This is my CDMA stats when holding my phone (both hands gripping the bottom half of the device.)
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Then this is the CDMA screen cap when I move my hands away. (Pretty much laid the phone down.)
I don't know about you guys but -92dBm to -70dBm is a huge jump and this all happened within seconds of each other. Same spot in the house. Anyone else having this problem or is it just me?
On Liquid smooth BTW. Not sure if that matters.
Seems the modem/antenna are located at the bottom because I notice it gets hot at the bottom with moderate use.
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Seems the modem/antenna are located at the bottom because I notice it gets hot at the bottom with moderate use.
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There are antennas in both the bottom and top corners, three total - LTE Tx, LTE Tx/Rx+EVDO, and 1x. You can check FCC schematics. They show a diagram with all the antenna locations.
Then why when holding the phone at the bottom the signal does in fact weaken. And if not using Wi-Fi it get hot after some tike of using 3G? Don't have lte where I am at yet.
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I just tried doing this myself and the whole time it was between 72 and 78. No matter how I held it.
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Then why when holding the phone at the bottom the signal does in fact weaken. And if not using Wi-Fi it get hot after some tike of using 3G? Don't have lte where I am at yet.
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It depends on which antenna was in use. At least one of them is on the bottom, so if that's the antenna you were using at the time, then your hand would be blocking and weakening the signal.
Are you asking if the phone gets hotter using 3G than WiFi? I personally don't use my home WiFi with my S3, so I have no point of comparison. For my S3 to start getting warm just because of 3G, I have to use the data continuously for around a half hour (maybe 15 minutes, maybe an hour; it's an abnormally long amount of time to continuously use a data connection on a phone). However, I mostly use 4G, and I still don't have overheating issues.
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It depends on which antenna was in use. At least one of them is on the bottom, so if that's the antenna you were using at the time, then your hand would be blocking and weakening the signal.
Are you asking if the phone gets hotter using 3G than WiFi? I personally don't use my home WiFi with my S3, so I have no point of comparison. For my S3 to start getting warm just because of 3G, I have to use the data continuously for around a half hour (maybe 15 minutes, maybe an hour; it's an abnormally long amount of time to continuously use a data connection on a phone). However, I mostly use 4G, and I still don't have overheating issues.
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3G makes mine the hottest (out of all the data types).
Aaron Swartz, Rest in Pixels.
SGS 3, no troubles on GSM & wifi. 3G makes it hot. On CDMA i have less troubles (difference only in 5 positions). Seems it depends on device.
According to this image I found on S4GRU.com, the PCS and 3G antennas are at the bottom of the phone. That's pretty common with phones now because it places the antennas farther from your brain, reducing the absorption levels.
If you cup your hands around the antenna of any phone you will reduce the signal. This is a bit different than the issues that the iPh*ne had which actually used the trim of the phone as antennas. In that case, just touching the case in the wrong place caused a signal drop.
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According to this image I found on S4GRU.com, the PCS and 3G antennas are at the bottom of the phone. That's pretty common with phones now because it places the antennas farther from your brain, reducing the absorption levels.
If you cup your hands around the antenna of any phone you will reduce the signal. This is a bit different than the issues that the iPh*ne had which actually used the trim of the phone as antennas. In that case, just touching the case in the wrong place caused a signal drop.
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Very true. And explains why the bottom gets hot with 3g usage.
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yeah that image does. I thought o was the only one that would notice the phone heat up when on 3G
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
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yeah that image does. I thought o was the only one that would notice the phone heat up when on 3G
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I tool my S3 in and the guy said mine got borderline destructive hot, and got mine replaced. Now on 3G it doesn't get hot. Kinda weird. But it would burn up with no network on and playing bike race. Mine, sitting doing absolutely nothing with 3G on, would burn up though.. that's why he replaced it, that and it froze every 3 minutes.
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I too notice a slight warm up when using 3G. Its noticeable but doesn't get really hot. Definitely will keep a eye on it to make sure it doesn't get too hot
Is a lower or higher dbm better?
Higher is better. -80 dBm is better than -100dBm.
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Seems the modem/antenna are located at the bottom because I notice it gets hot at the bottom with moderate use.
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I'm glad I know why I burn my hands playing games, :laugh:
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Anyone else notice a much worse signal on the GNex than other VZW phones in the same location. I swapped from a GSM Gnex and i gotta say, im not impressed.
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Anyone else notice a much worse signal on the GNex than other VZW phones in the same location. I swapped from a GSM Gnex and i gotta say, im not impressed.
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From what people have said of Samsung, they have bad CDMA radios in general while Moto has the best.
Ya I keep getting random 4g drops in my house, I usually fluctuate between 2 bars of 4g and 2 bars of 3g...
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I am. Compared to the Rezound I had for a couple weeks the dBm is -100 to -140 where the Rezound was -80.
Last night it kept dropping to 3G and would not get 4G back unless I rebooted.
Speedtest was about half what it normally was with the Rezound on 4G
This morning the -dBm is over -100 but the speedtest is about to where it was normally so I don't know.
I travel for work so I'm going to give it week and see how to behaves as I move around.
I really like this phone but I need it to be a phone first and if it drops calls or the 4G is this bad it's going to be a deal breaker.
I just did another speed test at -108 dBm and it's over 20MB down. I was getting 4MB down last night and the signal was all ranging all over the place while I was staying in the same spot.
I have to imagine the VZW network was getting pounded pretty hard last night with new adopters and phones being activated. I'd say give it a few days and check back into it
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Bad signal but still getting good speeds....
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I am experiencing this also coming from a Thunderbolt. Granted the Thunderbolt had flashed radio/Kernal/Rom's. Would that even matter? In this case will an updated radio provide a stronger signal or just increased reliability from being dropped? Maybe both? Idk. Anyone?
These are all in the exact same spot ranging from -100 to -140dBm
Glad I'm not the only one! The Rezound had way better connectivity and reception! Samsung sux in this dept. Ima give it a few days. Off topic here but where's the smart dialing?? I can't believe it didnt make it to ics!! Heh.
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I honestly think the phone is just reading your signal wrong. TBolt had this issue also and a modem fixed it somewhat.
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I honestly think the phone is just reading your signal wrong. TBolt had this issue also and a modem fixed it somewhat.
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I drop signal at random though.
Would that cause it to drop down to 3G?
I have same signal i used to have on my rezound, i still get almost same speeds around 28 up and 18-20 down here in Minneapolis. rezound used to get 32 down and around 20 up, but i am thinking since verizon network was pounded yesterday so there will be some impact on speeds
Whatever new phone that comes out, you can always count on a bad signal thread.
I haven't noticed a difference in signal, but I do think it has better sound quality than my Droid Incredible.
Edit: I just did a speed test (3g) and it was very choppy and not great. I live across the street from a cell tower, so that is not good.
The Moto RAZR I returned yesterday to get this Samsung had much better reception.
I should have remembered that the Koreans can't engineer a good antenna. I'm very unhappy right now.
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Would that cause it to drop down to 3G?
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Yeah, ill be sitting with 2 bars of 4g...then randomly goto 2 bars of 3g...cant get 4g back without cycling airplane mode.
shizat63 said:
The Moto RAZR I returned yesterday to get this Samsung had much better reception.
I should have remembered that the Koreans can't engineer a good antenna. I'm very unhappy right now.
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The GSM model holds signal great...had hspa+ all the time.
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Yeah, ill be sitting with 2 bars of 4g...then randomly goto 2 bars of 3g...cant get 4g back without cycling airplane mode.
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I get that same issue, maybe THIS is why VZW delayed it?
:O
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The GSM model holds signal great...had hspa+ all the time.
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i beg to differ
Maybe your coverage area? I am in Tampa...in a building, in my office, i get 5-6 megs down and 2-3 up...with my LTE GNex, i cant even hold a 4g signal, and when i do its 5 megs each way. Nothing earth shattering....but on top of it, that drops to 3g and stays there. The GSM, always had a connection.
I've noticed on my s3 when I hold the phone the db signal goes up by a lot and eventually 4g goes to edge. The db goes up as well on edge. In particular when holding it with my left hand and my palm is covering majoring of the bottom left of the phone. If I put the phone down the db starts decreasing and eventually it goes back to 4g. Is this normal for T-Mobile devices? This only seems to happen where you have low signal already like indoors. Dbm between 99-105.
You can test db signal in settings > about device > status > signal strength. Lower the db the better.
Here is a video of me just flipping the phone upside down to get 4g back. I even tried leaving it in either position for a while just to show you that it doesnt change till after I flip it over either directions. DBM will usually spike up between 10-20 dbm when I hold the phone the way I'm holding it and if you reach about 111-113 then it will switch over. 20 dbm seems a lot of signal to lose but I'm not sure if that range is normal for all gsm phones. Either way, it sucks that this is happening so I have to make sure I hold the phone with either my right hand or hold it by the top half only.
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Yeah you right about that ,I noticed too I wonder if a case can help,mine is naked so I haven't try
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You're holding it wrong.
Edit: my phone does not have this issue. I had 73 dBm 17 asu the entire time, whether I held the phone (tried different ways of holding it as well) or not.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
I have a thin case and it doesn't help much. Maybe a thicker one but I don't really wanna use one of those. I'm uploading a video about this issue in a bit.
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Ugh. These threads make me want to vomit.
NORMAL
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Every phone has this problem...its not that big of a deal. Just enjoy the phone.
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Every phone has this problem...its not that big of a deal. Just enjoy the phone.
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That's why I asked if this was a normal. I was previously with sprint and my wimax never went down to 3g while holding the phone.
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Ugh. These threads make me want to vomit.
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If this is normal for T-Mobile then it sucks for me then. I just switched to them a couple of days ago. Edge is really slow for me. Speedtest shows avg 14kbps dl speeds. For those that have migrated like me I think this is useful information.
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Babydoll25 said:
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: my phone does not have this issue. I had 73 dBm 17 asu the entire time, whether I held the phone (tried different ways of holding it as well) or not.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
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Lol you know if I hold the phone just by the speaker the db won't change much. So I think I am holding it wrong. But you seem to have great signal which I wish I had.
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Every phone has this problem...its not that big of a deal. Just enjoy the phone.
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Is this true for cdma as well? Never had my sprint wimax go to 3g just by holding it. The big deal for me is it goes to edge which is painstakingly slow. I signed up for 5gb plan so was hoping to utilize it.
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The antenna runs down the left side, from top to bottom. I'd imagine covering it with your hand would effect signal to some extent. Any phone that has an antenna placed along the side or bottom you'll most likely notice this with,I think that's one of the reasons MOTO packed all their crap in the top and gave it a hump.
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All phones suffer from this to some extent.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Deat...lphones-cases-do-not-help-much-either_id17155
Yes all phones do but the GS3 on tmibile suffers much then the rest I guess cause of there network structure ,having said that no problems with me ,bars go down but only if I hold the phone in a tight grip seems to have problems (which I don't hold it like that)
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So it looks like holding the phone with my right hand the db signal barely changes and if it does it not drastic as if I held it with the left hand. It also would stay on 4g. If I open the back I noticed there's a W1 and W2 on the bottom left (phone facing me) so this is the area where my palm rest when I hold it with my left hand. I have a thin .07mm case but it still doesnt help. For now I guess I can hold it with my right hand but that's really stupid that I have to hold it a certain way but I dont have a choice at this time. Maybe a thicker case might help. Any other suggestion?
I can't believe I'm resorting to this but its working for the most part. DB signal staying within 105-111 and not going to Edge.
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here's my test after putting tape in the back. Refer to OP if you want to see my test prior to the tape
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what exactly does the tape do? that's a bid strange to me.
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what exactly does the tape do? that's a bid strange to me.
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I agree it is a bit silly but I was trying to create more barrier between my Palm and that particular area of the phone to reduce signal degradation while holding the phone with my left hand. Compared to holding it with my right where there is less contact in that area which increases my 4g signal acquisition.
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When I wake mine up, half the time I'll go to browser /speed test/ xda and my signal bar will go completely empty and slowly begin to recover... speed test will have anywhere from 200-1400 ms ping time...or browser or any other internet application will not load for 5- 10 seconds....it's like the internet needs to slowly wake up all the time. Anyone else???
T-Mobile 4g...Wi-Fi works most of the time...sometimes have to disable and enable to get web back....
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When I wake mine up, half the time I'll go to browser /speed test/ xda and my signal bar will go completely empty and slowly begin to recover... speed test will have anywhere from 200-1400 ms ping time...or browser or any other internet application will not load for 5- 10 seconds....it's like the internet needs to slowly wake up all the time. Anyone else???
T-Mobile 4g...Wi-Fi works most of the time...sometimes have to disable and enable to get web back....
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Agree on the Web when switching from wi-fi to mobile data.
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4G JUST became avail in my area in Brooksville FL!!
However I have to go outside to get signal! is there ANY way I can boost the signal? This is my only hope of fast internet at home.....
I'm on JB Liquid rom with I515.10.V.FF02 / I515.FG02 Radios
I'd appreciate any info!
Dragonsla said:
4G JUST became avail in my area in Brooksville FL!!
However I have to go outside to get signal! is there ANY way I can boost the signal? This is my only hope of fast internet at home.....
I'm on JB Liquid rom with I515.10.V.FR02 / I515.FG02 Radios
I'd appreciate any info!
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http://www.repeaterstore.com/4g/products/repeaters/cellphone-mate-verizon-4g-lte-cm700v.php
or something similar, can contact verizon and see what they recommend
Man I wish my city had 4G.. there's an Osprey nest in the tower, migrates sometime in November or December.
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Woah thanks....I really hope better radios come out so I don't have to shell out the $$ calling verizon tomorrow
http://www.accessorygeeks.com/antenna-booster-sticker.html
$3.99 Just sayin'.
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http://www.accessorygeeks.com/antenna-booster-sticker.html
$3.99 Just sayin'.
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LOL i remember those! funny as hell how many people got suckered into that lol
Also radios can only do so much, the absence of signal is always going to be just that. You need to retransmit, no piece of shielding on your phone will change that, that is just a fancy sticker that will if anything lower your signal because it is now blocking it, and without connecting to the radio itself it cant do anythign.
I think it may be a hardware or software defect, because the area is CLEARLY covered by VZ 4G and even outside I can not get signal, I have to walk at least 100'.....flashing stock then calling VZ.....
Wonder if this would help at all, looks like a hoax.....
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I think it may be a hardware or software defect, because the area is CLEARLY covered by VZ 4G and even outside I can not get signal, I have to walk at least 100'.....flashing stock then calling VZ.....
Wonder if this would help at all, looks like a hoax.....
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Does this hook up to the antenna port in the back? Giving the antenna a ground plane like the roof of the car should improve reception. It's too bad the back has to come off to hook it up... then again a drill could easily fix that.
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Edit: looks like those antenna ports in the back may be fragile. be careful.
Indeed. As per a thread from September, break one of those antenna ports and you won't get signal, GalNex won't revert to internal antennas. Supposedly, just relaying what I heard.
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Are you sure you don't live in a giant Faraday cage?
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3. It is COMPLETELY WIRELESS! No cables to attach it to your Cell Phone and all Cell Phones in the vicinity will benefit
so no.
It doesn't seem line this would work.....no wires, no power source.....
And no I do live on a 5 acre lot with a good amount of trees....even out in the open 4G signal is very difficult to find. Maybe its a bad LTE chip
EDIT: Called up verizon and they said I was in an extended area and the tower 0.3 miles from me is 3G and thats why my phone isn't connecting to the 4G tower.... :[ wonder if I can force connect to a certain tower...
*#*#4636#*#* set to LTE only...
But Verizon does that, my city is a 4G city on their website, however as per the map, 0% of city limits is covered with even extended 4G.
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Yes, but the thing is, according to their map, I AM IN THE AREA! and less than 450 feet from FULL coverage!
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Even when I walk down to the coverage area its hard to get a signal
Coverage map has not changed one bit but as of December 27th 2012 I have had amazing 4G in my house!! Therefor this thread is no longer really valid. However it makes you wonder why...
Has anyone noticed how bad the Wifi is with G3? Note note 3 was much better.
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Wifi on mine is perfect. I just did a speedtest to post a screenshot. I like my G3 however im a huge fan of samsung. I bought this phone cause my note 3 went for a ride in the washer. I was wearing baggy cargo shorts and forgot it was in the side pocket. Still sold it for 150 even though it wouldn't turn on. The Amazon buyer was aware of what happened. I have no complaints with my G3. Still getting the Note 4 though.
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I'm getting a much stronger signal at home compared to my N5. Speed even at the edges of my coverage are noticeably faster. Biggest improvement is in the 5 ghz range.
That's not what I meant. I am more talking about how far I am away from the signal. I could get further away with the note 3 than with the g3 from my wifi router.
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That's not what I meant. I am more talking about how far I am away from the signal. I could get further away with the note 3 than with the g3 from my wifi router.
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I got the same problem at work wifi sucks s5 was way better.At home I have no problems cause im closer to signal but in job cuts off and on and wifi calling logs off 4g lte works better than my s5 but wifi definately got a ranfe problem.I went to store check out other lg g3 make sure I dont have a defective unit but its the same I hope a new modem can fix this.
Any news on a new radio. Reception sucks on my g3
Modem will not fix this. Phone suffers from death grip. Nothing can be done.
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Wow. I thought the radio was good on this phone. Much better than my nexus 5 was. Maybe you have a bum phone?
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Never mind, you've checked. Still, I guess I don't know what I'm missing then as this phone has been the best I've had so far.
My data speeds on Wi-Fi are just as good as my note 3.
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I was at home the other night and did a speed test and it was about half as slow as my Nexus 5 usually was on WiFi. That may have been due to the number of devices connected at that time.
How is everyone's LTE speeds compared to past phones? I feel like this is a lot slower than my Nexus 5. I was getting ~25mbps at home with my Nexus 5, but was barely pushing ~6 last time I tested. Maybe I was having a bad day with T-Mobile.
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Modem will not fix this. Phone suffers from death grip. Nothing can be done.
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Death grip? I dont understarnd
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Death grip? I dont understarnd
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T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) Two Handed De…: http://youtu.be/j7WK45b5rIg
Similar. Hold top of phone and ur dead
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I was at home the other night and did a speed test and it was about half as slow as my Nexus 5 usually was on WiFi. That may have been due to the number of devices connected at that time.
How is everyone's LTE speeds compared to past phones? I feel like this is a lot slower than my Nexus 5. I was getting ~25mbps at home with my Nexus 5, but was barely pushing ~6 last time I tested. Maybe I was having a bad day with T-Mobile.
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For me, speed is about the same (full internet speed) as my N5 but the Wifi range is better, especially on the 5 GHZ band. Problem is the range sucks for 5 GHZ on any device so I usually leave it on 2.4. On LTE, I regularly get 30-40 Mbps.
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For me, speed is about the same (full internet speed) as my N5 but the Wifi range is better, especially on the 5 GHZ band. Problem is the range sucks for 5 GHZ on any device so I usually leave it on 2.4. On LTE, I regularly get 30-40 Mbps.
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Yeah mine does that. I loose one bar ever time I do it.
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Has anyone noticed how bad the Wifi is with G3? Note note 3 was much better.
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Yep wifi sucks if u not close by within 3 rooms u lose signal and its weak .In my house its good cause im within e rooms at work multiple ssids and keeps switching loosing signal my note e and s5 never lost reception and worked faryher.Also have app that measurs mbps s5 is 866mbps at home lgg3 is 435mbps so its definitely weaker or lower quality than samsungs
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I was at home the other night and did a speed test and it was about half as slow as my Nexus 5 usually was on WiFi. That may have been due to the number of devices connected at that time.
How is everyone's LTE speeds compared to past phones? I feel like this is a lot slower than my Nexus 5. I was getting ~25mbps at home with my Nexus 5, but was barely pushing ~6 last time I tested. Maybe I was having a bad day with T-Mobile.
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My LTE has more availability on this phone than my S4. I usually have 10-15 down, I've seen 60+ in a few areas on this phone that I've never seen on the S4.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/19/verizon-5g-new-york-city-september-26/
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Show off for UN convention, which just happens to be this coming week in Manhattan?
Has anyone tried it where there is 5G? Can they post a screen shot of SpeedTest screen while connected with a strong signal?
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Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...
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KruseLudsMobile said:
Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...View attachment 4831409View attachment 4831411
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Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.
chetly968 said:
Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.
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Consistent speed definitely not there even though the signal is very strong. The problem is that anything almost can block the signal and they are going to have to have antennas all over the place (and very close together) to cover all locations. Buying a phone with 5G is not a waste now, frequencies to be used will not change (why would they change after the phones are already sold and they're starting to roll out the antennas and they're already set up in various cities, that's a ridiculous assumption), people on this forum already told me it'll take years do even get the test, and here I am already testing it. The newer version of the antenna and receiver is not some experimental thing that will have to be changed; and in Chicago people already got wireless speeds over 1GB.
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Frequencies will not change but better directional technology will develop that current phones will NOT be able to take advantage of. And frequencies will be added as they expand range. Again, current phones will not be able to take advantage of any of that.
At the moment, 5G NR supports 2x2 MIMO and 64 QAM, or two layers and six bits per symbol. But the technology supports 4x4 MIMO on handsets and even massive MIMO at the base station level, as well as more efficient types of coding. We just have to wait for devices and capabilities to evolve.
So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.
chetly968 said:
So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.
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LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries!
HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough.
Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while.
cpufrost said:
LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries!
HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough.
Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while.
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Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?
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KruseLudsMobile said:
Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?View attachment 4843471
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That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. (5G KILLS battery life!)
TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.
cpufrost said:
That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. (5G KILLS battery life!)
TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.
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Agreed. There other tests I did where the upload was much higher... But it is all over the place (inconsistent)
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