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i am thinking about getting the touch pro2 but i am thinking how i could do this without data
so if i sign up for the phone and get the data and then 10 days later say the phone got stolen and put the sim card in a old motorola razr and tell them is this my replacement will that work? or are they going to still make pay for data service
i had att in the past and i was able to do that with them i don't know how understanding or lenient the tm csr's are.
if you tell them that it was stolen then they will block your imei. just call them and say you dont want the data plan. or get it for a short amount of time. then say that you have a different phone
Well you can buy the phone outright without a data plan but that could get expensive. I would just get it and then cancel the data plan later.
I went with Tmobile: 39.99 for 300 min + myfaves, 24.99 unlimited net + 400 msgs = I'm using Google Voice with this thing which brings me to unlimited mins/msgs if I ever go over. The internet plan is totally worth it. And it is the cheapest one out there.
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I went with Tmobile: 39.99 for 300 min + myfaves, 24.99 unlimited net + 400 msgs = I'm using Google Voice with this thing which brings me to unlimited mins/msgs if I ever go over. The internet plan is totally worth it. And it is the cheapest one out there.
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I thought the 24.99 plan no longer included msgs, was that grandfathered?
There is a unlimited msg + data for 34.99 together I know that but I never heard of the 24.99 internet coming with 400 messages. I guess it wouldn't matter for me because I use more then 400 messages a month.
there used to be a plan with messages but it was removed so u only have it if grandfathered in.
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there used to be a plan with messages but it was removed so u only have it if grandfathered in.
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they stopped that plan about 3 months ago
and to the OP, in regards of taking off the data plan later on, you cant do it. its a requirement in purchasing the phone and cannot be removed without an early termination fee. T-mobile can see what phone you are using, when was the last day you used it, and your IMEI, so reporting it stolen will not do you much good
??? you are getting an internet phone that costs $350 w/ a 2 year contract and can't afford $25 extra per month??? WHY bother? and please don't say to use the wifi, you can get a netbook for less and no contract. keep your razr.
25 dollars a month totals up to 1100 over the two year contract. MUCH more than the cost of the phone unlocked. And remember, some people DO have wifi most of the places that find themselves throughout their normal days. This means that should they happen to need 3G or EDGE or whatever cell connection is available to them, it behooves them more to pay the small fees for a momentary use than the monthly twenty-five dollars. Other people find themselves using internet wherever and whenever, thereby benefitting more from a data plan. But it's for different users and different routines/lifes. It is idiotic to judge someone just because they don't want to be forced into a data plan. Heck, there was an article in wmpowerusers or wmexperts from a guy who HAD a data plan, but HATED the fact that he was now obligated to get one. One of the points is why can't a user decide what is best for him or her? Why must they pay for things they might rarely or never use based on their personal habits? And if you HAVE to have that kind of plan, then why is the phone going for so much subsidized?
And as has been stated many times, the phone isn't just about internet, it will not magically stop working if you don't have internet access. It has MANY functions and I personally want it for the whole kitten caboodle (with the exception of 3G as it is currently not an option for me), not for just one function.
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??? you are getting an internet phone that costs $350 w/ a 2 year contract and can't afford $25 extra per month??? WHY bother? and please don't say to use the wifi, you can get a netbook for less and no contract. keep your razr.
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Ah yes, the voice of reason. Why would anyone not want a netbook that weighs ~2lbs, is approx 3-5x the size of the TP2, does not necessarily come with a touchscreen, for which they don't make a belt clip, but still has a resolution that isn't much better than a TP2, with even lower battery life (unless you separately order a nine cell battery that weighs almost as much as the netbook itself) and only slightly more portability than a regular laptop? I mean that's a perfectly reasonable TP2 alternative.
Does anyone actually remember when we used PDAs? Smartphones are not just internet phones. For those who use the internet on it, do you really need 24/7 uninterrupted access? If you do, can you even begin to imagine another consumer who might not have your exact needs/usage pattern, or for whom that kind of connectivity isn't worth an extra $300 a year (you can get the TMo version for ~$500 no commitment, meaning 2yr price only saves you $150 and extra data costs you an extra $600)? Can you imagine a consumer with more offline needs than online, one who is only out out of wifi range for minutes a day, and during those minutes, doesn't really care about data access?
Do what you need to do for yourself, but keep your self-righteous lectures to yourself when you don't have a fraking clue what you're talking about. Not everyone is exactly like you.
have you considered waiting til 9/3 for the release on sprint? much cheaper data plan, and im pretty sure the cdma phone has an audio jack, nice little bonus
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needless to say that you can get it for 199.99 with letstalk.com. and still have to have the same data plan as if you went with tmob directly.
so you save yourself the extra 150. which in 6months equals that same 150 for internet usage during your first 6months that is required to have until your obligation is over to have so you wont be penalized under letstalk.con restrictions. so you break out even. with the difference that you get the 6months of internet plan totaling the same if you paid their 350 price.
but i am hoping att will get it. waiting to see. in the meantime i will play with my new (older) BA and hopefuly the exec
by the time my contract is over and if att gets it i will stick with them for the reason of granfathered plans.
you could just buy it off craigslist for $350-$450, depending on your local market. no data required
Or you could just buy the phone at full price $550 which doesn't require Data.
i'm glad i got grandfathered in on my old 19.99 unlimited internet plan but alas no free mobile to mobile with my old myfaves plan
Newegg.com has the TMO TP2 for $199 w/ new 2 yr contract and does not appear to be requiring a data plan with the purchase.
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There is another solution, but only if you have a family plan.
1.) Buy the phone using promo code "Windows Mobile" through T-Mobile (found HERE)
2.) Add an additional line and get the TP2 for the discounted price
3.) Add the data plan to keep T-Mobile's panties unknotted
4.) Keep the phone for 3 weeks
5.) Call back after day 21 and tell them you do not want the line anymore.
6.) Pay the early termination fee ($200).
7.) Keep the TP2.
The phone itself normally costs $349.99 with a 2 year contract. With the promo code, you get it for $149.99 + $200 term fee = $349.99. Of course, the additional data plan will be prorated for those 21 days of "usage" which comes out to be around $17, but in the end you still have the phone and you can dump any T-Mobile SIM right in.
This is the BEST solution if you are one of the fortunate few who still have the T-zones service... which WILL do 3G! I've tested it on my friend's SIM card who still has T-Zones. I just hope he doesn't get any extra charges lol.
Does anyone know how this is going to work? I'm an old G1 user, and it's come to my attention that T-Mobile USA has discontinued those talk+text+web data plans for $25 (or $35 for unlimited text). From what I see now, in order to get talk, text, and web, we'll be forced to pay the $30 for the web and $10 for unlimited text, with no other options. If I'm currently on a G1 data plan, can I just switch the device and keep my current plan? I'm guessing the answer is probably not...but I was wondering if you guys knew anything different.
I go the $25 web+400 txt.
And when i got my family plan they said they couldnt change that because if they did i would have to pay more for the web so they left that part alone. But on the switching from g1 to g2 idk if they will try to force an upgraded data on the line or not. I know if they try to do that to me i will raise hell. And they dont even have a 400 txt plan no more its only 1000, 1500 and unlim..
On their website, all I see is the "upgraded" $30 unlimited web. The only option for text is also the $10 unlimited text. I also have the $25 unlimited web+400 texts, and would like to keep that if I can. $40 per month is way too much to pay for what I had before.
I would just swap out my sim when the g2 comes and keep an eye on your bill. if they give you some bs about chaing your data plan, then fuse at them. Tell them you been with them for a long time and you want the rate you been getting. Even tell them your go to a different company. They will more or less change it back if they even change it.
Also its better to do this kinda stuff over tmobile.com so you have a recorded of what they said.
You will most likely have to update to the new $30 web and separate $10 text. Some accounts are able to keep the old data plan ($25 or $35), but most of the time you will have to switch to the current data plan or the order will not process.
It is possible that you will be able to stay on the old plan from the G1, and your best bet is to go in to the store or call customer care to order.
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You will most likely have to update to the new $30 web and separate $10 text.
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:O sounds like their pricing might be getting closer to AT&T. though its still cheaper.
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You will most likely have to update to the new $30 web and separate $10 text. Some accounts are able to keep the old data plan ($25 or $35), but most of the time you will have to switch to the current data plan or the order will not process.
It is possible that you will be able to stay on the old plan from the G1, and your best bet is to go in to the store or call customer care to order.
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Ordered mines last night and didn't ask or tell me I would have to switch plans but we will see what happens when I get the phone and put in my g1 sim.
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I actually changed my minutes when I pre-ordered and they thought they might not be able to without changing my data plan, which they didn't have to do.
So, the regular one should be fine
I work at t mobile, if your getting an upgrade or buying outright your do not have to switch anything if your getting a whole new contract all together, then your forced to get the new rate plans
Indeed, as long as you're already on an Android plan, you won't be forced to the $30 plan.
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The store put me on Android Unlimited B2B for $19.99... They said it would work for all their Android phones and fulfill contract obligations, but had to call customer care and have it added.
Not sure what is so special about it, or who qualifies, but it might be an option. To me it still sucks. I had granfathered $5.99 T-Zones on the Nexus One.
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I work at t mobile, if your getting an upgrade or buying outright your do not have to switch anything if your getting a whole new contract all together, then your forced to get the new rate plans
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Thanks for the info. Now to "upgrade" and get a decent price (150-200), that requires signing a new 2 year contract. In this case, will I still be able to keep the current plan?
I know that if you have about six months of perfect on-time payments that that you can call loyalty and get a $20 per month unlimited data. Its called pref android unlimited web req. on my bill.
You will have to upgrade from $19.99 to $24.99 but don't let them give you the $30.00 plan. If they try threaten to leave. That's what I'm paying.
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There's a $20 android data plan? No fair. I had to upgrade my grandfathered $20 "Total Internet Plan" to the $25 loyalty android plan when I swapped out my old iPhone. I was told that was the cheapest 3G data plan now, even with grandfathered ones.
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There's a $20 android data plan? No fair. I had to upgrade my grandfathered $20 "Total Internet Plan" to the $25 loyalty android plan when I swapped out my old iPhone. I was told that was the cheapest 3G data plan now, even with grandfathered ones.
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A was I. Now I am considering calling them back.
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The store put me on Android Unlimited B2B for $19.99... They said it would work for all their Android phones and fulfill contract obligations, but had to call customer care and have it added.
Not sure what is so special about it, or who qualifies, but it might be an option. To me it still sucks. I had granfathered $5.99 T-Zones on the Nexus One.
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Me too. Tmobile actually removed the tzones plan from my line before I bought the phone and all that. Actually ordered it today but they removed it last night when I was just getting pricing info. Really pissed me off. I'm going to see I I can't finagle it back.
They told me the same thing but I called them a couple days ago and they gave it to me so... the $20 dollar data plan. But only on one of our phones (we have two lines). The other still is on the 24 dollar plan. Boo.
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There's a $20 android data plan? No fair. I had to upgrade my grandfathered $20 "Total Internet Plan" to the $25 loyalty android plan when I swapped out my old iPhone. I was told that was the cheapest 3G data plan now, even with grandfathered ones.
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I'm obviously no expert since I started this thread, but my guess is that the $20 dollar plan you're talking about does not include text (you'll have to pay $10 more for unlimited text, there is no other option). The $25 dollar android plan should include 400 texts, I'm assuming that's the old G1 data plan (which I currently have on my G1).
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I'm obviously no expert since I started this thread, but my guess is that the $20 dollar plan you're talking about does not include text (you'll have to pay $10 more for unlimited text, there is no other option). The $25 dollar android plan should include 400 texts, I'm assuming that's the old G1 data plan (which I currently have on my G1).
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I know for me, the 19.99 was unlimited internet and text. When I upgraded to more than one smartphone on my account, I paid the 19.99 for unlimited text for all the lines on my account.
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Hello, I'm going to have a T-mobile G2 soon that I'm going to use on T-mobile's prepaid monthly 4g plan. But I do have one question before I do it, and this might be a dumb question but do I technically have to carrier unlock the G2 to use it on prepaid versus contract?
nope...
Not to my knowledge and I used prepaid tmobile for years until last month they stoped doing prepaid and now am running regular contract...but no unlock needed for prepay as its already a tmobile phone..
No, there's no need to unlock for prepaid unless you're going to use a phone sold thru a different carrier. Like the Evo on T-Mobile, for instance.
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If you mean the simple plan it has a apn option built in. Just watch the data cap. Its like being crippled when it comes to data speed.
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Have you looked at theyre no contract plans? They are much cheaper then the contract plans. If you have been a customer for a while they are even cheaper! I have a family plan but if i were on it myself i think its only around 50 a month. Unlimited data and whatever minutes...i dont talk much
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I couldn't get them to give me a no contract plan (2 weeks ago), but I got unlimited everything for 50 a month. Saving me some big money right now compared to my old no contract plan (cause it only gave me 500 mins a month), and I kept going over talking with someone.
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I couldn't get them to give me a no contract plan (2 weeks ago), but I got unlimited everything for 50 a month. Saving me some big money right now compared to my old no contract plan (cause it only gave me 500 mins a month), and I kept going over talking with someone.
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For me, the main difference between prepaid (no contract) and contract is the discount on devices. I like to upgrade once a year, and with out my contract I wouldn't not qualify for a significant discount on a new device. So while non contract plans are cheaper, you do give up that annual discount on a new device. Basically, in the States, we're being ripped off no matter which way you look at it.
I also agree with the previous user who posted about watching you data consumption on prepay. A friend of mine was throttled to a point where his phone was almost unusable after using only 300 MB! (on a 50 USD Unlimited prepaid plan).
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Have you looked at theyre no contract plans? They are much cheaper then the contract plans. If you have been a customer for a while they are even cheaper! I have a family plan but if i were on it myself i think its only around 50 a month. Unlimited data and whatever minutes...i dont talk much
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That's what I'm doing, the monthly pre paid plans.
What I was asking is if I could take a G2 that's carrier locked to T-mobile to T-mobile prepaid without having to unlock it, basically if there was a difference in the phone seeing it as a supported carrier being locked.
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That's what I'm doing, the monthly pre paid plans.
What I was asking is if I could take a G2 that's carrier locked to T-mobile to T-mobile prepaid without having to unlock it, basically if there was a difference in the phone seeing it as a supported carrier being locked.
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You know T-Mobile carried the G2, right? There is no reason to carrier-unlock a phone for it to work on it's intended carrier's network -- regardless of whether you're on a contract or prepay. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding you... which is entirely possible as I am sleep-typing...
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That's what I'm doing, the monthly pre paid plans.
What I was asking is if I could take a G2 that's carrier locked to T-mobile to T-mobile prepaid without having to unlock it, basically if there was a difference in the phone seeing it as a supported carrier being locked.
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Just to reiterate what others have said, you're good dude. I just did the same thing, bought a used G2 off ebay and got the $30 100min, unlimited text/4G prepaid plan. No problemos. Just make sure you get a prepaid sim card, like this:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
(Tmobile has two separate sites for contract and prepaid, so as long as you go through above site, you're all good.)
P.S. If you buy your sim-card at a Tmobile store, they'll probably try to activate you there, but don't do it if you want that $30 plan mentioned above, which is only available online.
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Just to reiterate what others have said, you're good dude. I just did the same thing, bought a used G2 off ebay and got the $30 100min, unlimited text/4G prepaid plan. No problemos. Just make sure you get a prepaid sim card, like this:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
(Tmobile has two separate sites for contract and prepaid, so as long as you go through above site, you're all good.)
P.S. If you buy your sim-card at a Tmobile store, they'll probably try to activate you there, but don't do it if you want that $30 plan mentioned above, which is only available online.
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I wasn't aware of this... I have a friend (who I gave a store bought prepaid SIM card to) who is paying 50 USD a month and they keep throttling him at like 300 MB. I'm wondering if this plan you're talking about would have the same issue... also, if he wanted to switch to this plan, he'd have to purchase a new SIM card from the link you posted above, right? But then would he have to change his number, or could he transfer it to the new SIM? I've always been under contract, so I only know the basics when it comes to prepay...
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I wasn't aware of this... I have a friend (who I gave a store bought prepaid SIM card to) who is paying 50 USD a month and they keep throttling him at like 300 MB. I'm wondering if this plan you're talking about would have the same issue... also, if he wanted to switch to this plan, he'd have to purchase a new SIM card from the link you posted above, right? But then would he have to change his number, or could he transfer it to the new SIM? I've always been under contract, so I only know the basics when it comes to prepay...
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The prepaid plan I'm talking about is $30 a month for 100 minutes talk (.10 cents a minute if you go over, which is reasonable), unlimited texts, unlimited 4g web (speed is throttled when you pass 5gb in a month, but there are ways* around that, but still, that's MUCH better than 300mb) and it's only available online. So it does sound much better than what your friend has, specially if you get the GrooveIP app and use that to make calls through Google Voice over wifi/4g for free without using your minutes.
It's my understanding that they only let new accounts get this plan, so your friend would most likely need to get a new sim card AND either get a new number or port in a non-Tmobile number. (I ported in a landline number) You *might* be able to pull a fast one, and port the existing Tmobile number to Google Voice, then port it back to Tmobile under the new account, but I have no idea how doable that is.
As for porting in a number, since there was no option for it when activating the sim-card online, I completed the registration up to the point where they tell you your new number, but before I put any money in the account, I called Tmobile support line, and had them initiate the port. Once that was in motion, I funded the account.
* - Check out this thread for the unthrottle solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318460&page=2
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The prepaid plan I'm talking about is $30 a month for 100 minutes talk (.10 cents a minute if you go over, which is reasonable), unlimited texts, unlimited 4g web (speed is throttled when you pass 5gb in a month, but there are ways* around that, but still, that's MUCH better than 300mb) and it's only available online. So it does sound much better than what your friend has, specially if you get the GrooveIP app and use that to make calls through Google Voice over wifi/4g for free without using your minutes.
It's my understanding that they only let new accounts get this plan, so your friend would most likely need to get a new sim card AND either get a new number or port in a non-Tmobile number. (I ported in a landline number) You *might* be able to pull a fast one, and port the existing Tmobile number to Google Voice, then port it back to Tmobile under the new account, but I have no idea how doable that is.
As for porting in a number, since there was no option for it when activating the sim-card online, I completed the registration up to the point where they tell you your new number, but before I put any money in the account, I called Tmobile support line, and had them initiate the port. Once that was in motion, I funded the account.
* - Check out this thread for the unthrottle solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318460&page=2
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Thanks so much for all the info. I'll defintely pass this along to my friend.
As for the "unthrottle" method, I did read that thread a while back and explained the procedure to my friend, but he never got back to me about it... he was actually out of town at the time. And unfortunately that method doesn't work for everyone (or so I've read). He does use wifi at home, so this shouldn't be a problem too often. But, the plan you've described sounds 100% better than what he's working with... he's not a big talker either, so 100 minutes would likely suit him, especially with all the different ways to make voice calls these days. He could also probably port his landline number and get rid of it once and for all.
Thanks so much.
I just wanted to add that you can get no contract plans that are not prepaid. You do not get deals on phones but they do have an interest free loan option depending on vyour credit. I payed cash for my phone but the contract plan was a solid 50 dollars more a month and they would have approved me for an interest free phoneloan that would have cost 40 a month for what 10 months or so.... So either way it was cheaper monthly even if i got a new phone every year. However maybe my circumstances and unique? Either way i avoid term contracts at all costs! There is nothing like being able to call a company up and saying "hey fix X or i will cancel" you would be amazed at the deals you can get.
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Verizon Wireless’s Monthly Line Access Charge (MLAC). What is a MLAC? It’s a user fee for the privilege of using their network. Of all the pieces of the Share Everything puzzle, the MLAC is the part that really rubs me the wrong way. If the fee itself isn’t bad enough, the egregious amount they are charging, forty dollars per smartphone, is quite frankly, obnoxious. Because smartphone users will be the biggest piece of the data pie, Verizon Wireless believes they can rake those users over the coals. Once again, this fee is obnoxious. It really does shock me that Verizon would impose such egregious fee on their customers – it’s a real slap in the face to long time loyal customers.....saw this on rootz I just copy and pasted the last paragragh...will something like this let us get out of our contract assuming it happens?
Its not even a "possible", it is a "will be" when the shared data plans come into effect.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...g-proposal-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-r881
Original article if anyone cares.
No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
Wait, so all of a sudden if you're on this share everything plan, you get smacked with an additional $40? Good thing none of us are on it and will not be on it.
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Wait, so all of a sudden if you're on this share everything plan, you get smacked with an additional $40? Good thing none of us are on it and will not be on it.
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40 dollars per smartphone, 30 per feature phone. The 50+ on top of that is the actuall plan.
So...if you were on a shared plan with one smartphone and nothing else (why the hell would you do this), you would pay 90 bucks a month plus taxes and surcharges for unlimited voice, text, and 1gb of data. If on a feature phone, it would be 80 a month. It goes up from there.
Edit: Oh and the employee discounts? Only apply to the plan and not the device fees.
That shared plan is for the birds...keeping my unlimited data plan. Who still talks that much on phones these days anyway to need unlimited voice.
No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
OK so until we end our existing contract not much is gonna change then?I got in past the unlimited data so not to worried bout that right now....guess I should have posted the hole article sorry for any confusion guys..
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No, it won't get you out of your contract, because you would have signed a new contract under the new conditions.
OK so until we end our existing contract not much is gonna change then?I got in past the unlimited data so not to worried bout that right now....guess I should have posted the hole article sorry for any confusion guys..
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Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
OK thanks for the clarification, I was assuming that anyways but was thinking they may try to force it on us whenever they felt like it.I looked it up and the shared plan takes my bill to 220 or 240 with 10 gb shared..they are gonna make us go broke or go back to ****ter phones.
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Right. You are safe for your current contract period. IF additional charges are levied against current contracts, you can walk away with no ETF. If you renew before the end of this month (26, or 28th, I forget), you can get in on the old plans.
OK thanks for the clarification, I was assuming that anyways but was thinking they may try to force it on us whenever they felt like it.I looked it up and the shared plan takes my bill to 220 or 240 with 10 gb shared..they are gonna make us go broke or go back to ****ter phones.
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Indeed. There are only a few circumstances I see this being advantageous. I am definitely not one those circumstances.
Definitely gone from Verizon once my contract is up.
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That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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That's not what we are talking about,yours is 9.99 for add a line.what we are talking about has not started yet
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1) There is NOTHING to indicate that verizon will end or take away anyone's current unlimited data plan, if you want to continue with it, even beyond when your contract expires. Keep your current phone, keep your current contract, unlimited, forever. (or until they make further changes). Same phone, some contract, no change.
2) Want to keep your unlimited plan, AND get a new phone? Go ahead, buy a new phone, keep your unlimited plan. Forever. You just have to pay full price for that new phone.
So the only REAL change coming for current, unlimited data subscribers is they won't be able to keep their current plan AND get a new subsidized phone. They are not taking away your unlimited data plans, they are taking away subsidized future phones.
REMEMBER Verizon hasn't sold new unlimited data subscriptions for a year or so now, so for most new customers unlimited data isn't an issue.
Moving forward ......
3) For NEW customers, or old customers that don't have unlimited data, the new plans look like they will save a bunch of money for (a) families and (b) users with tablets. The new plan for a smartphone + tablet will likely be cheaper than a current smartphone plan PLUS a separate tablet data plan, and, the new plans will likely be much more convenient, you won't have to worry OK, I'm at 4.7 gigs on the tablet this month, better start using the 5 gb smartphone data allowance ...
4) Verizon is expensive. Yep. We got all kinds of threads touting the unlimited Straight Talk plans, or the $30 Tmo plan. LOTS of reasons knowledgeable folks are going for the prepaid plans these days, IF you're looking to get a new, cheap plan.
5) IF you have an unlimited plan, AND you use close to or more than 5gb of data, verizon today is the best deal going, and will continue to be the best deal going. I regularly get 20 MBS 4g lte on unlimited verizon. My neighbors unlimited DSL is 6 mbs. I don't have to pay for home internet ....
I'm not seeing any reason for current unlimited users to panic, for new users the new plans are an improvement over current family and multi line plans, and there are plenty of prepaid cheaper options, have been for months now, the new verizon plans don't make the prepaid look any MORE attractive.
EXAMPLE - Galaxy Nexus + xoom lte tablet
CURRENT
Tablet 3GB plan, $35
Smartphone - unlimited talk and txt = $90
Smartphone Unlimited data = $30
Smartphone Hotspot = $30
TOTAL = $185
NEW PLAN, 10 GB
unlimited 10 GB = $100
smartphone +$40
tablet +10
TOTAL = $150
SO which plan is better? 10 GB is a lot of use a month .... and a lot more for the tablet to use if the phone hotspot isn't around.
For some folks, the unlimited IS worth the extra $35 per month, no doubt, but, for many users, looks to me like the new plan might be better ....
SO, if you have no unlimited home internet, and need to make sure you can download the 40GB MOP expansion pack for World of Warcraft when it comes out, or, have no unlimited home internet to DL HD video with every night, by all means, keep your current unlimited verizon wirless plans.
At 20 mbs dl, popping over 30 mbs in the wee hours when downloading HD video, I'll likely keep my unlimited plan for many many more months.
HAVE FUN!
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nothing to see here, move along
1) There is NOTHING to indicate that verizon will end or take away anyone's current unlimited data plan, if you want to continue with it, even beyond when your contract expires. Keep your current phone, keep your current contract, unlimited, forever. (or until they make further changes). Same phone, some contract, no change.
2) Want to keep your unlimited plan, AND get a new phone? Go ahead, buy a new phone, keep your unlimited plan. Forever. You just have to pay full price for that new phone.
So the only REAL change coming for current, unlimited data subscribers is they won't be able to keep their current plan AND get a new subsidized phone. They are not taking away your unlimited data plans, they are taking away subsidized future phones.
REMEMBER Verizon hasn't sold new unlimited data subscriptions for a year or so now, so for most new customers unlimited data isn't an issue.
Moving forward ......
3) For NEW customers, or old customers that don't have unlimited data, the new plans look like they will save a bunch of money for (a) families and (b) users with tablets. The new plan for a smartphone + tablet will likely be cheaper than a current smartphone plan PLUS a separate tablet data plan, and, the new plans will likely be much more convenient, you won't have to worry OK, I'm at 4.7 gigs on the tablet this month, better start using the 5 gb smartphone data allowance ...
4) Verizon is expensive. Yep. We got all kinds of threads touting the unlimited Straight Talk plans, or the $30 Tmo plan. LOTS of reasons knowledgeable folks are going for the prepaid plans these days, IF you're looking to get a new, cheap plan.
5) IF you have an unlimited plan, AND you use close to or more than 5gb of data, verizon today is the best deal going, and will continue to be the best deal going. I regularly get 20 MBS 4g lte on unlimited verizon. My neighbors unlimited DSL is 6 mbs. I don't have to pay for home internet ....
I'm not seeing any reason for current unlimited users to panic, for new users the new plans are an improvement over current family and multi line plans, and there are plenty of prepaid cheaper options, have been for months now, the new verizon plans don't make the prepaid look any MORE attractive.
EXAMPLE - Galaxy Nexus + xoom lte tablet
CURRENT
Tablet 3GB plan, $35
Smartphone - unlimited talk and txt = $90
Smartphone Unlimited data = $30
Smartphone Hotspot = $30
TOTAL = $185
NEW PLAN, 10 GB
unlimited 10 GB = $100
smartphone +$40
tablet +10
TOTAL = $150
SO which plan is better? 10 GB is a lot of use a month .... and a lot more for the tablet to use if the phone hotspot isn't around.
For some folks, the unlimited IS worth the extra $35 per month, no doubt, but, for many users, looks to me like the new plan might be better ....
SO, if you have no unlimited home internet, and need to make sure you can download the 40GB MOP expansion pack for World of Warcraft when it comes out, or, have no unlimited home internet to DL HD video with every night, by all means, keep your current unlimited verizon wirless plans.
At 20 mbs dl, popping over 30 mbs in the wee hours when downloading HD video, I'll likely keep my unlimited plan for many many more months.
HAVE FUN!
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Tablets are an exception to these plans. The advantage quickly disappears when have multiple smartphone lines.
As for what I have highlighted...I promise you it will not last forever. I have been with Verizon since analog signal was all the rage. They don't roll like that.
Smokeey said:
That charge isn't new. The family plan I'm on now is $9.99 per line.
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9.99 per line ( I have five lines) is 49.95.
New device fees: 170.00. Three of my lines don't use or need data. Yet, I am being forced to pay 60 bucks extra on those 3 lines.
So currently between my wife, me, daughter, and two nieces, I pay about 235 bucks after surcharges and taxes for 1400 minutes, unlimited text and MMS. My wife has 4gb of data and I have unlimited.
With the new plans, I would pay 220.00 before surcharges and taxes for just 1gb shared. We would actually pay more than we do now once surcharges are applied. Surcharges for me are just shy of 30 dollars for 5 lines.
adrynalyne said:
Tablets are an exception to these plans. The advantage quickly disappears when have multiple smartphone lines.
As for what I have highlighted...I promise you it will not last forever. I have been with Verizon since analog signal was all the rage. They don't roll like that.
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LOL OK, I'll give you that I too, am expecting to get stabbed in the back by verizon and to have my currently unlimited, UNCAPPED superfast 4g to be taken away at some point. ATT was much more evil much sooner, they simply started capping "unlimited" plans at caps that were below what lower cap plans would cost, i.e. a $60 unlimited plan would get capped at 2 GB, but a new 3GB plan would cost $30.
SO FAR, verizon has been pretty good to me with unlimited data and fast speeds.
My big point was that these "NEW POOLED PLANS" aren't the end for current verizon unlimited customers. There is no sky falling for unlimited users, and for some customer the rates may go up, for other customers the rates may go down, there is no clear "we verizon are putting new screws on the customers".
For many many folks, the current prepaid plans are already the cheapest way to go, but for some folks, the new verizon plans make sense, especially for families that currently pay for multiple lines with their own (non unlimited) data caps on verizon.
It's really not THAT bad. Under the new plans, my current plan would be $10 less a month. If I added unlimited voice right now, it'd be roughly the same.
New Plan: $40 for the phone, $100 for 10 GB's x 20% discount = $112 + taxes.
This would give me unlimited data and WiFi Tether (useful if I was a fan of stock)
Current Plan: 900 minutes, unlimited text, 10GB x 20% discount = $110 with taxes.
Now, it sucks to be forced into unlimited voice. But the total bill isn't unreasonable. What's unreasonable is having the only voice/text plan offered be an all you can eat buffet. They're essentially raising the cost of data and making it palatable by charging a reasonable amount for voice and text.
All that said, I'm a HUGE proponent of not having a contract and being able to say, "See ya later". When I had my MiFi without a contract, I got GREAT customer service. I went ahead and signed a contract for my GNex only because I frankly need Verizon's network for work purposes so it's not like I can really go anywhere. And, compared to T-Mobile, which I totally dig, Verizon's network is far superior and I think they're entitled to charge a premium for that fact. The best way to avoid the new plans is to exercise a concept called "saving" and put back a few bucks every month to afford a non-subsidized phone the next time you want to upgrade. Considering I'm on Verizon and a Nexus freak, I don't imagine I'll be upgrading any time soon.
If I ever decided to get a tablet, and I doubt I would, being able to add one on for only $10 really is pretty freaking awesome. Right now, I wouldn't fathom it. Even if I wanted to blow several hundred on a iPad or a Xoom, it's a novelty that I'm not going to pay $600/year on for data access. But $10/month, well that's actually reasonable.
I'm all for blasting networks, but Verizon should get some props for certain aspects of this change in my opinion.
KWKSLVR said:
It's really not THAT bad. Under the new plans, my current plan would be $10 less a month. If I added unlimited voice right now, it'd be roughly the same.
New Plan: $40 for the phone, $100 for 10 GB's x 20% discount = $112 + taxes.
This would give me unlimited data and WiFi Tether (useful if I was a fan of stock)
Current Plan: 900 minutes, unlimited text, 10GB x 20% discount = $110 with taxes.
Now, it sucks to be forced into unlimited voice. But the total bill isn't unreasonable. What's unreasonable is having the only voice/text plan offered be an all you can eat buffet. They're essentially raising the cost of data and making it palatable by charging a reasonable amount for voice and text.
All that said, I'm a HUGE proponent of not having a contract and being able to say, "See ya later". When I had my MiFi without a contract, I got GREAT customer service. I went ahead and signed a contract for my GNex only because I frankly need Verizon's network for work purposes so it's not like I can really go anywhere. And, compared to T-Mobile, which I totally dig, Verizon's network is far superior and I think they're entitled to charge a premium for that fact. The best way to avoid the new plans is to exercise a concept called "saving" and put back a few bucks every month to afford a non-subsidized phone the next time you want to upgrade. Considering I'm on Verizon and a Nexus freak, I don't imagine I'll be upgrading any time soon.
If I ever decided to get a tablet, and I doubt I would, being able to add one on for only $10 really is pretty freaking awesome. Right now, I wouldn't fathom it. Even if I wanted to blow several hundred on a iPad or a Xoom, it's a novelty that I'm not going to pay $600/year on for data access. But $10/month, well that's actually reasonable.
I'm all for blasting networks, but Verizon should get some props for certain aspects of this change in my opinion.
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Not that bad? Maybe for you.
adrynalyne said:
9.99 per line ( I have five lines) is 49.95.
New device fees: 170.00. Three of my lines don't use or need data. Yet, I am being forced to pay 60 bucks extra on those 3 lines.
So currently between my wife, me, daughter, and two nieces, I pay about 235 bucks after surcharges and taxes for 1400 minutes, unlimited text and MMS. My wife has 4gb of data and I have unlimited.
With the new plans, I would pay 220.00 before surcharges and taxes for just 1gb shared. We would actually pay more than we do now once surcharges are applied. Surcharges for me are just shy of 30 dollars for 5 lines.
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Hey everyone,
Thought I will pass along some good news, maybe someone else can benefit as well. This is related to the post paid service with t-mobile. I am not sure if it is a great deal, but passing it along either way.
Background:
I had recently purchased a T-mobile prepaid sim card via Walmart. This has unlimited data (5Gb limit) and unlimited text and 100 mins talk time for $30/month. So you do have to recharge it for $30 min per month to keep the unlimited part. Benefit is I can make all the calls I want through grooveip or any other ip services which uses the data and not the minutes. I called the customer service to ask if they have the tmobile to tmobile free calls on the pre-paid plan. This was their general customer service line and I asked them to transfer me to the prepaid department. Before they transferred me over, they asked if its ok to check my account. Usually this is when they pitch additional data or services to sign you up for more, either way I was stuck in traffic and I thought why not. I am glad that I said yes now.
Free part:
The rep checked and said since I have been a loyal customer (this was his words, been with them for 9+ years now) I am eligible for some upgrades on my account (i have 5 lines, 1000 min, unlimited text and 3 lines with data). I had 5Gb with tethering on my line for $30, this was upgraded to 9Gb with 9Gb tethering for the same price. Another line had 2Gb for $10, this was upgraded to truly unlimited for the same price. The third line had 200Mb for $5, this was upgraded to 5Gb for the same price. I didn't ask him why mine was $30 and not less because I didn't want to sound greedy and also assumed it was because I have tethering. Either way, I am happy camper. This along with the free 1.2 Gb data for tablet that i recently signed up for makes me more than happy.
Try your luck folks. I believe this offer is tied to the loyalty program and their "bridge to value" plan deals. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
DesperateScorpion said:
Hey everyone,
Thought I will pass along some good news, maybe someone else can benefit as well. This is related to the post paid service with t-mobile. I am not sure if it is a great deal, but passing it along either way.
Background:
I had recently purchased a T-mobile prepaid sim card via Walmart. This has unlimited data (5Gb limit) and unlimited text and 100 mins talk time for $30/month. So you do have to recharge it for $30 min per month to keep the unlimited part. Benefit is I can make all the calls I want through grooveip or any other ip services which uses the data and not the minutes. I called the customer service to ask if they have the tmobile to tmobile free calls on the pre-paid plan. This was their general customer service line and I asked them to transfer me to the prepaid department. Before they transferred me over, they asked if its ok to check my account. Usually this is when they pitch additional data or services to sign you up for more, either way I was stuck in traffic and I thought why not. I am glad that I said yes now.
Free part:
The rep checked and said since I have been a loyal customer (this was his words, been with them for 9+ years now) I am eligible for some upgrades on my account (i have 5 lines, 1000 min, unlimited text and 3 lines with data). I had 5Gb with tethering on my line for $30, this was upgraded to 9Gb with 9Gb tethering for the same price. Another line had 2Gb for $10, this was upgraded to truly unlimited for the same price. The third line had 200Mb for $5, this was upgraded to 5Gb for the same price. I didn't ask him why mine was $30 and not less because I didn't want to sound greedy and also assumed it was because I have tethering. Either way, I am happy camper. This along with the free 1.2 Gb data for tablet that i recently signed up for makes me more than happy.
Try your luck folks. I believe this offer is tied to the loyalty program and their "bridge to value" plan deals. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I'm confused, why did you buy a prepaid sim if you have 5 lines and what does one account have to do with the other? The only plains offered now are Simple Choice plans so I'm thinking that's what you have now.
tony yayo said:
I'm confused, why did you buy a prepaid sim if you have 5 lines and what does one account have to do with the other? The only plains offered now are Simple Choice plans so I'm thinking that's what you have now.
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Yes, I can explain. Like I said before, I am not sure if this is a big deal. It was for me and I am hoping others who are in the same page like me can maybe call and get the benefits. It gave me more data for no additional money. I constantly see posts regarding mods for tethering and removing tethering cap etc., thought this way they can just get the feature with no additional money and avoid all the hassle with bypassing the system.
Tmobile does not allow more than 5 lines on one account like other providers. This prevents me from adding another line to my account and get all the grandfathered benefits I am getting. I am paying about $140 including tax with 5 lines and all the features mentioned earlier. The cheapest plan I could find under post-paid is their simple choice for $50+tax with 1Gb data. Data and text is more important for me as I am giving this to my family member who doesn't need a lot of talk time (yes, teen). To get a 5Gb data plan, Ill be paying $70+tax. Now you know why I got the pre-paid option from Walmart. This will give 5Gb data and unlimited text and 100 min talk for just $30, this is final amount which includes tax. Almost $40+ cheaper than the equivalent.
I got the benefits because my plan is grandfathered and not the simple choice. Those who are grandfathered and not willing to move are categorized as "bridge to value" plan. This way I get the benefits from both.
You basically used to have either the value family plan with 1000 mins, or Classic 1000 min plan and with those plans it makes it cheaper for you to do upgrades on an equipment installment plan (EIP) and used your savings in switching plans to upgrade your services good deal for you because you pay the same, and good for him because he just got commission on the change over. As far as the 1.2 GB of free data on your tablet its free until January 2nd of 2015, and after that it's $10 after your $10 discount for having a post paid line with T-Mobile. If you want to stay free after January 2nd you would want to switch to the free 200mb plan.
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thanks for the info
ihidbehindmusic said:
You basically used to have either the value family plan with 1000 mins, or Classic 1000 min plan and with those plans it makes it cheaper for you to do upgrades on an equipment installment plan (EIP) and used your savings in switching plans to upgrade your services good deal for you because you pay the same, and good for him because he just got commission on the change over. As far as the 1.2 GB of free data on your tablet its free until January 2nd of 2015, and after that it's $10 after your $10 discount for having a post paid line with T-Mobile. If you want to stay free after January 2nd you would want to switch to the free 200mb plan.
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Thanks for the info