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[Q] Questions about HTCDev. can I root or flash ROM?

I have been seeing posts saying that it is still S-ON after unlocked with HTCDev, is that true? And does the version of HBoot maters?
If it is still S-ON, may I ask, can I
Root the device
Flash recovery
Flash kernel
overclock
and Flash ROM
with S-ON?
I really want to help with my friend's Buzz.

#1 yes it does leave S-on but you are allowed to root your phone and from there you can install clockwork rom managar and flash clockwork recover and then you can install roms etc.
#2 Yes you will need to change the hboot, but they will prvide it in the instructions as the wildfire has an asterik for hboot upgrade via ruu.
Acording to heaps of people are using HTC Supertools to get root. Although i have a Desire HD, when i have used this i have not got root, but thats just seems to be me
It should work fine if done correctly.
Hope this helps.

hey, i have just rooted my HTC Wildfire after unlocking the bootloader,but i am having problem in rebooting into recovery ,it restarts and gets stuck ,where it shows white screen with HTC logo .Please help me . I have rooted the phone with unlock root software.

barrielui said:
I have been seeing posts saying that it is still S-ON after unlocked with HTCDev, is that true? And does the version of HBoot maters?
If it is still S-ON, may I ask, can I
Root the device
Flash recovery
Flash kernel
overclock
and Flash ROM
with S-ON?
I really want to help with my friend's Buzz.
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As far as i know, the only thing you can't flash is the radio. I am not sure about kernel though.
dkaushik95 said:
hey, i have just rooted my HTC Wildfire after unlocking the bootloader,but i am having problem in rebooting into recovery ,it restarts and gets stuck ,where it shows white screen with HTC logo .Please help me . I have rooted the phone with unlock root software.
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Have you tried to get into recovery through the bootloader? (Press volume down + power).
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LucidSomnia said:
As far as i know, the only thing you can't flash is the radio. I am not sure about kernel though.
Have you tried to get into recovery through the bootloader? (Press volume down + power).
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yes i have , after i rooted my phone (from unLock Root), i realized that my bootloader was showing locked .So i unlocked it again and installed clockwork mod recovery through fastboot on my PC ,it installed , but again if i go to recovery from bootloader ,it shows the same error

Will flashing the kernal to stock HTC kernal help ?
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dkaushik95 said:
Will flashing the kernal to stock HTC kernal help ?
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i wouldnt mess with the kernal if you dont know what u are doing.
have you flashed a custom ROM or Recovery?

See ,I tried flashing clockwork mod recovery from Rom manager and rebooted into bootloader to go to recovery ,but I get the error ,and according to my friend ,you cannot flash Rom without any recovery.
The problem with my phone is I cannot boot into recovery
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dkaushik95 said:
See ,I tried flashing clockwork mod recovery from Rom manager and rebooted into bootloader to go to recovery ,but I get the error ,and according to my friend ,you cannot flash Rom without any recovery.
The problem with my phone is I cannot boot into recovery
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You can't get into recovery when flashed it from rom manager by the bootloader option. You have to reboot into recovery from rom manager after flashing it from there cause it's not permanent.

I tried doing that too ,but it has the same result.
is there any way I can put cm7 without flashing into recovery ?
Or can I delete the recovery and put it again ?
My friend told me that if you have the image file of the Rom (which can be backed up from another wildfire having cm7), you can boot into that image and install cm7 .
can this happen ?
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You need to install cwm first, Rom manager just gives you a temporary downgrade to flash some older zips which use a different script to newer ones.
I believe you can use fastboot to install it, guide here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
If you follow this guide that will get you cwm 4.x.x and allow you to flash cm7 from recovery, the latest version of cwm is 5.0.2.0 however and the img is knocking about in various places on this forum.
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okay ,now this i my bad .
I tried rooting through a site which was meant for the wildfire s .
so i erased the recovery and put clockworkmod recovery .
After 5 tries , i finally got into the recovery and installed CM7 in minutes
Thanks to all of you for help

Heh nice to hear you made it
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[Q] My Desire HD refues to boot with custom ROM

So, hi there.
I have a very strange issue with my DHD.
Let me start saying that I've read and tried all these guides:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_HD:_Firmware_Downgrade_(Gingerbread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424023
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
But... they don't work.
I bought my DHD with Froyo and updated the stock rom everytime, last time with the new Sense 3 stock.
I unlocked the bootloader with the RUU from htcdev.
Fre3vo doesn't work, tacoroot doesn't work, the ace kit (and the lovely effen manual) doesn't work.
I have succesfully flashed clockwork img to recovery (fastboot flash recovery clockwork.img is OK).
I had made a backup of the stock rom with clockwork, and that backup rom is the only one which starts succesfully.
Every other rom i tried (cyanogen, miui, virtuous ics) is succesfully flashed but at the boot it seems freezed at the HTC logo (yes, I waited for about 30 minutes).
The weird thing, is what I did for having miui running on my DHD.
I downloaded the miui rom ZIP,
I copied the zip to the SD,
I copied the boot.img from the zip to my desktop,
flashed the zip with clockwork (after i wiped all the data),
reboot the DHD into fastboot
fastboot the boot.img I've extracted to the phone (c:\> fastboot boot boot.img)
then the phone boots to the boot image I've sideloaded via USB.
And this is working really fine without any problems...
Unless I had to reboot the phone on the road or the battery dies...
Isn't that a bit weird? What shall I do now?

I'm assuming you did re-lock the bootloader before trying acehack kit?
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ghostofcain said:
I'm assuming you did re-lock the bootloader before trying acehack kit?
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No, not really.
The bootloader is still unlocked at this moment.
Should I relock it? (why?)

You need to flash the boot.img for every rom, since you used the HTC dev method. Like above stated relock your boot loader and try the kit. As to why relock it, because the kit tells you too
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marsdta said:
You need to flash the boot.img for every rom, since you used the HTC dev method. Like above stated relock your boot loader and try the kit. As to why relock it, because the kit tells you too
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Hey! That worked! Thank you so much!
I thought it was Clockwork's job to flash the boot (which is inside the zip), but after I installed the zip from Clockwork's recovery boot, I also flashed the boot.img with fastboot and now it works!
Thank you again!

If your soff then yes cwr will flash the boot. But because your son cwr currently can't. 4ext recovery does have a new option that will flash it for you, not sure how it works but you might want totake a look into it, as to avoid needing a computer to flash roms .
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[Q] do i need s off for installing custom roms

i am a little confused .... i rooted my desire hd and installed cwm recovery..... bootloader is unlocked but i couldnt get s off..... can i just install custom roms by putting zip in sd card and apllying that zip from cmw recovery or do i need s off !!!!!
thanks in advance

assasin196 said:
i am a little confused .... i rooted my desire hd and installed cwm recovery..... bootloader is unlocked but i couldnt get s off..... can i just install custom roms by putting zip in sd card and apllying that zip from cmw recovery or do i need s off !!!!!
thanks in advance
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No you do not technically need to be s-off. If you have cwm installed just install rom zip from there

thekool11 said:
No you do not technically need to be s-off. If you have cwm installed just install rom zip from there
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what basically is s off????

assasin196 said:
what basically is s off????
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In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag.
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Quoted from here

If you are bootloader unlocked instead of S-Off, you also need to fastboot flash a boot.img after each time you flash a ROM from recovery.

bananagranola said:
If you are bootloader unlocked instead of S-Off, you also need to fastboot flash a boot.img after each time you flash a ROM from recovery.
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sir how to do that.... i have unlocked bootloader i need to flash rcmix energized rom... how to flash boot.img and where do i find it????

Extract the ROM, than flash the boot.img, but I would consult in the ace think tank thread b4 you do something because I might be wrong
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Look for instructions in post #7 of the link in my signature.

PLZ HELP
hey guys
i have a htc sensation rooted + unlocked bootloader + clockworkmod installed but NO s-off so can i install custom roms
If YES then can anyone tell me which rom is the best?:good:

Salman03 said:
hey guys
i have a htc sensation rooted + unlocked bootloader + clockworkmod installed but NO s-off so can i install custom roms
If YES then can anyone tell me which rom is the best?:good:
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Your in the wrong place my friend, you might want to look here for Roms for your device

My xposed modules sent working is it because I don't have s off? I'm rooted with twrp any advise

HTC desire HD bootloop

I was helping out a friend to flash a custom rom , to update his device to a newer version , as a former LG optimus 3d owner i figured nothing can be more problematic , so we went on to unlock the device with easyunlocker tool , then flashed the latest twrp recovery from fastboot. We first tried Legacycarbon , it was stuck in a bootloop with htc logo without the quietly brilliant bit. Then we tried pac-man 4.2.2 bootloop again , lastly we tried cyanogenmod 10.1 again bootloop... First i thought maybe it's the recovery , i flashed the latest clockwork non-touch and flashed all these roms , still bootloop... My friend accidentally wiped the backup we made of the stock rom. Now the device is soft bricked. I've heard people talk about 4ext recovery , so i thought maybe i should give it a try but as it turns out , the only way to install it is with the play store app. As the device is soft bricked i need a fastboot image.
So my question is , what could be the problem ?
If you think the the problem is with the recovery can you export your recovery partition so i can use it through fastboot?
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You can flash the. .img file from fastboot, but recovery is not the problem. Try wiping all partitions (/data /cache and /system), and flashing a rom
Inviato dal mio GT-I9100

totalnoob34 said:
You can flash the. .img file from fastboot, but recovery is not the problem. Try wiping all partitions (/data /cache and /system), and flashing a rom
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Yeah , i left that out. As a nexus owner i have a habit of wiping my system , data , cache and dalvik-cache partitions. I've managed to get a recovery backup from another friend who owns the same device , and flashed it to the phone , now it's working.
Although i'm very curious as to why it gets stuck in a bootloop...
I think it may be because of the partition size difference , then the ROMs that i downloaded didn't contain partition images , still it was through teamviewer , i couldn't really extract his partition table to take a look at it , i'll do that when i get my hands on the device.

Hi! It seems to be the same problem I met since friday. My HTC DESIRE HD doesn't want to start, it goes on a bootloop at the logo cyanogenmod.. I had the CM 10.1, so I have now tested to make a new installation by replacing it with a newer version of CM 10.1 but it's always the same problem.. bootloop again and again.
Moreover I have flashed the boot.img which was in the folder off CM 10.1 but no result.. I've tried to do it with MIUANDROID rom and it seems to be the same bootlooping again..
Please can someone help me?
Thanks

sosointello said:
Hi! It seems to be the same problem I met since friday. My HTC DESIRE HD doesn't want to start, it goes on a bootloop at the logo cyanogenmod.. I had the CM 10.1, so I have now tested to make a new installation by replacing it with a newer version of CM 10.1 but it's always the same problem.. bootloop again and again.
Moreover I have flashed the boot.img which was in the folder off CM 10.1 but no result.. I've tried to do it with MIUANDROID rom and it seems to be the same bootlooping again..
Please can someone help me?
Thanks
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Try flashing a RUU. If that is not working and you are still on a bootloop then it might be a motherboard issue.

glevitan said:
Try flashing a RUU. If that is not working and you are still on a bootloop then it might be a motherboard issue.
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be careful as re installing RUU might not let you re rooting it ...

zinedzine said:
be careful as re installing RUU might not let you re rooting it ...
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How come?
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zinedzine said:
be careful as re installing RUU might not let you re rooting it ...
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He should be able to unlock with HTCDev and root, or use the AAHK2 to s-off and root. I'm not sure if OP had already unlocked the bootloader, but there's a chance that the ruu won't update it (newer/same version as included in the ruu) meaning he'd keep his BL unlock
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from what i've read here on the forum, and if my understanding is correct, ruu are like "original" roms. files that we don't flash from recovry.
it's a différent method and in the end we obtain a stock phone with an "untouched" os like an original one.
if it is the case then you should install a ruu with android 2.3.5 on it, as if you update up to a ruu with android 2.3.7, again from what i've read, it won't be possible to root back the phone then.
i might be wrong but just thought i'll point it out to you so you can research on that.
it's possible that by now there is a way, but i havn't read or heard about it.

Justice™ said:
He should be able to unlock with HTCDev and root, or use the AAHK2 to s-off and root. I'm not sure if OP had already unlocked the bootloader, but there's a chance that the ruu won't update it (newer/same version as included in the ruu) meaning he'd keep his BL unlock
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Well you are definitely wrong. All versions are rootable. Ruu stands for remote update utility and it is the stock firmware of the device.
You cannot flash a ruu in recovery but have to do it in fastboot. From there you can unlock the bootloader and root.
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glevitan said:
Well you are definitely wrong. All versions are rootable. Ruu stands for remote update utility and it is the stock firmware of the device.
You cannot flash a ruu in recovery but have to do it in fastboot. From there you can unlock the bootloader and root.
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I think I might've completely screwed up what I was trying to say or you may have misunderstood what I was saying. So I'm just going to refer back to what I was trying to explain in context of an older HTC device (Wildfire, in this case).
In some scenarios with the Wildfire, we were able to run an RUU and successfully roll back to a stock rom whilst retaining a S-OFF bootloader (Meaning the ability to use fastboot to flash a recovery and root using a su zip was possible). I think I was trying to say this may be possible/may occur with the DHD. Meaning that OP would just have to use fastboot to flash a recovery and an appropriate superuser zip to get root, and therefore any version would be rootable (even if he rolled back). However at this point I'm not sure if the DHD RUU's overwrite the hboot/bootloader. (I've never really felt like flashing one and I don't feel like getting another sim unlock code at this point)

Justice™ said:
I think I might've completely screwed up what I was trying to say or you may have misunderstood what I was saying. So I'm just going to refer back to what I was trying to explain in context of an older HTC device (Wildfire, in this case).
In some scenarios with the Wildfire, we were able to run an RUU and successfully roll back to a stock rom whilst retaining a S-OFF bootloader (Meaning the ability to use fastboot to flash a recovery and root using a su zip was possible). I think I was trying to say this may be possible/may occur with the DHD. Meaning that OP would just have to use fastboot to flash a recovery and an appropriate superuser zip to get root, and therefore any version would be rootable (even if he rolled back). However at this point I'm not sure if the DHD RUU's overwrite the hboot/bootloader. (I've never really felt like flashing one and I don't feel like getting another sim unlock code at this point)
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No problem man, but Hboot and S-OFF are not the same. All RUU's have partitions in them including bootloader, however nand partition is not reverted to S-ON by flashing an stock rom, unless you specifically do that. There is no risk to lose the S-OFF state by flashing a RUU.

glevitan said:
Well you are definitely wrong. All versions are rootable. Ruu stands for remote update utility and it is the stock firmware of the device.
You cannot flash a ruu in recovery but have to do it in fastboot. From there you can unlock the bootloader and root.
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I stand corrected Monsieur :highfive:

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i dont now .......:cyclops:

I didn't see mention of s-off in your question. If you are not s-off, you have to extract the rom's boot.IMG and fastboot flash it after rom installation.
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You can install with RUU, then u can downgrade, root, s-off it with AAHK2. So it's possible to root it

can I flash any custom rom's with s on?

I have an unlocked bootloader but not s-off am I still able to flash custom roms? if so how do I know which ones I can flash?

dbarrett480 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader but not s-off am I still able to flash custom roms? if so how do I know which ones I can flash?
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Does the old trick of booting to recovery via fastboot still work? I haven't had an HTC phone for a while....

dbarrett480 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader but not s-off am I still able to flash custom roms? if so how do I know which ones I can flash?
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dbarrett480 said:
Does the old trick of booting to recovery via fastboot still work? I haven't had an HTC phone for a while....
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Yes you can flash any ROM while S-On. S-Off is not needed for that.
And yes, you can get to recovery via your bootloader. But once you have a custom ROM, the option to boot to recovery will be available when you long press power.

S-OFF only really comes handy as you can flash different FW packages that aren't signed by HTC, or downgrade to an older FW package if required/wanted

Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand you can't flash a kernel with S-ON right?

TempestZ said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand you can't flash a kernel with S-ON right?
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Wrong
U can flash following partitions
system
boot
data
recovery

TempestZ said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand you can't flash a kernel with S-ON right?
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That was the case with the One X a few years back but changed since...

I was able to flash a kernel last night by fastbooting to recovery
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