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Programming ... Whats Best???

Hi!
I'm a Programmer for Visial Basic and Delphi...
I'm not sure whitch system is the best 4 programming the XDA?
AppForge or what?
Thanx
Stevie

Each have their advantages. I would go with Embedded C++ every time, but then, I'm that kind of guy. I like lean code.

On the other hand... If you don't want to learn C++, give Embedded VB a try.

Programming
Hi!
Thanx, but U mean Visual C++ 6.0 ??? Is there anything other what I need with C++ like Appforge 4 VB? Or do I need nothing more?
Stevie

No.. I mean Embedded C++. It is available for free from microsoft
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads...=/msdn-files/027/001/963/msdncompositedoc.xml

>I'm not sure whitch system is the best 4 programming the XDA?
>AppForge or what?
I guess it depends on your definition of "best".
I do C++, but actually prefer Visual Basic for most
applications due to the development speed for GUI-based
stuff.
I've downloaded eMbedded Visual Basic and eMbedded C++ from
Microsoft. One problem: EVB apparently does *not* yet
support the XDA architecture (StrongARM).
The SmartPhone SDK from MS *does* support StrongARM (not
*specifically the XDA* that I can tell) but only provides the SDK
for eMbedded C++ (not EVB).
I EMAILed the MobileVB folk and they said:
1) They don't support SmartPhones.
2) They don't have any support for SMS handling.
At this point I guess I'll go to EVC++ unless I can find other
tool(sets) to use.
What *I* would like to see is script support ALA PERL or PYTHON.
Is there anyone out there that knows of a beastie like this?
Or, even better (for me) would be LINUX on the XDA (I've
been using Familiar distro on the iPAQ, and it is great .. can
do GPRS/GPS from a LINUX-based platform (C/C++/JAVA/PERL/PYTHON/whatever).
Charlie

You keep mentioning Smartphone here, and the Smartphone SDK. The XDA does not support the Smartphone SDK, as it is not a Smartphone - it runs Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition - something completely different.
So please, don't spend several hours downloading the Smartphone SDK to find it's not the right one. Download the Pocket PC 2002 SDK. I have developed several apps for the XDA using this already.

What *I* would like to see is script support ALA PERL or PYTHON.
Is there anyone out there that knows of a beastie like this?
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There is a PocketPC Python, you have to use the win32api to GUI work, and installation can be a little painful depending on what you need. It does run and is stable though. Check out http://www.murkworks.com/Research/Python/PythonCE/PythonCEWiki/FrontPage[/quote]

Hi guys
I downloaded eMbedded Visual Tools 3.0 from Microsoft, but during installation, I was asked for the Product ID #
Any help ? :?:

I'd like to throw in another suggestion: the .Net Compact Framework. If you're a Delphi programmer (as are we - I used to be on TeamB for Delphi), you'll take to it straight away. After all, .Net and C# was designed by the same Anders Hejlsberg that designed Delphi. C# is very like Object Pascal with a C/Java syntax, but with even more goodies.
We've been using the Compact Framework beta for several months and it is quite simply superb. It was just launched officially on April 26th as part of Visual Studio.Net 2003. However, you don't need to buy Visual Studio - just download the .Net 1.1 SDK from Microsoft - it's free.
It's just a subset of the full .Net Framework, but if you need to do something that's not supported directly in the Framework classes, you can easily call API functions - or even write some code in embedded VC++ and call that. The managed environment is just great.
MikeS.

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Khang Le
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Khang Le, thanks

Newbee on development -Basic things needed

Hi,
I'm interested very much in learning programming on smart phones especially for windows mobile OS.
Now can you experts suggest me
1.A versatile simple yet powerful language where I can learn application programming for windows mobile.
2.Needed compilers and assorted items for a starter..Needless to say my first aim is learn the basics by developing a hello world and calculator program which can add subtract on a windows mobile. Easily said
3..My current skill level- Iam in to Mainframe application development(full time),and due to my own interest started learning python.I do know C and did some assembly for basic micro controllers (during college days).
Now with these can you experts show me the path ?
-Neo

helllo,
honestly the best compiler to use is Visual Studio 2008. It gives you all the tools you need to make a windows mobile application.
I personally believe that the easiest and most functional language for windows mobile is C#, but visual studio gives you the tools to develop in C#,C++, Visual Basic, and more.k
I hope i helped...
If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask.

Which is supported, C# or C++?

Does Windows Mobile support coding in C# or C++, and if both, then which should I use? I'm asking this because I'm currently trying to learn computer programming, and I would like to eventually develop for Windows Mobile, but I'm not sure which programming language it supports. I've heard people say C++ and C#, and I'm confused.
Thanks

In theory you could do either one. Here are some links to get you started.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsmobile/bb264328.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsmobile/default.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsmobile/bb264330.aspx
The last one has some starter kits for both C++ and C#.

Thanks for the help!

C# is a managed environment of course, so it requires the .net compact framework to run. This can lead to issues if the framework you develop for is newer than that which is installed on the device. However, managed code is much easier to write than native code. There is no managed version of C++ tmk.

Sleuth255 said:
C# is a managed environment of course, so it requires the .net compact framework to run. This can lead to issues if the framework you develop for is newer than that which is installed on the device. However, managed code is much easier to write than native code. There is no managed version of C++ tmk.
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Quite true. Obviously you can write apps with either - but if it was up to me I would probably pick C# and use the latest .net compact framework avail at the time.

If you have knowledge of C++, it's much more powerful, and lots of win32 is the same on Windows Mobile. C# is simpler to do basic user interfaces, but the .Net overheads are far more significant on mobile devices than on desktops.

l3v5y said:
If you have knowledge of C++, it's much more powerful, and lots of win32 is the same on Windows Mobile. C# is simpler to do basic user interfaces, but the .Net overheads are far more significant on mobile devices than on desktops.
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amen to that.

Hacking and development

I've been out of the loop a long time as far as programming goes. Whats the best place to start because when I get my Win7 phone later this year i want to be able to build and modify programs for it. As well as modify the OS as well.
Thanks.

For developing apps: http://developer.windowsphone.com/windows-phone-7/
As for hacking, we'll most likely have to wait for proper devices first...

What programming language is Win7 Mobile being built in?

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What programming language is Win7 Mobile being built in?
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There's silverlight and XNA. Silverlight is being recommended for applications and 2d games while XNA is being recommended for heavier 3d games.
Silverlight isn't bad. It's just c# and xaml. The free tools provided are great. You can get VS2010, XNA Game Studio, and Blend. The advantage to Blend is that it lets you design your silverlight interfaces and animations in a simple GUI instead of having to code it.

port CodeLite to rt 8.0

Can anyone port CodeLite to windows rt? It is an open source c++ ide and the URL for the source code is
HTML:
https://github.com/eranif/codelite
.

This software uses MinGW to build rather than Visual Studio, so there would be a really tremendous amount of work just to create a VS solution.