Space available on internal SD - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

So I am looking at the Storage in Settings and it say's that I have ~12GB total space and ~2GB Available.
I have used ~4GB total and should have ~8GB of space available (per the Storage breakdown of categories). Anyone know why this is and if it's some sort of bug or glitch?
Using Storage Analyzer, it say's I have used ~3GB or space and have ~9GB of free space. My calculations are more in line with Storage Analyzer and not the Storage in Settings.
I'm using Tasks Rom with the default Kernal if that has any bearing on anything. Thanks for any insight.

Something Creative said:
So I am looking at the Storage in Settings and it say's that I have ~12GB total space and ~2GB Available.
I have used ~4GB total and should have ~8GB of space available (per the Storage breakdown of categories). Anyone know why this is and if it's some sort of bug or glitch?
Using Storage Analyzer, it say's I have used ~3GB or space and have ~9GB of free space. My calculations are more in line with Storage Analyzer and not the Storage in Settings.
I'm using Tasks Rom with the default Kernal if that has any bearing on anything. Thanks for any insight.
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Where are your backups going? If you use TiBu and back up regularly, you will eat up internal SD very fast unless you save to Ext SD or the cloud.

cjranucci said:
Where are your backups going? If you use TiBu and back up regularly, you will eat up internal SD very fast unless you save to Ext SD or the cloud.
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Thanks for the reply. I am using TB, and it's accounted for in the "Miscellaneous" section of the "Storage" in "Settings". I've recently cleaned up my TB and it's down to 600MB. TWRP backups are 1.4GB. That leaves a huge disparity in what I should have available. What's weird is that in "Storage", even the graph shows that there is ~8GB of space, yet it still only say's that the space available is ~2GB. Here is an attachment of what it looks like.

Something Creative said:
Thanks for the reply. I am using TB, and it's accounted for in the "Miscellaneous" section of the "Storage" in "Settings". I've recently cleaned up my TB and it's down to 600MB. TWRP backups are 1.4GB. That leaves a huge disparity in what I should have available. What's weird is that in "Storage", even the graph shows that there is ~8GB of space, yet it still only say's that the space available is ~2GB. Here is an attachment of what it looks like.
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Here is what Storage Analyzer say's the space should be, and what I also believe it should be around.

Something Creative said:
Thanks for the reply. I am using TB, and it's accounted for in the "Miscellaneous" section of the "Storage" in "Settings". I've recently cleaned up my TB and it's down to 600MB. TWRP backups are 1.4GB. That leaves a huge disparity in what I should have available. What's weird is that in "Storage", even the graph shows that there is ~8GB of space, yet it still only say's that the space available is ~2GB. Here is an attachment of what it looks like.
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When you flashed Task's AOKP, did you wipe system? Often when "dirty flashing" you are leaving remnants of the old ROM on the disk. This theoretically could result in the system seeing this as allocated space, rather than available.

cjranucci said:
When you flashed Task's AOKP, did you wipe system? Often when "dirty flashing" you are leaving remnants of the old ROM on the disk. This theoretically could result in the system seeing this as allocated space, rather than available.
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I wiped system, cache, and dalvik initially when i moved to that Rom (i use TWRP) and then again on the 3/4/13 (i think, but could have been 3/2/13) release where he said to do a full wipe, but coming to the newest release i only wiped cache and dalvik.

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[Q] Low Application Data Space after root... HELP!

I finally took the plunge and rooted my dInc using Unrevoked 3. Went smoothly, and confirmed I am rooted by running Titanium Backup. Did a full backup of apps and data.
However, now, and for the first time ever, I'm getting that blasted "Application data space is low. To free up... ". When I click on it, it just takes me to the running apps screen.
I have not installed any ROMs, kernels, or anything else. I ONLY rooted. That damn low data space icon is driving me nuts!
According to the Storage space menu, I have:
SD Card - Total Space 14.83 GB
Available Space 1.61 GB
Internal Phone Storage - Total Space 6.60 GB
Available Space 6.28 GB
Phone Memory: Total Space 748 MB
Available Space 556 MB​
So, what's the problem? How can I resolve this? Thanks.
Flash a rom. Recommend redemptive revolution rom. Make sure to do a full wipe of cache and data in recovery.
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IamJAd said:
I finally took the plunge and rooted my dInc using Unrevoked 3. Went smoothly, and confirmed I am rooted by running Titanium Backup. Did a full backup of apps and data.
However, now, and for the first time ever, I'm getting that blasted "Application data space is low. To free up... ". When I click on it, it just takes me to the running apps screen.
I have not installed any ROMs, kernels, or anything else. I ONLY rooted. That damn low data space icon is driving me nuts!
According to the Storage space menu, I have:
SD Card - Total Space 14.83 GB
Available Space 1.61 GB
Internal Phone Storage - Total Space 6.60 GB
Available Space 6.28 GB
Phone Memory: Total Space 748 MB
Available Space 556 MB​
So, what's the problem? How can I resolve this? Thanks.
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I've had that issue before, but I seemed to fix any problem like that with my rom (in the signature). It's stripped of bloated software, ect. Usually that app data space is low is due to the ram filled, at least in my experiences. I end all my current running processes and /or reboot, and the issue is resolved.
I'd think a custom rom shouldn't be needed to alleviate the low app data space issue. I was considering a rom, but I was hoping to resolve this issue before I ventured down that route.
I did delete some bloatware. Nothing critical - VZ Navigator, City ID, and... maybe one more.
Check the size of your HTC Mail and your Gmail contact caches. I used "clean dalvik cache" in titanium backup donate version and it opened up quite a bit of memory.
The fact that you rooted is probably just a coincidence. This is a known problem and you probably don't have as much memory as you think in the phone memory. You can also use App2SD to move more apps to your SD card but have to be careful with that.
I noticed your internal phone storage is almost unused. I have the same problem. Would be nice if there was an app to move apps to the internal phone storage.
Have fun with your new incredible. Try out Hyrda Kernals Stock undervolt kernal to start out with along with wireless tether to enjoy free wifi! I just did it on mine and it is awesome.

Not sure if A2SD+ is working properly or not.

Ok, i have just finished re-installing all my apps after flashing AceSMod007-3D, the first A2SD+ ROM i have used, and i am already running out of space. I have noticed that any "phone only" apps i download seem to be placed on the internal memory whilst anything movable seems to be placed on the EXT partition and doesn't decrease internal space at all. Is this how A2SD+ is supposed to work? Is my only option to free up more space to delete some of my phone only apps?
I've just rooted and installed AceSMod007 (v33) and im also confused by what goes to SD-Ext4 vs Internal... so far it is hitting Internal, although one app does have the SEND 2 SD option but not sure if that means to the FAT32 or Ext4 partition.
so well confused so far... im holding off customising the phone until i have a better idea.
Open titanium backup, it should show u system memory, internal memory, sd-ext memory and sd card memory..If the app2sd is working u should see that sd-ext is not empty
Leave away the SEND 2 SD option..this is the android stock move to sd, not the app2sd
Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
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Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
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NO, that is the stock move to sd: mean a part of the app can be moved on the sd card fat32 partition, it doesn't allow every app to be moved, and the app is partially on the sd card
The a2sd move every app u install on the ext partition, is not in ur sdcard fat32 partition..it move completely the apk on the ext partition..so the space saved is enough (u will STILL see that the app can be moved on the sd card..but u HAVE to leave it on the internal memory to make the a2sd/a2sd+ fully work)
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
kazgor said:
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
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The data saved from each app (settings, preferences) is still on the internal memory /data/data so that probably is normal if the games need to save a lot of things
Btw how much is ur free internal memory?
its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
quick system info will show the a2sd size
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its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
Paratax said:
Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
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if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
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yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
kazgor said:
yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
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could it be you have a few extra bits thrown in (app wise) with your rom that is taking up extra space?
afaik apps2sd+ you should leave everything on internal
ok this was a good read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7458565&postcount=8
it kind of implies that because there a symbolic link from NAND/Apps to sd-ext/apps, the phone thinks apps are still internal so will reduce the freespace indicated in Settings --> SD & Phone Storage
andQlimax said:
if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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Well obviously something is wrong, as i have installed around 30 apps and i'm already out of internal memory.

Program storage full

hey all
well y HOX has about 15 gig free on the storage... but the internal storage is full.or about to be..
apps about 300 Mb. And then it shows "other" about 6 gig!
wich leves me with about 200 mb free...
i have moved all apps to phone memory.
but how do i access that partiton wichs is nealy full ?
i want to see whay the "other" 6 gig is...and delte some of it.
i am running newest viper venom / 3.7.7
Thanks
intercode said:
hey all
well y HOX has about 15 gig free on the storage... but the internal storage is full.or about to be..
apps about 300 Mb. And then it shows "other" about 6 gig!
wich leves me with about 200 mb free...
i have moved all apps to phone memory.
but how do i access that partiton wichs is nealy full ?
i want to see whay the "other" 6 gig is...and delte some of it.
i am running newest viper venom / 3.7.7
Thanks
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'App Storage' as displayed by Sense is an accumulation of the TOTAL available space as distinct from 'Phone Storage'.
It includes ALL installed files and their associated data including the entire ROM and it's built-in apps, which is what occupies the 'Other' heading. Reserved space, like the unused part of /system and /cache, are counted as USED space in the Storage app. This is part of the reason 'Other' is so big.
You can reduce the usage of 'Other' by using ROMCleaner or Titanium Backup to remove those pre-installed apps you do not want/need.
But there is a limit to what can be done. Be careful not to uninstall anything necessary for the system to operate properly.
As for user-installed apps, post-ROM installation, they are allocated to the 2GB /data partition.
You can also use Titanium Backup to install apps to /system, making use of the slack space in that partition.
Titanium Backup can also be used to move these apps to SD, which in the HOX's case is just as fast as the other partitions since it has no seperate SD card.
EDIT: It's ALSO worth pointing out that there is NO clear documentation or official word from HTC about what exactly 'Other' is or why it occupies so much space. There have been MANY discussions about this, in this very forum (search is your friend BTW)...so the above is best-guess and trial and error.
Thank you for your detailed reply !
i will start looking into it right away!
thank you again!
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insufficient storage w/ 4+ GB free on main

I am starting to get insufficient storage alerts on my M919 GS4. I have more than 4GB free on the main, and 50+GB free on the SD.
Is there a hidden partition that isn't listed that is getting filled up? Could Cache be filled, and preventing new apps from being downloaded, or some such nonsense?
Should I just do a dalvik wipe, or clear the play store?
cyanics said:
I am starting to get insufficient storage alerts on my M919 GS4. I have more than 4GB free on the main, and 50+GB free on the SD.
Is there a hidden partition that isn't listed that is getting filled up? Could Cache be filled, and preventing new apps from being downloaded, or some such nonsense?
Should I just do a dalvik wipe, or clear the play store?
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What app are you trying to download?
I have noticed this behavior as well. Help?
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cyanics said:
I am starting to get insufficient storage alerts on my M919 GS4. I have more than 4GB free on the main, and 50+GB free on the SD.
Is there a hidden partition that isn't listed that is getting filled up? Could Cache be filled, and preventing new apps from being downloaded, or some such nonsense?
Should I just do a dalvik wipe, or clear the play store?
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Hmmm... You have 4GB remaining on Internal. I'm not sure, but below are some possibilities of what may be occurring:
But first wipe cache and dalvik cache as you suggested. If that doesn't resolve your issues:.
Can you post a screenshot shot from Settings:
Device
More
Storage
If the numbers add up, possible files taking up Internal SD/Device storage are:
ROM downloads
Nandroid backups
TiBu backups.
If the gb numbers don't add up in internal SD/Device storage:
Internal storage likely corrupt.
Move files from internal to extSdCard and/or pc
Boot into Recovery -
Data Format internal SD storage, Not extSdCard.
Reboot
Check internal/Device storage to make sure the numbers add up
Move any files back to internal that you moved before doing Data Format
Because you have 4GB internalSSD storage remaining, and even if the above 2 scenariosddon't pertain to you exactly, you may just want to Data Format Internal SD and see if that resolves your issues.
I mentioned a few scenarios in one post because I'll be off line for awhile .
cyanics said:
I am starting to get insufficient storage alerts on my M919 GS4. I have more than 4GB free on the main, and 50+GB free on the SD.
Is there a hidden partition that isn't listed that is getting filled up? Could Cache be filled, and preventing new apps from being downloaded, or some such nonsense?
Should I just do a dalvik wipe, or clear the play store?
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using root explorer or any equivalent file explorer,
look in Data/Media/clockworkmod/backup
If you have used CWM to backup you phone it's probably going in there and when you make another backup, it's included in the next, and so forth compounding the size of each backup and eating all that space. you could move all the backups to the external SD card and have CWM create your backups on the External SD card instead, IF that is the problem.
I had that experience and could not for the life of me find what was EATING my memory space! just the backups and it's compounding took over 3/4 the entire space on the internal memory! Good Luck!
Aloha
Should have replied earlier, and could have sworn that I did.
The problem was that I restored a backup of rom toolbox. That had app2sd turned on. Since the gs4tmo does support app2sd the redirection was seeing zero space on device.
Turning off app2sd in toolbox fixed my problem right up.
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Help with storage please.

I've tried the several of the 4.4.4 CM11, ominrom, and currently the carbonrom. All of them I'm having trouble getting several, if any, apps to the sd card.
The only apps that will go are messenger and terminal. The rest stay on the internal drive. However, even after flashing, I'm only left with 100mb to install apps on. After I run the gapps, there's not enough space to install more than one or two apps and the phone is pretty slow. It seems to be a common problem but I've done a ton of reading and believe I've followed all the instructions.
-partitioned exactly how the guide says using 4ext. no problems. ( my card is 64GB)
-a2sd via terminal also works
-my sd card shows in storage
Any help would be appreciated.
- How big is the partition, should be max 2GB.
- Install diskusage app, enable root and browse to your sd-ext partition, check that it is being used, should see /app and /dalvik-cache folders if setup correctly
- your internal memory won't read 'internal + sd-ext'. Keep apps on internal to trick them to sd-ext, so do not 'move to sd'
Thanks... I did a 1GB partition and re: your suggestion, it looks like I have everything is in order.
Does that mean the internal memory is just full with the ROM installation? Should I look at using an older/smaller rom?
rspear said:
Thanks... I did a 1GB partition and re: your suggestion, it looks like I have everything is in order.
Does that mean the internal memory is just full with the ROM installation? Should I look at using an older/smaller rom?
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You have ~1GB space for apps and dalvik-cache.
When it says 100MB remaining, this does not mean you have 100MB left for apps. This will be used for app data like app settings / saved game data, and app caches. It will still fill up the more you install, but more slowly. Again you can use the diskusage app to browse your /data partition.
The limiting factor is that your are still on stock hboot with only ~147MB actual internal memory (the same as before you rooted)
You can flash a different hboot (requires S-OFF), then flash a corresponding older ROM with smaller /system size like CM7 or Oxygen. That along with equivalent a2sd script will give you more app space. You will always eventually run out of space though
Awesome! Thanks for your time.

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