumb question, I've just begun researching this but it concerns development. I'm considering jumping from my Verizon contract to AT&T for this phone, based on the virtual certainty that the Verizon version will have a locked bootloader. Are AT&T phones locked on a case by case basis, or is it already a given that this phone will release with devs able to mess with it? I don't want to play a waiting game like the S3 on Verizon despite their huge number of users.
From my understanding there will be NO cm support on any further samsung devices..But then I seen this? so who knows...lol
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/cyanogenmod-10-cm10-for-galaxy-note-2-development-starts/
wish777 said:
From my understanding there will be NO cm support on any further samsung devices..But then I seen this? so who knows...lol
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/cyanogenmod-10-cm10-for-galaxy-note-2-development-starts/
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Pretty sure that is a port, not the actual CM team doing the work
i know cm10 is cool but i dont understand why people would want this on the note 2 since all the features that make the note 2 are TW related but thats just me.
BLOWNCO said:
i know cm10 is cool but i dont understand why people would want this on the note 2 since all the features that make the note 2 are TW related but thats just me.
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Personally I agree, but this is xda and people will want to mod. I'll be rooting, but I doubt I'll flash any custom ROM's.
My order is in and I agree,:laugh:
UNLESS...the many features including the S Pen etc. are ported to new ROMS I don't think I'll flash...
BTW ...anyone know of a cure for ORD
gtalum said:
Personally I agree, but this is xda and people will want to mod. I'll be rooting, but I doubt I'll flash any custom ROM's.
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oh i will be doing the same ill flash customs roms just TW ones as i want to keep the features like spen and all that jazz.
on older devices cm was awesome cause it was fast but now as the phones are more powerful then ever i dont see a need to run them. just me tho
Same. I don't think I'll be flashing any Non-TW ROM on the Note 2. I've been flashing AOKP and CM10 on the Note 1 so I've been missing the TW S-Pen features.
This is why im glad i got the N7100 model, just sayin
wish777 said:
From my understanding there will be NO cm support on any further samsung devices..But then I seen this? so who knows...lol
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/cyanogenmod-10-cm10-for-galaxy-note-2-development-starts/
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Pretty much all I know is what I read on rootzwiki, but I thought that they were not going to drop all Samsung devices, but only the ones that used Exynos CPU's due to inadequate source or documentation or something. But then I think Samsung has committed to releasing this, so hopefully that means Cyanogenmod will not drop them anymore, but I haven't heard anything official.
links:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...veloper-support-for-exynos-based-phones-r1151
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...exynos-code-or-is-this-another-pr-stunt-r1176
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BLOWNCO said:
i know cm10 is cool but i dont understand why people would want this on the note 2 since all the features that make the note 2 are TW related but thats just me.
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I have to admit a lot of the features they added do seem genuinely useful, but I still think I would give them up for Cyanogenmod.
It is my understanding (from what I have read about the Note 1, etc) that android natively supports stylus input since ICS, and so it should be able to still work in Cyanogenmod. It is just that there are very few apps that really make use of it besides the ones from Samsung, Hopefully this will improve over time though.
I am with you guys, I personally will root the device and debloat it for now... But stock rom right now seems to be very nice..lol...
We will have alot of great roms coming out either way with or without cm support. I know a couple devolpers coming here shortly and there work is awesome.
There will be plenty of support. I will be working on a few things myself once I get the device. I helped start the CM development in the original note.
And the reason why we run AOSP vs all the craptastic useless stuff Samsung adds its because I personally like vanilla Google. Samsung changes to much. Android in stock form is beautiful. Just my opinion not trying to start a flame war.
If I run stock it will be stripped down deodexed and debloated likke a mofo.
If I decode to build an device tree and attempt to build CM I will. With the open support from Samsung it won't be difficult.
I know of a few developers coming this way also we will have plenty of support I'm sure
antiochasylum said:
There will be plenty of support. I will be working on a few things myself once I get the device. I helped start the CM development in the original note.
And the reason why we run AOSP vs all the craptastic useless stuff Samsung adds its because I personally like vanilla Google. Samsung changes to much. Android in stock form is beautiful. Just my opinion not trying to start a flame war.
If I run stock it will be stripped down deodexed and debloated likke a mofo.
If I decode to build an device tree and attempt to build CM I will. With the open support from Samsung it won't be difficult.
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Normally I agree, and my S3 i definitely agree. But this phone is built around samsungs incorporation of the s-pen and related features. If AOKP roms ignore the s-pen, theyre useless to me.. why even get this phone then?
I think the most popular roms on this phone will be stock based, debloated and feature rich roms, much like Ariel rom for the ATT Galaxy s3 out now.
BLOWNCO said:
i know cm10 is cool but i dont understand why people would want this on the note 2 since all the features that make the note 2 are TW related but thats just me.
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Touchwiz is hideous.
Don't get me wrong, Samsung has done some great things with the multitask and S-pen, but AOSP Jellybean makes Touchwiz look like a featurephone UI from 2003.
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Touchwiz is hideous.
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Which aspects of touchwiz (beyond the launcher, which is easily replaced) are hideous?
theraker007 said:
Normally I agree, and my S3 i definitely agree. But this phone is built around samsungs incorporation of the s-pen and related features. If AOKP roms ignore the s-pen, theyre useless to me.. why even get this phone then?
I think the most popular roms on this phone will be stock based, debloated and feature rich roms, much like Ariel rom for the ATT Galaxy s3 out now.
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This is exactly how I feel about it. I will root it, but I'm going to take my time about flashing a custom ROM. I want the full functionality of that stylus as designed - as an old Palm girl, this is one of the main reasons I'm getting the Note 2. That plus the excellent GPS - coming from a woefully awful Captivate GPS. I had a Garmin iQue 3600, the Palm OS GPS unit, and am frankly spoiled by that integration. If only Garmin hadn't given up like that.....

[Q] Will the Note II get an official CM10?

Hello there peeps, I'm an X Note I user, really enjoyed the experience until my phone got broke heh! And then I bought an S3, my current phone. Im currently running CM10 on my S3, runs good, but because of the close sourcing of the Exynos processor, its still not THAT smooth as it should be. But my taste always is a bigger screen, so I want to get back a Note II. I highly DOUBT that Im ever gonna use Touchwiz....
So the question is, will the Note II get a hands on from Teamhacksung? And we'll get an official support from CM10?
Besides, Samsung has finally decided to give devs some documentation of its Exynos4 source !
Replies would be appreciated as I'm considering to buy the Note in few days, still not so sure! Hope you can help
The current CM team isn't touching any future exynos devices besides the S3 and the Tab if im correct. But if someone new want to come in and start developing for the Note 2 than it would be possible, which we already have a few members here working on CM10 for the note 2 and made some progress. CM10 in the works
Don't expect any official support for CM tho on the Note2..
Running a AOSP build just goes against everything the Note 2 was meant for
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The current CM team isn't touching any future exynos devices besides the S3 and the Tab if im correct. But if someone new want to come in and start developing for the Note 2 than it would be possible, which we already have a few members here working on CM10 for the note 2 and made some progress. CM10 in the works
Don't expect any official support for CM tho on the Note2..
Running a AOSP build just goes against everything the Note 2 was meant for
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Then why did we have a CM10 support for the Note 1 ? Same idea, the whole idea about the Note was with the pen. And yet, the Note I got an official CM10. I dont care about the pen features, Im after a gorgeous 5.5 inch screen actually...and run AOSP rom on it. I can't bare touchwiz.
Well who cares?
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Well who cares?
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Those who have tried AOSP roms and figured out that it beats Samsung's Touchwiz ROMS ? Easily and clearly. Forget about the feature Sammy plug in which are awesome for intance. But when it comes to performance and UI ? The Vanilla pure Android experience is the best one out there....
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Then why did we have a CM10 support for the Note 1 ? Same idea, the whole idea about the Note was with the pen. And yet, the Note I got an official CM10. I dont care about the pen features, Im after a gorgeous 5.5 inch screen actually...and run AOSP rom on it. I can't bare touchwiz.
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because it uses a older processor than the new Note 2 and GS3 (Exynos 4210) we use Exynos 4412, the GS2 even have problems with CM and other aosp roms. (Didn't some of your roms the menu button didnt work?)
Also the US version of the Note 1 came with a snapdragon processor..
Samsung just don't want to release the right docs for the Exynos line. you can build a AOSP rom for the note 2 it just would be a a$$ to get everything fully working with out the sources you need.
Reb0rn and simone are both working on an unofficial CM10 for the note 2, and I believe Entropy said if they get it working and all their gerrit **** is OK there's no reason for it not to be made official with them as the maintainers.
I may be wrong about that last bit though, it's best to just go read that thread.
I believe cm10 is a downgrade from the stock software. Multitasking for example separates this phone from the rest. Never thought that I'll say a phone out of the box better suits my needs than cm10, aokp, or paranoid. Sorry
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Ensifolk said:
Those who have tried AOSP roms and figured out that it beats Samsung's Touchwiz ROMS ? Easily and clearly. Forget about the feature Sammy plug in which are awesome for intance. But when it comes to performance and UI ? The Vanilla pure Android experience is the best one out there....
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I never comment without trying something. Well these CM stuffs are half baked thingy, which I obviously don't want.
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now that the s4 is out....

do you think we can get some 4.2.2 love?
hopefully we do. i mean we are still stuck on 4.1.1
i just want the new camera stuff and a new lock screen.
the rest eh, not so important.
As soon as a system dump or factory images are released I'm sure people will try to port it. Not sure how the ppi of the s4 will effect such things though.
PC Jona said:
do you think we can get some 4.2.2 love?
hopefully we do. i mean we are still stuck on 4.1.1
i just want the new camera stuff and a new lock screen.
the rest eh, not so important.
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Will not happen for quite a while. The Note 3 will have it. They will not upgrade the Note 2 until the 3 has been out for a while.
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Ill pay u $2000 if u can get me the s4 within the next 3 days! Lol!!!!!
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Will not happen for quite a while. The Note 3 will have it. They will not upgrade the Note 2 until the 3 has been out for a while.
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That said I am rocking 4.2.2. Yeah I don't have multi window but I am not impressed with that anyway... I have s pen gestures but I don't really see the excitement over the pen either.
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mikeyinid said:
As soon as a system dump or factory images are released I'm sure people will try to port it. Not sure how the ppi of the s4 will effect such things though.
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I think he is non rooted because he mentioned 4.1.1
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im on jedi master 11.
i would never put aosp on this phone it would be a waste.
the camera sucks on it and its just stupid. i love multiwindow
PC Jona said:
im on jedi master 11.
i would never put aosp on this phone it would be a waste.
the camera sucks on it and its just stupid. i love multiwindow
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My camera (the one you said you want LOL) is pretty much fine.
As to multi window with as many taps as it takes to bring up an app in a half sized window I can use recents to bring up in full screen any app I have used recently right where I left off. Many apps don't even work in multi window and honestly if I wanted to use apps in a half sized screen I would have bought an old BlackBerry Bold LOL.
All that said I had 3 Nexus devices b4 this phone. I like the Google experience. To each his own.
But like I said if you want something other than an S4 buggy port... Will be a while.
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the way i see it, when the note 2 came out, they updated the s3 with the "premium suite" aka note 2 features.
it would be nice to see some love returned .
also i didnt see any multi window on the s4 ? if the s3 does and the s4 doesnt....fail?
PC Jona said:
lol when i said 4.2.2 i meant an update from samsung, not aosp
i want the new features they came up with on the s4.
im not hoping for a port, although it will probably happen.
or just a port of the camera if anything.
and bro the half windows are amazing.
watching a youtube video uninterrupted while texting? come on man.
or watching a youtube video while being able to still see navigation... its the best.
i just wanna see us get updated to 4.2.2 officially...BEFORE the note 3 comes out. it would be a bad move not to.
especially with 5.0 coming soon.
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Basic marketing. Yes 5.0 is coming out but the Note 3 will not have it. Google puts their newest OS on a new Nexus device. The Note 3 is probably in testing now in a basement at Samsung. Samsung will use the updated OS (4.2.2) as a selling point to get people to buy Note 3s.
How long did it take the S2 to get Jelly Bean?
As to watching a you tube video while texting... I would never do that and I don't watch videos while driving LOL.
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RonnieRuff said:
That said I am rocking 4.2.2. Yeah I don't have multi window but I am not impressed with that anyway... I have s pen gestures but I don't really see the excitement over the pen either.
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I think he is non rooted because he mentioned 4.1.1
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Can you pm me what 4.2.2 rom your useing please
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Now we need the leaked s4 rom
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i'm sure this is random. but not so random that it strays from the S4. i don't think the whole EYE movement technology is something i want. especially the whole WAVE YOUR ENTIRE ARM TO THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE PAGE. lol.
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/sams...-will-make-their-way-to-galaxy-s-iii-note-ii/
yea i read that. hopefully it comes out. soon
Hey Ronnie would you be willing to share the link for rootbox /kernel/theme....been so curious about the mix thanks a lot
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Apparently, the S3 was in development since early-2010 as per what one of the co-CEO's said the day other day. I'm sure the Note 4 is already in development and the Note 3 is more or less near the end of its development phase. Marketing 101, Samsung will release the Note 3 when the time comes and after all feature bugs are mostly resolved.
PC Jona said:
the way i see it, when the note 2 came out, they updated the s3 with the "premium suite" aka note 2 features.
it would be nice to see some love returned .
also i didnt see any multi window on the s4 ? if the s3 does and the s4 doesnt....fail?
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Multi Window is on SG S4... Here is the VIDEO...
mha1021 said:
Multi Window is on SG S4... Here is the VIDEO...
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Has this become the S4 forum? Haha!
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[Q] KitKat 4.4 AOSP

AOSP development yet?
enochsalum said:
AOSP development yet?
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im playing with a 4.4 aosp build that aospa made for nexus 7(fhd) and it is amazing. the speed difference and smoothness of the OS is a huge step foreword,even in an early quick build. Lol now ill be perfectly happy as soon as they finish making a flashable gapps, and my note gets an aosp build, 4.3 or 4.4, i want to remove touchwiz!!! and yes i know, i could try to build it, and i have been trying,but im obviously missing something, cause i cant get anything to boot that isnt touchwiz
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im playing with a 4.4 aosp build that aospa made for nexus 7(fhd) and it is amazing. the speed difference and smoothness of the OS is a huge step foreword,even in an early quick build. Lol now ill be perfectly happy as soon as they finish making a flashable gapps, and my note gets an aosp build, 4.3 or 4.4, i want to remove touchwiz!!! and yes i know, i could try to build it, and i have been trying,but im obviously missing something, cause i cant get anything to boot that isnt touchwiz
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The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
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The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
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i dont use the spen, nor have i ever. i have bought every single note, based on screen size alone,and the development community. i prefer aosp, i dont comment on others desire to use tw and the many many features it offers. I just dont use them, so would prefer to have a rom that didnt have them. I i used multiwindow, or spen,etc, i wouldnt ask for aosp. If google released a note 3 sized device, i would buy it, but since they dont, i buy the note series and wait for our genius devs to make me cm roms to play with
dragonstalker said:
The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
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A lot of us don't even use 98% of TouchWiz's gimmicky features - we just love the big display. I've had to install at least a half dozen apps AND Xposed just to get back a lot of what is built into CyanogenMod, for example.
One nice feature of TouchWhiz, though, is swiping down in fullscreen apps shows the hidden notification bar, but, 4.4 will have that feature stock now. Magazine, AirStuff, SmartFooScrollWhatever, SPen Blah... however, won't miss it. I'll probably miss the camera, since that's one of things that's often hit or miss when CM is first released on a new device. Oh, almost forgot: I'll definitely miss the nice InfraRed universal remote app that comes with the device, because the next best one costs $$$.
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i dont use the spen, nor have i ever. i have bought every single note, based on screen size alone,and the development community. i prefer aosp, i dont comment on others desire to use tw and the many many features it offers. I just dont use them, so would prefer to have a rom that didnt have them. I i used multiwindow, or spen,etc, i wouldnt ask for aosp. If google released a note 3 sized device, i would buy it, but since they dont, i buy the note series and wait for our genius devs to make me cm roms to play with
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AH gotcha, In that case it makes sense. Always curious to find out why people purchase certain phones and then want to put Aosp on them.
And there are people working on AOSP, but until somebody gets a base, that is stable, we won't see it. From the guys i talk to, until the dev edition is released, Sammy is keeping a tight lid on it because they don't want another leak, like the S4 had
For the people that want it. I know it's not AOSP, but when I get this INT. RoM picked apart like i want it for the masses. I will work on a seperate Int. ROM that will have as much TW removed without breaking the phone. Or, just replace TW with a custom Launcher that will let me freeze all the garbage you guys don't care about.
aosp always takes time, bs tw roms, nothing to do with samsung, just a matter of devs having to create drivers, etc. im pretty sure one of the cm devs got cm running on the tmobile note 3, but it was to buggy to release.took a couple months for note 1,note 2, etc, we will have it soon. I may be wrong, but the nexus 5 may make the note 3 easier to get to aosp, because it uses the same chip set, so i think it may make things a bit smoother, not alot, but hey every bit helps!
only reasons i bought note 3 knowing nexus 5 was coming is
-5.7 screen
-sd card
-snapdragon 800
Wish someone could make an AOSP rom that has all of the s-pen features present. Would be the greatest of all time.
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A lot of us don't even use 98% of TouchWiz's gimmicky features - we just love the big display. I've had to install at least a half dozen apps AND Xposed just to get back a lot of what is built into CyanogenMod, for example.
One nice feature of TouchWhiz, though, is swiping down in fullscreen apps shows the hidden notification bar, but, 4.4 will have that feature stock now. Magazine, AirStuff, SmartFooScrollWhatever, SPen Blah... however, won't miss it. I'll probably miss the camera, since that's one of things that's often hit or miss when CM is first released on a new device. Oh, almost forgot: I'll definitely miss the nice InfraRed universal remote app that comes with the device, because the next best one costs $$$.
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Same here. The Touch Wiz stuff is there to show off in commercials for the average brain dead consumer to think is cool. First thing I do is disable all the motion/eye crap. The pen is the only thing I miss, but I really only used that for Draw Something.
To all the guys that love aosp and not TW you should switch to the nexus 5. How could you not like any of the features? Camera and such? Having aosp is like ANY other phone as old as it gets. Stock Android is available for many devices. Note 3 has its own special set of features, removing it it's like a car with no wheels. Not one of kind anymore just like the phone your buddy has. 700 phone to look like a 200 device is just dumb. But that's yalls minds I guess.
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muqali said:
Same here. The Touch Wiz stuff is there to show off in commercials for the average brain dead consumer to think is cool. First thing I do is disable all the motion/eye crap. The pen is the only thing I miss, but I really only used that for Draw Something.
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Unfortunately i'm among those brain dead consumers that you speak of. I actually don't like Sammy software, and have not since the Behold For those that even remember that phone). I do on the other hand, use alot of the features that come with it as i'm an IT and it makes life easier for me to carry around the note 3 instead of a tab, and pen/paper, and lap top to be able to do what i can do with this.
Waiting CyanogenMod!
It's hard to lose wifi calling.
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The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
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I think ultimately we(donate) and they(devs) make solutions. My proposition is to rebuild multi window via s command style, draw box you have a window, minimize you get a floating bubble(notifications on bubbles would make sense). I don't know how hard that would be to build for AOSP but Clean android and multi App Window would make for a very light weight and productive Rom. I believe something similar is soon to be released but not with this level of simplicity hardware/user wise. Plus I've seen multi window on aosp roms coming to play out so I can't imagine why this isn't feasible.
**update**
Omnirom is the name of the rom that will feature multi window on aosp.
chuko303 said:
To all the guys that love aosp and not TW you should switch to the nexus 5. How could you not like any of the features? Camera and such? Having aosp is like ANY other phone as old as it gets. Stock Android is available for many devices. Note 3 has its own special set of features, removing it it's like a car with no wheels. Not one of kind anymore just like the phone your buddy has. 700 phone to look like a 200 device is just dumb. But that's yalls minds I guess.
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Nexus 5 is a 5in screen.
Note 3 is a 5.7in screen.
And stock android can be modified to be far more unique than TW by the way.
And there are people who don't find any of these features useful, which was stated before. It will be a shame to loose the camera app though.
Nexus ONE
Nexus 5 has 0 microSD slots
Note 3 has 1 microSD slot
Plainly put I brought this phone for the hardware not the software. I would have brought this phone with out the spen and Samsung features lol
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joverclock said:
only reasons i bought note 3 knowing nexus 5 was coming is
-5.7 screen
-sd card
-snapdragon 800
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Yeah I had been waiting for the nexus 5, sold my n4 and decided to go with the note3, totally happy I did..
i dont want a 5" phone without sd, i want a 5'7 inch screen, with sd, and the note 3 looks way better then the n5. I dont like touchwiz,i hate it, but i love samsung hardware. The beauty of android is choice, why complain that other people have a opinion that isnt the same as yours?

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