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I know about and have seen the spreadsheet created by neif. I was wondering if there's any sort of rundown that compares the roms by features, and not just raw stats. Don't get me wrong - the stats are important and big thanks to neif for compiling them.
But i'd like to know what each rom brings to the table besides just which one is the fastest or has the longest battery life.
Right now off the top of my head the few features i'd really like to have would be:
working tether
working hotspot
removal of all the sprint apps, other then maybe sprint nav
I've used unrevoked on my phone, so it's rooted, but that's as far as i have gone so far.
Thanks
Read a ton in the development section. Each of the features you list are usually noted in the OP of each ROM thread. Way too much info to copy and paste!
yeah, i know about the threads in the dev section. Bit of a pain to read through them all though, which is why i was asking if someone had compiled a list similar to what nief did, except highlighting features rather then performance.
thanks
i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
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Xda is just an outlet where people choose to post roms.
To check on the latest status of roms, you need to open the threads and read the OP. You also need to spend at least ten minutes reading each thread, That will tell you how stable each rom is and what kind of results people are having.
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Actually that would be a great idea. It would help out the entire community.
Right now the way things exist, you pretty much have to read through an entire rom thread to determine the benefits/bugs of any given rom.
You could, for example, start a list for any particular rom.. read the entire thread, then make your own thread detailing current known bugs and post it in the same forum. Then the OP of the rom thread could post your link in the first post making it easy for everyone to find.
That would serve two purposes - you would learn the information you're seeking and also become an instantly appreciated contributor to the site.
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I'm surprised the rom developers dont already have a system in place, though. The scope of the projects are presumably gargantuan collaborative works. i kind of assumed that they must have some sort of a bug tracking thing that they use between them. That bug tracking thing is what i've been venturing to find. There are a ton of user-specific bugs that I have no problem digging through the forums and figuring out myself, but what i'd love to see with roms is a list of "this is what we know isnt working yet. dont talk to us about this. we are working on it." or at the very least, "when you flash this rom, if you would like to help, run this command and upload the output HERE so we can fix some bugs we know about".
I'm coming from a linux world and it is very disconcerting to me to flash a rom, encounter a bug/error, and not be able to look at any sort of an error message or do anything to fix the problem except reboot/wipe/reflash and hope for the best. thats a very windows-y mentality to the whole thing, and i feel like if we're running linux on the phones we should be able to get a bit more involved in fixing our own problems a bit better too.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, i'd like to help and i have no clue where to even begin. with archlinux theres a beginners guide but with these roms its more of a "watch this youtube video and follow this tutorial but god help you if anyone thinks you are complaining about what people are doing for you for FREE".
EDIT: I found CM10's issue tracker, but there isnt anything specific for the GS3 there. The flicker and picasa sync issues arent even mentioned. Obviously Paranoid Android and Kang will have the same bugs as CM10, but im assuming that they'll have their own bugs introduced after they add in their own features and such.
ok.
ingenious247 said:
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
i have a question
ingenious247 said:
Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
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i've downloaded the CWM pro and the TB pro. i was wondering what exact ROMS i can use. There is also the difficulty of understanding which rom is exactly which. Is there a way to view the Change log? i'm a super noob. i'm really sorry.
Changelogs won't do you much good.
I recommend flashing everything through CWM (make sure you have 6.0.1.2 Touch - in my signature if not). I wouldn't use ROM Manager at all. Having automated tools is great, but learning how to do it yourself is even better. Plus, if you break something, knowning what you are doing makes it easier to fix. Automated tools hurt more than they help.
As for roms, your options pretty much are as follows:
CyanogenMod: AOSP, the closest thing we have to the stock Google firmware.
AOKP: Pretty much CyanogenMod with some extra options. Nothing extraordinary about those extra options, just some nice things like center clock, swagger toggles, and unicorns.
MIUI: iPhone look for Android.
ParanoidAndroid: Scalable - for tablets (imo).
Then you have the neverending amount of customized stock (TouchWiz) roms.
They are all under constant development. If you want "stable", stay on your stock firmware. All of the roms listed above are stable enough to use as a daily driver. They all have threads in the two Dev forums. But if you don't know what to pick, use CyanogenMod.
I still think ROM Manager is a great tool, it's how I started years ago and I still managed to learn what I needed to over time flashing manually
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Hello, I am loving my Note 2, and I've had it for about a month now. The problem is, I don't like all the changes samsung has made in the stock rom for the phone... And all the pesky bloatware.
The last phone I had was the legendary HTC HD2. (I will never forget it!) I was always up to date with the newest Android version on a phone from the stone age. (Shout out to Tytung and all his amazing work for the HD2!)
So basically I am pretty used to the xda-forums, flashing and having my phone to be exactly how I want it to be. However, I am facing a problem with my picky-ness.
I am looking for a rom with the newest Android version 4.2, because I like the way google meant for the android to be, and I would LOVE it if there were a "clean" Android 4.2 rom for the Note 2. I have found a few of those, but the problem is that I have felt in love with Samsung's S Note-app and the ability to "split screen" (and also a couple of those fancy features, but they are not important). Which leads me to my question:
(tl;dr)
Does it exist a "clean" Android 4.2 rom for the Note 2, which either has the S Note-app and the "split-screen"function included or has an alternative way to implement the app and function into the rom?
Would be a bonus if all the S-pen features were included too, but I guess that would be much to ask.
Thank you for any attention!
Yes same here...I only managed to find a custom stock rom which looks and feels like aosp with the option to remove bloatwares and just leave the spen features.
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An alternative option could be to make a flashable zip with all the S Pen apps and features, which would make it easier for everyone. Then my problem would have been solved. A zip that works with most of the roms, you know.
It would also have been easier for developers, as you could leave it as an open choice whether to implement the S Pen apps/features in the rom or not.
I hope someone could answer me whether this is possible or not. Or maybe tell me the chances of it being done. I am no developer myself, but I think this could be a great idea!!
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Okay, so I've had i317 for about 4 months now, its a great phone. I would just love to see an ics 4.0.4 rom, be it stock or aosp,, aokp, etc for this device. The reason being is that there are alot of apps I used to use, such as UMA and a few others I cannot remember as of right now. Forgive me if this isn't the correct area to post the question lol. But can anyone possibly help me with my issue I'm having? A. ort or something would be ideal if possible.
On a side note: I have some prior knowledge with developing roms and getting them to work fully and such, like betas alphas and what not. just haven't gave much thought as to post on the forum untill now. So I'm not completely of the noob calibur so to speak.
Lastly, my final question, would anyone be interested in deving up a 100% pure custom 4.3 rom that is completely Pokemon themed right down to the contacts and dialer. I will include more detail upon request, also one that isn't 10.1 based or cm in general. The reason I say non cm based is because volume+ sound boost breaks the speaker and crackles pretty badly, and i am partialy deaf so the apk is much needed. Any help would be be very appreciated and id be eternally greatful.
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Okay, so I've had i317 for about 4 months now, its a great phone. I would just love to see an ics 4.0.4 rom, be it stock or aosp,, aokp, etc for this device. The reason being is that there are alot of apps I used to use, such as UMA and a few others I cannot remember as of right now. Forgive me if this isn't the correct area to post the question lol. But can anyone possibly help me with my issue I'm having? A. ort or something would be ideal if possible.
On a side note: I have some prior knowledge with developing roms and getting them to work fully and such, like betas alphas and what not. just haven't gave much thought as to post on the forum untill now. So I'm not completely of the noob calibur so to speak.
Lastly, my final question, would anyone be interested in deving up a 100% pure custom 4.3 rom that is completely Pokemon themed right down to the contacts and dialer. I will include more detail upon request, also one that isn't 10.1 based or cm in general. The reason I say non cm based is because volume+ sound boost breaks the speaker and crackles pretty badly, and i am partialy deaf so the apk is much needed. Any help would be be very appreciated and id be eternally greatful.
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This probably won't happen due to the fact the bootloader won't support ICS and even if you got it to the amount of edits you would have to do to a ICS kernel to try to get it to work with the 4.3 code would be a lot. It would be better to find new apps that you can use if possible. Or you could nexus s, an old galaxy nexus or maybe a galaxy s 2.
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This probably won't happen due to the fact the bootloader won't support ICS and even if you got it to the amount of edits you would have to do to a ICS kernel to try to get it to work with the 4.3 code would be a lot. It would be better to find new apps that you can use if possible. Or you could nexus s, an old galaxy nexus or maybe a galaxy s 2.
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I understand that entirely, I just have security concerns. Not sure if your familiar with the app called ultimate mobile armour, but that app was amazing, until it was pulled for reasons unknown. If there are apks greatly similar to ultimate mobile armour, please let me know. Any attempt to secure my device is greatly appreciated.
As for the above OP, would a 4.1Base ROM be possible of having the ICS kernel ported and coded/written or is this idea just a pipe dream? I'm up for any theories and ideas.
I do everything from my mobile as I do not own a computer...horrible I know.
Unfortunately no, since the note ii was released with 4.1.1 only that source code is available. UNLESS a developer starts from scratch. That's what I think, correct me if I'm wrong though
My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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well i would say the custom TouchWiz roms for your sprint one i don't know about the AT&T one though........
Anyone else?
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Anyone else?
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Use the at&t and sprint s3 android development forums.
Check the titles for TW VS aosp, os version, blah, blah.
Read the Ops for specifics.
I also look for roms with a lot of chatter in the thread, and roms that appear to be regularly updated.
The problem with ur question is that if u get 20 answers you'll get 17 different roms...
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g_money said:
Use the at&t and sprint s3 android development forums.
Check the titles for TW VS aosp, os version, blah, blah.
Read the Ops for specifics.
I also look for roms with a lot of chatter in the thread, and roms that appear to be regularly updated.
The problem with ur question is that if u get 20 answers you'll get 17 different roms...
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Thanks. I have been doing something like that. With respect to my Sprint (L710) variant I have installed and tested these four:
SlimKat (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400593)
modified Stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741413)
CM11 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030660)
Gummy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563973)
Do they represent a good cross section of available ROMs or am I missing a bunch of good ones? In particular, I disqualified the second option since several apps couldn't write to extsdcard even though I have installed and executed SDFix. SDFix is not required for the first option and it does everything I want. I also tried CM11, but it seems to have more bloatware than SlimKat and no obvious advantages. Gummy kept giving me FC's on various gapps apps. In summary SlimKat has floated to the top. My only complaint is that I had to tweak the dpi, but the texdroider app fixed that. What are some good options that I'm overlooking?
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Thanks. I have been doing something like that. With respect to my Sprint (L710) variant I have installed and tested these four:
SlimKat (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400593)
modified Stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741413)
CM11 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030660)
Gummy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2563973)
Do they represent a good cross section of available ROMs or am I missing a bunch of good ones? In particular, I disqualified the second option since several apps couldn't write to extsdcard even though I have installed and executed SDFix. SDFix is not required for the first option and it does everything I want. I also tried CM11, but it seems to have more bloatware than SlimKat and no obvious advantages. Gummy kept giving me FC's on various gapps apps. In summary SlimKat has floated to the top. My only complaint is that I had to tweak the dpi, but the texdroider app fixed that. What are some good options that I'm overlooking?
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on the TW side there is Wicked X 8.0/Barebones and Tribute rom and AOSP you can try CarbonRom or some of the newer roms like Broken OS, GrapheneROM a optimized CarbonRom, Spirit Rom, TMS3-Dark_Droid-3
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on the TW side there is Wicked X 8.0/Barebones and Tribute rom and AOSP you can try CarbonRom or some of the newer roms like Broken OS, GrapheneROM a optimized CarbonRom, Spirit Rom, TMS3-Dark_Droid-3
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Thanks. I'll check those out. I forgot to mention, but another criteria is that any candidate ROM must be available on both the Sprint and AT&T variant of the Galaxy S3. I've eliminated quite a few on that basis.
Update: Based on a bit of Googling it appears as follows:
Wicked X -> Sprint only
Tribute ROM -> Sprint only
Carbon ROM -> both Sprint and AT&T
Based on that I'll investigate Carbon ROM and if it seems appropriate, give it a try. I just checked out Carbon ROM for Sprint. It appears the forum petered out back in February and the download links are broken. Think I'll pass on that one. Also, I hesitate to try the newer ones you mentioned since my most important criteria is stability (ie, bug free). Thanks again.
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Based on that I'll investigate Carbon ROM and if it seems appropriate, give it a try. I just checked out Carbon ROM for Sprint. It appears the forum petered out back in February and the download links are broken. Think I'll pass on that one. Also, I hesitate to try the newer ones you mentioned since my most important criteria is stability (ie, bug free). Thanks again.
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Keep in mind there are quite a few ROMs (including Carbon) for our device, that are very active on Google+ and not here.
I would say broken os rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-sprint/development/4-4-4-brokenos-t2890496
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Keep in mind there are quite a few ROMs (including Carbon) for our device, that are very active on Google+ and not here.
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Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
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I would say broken os rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-sprint/development/4-4-4-brokenos-t2890496
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Thanks. I'm trying BrokenOS. So far it seems fine, but I haven't noticed many differences from SlimKat. Can you offer any pros or cons that would help me decide?
I do see that it offers both the Nova and Google Now launchers. Nova has an extensive settings page which includes a handy backup and restore feature. I can't find anything similar with Google Now? I can't even change the grid (icons per row and column). Am I missing something?
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Thanks. I'm trying BrokenOS. So far it seems fine, but I haven't noticed many differences from SlimKat. Can you offer any pros or cons that would help me decide?
I do see that it offers both the Nova and Google Now launchers. Nova has an extensive settings page which includes a handy backup and restore feature. I can't find anything similar with Google Now? I can't even change the grid (icons per row and column). Am I missing something?
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I'm pretty sure the base of the rom is based off of slim not sure though. Well broken os is very smooth and fast never had any force closes battery life is great on it.
For the Google launcher it doesn't have anything really you can customize. So no you aren't missing anything there. I would say to use nova.
CarbonRom is back up here is the link for the D2LTE which will work for both your S3's and here is the Change Log if you want to check it out.....
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I'm pretty sure the base of the rom is based off of slim not sure though. Well broken os is very smooth and fast never had any force closes battery life is great on it.
For the Google launcher it doesn't have anything really you can customize. So no you aren't missing anything there. I would say to use nova.
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Thanks. That helps.
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CarbonRom is back up here is the link for the D2LTE which will work for both your S3's and here is the Change Log if you want to check it out.....
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Thanks. I see your link if for Nightlies. As mentioned, my first criteria is stability so I'm probably not interested in them. Is there an operational site with a stable version?
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Thanks. I see your link if for Nightlies. As mentioned, my first criteria is stability so I'm probably not interested in them. Is there an operational site with a stable version?
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That's the official site.....the reason they are nightlies is because the developers add and remove features all the time it's in the channel log..but the basic functions of the phone always work.....so they are stable nightlies....
Thanks for all the feedback. I've tentatively selected SlimKat. It's the slimmest of all tested and seems fully functional. BrokenOS seemed nice as well, but it was slightly less slim, much less active development, and didn't offer any noticeable advantages. I'd still be interested in recommendations. As mentioned, a candidate must be available for both the Sprint and AT&T variant.
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That's the official site.....the reason they are nightlies is because the developers add and remove features all the time it's in the channel log..but the basic functions of the phone always work.....so they are stable nightlies....
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Thanks. I had some time this morning, so I installed the latest Carbon ROM nightly. Here are my comments so far based upon limited testing:
Closer to stock than SlimKat (eg, dpi, icon size, etc)
Google Now toolbar top of all home screens
Calendar not included in ROM nor gapps (so installed Google Calendar from Play Store)
Titanium Backup Pro complained about installed SuperSU (so flashed Update-SuperSU by Chainfire)
SuperSU app tends to hang (temporarily clear via reboot)
Several icons appear on Lock Screen (they seem to taken from notification screen)
Fully functional so far (with exception of SuperSU)
Less slim than SlimKat (Nandroid 951MB vs 783MB)
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My wife has the Galaxy S3 (AT&T) and I have the Galaxy S3 (Sprint). I've googled for best ROMs, but not everyone has the same criteria to judge 'best'. I'm looking for the best ROM with the following features (numbered most to least important) that supports both of our phones:
High Stability (bug-free)
Compact size (minimal bloatware)
Active development (support)
Good battery life
Good Performance
Recommendations would be much appreciated. Please specify why you recommend a particular ROM. Thanks in advance.
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You see...that is the problem...BEST can only ever be opinion...they are all the BEST for the people using them if you check the individual development threads.
Battery performance will vary from user to user....ROMs have little to no effect on battery performance...it is how you set up the kernel and your usage/preferences/signal and such that affect it..not the ROM.
You can only learn about stability by reading the development thread. There may be an app or dirty flash or lemon phone that makes something unstable for one person and not for the other 1000's of users of that ROM..and maybe that one guy comments here and not the other 1000.
Again performance is kernel related and the settings in the kernel....learn how to ajust your kernel settings mostly through trial and error.
Active development...you just need to check the first page of the development section...the ones on the top page with most replies are the most active.
So that leaves compact in size...search through them for the words debloated and look at the download size.
The rest will be mostly opinion and things you will need to learn by trial and error.
Googling for best ROMs will turn up garbage as again there is no baseline...did everyone start with a clean flash? Was the download good? Is there decision for BEST based on ludicrous items like color? Included launcher? You may as well be asking what's the best curtains to use in my living room? You will get everything from price, to color, to thermal blocking, to texture, to cleanability.....all relative to the person using them.
Hope this helps and explains why you will never find a useful best rom thread and kudos for actually listing some criteria.
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You see...that is the problem...BEST can only ever be opinion...they are all the BEST for the people using them if you check the individual development threads.
Battery performance will vary from user to user....ROMs have little to no effect on battery performance...it is how you set up the kernel and your usage/preferences/signal and such that affect it..not the ROM.
You can only learn about stability by reading the development thread. There may be an app or dirty flash or lemon phone that makes something unstable for one person and not for the other 1000's of users of that ROM..and maybe that one guy comments here and not the other 1000.
Again performance is kernel related and the settings in the kernel....learn how to ajust your kernel settings mostly through trial and error.
Active development...you just need to check the first page of the development section...the ones on the top page with most replies are the most active.
So that leaves compact in size...search through them for the words debloated and look at the download size.
The rest will be mostly opinion and things you will need to learn by trial and error.
Googling for best ROMs will turn up garbage as again there is no baseline...did everyone start with a clean flash? Was the download good? Is there decision for BEST based on ludicrous items like color? Included launcher? You may as well be asking what's the best curtains to use in my living room? You will get everything from price, to color, to thermal blocking, to texture, to cleanability.....all relative to the person using them.
Hope this helps and explains why you will never find a useful best rom thread and kudos for actually listing some criteria.
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Thanks. I understand what you are saying, however, I have found the comments to be useful especially in terms of narrowing down the number of candidates to evaluate. In the final analysis, I must do my own research. At the moment, my personal favorite is SlimKat and I use it as a baseline for comparing others.