Hey guys,
recently i recognized that my GNex was missing some storage space.
As you can see in the pictures it says, only 3GB available whereas apprx. only 5GB are displayed as used. But there should be much more free space.
So i used the App DiskUsage and saw, that 'system data' is taking up 6GB, wich is way too much, right?
Any Ideas how i can fix that?
I'm using TWRP 2.4.3.0.
FuelFlo said:
Hey guys,
recently i recognized that my GNex was missing some storage space.
As you can see in the pictures it says, only 3GB available whereas apprx. only 5GB are displayed as used. But there should be much more free space.
So i used the App DiskUsage and saw, that 'system data' is taking up 6GB, wich is way too much, right?
Any Ideas how i can fix that?
I'm using TWRP 2.4.3.0.
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no idea how to fix it without a wipe but just for comparison, mine says 2153 MB for System Data
do you have old backups in /data/media/<TWRP or Clockworkmod>
have you updated your recovery?
i, too, had that problem before i realize it was the nandriod backups i had with CWM.
Try deleting your oldest backup and you should see a decrease in your "system data"
Okay, i checked and i should have no backups left.
I already deleted them some days ago. Yesterday somehow i discovered 2 backups in the 'lost+found' folder and have no idea, what they were doing in this spot. So i deleted the, too.
(i did all the deleting with a file explorer[root browser lite] an not with TWRP)
Yea and i updated from TWRP 2.4.1 to 2.4.3 recently.
So whats the way to shrink 'system data'. Isn't it a partition? So i would have to repartition it?
no, 'system data' is not a partition. its a part of the /data partition naming convention aside.
you should verify that your backups are actually deleted, because if you dont do it from the right directory, they will still be there. i had this exact issue with CWM backups on my device, after I had switched over to TWRP, and had to delete the backups from /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod (i think that was the exact path)
Pirateghost said:
no, 'system data' is not a partition. its a part of the /data partition naming convention aside.
you should verify that your backups are actually deleted, because if you dont do it from the right directory, they will still be there. i had this exact issue with CWM backups on my device, after I had switched over to TWRP, and had to delete the backups from /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod (i think that was the exact path)
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All right, thanks. Found no Backups but i discovered that 'lost+found' had a huge size of 5.5 GB.
So i deleted it via TWRP file manager...and android created a fresh one on the next boot.
It seems that 'Root Browser lite' wich I was using didn't delete all the files (including old backups)l properly and so they endet up in lost+found.
Thanks again for your help!
Pirateghost said:
no, 'system data' is not a partition. its a part of the /data partition naming convention aside.
you should verify that your backups are actually deleted, because if you dont do it from the right directory, they will still be there. i had this exact issue with CWM backups on my device, after I had switched over to TWRP, and had to delete the backups from /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod (i think that was the exact path)
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This has actually come as a big surprise for me too!!!
I always had in excess of 3GB space hence never bothered checking what was occupying my used memory.
Reading this post I decided to analyze it finally, and CWM is using 2.9GB space in the /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod path!!
Thanks to all who contributed in this post. :good: This is going to help many people. :highfive:
Another surprise:
The disk usage app shows 2.9GB in the above folder, but using ES file explorer, I cannot see anything there.
Will try another file explorer and try.
tgeery said:
no idea how to fix it without a wipe but just for comparison, mine says 2153 MB for System Data
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I deleted the backups using ROM toolbox Pro!
Now my system data is a measly 1040MB!!! (Down from 3.9GB) And my system is super smooth now.
I am using AOSPA 3.1.
Is such small usage normal?
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Hi,
I just noticed a folder named "Blobs" in my Clockworkmod folder that is eating up some space. What is this for? Anyway I can move it to my external sd card at all? After some research I know it's from previous backups. What if I deleted those backups? What I do is when I make a nandroid backup, I usually move it to my computer, and if I need it at all, I put it back into my clockworkmod folder, and restore. Will this still work?
Edit: It's taking up about 2Gb of space on my sdcard, and I only have one backup on there.
Papaniz said:
Hi,
I just noticed a folder named "Blobs" in my Clockworkmod folder that is eating up some space. What is this for? Anyway I can move it to my external sd card at all? After some research I know it's from previous backups. What if I deleted those backups? What I do is when I make a nandroid backup, I usually move it to my computer, and if I need it at all, I put it back into my clockworkmod folder, and restore. Will this still work?
Edit: It's taking up about 2Gb of space on my sdcard, and I only have one backup on there.
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Thats your acual backup of your rom from what I understand. Whenever you backup again it keeps certain information and deletes the rest. I usually erase the blob folder whenever I am starting over with an absolutly new rom for the most storage. Last time I did that the blobs folder was over 6gigs.
Now I do use Rom Manager and in settings it does give you the option to use external memory but mine is greyed out. Anybody know how to activate it?
SimmIsengard said:
Thats your acual backup of your rom from what I understand. Whenever you backup again it keeps certain information and deletes the rest. I usually erase the blob folder whenever I am starting over with an absolutly new rom for the most storage. Last time I did that the blobs folder was over 6gigs.
Now I do use Rom Manager and in settings it does give you the option to use external memory but mine is greyed out. Anybody know how to activate it?
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I probably wouldn't delete it, one of the purposes of the Blobs is to reduce the backup file size, and from what I know, it deletes the useless files in the blob folder when you make a new backup. Does anyone know if this is right? This is what I understand to my knowledge at the moment.
Hi! I am new to making Nadroid backups. Yesterday, I could've swore my /blobs folder was about 3GB. Today, when I made another Nandroid and it was at 6GB.
I'm on the dedup method, so my /blobs folder shouldn't be increasing. I also tried "free unused backup data" and still at 6GB.
Here's my storage usage, attached. Am I in the right ballpark or is something odd here?
P.S. If anyone has a Nandroid backup management system, let me know! I keep jumping between CWM Recovery to make them and then to Android to fix all the things CWM Recovery does wrong (like the date-for-the-file-name; it's not 1970 and the month/day/time are all incorrect) and can't do (like viewing the backups, renaming the backups, uploading the backups to cloud storage).
My blobs folder at one point was at 4gig. I deleted all my backups except for two. Went into cwm and selected free space under backup/restore and brought it down to 1.01gig.
Mind you the only backup I care about (rooted, stock with TW) is 1.8gig but I have that on external and on my computer just in case.
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KorGuy123 said:
My blobs folder at one point was at 4gig. I deleted all my backups except for two. Went into cwm and selected free space under backup/restore and brought it down to 1.01gig.
Mind you the only backup I care about (rooted, stock with TW) is 1.8gig but I have that on external and on my computer just in case.
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Hmmm...that may be it: this new backup required new blobs for whatever reason. Let me figure out a way to restore SystemUI and SecSettings to stock and then maybe delete those early backups...
How much space have you used,by chance, on the internal SD card?
~Ibrahim~
the blobs folder continues to grow with each backup. the only time it would decrease is you delete a backup then clear unused data after booting to recovery.
this blobs folder will drive your media scanner CRAZY.
my suggestion is to boot into recovery, set the backup type to .tar rather than the default .dup. This unfortunately will cause each backup to take up approx 1.5g, but that is an incredible reduction in indvidual files for the media scanner to scan. but, thats what ext sd cards are for
after making this change, if you have .dup backups you want to convert to .tar, you will have to restore each then backup again.
ikjadoon said:
Hmmm...that may be it: this new backup required new blobs for whatever reason. Let me figure out a way to restore SystemUI and SecSettings to stock and then maybe delete those early backups...
How much space have you used,by chance, on the internal SD card?
~Ibrahim~
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I formatted internal when I went to PAC-Man I've done one back since so my internal is fairly empty. (I switched to TWRP recovery and the backups are around 750mbps)
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Russ77 said:
the blobs folder continues to grow with each backup. the only time it would decrease is you delete a backup then clear unused data after booting to recovery.
this blobs folder will drive your media scanner CRAZY.
my suggestion is to boot into recovery, set the backup type to .tar rather than the default .dup. This unfortunately will cause each backup to take up approx 1.5g, but that is an incredible reduction in indvidual files for the media scanner to scan. but, thats what ext sd cards are for
after making this change, if you have .dup backups you want to convert to .tar, you will have to restore each then backup again.
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YES. YES. THAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE! These things are all related! My Media scanner, out of *nowhere*, exploded to 50% battery usage.
Going to *.tar, then. Thank you hugely.
@KorGuy
I may transition to TWRP. CWM is a fine recovery, but it's backup solution isn't up to par. Appreciate the help!
0... I don't make nandroids... use the external sd...
Quasimodem said:
0... I don't make nandroids... use the external sd...
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Wait, so how do you backup? I make Nandroids onto the external SD.
ikjadoon said:
Wait, so how do you backup? I make Nandroids onto the external SD.
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I don't make backups or use tibu...
Not sent from your phone...
Quasimodem said:
I don't make backups or use tibu...
Not sent from your phone...
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You're brave. But probably more experienced. I bootloop'd my GS3 after just trying to modify the framework-res.apk and my Nandroid saved me! But, I'm on TWRP now and it looks much better.
ikjadoon said:
You're brave. But probably more experienced. I bootloop'd my GS3 after just trying to modify the framework-res.apk and my Nandroid saved me! But, I'm on TWRP now and it looks much better.
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I've got everything I need on the SD to fix whatever... not really worried about it...
Not sent from your phone...
To be honest the huge blobs folder you are stuck with using cwm is exactly why I switched to twrp recovery and I was a long time user and big fan of cwm for a long time. But the blobs really screwed that up for me anyway. Twrp works great and is better in my opinion ...
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I'm using cwm 6.0.2.2 touch recovery and it doesn't have none of that blob folder crap
sent from the dark side of the universe....
thatsupnow said:
I'm using cwm 6.0.2.2 touch recovery and it doesn't have none of that blob folder crap
sent from the dark side of the universe....
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I just updated cwm and noticed that the default is now .tar
Good call from Koush, then. They're a good idea, but executed poorly.
But, CWM has problems for me beyond blobs: it mislabels backups without a way to rename in CWM, somehow mismatched the MD5 of my backups (until I renamed them to "backup" ), and doesn't seem to compress backups = all fixed in TWRP.
Battery life is fixed!
Hey guys, hope this is in the right forum..
I flashed CWM and installed CM 10.1.2 last night, and it seems to work great.
The problem I had though, was that the device reported that 6gb was already in use by the system. Going to settings/storage showed that only 5gb was available for free useage.
I installed the DiskUsage app, and it showed that ~6gb was in use by "System data".
After a little more digging around, I discovered that ALL of my old files were still stored in /data/media, including the CWM backup I made.
I did wipe data/ factory reset when I installed the ROM.
I already copied the CWM backup I made onto my PC, along with everything else I wanted to save, so is it safe to delete the stuff in /data/media? I do see that there is a /data/media/0 folder which seems to have the new stuff in it...
I have the same issue. I deleted the duplicated file under /data/media and keep the file under /data/media/0, the phone still working properly.
Hi All,
Hopefully this should be a very quick question. I'm loading CM onto my phone, and this is the first ROM I've ever used. I've loaded CWM, made a backup, and I'm about ready to go and load CW on. I've noticed though that out of the 5 or so gig the phone comes with for internal memory, about 4gb is used up. Is this just the system and the back up and apps?? It seems quite a lot. Will CM fill this up further? Will I encounter any issues?
I hope thats all clear, but excuse me for being a beginner.
EDIT: This is now even more relevant now CM is flashed. I've just looked in the file viewer, and there's still all the folders etc from the old samsung, and amazonmp3 etc etc. I thought the "wipe data/factory reset" in CWM would have cleared all this.....
Many thanks for looking.
floateruk said:
Hi All,
Hopefully this should be a very quick question. I'm loading CM onto my phone, and this is the first ROM I've ever used. I've loaded CWM, made a backup, and I'm about ready to go and load CW on. I've noticed though that out of the 5 or so gig the phone comes with for internal memory, about 4gb is used up. Is this just the system and the back up and apps?? It seems quite a lot. Will CM fill this up further? Will I encounter any issues?
I hope thats all clear, but excuse me for being a beginner.
EDIT: This is now even more relevant now CM is flashed. I've just looked in the file viewer, and there's still all the folders etc from the old samsung, and amazonmp3 etc etc. I thought the "wipe data/factory reset" in CWM would have cleared all this.....
Many thanks for looking.
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Factory reset only wipes the data partition. For the first time installing a custom ROM, and especially going from stock to cm for the first time, you should wipe the system partition which can be done from cwm.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
Want to know how to boost your devices performance and battery life? See my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495269
iKlutz said:
Factory reset only wipes the data partition. For the first time installing a custom ROM, and especially going from stock to cm for the first time, you should wipe the system partition which can be done from cwm.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
Want to know how to boost your devices performance and battery life? See my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495269
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Hi again.
So I finally got round to trying to get this sorted.... and I'm failing. I've booted into CWM, rerun the "wipe/data factory reset", rerun the "wipe cache" then went into "mounts and storage" and did a format of the system partition, but it still hasn't cleared any of the data.
Am I doing something incorrectly? I didn't want to play around with it too much, in case i bork it all. Any help would be massively appreciated.
Also, I'm a bit concerned about what formatting the system partition will do. Does it just clear the rom already on there, and I can then flash Cyanogenmod back on from my sd card?
Thanks
floateruk said:
Hi again.
So I finally got round to trying to get this sorted.... and I'm failing. I've booted into CWM, rerun the "wipe/data factory reset", rerun the "wipe cache" then went into "mounts and storage" and did a format of the system partition, but it still hasn't cleared any of the data.
Am I doing something incorrectly? I didn't want to play around with it too much, in case i bork it all. Any help would be massively appreciated.
Also, I'm a bit concerned about what formatting the system partition will do. Does it just clear the rom already on there, and I can then flash Cyanogenmod back on from my sd card?
Thanks
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Formatting system partition wipes the currently installed rom / system apps.
How do you know that it is not wiping the data? If you do a system format and your rom still boots then it isn't working properly.
It could be a problem with the version of recovery (cwm / twrp) that you're using. It can't hurt to update it, which could be the case here.
Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
iKlutz said:
Formatting system partition wipes the currently installed rom / system apps.
How do you know that it is not wiping the data? If you do a system format and your rom still boots then it isn't working properly.
It could be a problem with the version of recovery (cwm / twrp) that you're using. It can't hurt to update it, which could be the case here.
Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
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Thanks for coming back so quickly!
So if you see the attached, this is what I'm looking at. The phone has 5.5gb internal memory, of which, looking at the below, I'm using about 1.5gb, BUT I only have 1gb left to use, and I get warnings about lack of memory.... So there's 3gb being used for.... I don't know.
When I first put cyanogen on, I noticed that the file structure from stock was still there (i.e. all the folder my old apps made). I expected when I put CM on that it would wipe everything, including all of those folders.
You can try an app called es file explorer, it has a feature that fully scans the contents of the internal SD card.
It should show a list of all the folders from the old stock data folders. You can multi select and delete what you want.
Another option which is more efficient, is to make a full backup of all the internal data in your PC. Then fully format the internal SD card via cwm and transfer which contents you need back from the PC such as photos and music. Asides from photos, music and other media items, most of those internal SD contents aren't needed as Android uses these folders for app data etc.
Always make back ups.
Your welcome.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
iKlutz said:
You can try an app called es file explorer, it has a feature that fully scans the contents of the internal SD card.
It should show a list of all the folders from the old stock data folders. You can multi select and delete what you want.
Another option which is more efficient, is to make a full backup of all the internal data in your PC. Then fully format the internal SD card via cwm and transfer which contents you need back from the PC such as photos and music. Asides from photos, music and other media items, most of those internal SD contents aren't needed as Android uses these folders for app data etc.
Always make back ups.
Your welcome.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
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Yeah, I have got ES File explorer. I couldn't find a "scan" but I've gone through all the folder on my device and I can see the following:
/storage - 3.83gb
/mnt - 2.11gb
/sdcard - 893mb
A lot of this seems to be duplicated though.... The stuff on mnt seems to be a shortcut to whats in sdcard, and all that in storage seems to be in the other two. I don't technically think it's all duplicated, but different ways to get to the same stuff, which makes me very nervous about deleting any of it....
Just got a liitle program to give a break down. See attached.
Surely my system data shouldn't be that big?
I recommend you make a full back up in your PC and format the SD card and transfer the contents of your current SD folder back. I've done it before on different devices, I do it on first root / cm install coming from stock because of all the old obsolete data. Apps like clean master won't removing it because it's marked as important for stock users. It shouldn't be a problem.
Note:
Having different links to the data partition is normal. It's purpose is compatibility.
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It's possible that's reserved for the system. Mine is similar. You can still use it if you convert user apps into system ones.
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iKlutz said:
I recommend you make a full back up in your PC and format the SD card and transfer the contents of your current SD folder back. I've done it before on different devices, I do it on first root / cm install coming from stock because of all the old obsolete data. Apps like clean master won't removing it because it's marked as important for stock users. It shouldn't be a problem.
Note:
Having different links to the data partition is normal. It's purpose is compatibility.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
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It's possible that's reserved for the system. Mine is similar. You can still use it if you convert user apps into system ones.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
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Just found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083107
It's something to do with backups. I'm gonna read through that thread and see if I can find out what I can/can't delete without bricking the phone.
Massively appreciate your time and repsonses on this iKlutz. Just out of interest, did you do a backup when you installed a rom? Have you found that the backup is this big??
Use ES file explorer or other file manager with root explorer capabilities.
Go to /data/media
You should see:
0
clockworkmod
legacy
obb
In clockworkmod folder I've found a backup (2.0GB) that was made by mistake to internal sotrage, since I allways do backup in CWM Recovery to external SD.
Deleted and 2.0GB were gained.
luisbraz said:
Use ES file explorer or other file manager with root explorer capabilities.
Go to /data/media
You should see:
0
clockworkmod
legacy
obb
In clockworkmod folder I've found a backup (2.0GB) that was made by mistake to internal sotrage, since I allways do backup in CWM Recovery to external SD.
Deleted and 2.0GB were gained.
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Hmmm. Data/Media is empty.... I might delete the back up from CWM. If the worst happens, I can always flash from the external SD card can't i? Do I "need" that back up of the device when it was stock?
floateruk said:
Hmmm. Data/Media is empty.... I might delete the back up from CWM. If the worst happens, I can always flash from the external SD card can't i? Do I "need" that back up of the device when it was stock?
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Do not delete.
Copy the folder(s) that you have in the "backup" to the external SD card to the "backup" folder in the "clockworkmod" folder.
Then, you can delete the backup folder located in "data/media/clockworkmod/".
I allways save the backup of the stock ROM's.
To restore in CWM recovery, simply choose "restore from external SD card". And to backup, choose "backup to external SD card", or it will backup to the internal memory.
floateruk said:
Hmmm. Data/Media is empty.... I might delete the back up from CWM. If the worst happens, I can always flash from the external SD card can't i? Do I "need" that back up of the device when it was stock?
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Did you solve the issue?
luisbraz said:
Did you solve the issue?
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No.... I don't really know what to do with it.
I've got an s3 mini with Cyanogen and CWM and the system data portion is only 54mb.
I might go into CWM and start deleting things. If I delete the backup I made of my stock phone when I first rooted and added CWM, I can't see too many issues.... I can always flash a stock ROM again can't I?
floateruk said:
No.... I don't really know what to do with it.
I've got an s3 mini with Cyanogen and CWM and the system data portion is only 54mb.
I might go into CWM and start deleting things. If I delete the backup I made of my stock phone when I first rooted and added CWM, I can't see too many issues.... I can always flash a stock ROM again can't I?
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Yes, using Odin you can flash stock ROM again.
Next time do the backups in CWM to the external SD card!
Hi All,
Been trying to figure this out for the last 30 Hours straight & now I'm at the end of my rag with bloody knuckles & a hole in my desk... So I thought this would be a good a time as any to ask for some advice/help!
I have upgraded/flashed my HTC One M8 (2014) from LP (Android_Revolution_HD-One_M8_41.0_866186) to MM (ResurrectionRemix-M-v5.6.2-20160203-m8) (Based off CM13). I created a backup of all my Apps & Data using Titanium Backup & also made a full Nandroid backup using TWRP.
The problem is with restoring the data within the Nandroid backup, previously I have used the "Extract Data From Nandroid Backup" option in Titanium Backup to extract my SMS/MMS messages to my new Rom. However when I try to do that on MM I'm greeted with the message "Failed to locate your TWRP backups directory. Please verify that the "TWRP/BACKUPS" folder exists on your SD card."
To make thing worse, when I try to restore my Nandroid backup, it all goes well except my WiFi & Mobile Data no longer work... I can connect to my WiFi but it always says that there is no internet connection. So restoring is not an option as I can't do much without internet access.
Anyone have any ideas? I have tried to use a different SD Card & no joy, could it maybe be a permissions issue or something or am I just being a muppet & missing a simple solution.
Either way any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Oh yeah, I Googled the message that Titanium brings up with quotation marks & there were only TWO results (both from the same thread on XDA)... I've never seen Google look so barren!
Hi - I'm having a similar issue. Upgraded from LP to MM and can't extract apps/data from Nandroid backup...
It says it's been successful but no apps are there...
NeoSonic said:
Hi All,
Been trying to figure this out for the last 30 Hours straight & now I'm at the end of my rag with bloody knuckles & a hole in my desk... So I thought this would be a good a time as any to ask for some advice/help!
I have upgraded/flashed my HTC One M8 (2014) from LP (Android_Revolution_HD-One_M8_41.0_866186) to MM (ResurrectionRemix-M-v5.6.2-20160203-m8) (Based off CM13). I created a backup of all my Apps & Data using Titanium Backup & also made a full Nandroid backup using TWRP.
The problem is with restoring the data within the Nandroid backup, previously I have used the "Extract Data From Nandroid Backup" option in Titanium Backup to extract my SMS/MMS messages to my new Rom. However when I try to do that on MM I'm greeted with the message "Failed to locate your TWRP backups directory. Please verify that the "TWRP/BACKUPS" folder exists on your SD card."
To make thing worse, when I try to restore my Nandroid backup, it all goes well except my WiFi & Mobile Data no longer work... I can connect to my WiFi but it always says that there is no internet connection. So restoring is not an option as I can't do much without internet access.
Anyone have any ideas? I have tried to use a different SD Card & no joy, could it maybe be a permissions issue or something or am I just being a muppet & missing a simple solution.
Either way any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Oh yeah, I Googled the message that Titanium brings up with quotation marks & there were only TWO results (both from the same thread on XDA)... I've never seen Google look so barren!
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Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
topjohnwu said:
Q: **** app cannot access external SDcard!!
A: Look at this explanation:
Since Kitkat (2 years ago man), we don't have direct external storage write permission. Google consider it insecure, so they implemented this feature. The reason why you can access external SDcard easily before is because most roms on XDA already contains a hack in /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml. You should not rely on this hack forever, please take a look below.
In lollipop and after, Google provided a much secure and better way to grant external storage access to third party apps, first of all take a look at this article for details:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...s-automatic-mediastore-and-improves-security/
So instead of using the old platform.xml hack in the old Kitkat days, adopt yourself with this new behavior of Android!! If a certain app cannot access SDcard, ASK THE DEVELOPER to add support for this API!!
Many apps already have support for this API. I'll take Titanium Backup for example, as lots of you cannot find the way to use it on externals SD. In Menu>>Preferences>>Backup Location, you can choose Document Provider on top of the detect button.
In the provider, open the menu on the top right corner and select "Show SDcard", then you'll see External Storage in the left side. Select external SDcard in the document provider and press the button on the bottom, the app will then be granted access to the whole external storage. You can then create a new folder in TiBack and select it as your backup location.
Other apps also follows the instructions above, you just have to manually set up the folder where the app can access, in the case which most of us would love to give access to the whole SDcard, I set the location to the root of external storage. Each app has independent permission, so you have to manually grant each app you wish to access external storage.
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-Duir- said:
Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
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'allo mate, I appreciate the reply but it has done nothing for me, just to clarify, I can see my backed up Apps & Data so I'm pretty sure it already has access to the SD card (correct me if I'm wrong) but it is still unable to see the Nandroid TWRP backup... bit of a Jar as I just paid for the premium version of Titanium Backup & Nandroid Manager. Nandroid Manager is able to see the files but hangs when trying to extract the Messages...
Any Ideas?
NeoSonic said:
'allo mate, I appreciate the reply but it has done nothing for me, just to clarify, I can see my backed up Apps & Data so I'm pretty sure it already has access to the SD card (correct me if I'm wrong) but it is still unable to see the Nandroid TWRP backup... bit of a Jar as I just paid for the premium version of Titanium Backup & Nandroid Manager. Nandroid Manager is able to see the files but hangs when trying to extract the Messages...
Any Ideas?
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Copy or move the backup folder to internal storage and it will work. Not sure if it's a bug in TB or because of how MM handles the external sdcard but it doesn't check it. It finds the TWRP folder on internal, which if you don't backup on internal, only has your preferences (and theme if you use one). I never used it, so not sure if it was an issue before MM or not.
I did try and got an error about not finding a "clockworkmod/backup" folder or a "TWRP/Backups" folder so to see what happened I made a "Backups" folder in the TWRP directory on my internal storage and the error basically changed to say there were no backups in it.
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Copy or move the backup folder to internal storage and it will work. Not sure if it's a bug in TB or because of how MM handles the external sdcard but it doesn't check it. It finds the TWRP folder on internal, which if you don't backup on internal, only has your preferences (and theme if you use one). I never used it, so not sure if it was an issue before MM or not.
I did try and got an error about not finding a "clockworkmod/backup" folder or a "TWRP/Backups" folder so to see what happened I made a "Backups" folder in the TWRP directory on my internal storage and the error basically changed to say there were no backups in it.
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Cheers for that mate, seems to have done the trick. Unfortunately when I restore my Phone & Messaging data it completely destroys my phone... I get the message "com.android.phone" has stopped working & the entire system slows down to a crawl... I also get the Sim Card icon in the top right of the screen with a line through it... Is this because I'm moving between Sense to something else? I'm really at my wits end with this.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
NeoSonic said:
Cheers for that mate, seems to have done the trick. Unfortunately when I restore my Phone & Messaging data it completely destroys my phone... I get the message "com.android.phone" has stopped working & the entire system slows down to a crawl... I also get the Sim Card icon in the top right of the screen with a line through it... Is this because I'm moving between Sense to something else? I'm really at my wits end with this.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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I would say that's definitely it. Not only are you restoring app data for system apps from two different Android versions (LP -> MM) which can be buggy, but also for two completely different builds (Sense -> CM) which don't use the same apps. Sense will use HTC's own Phone and Messaging apps and CM if I remember uses stock Android versions). It's been too long since I tried CM but when I did it I had a third-party program for backing up contacts and installed something like GoSMS to backup messages, then installed the same apps on CM and restored the data from within those apps and the stock dialer/messaging apps had the data. But this was before HTC added backup/restore capability into their versions of the apps.
I'm having a similar issue, I google searched and it brought me here. I can see my backup from within TWRP, even on the PC I can see the TWRP folder and files. But when I boot and use titanium backup or nandroid manager, it says backup not found. Even in the root browser, the TWRP folder is empty and even on the PC I can't see the files anymore. Its kind of frustrating because there are two apps that I want restored but I don't want to completly restore using TWRP.
rapiollymega said:
I'm having a similar issue, I google searched and it brought me here. I can see my backup from within TWRP, even on the PC I can see the TWRP folder and files. But when I boot and use titanium backup or nandroid manager, it says backup not found. Even in the root browser, the TWRP folder is empty and even on the PC I can't see the files anymore. Its kind of frustrating because there are two apps that I want restored but I don't want to completly restore using TWRP.
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Try going to Settings>Apps, find Titanium Backup, then select Permissions and see if Storage is toggled on.
I've got the same problem, storage permission is toggled on. Although I am using a LG G3
same here with my Galaxy S5 (AOKP 6.0.1)
The same problem on Xiaomi Mi Max (Android 6.0.1). External SD card permission is granted to TB (it can see full SD contents and select TWRP backup directories). But "extract from Nandroid backup" shows "folder not found" error.
I'm afraid CWM/TWRP directory locations are hardcoded as "/TWRP on SD card" while /sdcard is mapped to internal memory on modern phones.
I had copied data files of the backup (1.5 gigs, not a best choice) to internal memory (/sdcard) and TB immediately found them. Unfortunately, TB offers only apps and app data for restoration. I need to extract plain user data directories but TB offers no way for that.
Stock S5 6.0.1
same here...what a pain..
Had to copy nandroid backup from extsd to internal storage to restore app data
-Duir- said:
Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
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DAMN THANK YOU that solved it
Anyone knows how to extract the nandroidbackup from the TWRP folder on ExternalStorage? I cannot move the backup because its to large for my InternalStorage. I think it's an issue in TiBackup, creating a symbolic link also does not work since my ExternalStorage is formatted as exFAT.
Another fix I discovered is get your BACKUP ID
twrp save folder > TWRP>BACKUPS>BACKUPID>backup
if you have a backup without a backupid folder it will not work!
Having storage permission or not doesn't seem to help at all!
-Duir- said:
Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
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This helps Titanium Backup see its own backup folder, but doesn't help it see the /TWRP/BACKUPS folder
emuzychenko said:
I'm afraid CWM/TWRP directory locations are hardcoded as "/TWRP on SD card" while /sdcard is mapped to internal memory on modern phones.
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Can a symlink be created from the location it's looking to the location it's actually at?