Hey everyone,
I recently downgraded my Dell Venue Pro to NoDo(7403). What steps am I supposed to take to prevent the interop unlock from happening when I upgrade to Mango? I can't install WP7 Root Tools because it requires Mango to work. I installed a XAP to remove the sideload limit though. Would that be enough?
I haven't been following the DVP hacking scene, so this may be inaccurate now. However, as of a few months ago, the following was true:
1) There was no interop unlock hack for DVP. If you upgrade to Mango, you'll get interop-locked.
2) The "remove sideload limit" process is actually exactly what interop-unlock *is*, but the way it worked was device-specific and didn't work on Dell phones.
That may be incorrect now. It's possibly worth investigating, in any case. However, don't hold your breath. There were some potential interop-unlock hacks for the DVP, but so far as I know (I don't have one and therefore couldn't test), none of them ever worked.
Another option would be to use a custom ROM, if any of those are available for your phone. Again, I don't know.
GoodDayToDie said:
I haven't been following the DVP hacking scene, so this may be inaccurate now. However, as of a few months ago, the following was true:
1) There was no interop unlock hack for DVP. If you upgrade to Mango, you'll get interop-locked.
2) The "remove sideload limit" process is actually exactly what interop-unlock *is*, but the way it worked was device-specific and didn't work on Dell phones.
That may be incorrect now. It's possibly worth investigating, in any case. However, don't hold your breath. There were some potential interop-unlock hacks for the DVP, but so far as I know (I don't have one and therefore couldn't test), none of them ever worked.
Another option would be to use a custom ROM, if any of those are available for your phone. Again, I don't know.
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Yeah,it's not possible No custom ROMs ATM either.
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I was just wondering if there were any drawbacks to debranding a phone just to get the update?
I have done some searches and nothing has come up so far for this question.
Thanks!
Oh and as you know that the big plus for debranding is that you can get NoDo.
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I was just wondering if there were any drawbacks to debranding a phone just to get the update?
I have done some searches and nothing has come up so far for this question.
Thanks!
Oh and as you know that the big plus for debranding is that you can get NoDo.
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Eh, I dont know what version you get when you update officially but it may be different... I really doubt there's any drawbacks though.
That's what I am gathering and it makes sense if Microsoft wants to keep the WP7 together as a whole.
Thank you!
The drawback is you don't get updated apps from your carrier + phone manufacturer. But all you have to do is rebrand it and just download the apps from the market, if you really want them.
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The drawback is you don't get updated apps from your carrier + phone manufacturer. But all you have to do is rebrand it and just download the apps from the market, if you really want them.
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Now that is what I was expecting. I have my phone unlocked with the Chevron tool and if in the future I can't add back that string then I am hosed?
Will I at least keep the registry editor on the phone through the update process so I can then change it back?
Thanks for the response!
If you do the little hack to prevent re-locking (via Samsung Tools or the registry edit), the unlocked state should persist across the NoDo update as long as you don't do a hard reset. You won't, however, be able to use Chevron to unlock if you hard-reset the phone or otherwise manage to re-lock it after installing NoDo.
As for carrier apps, I can still access the AT&T AppCenter, useless as their stuff may be. That's either based on a different registry entry or on your SIM card, not on this update branding entry. I haven't been able to discern any effects other than whether the update servers will give you the updates or not.
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Samsung Focus, AT&T (unbranded, unlocked, NoDo)
All of your information will be backed up and carry over to the new update, don't worry about that.
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If you do the little hack to prevent re-locking (via Samsung Tools or the registry edit), the unlocked state should persist across the NoDo update as long as you don't do a hard reset.
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Do you know where that regedit is off the top of your head? I never applied it in the past so I have always had my Chevron unlocked phone relock after a week or two.
I will also look around here but thought I would ask you first.
Thanks for helping out everyone!
EDIT: And yes AT&T doesn't have many apps that I care about but I do like their account login app to check on how many minutes and texts that I have used.
EDIT 2: I found the Samsung Tools that you were talking about. Here is a link to the page for anyone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924497
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Do you know where that regedit is off the top of your head? I never applied it in the past so I have always had my Chevron unlocked phone relock after a week or two.
I will also look around here but thought I would ask you first.
Thanks for helping out everyone!
EDIT: And yes AT&T doesn't have many apps that I care about but I do like their account login app to check on how many minutes and texts that I have used.
EDIT 2: I found the Samsung Tools that you were talking about. Here is a link to the page for anyone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924497
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MyAT&T runs on any phone, as long as you have a network connection.
I think there is no drawback to unbrand. AT&T provides nothing other than update delay.
Does anyone know of the exact registry value that gets changed to prevent the relocking?
I know that the Samsung Tools will write the value but I can't find out what it changes.
I'm just trying to find it so it can be posted here and we can get it out to others before they update to NoDo.
EDIT: Found the string to keep it from relocking.
From here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938106
Prevent Phone from Relocking
The phone is unlocked, but will relock every time it syncs to Zune unless one of these hacks are done.
Samsung Devices (also removes sideload limit, fixes MMS/data on unlocked phones!):http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...4&d=1295825731 from this great thread by lyriquidperfection
All other devices:
In an installed registry editor, navigate to the following key and change these values.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DeviceReg]
"PortalUrlProd"=""
"PortalUrlInt"=""
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PLEASE HELP.... I have went back and forth more times than I can count between Mango and Nodo. The unlock.xml from the jailbreak Mango works but once I edit it.... it becomes useless. Why? Please tell me why because I am dumbfounded.
Hi all,
To start I have a Samsung Focus and I'm able to follow the instructions to unlock my device as in the [HOW TO]Omnia 7 mango jailbreak thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152422
I'm fully able to load the unlock.xml through diagnosis tool. Problem is when I try and add any further changes it doesn't work at all. I was hoping someone could look at the unlock.xml, attached to the thread, I'm trying to use and maybe see something I missed.
As we all know going back and forth from Nodo to Mango takes forever, which is why I'm asking for help.
To me it looks like it should work... especially since the original unlock.xml works from the original thread, but as soon as I edit it it no longer works at all. Any suggestions would be encouraged.
Settings > Cellular > Add APN (I use this way)
Use that. No need to add it via XML file. Or install Network Profile tools, though I'm not sure whether that tools worked or not.
mrcrazy11 said:
PLEASE HELP.... I have went back and forth more times than I can count between Mango and Nodo. The unlock.xml from the jailbreak Mango works but once I edit it.... it becomes useless. Why? Please tell me why because I am dumbfounded.
Hi all,
To start I have a Samsung Focus and I'm able to follow the instructions to unlock my device as in the [HOW TO]Omnia 7 mango jailbreak thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152422
I'm fully able to load the unlock.xml through diagnosis tool. Problem is when I try and add any further changes it doesn't work at all. I was hoping someone could look at the unlock.xml, attached to the thread, I'm trying to use and maybe see something I missed.
As we all know going back and forth from Nodo to Mango takes forever, which is why I'm asking for help.
To me it looks like it should work... especially since the original unlock.xml works from the original thread, but as soon as I edit it it no longer works at all. Any suggestions would be encouraged.
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Very simple, make a provxml and save it as "UTF-16FE", diagnosis only read this encode
Thanks A lot!!!!!! Worked like a charm!
That's something I never thought of. Thanks again man... I've spent so many hours trying to get a couple registry tweaks in Mango
Hi PPL,
using the following guide i updated my Omnia to mango 7720:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/19/how-to-update-your-windows-phone-device-to-mango
but now jailbroken apps are not working and are uninstalling. They use to work perfectly fine with my chevron unlock. What can be done now?
thanks
rafter_01 said:
Hi PPL,
using the following guide i updated my Omnia to mango 7720:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/19/how-to-update-your-windows-phone-device-to-mango
but now jailbroken apps are not working and are uninstalling. They use to work perfectly fine with my chevron unlock. What can be done now?
thanks
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"Most" homebrew apps do not work in Mango. Mango also relocks your device undoing Chevron. There is a walkthrough here on XDA that walks you through the upgrade process & allows your to relock via registry tweaks with provxml with HTC Connection Setup on HTC device & GPRS on Samsung devices. The homebrew that does still work needs to be side loaded before upgrading to mango. Some claim that their Samsung device can sideload homebrew with native code after mango, but I can't confirm this as i have a HTC device.
If ur using LG, go mfg menu and unlock ur phone again. Works for me.
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Now HTC connection is back online. I think it will work on device that have HTC update.
Someone plz find out is HTC have new way to edit registry or they r fix driver.
If they have new method to edit registry can we re-bulid homebrew and it will work again?
Stuck with mango 7720 w/o HTC update for a long time.
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Beware - I have 7740 with the HTC updates and ran CS today. It came up with Verizon Wireless and ran just fine (so the update fixed it enough to allow it to run at least; gave me the carrier not found error before) BUT after which I lost 3G.
Had to roll back to a backup and update again the 7740 to get 3G back (did not want to do a hard reset but that is supposed to work as well). Not sure how it would work for other carriers but if you have Verizon be warned...
I am leery of using CS now for anything and hope Heathcliff or GoodDayToDie finds an IU method. Until then I am not using this app. All my previous Theme color edits on NoDo stayed going to Mango and I have Chevron Unlock so can load homebrews (at least ones not relying on native code) so I can wait for a IU.
P.S. Also, it runs every time you do a restart of the phone; I deleted the app and not using it.
@LiFePo4: Had you installed the test version of the HTC Interop Unlock app? It screws up the Connection Setup app so that it can't be used normally. This process is reversible, but just uninstalling Interop Unlock doesn't do the reversal. I need to modify the app to make the reversal easy (you have to delete some files, which it can do but won't do automatically).
If you *hadn't* installed the test version of Interop Unlock since the last time you reset/restored your phone, and you still got Connection Setup not working correctly for you, then that's just weird.
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@LiFePo4: Had you installed the test version of the HTC Interop Unlock app? It screws up the Connection Setup app so that it can't be used normally. This process is reversible, but just uninstalling Interop Unlock doesn't do the reversal. I need to modify the app to make the reversal easy (you have to delete some files, which it can do but won't do automatically).
If you *hadn't* installed the test version of Interop Unlock since the last time you reset/restored your phone, and you still got Connection Setup not working correctly for you, then that's just weird.
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I did not have anything installed as far as trying IU (and never did); everything on the phone is stock. Yes, it is weird...
There was a similar issue with the VZW Trophy when Mango first came out and people who had the CS on their phone at that time reported loosing 3G. The behavior of the new CS seems to mirror that so I think it is related to Verizon and the CS settings (you would think the main purpose of CS is to FIX connection issues with your carrier and it appears to break it on VZW). I am guessing some setting in the CS data base does not match VZW's APN settings correctly as of now.
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P.S. The HTC CDMA Trophy (Spark_W) and the HTC Arrive (CDMA as well) are really PITA's when in come to trying anything for IU. Samsung and LG have methods and all other GSM HTCs have at least custom ROMs or other methods people are looking at but the CDMA versions of HTC devices have nothing at this point. Add to that the irony that each of these devices are the sole WP7 offering from Verizon/Sprint and we are hosed
Hello? Anybody still around? I hope so. I need some advice/help. I will bold my questions so they are easier to reference.
I have two identical Lumia 1020’s that I upgraded to Windows 10 using this procedure posted by hikari_calyx https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10-mobile/guide-win10-mobile-offline-update-t3527340 and summarized here https://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-10-mobile-how-guides/452310-how-offline-update-unsupported-lumias-8-1-latest-10586-xxx-14393-xxx-15063-xxx-build.html
This procedure got both phones to 10586.107. However, one phone was able to get updates to Redstone automatically. The other is stuck at 10586.107. The stuck phone is my daily driver and the phone that I’d like to be on Redstone. The one that actually made it to Redstone is a spare and has mechanical issues. It was the phone that I upgraded first to familiarize myself with the upgrade process. The phones are identical except the one that fully upgraded does not have an active SIM.
Since the upgrade I’ve been spending many hours in the forums and on youtube looking for reasons why my one phone might not be getting updates and also for ways to force updates. Most posts are very old and maybe I’m late to the party, but I’d like to get this other phone upgraded.
Here’s what I’ve tried:
1) Since the phones are 1020’s I had to modify the “OEMInput.xml” file to get past a bug in the update process. Following this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10-mobile/guide-how-to-fix-windows-update- issue-t3697172, I was able to continue getting updates on the one fully upgraded phone. Since I cannot get updates at all on the other phone, I don’t know if this will work for
it yet.
2) I checked that all my registry settings are properly set for my model:
PhoneManufacturer=”MicrosoftMDG”
PhoneManufacturerModelName=”RM-1085_11302”
PhoneModelName=”Lumia 950 XL”
PhoneHardwareVariant=”RM-1085”
I examined the source code for DHTUpgradeAdvisor and I think this is all that should be set.
3) I tried the Windows Insider App, to be sure I’m getting updates but it when I click the “Get preview builds” it throws a Server Error “A connection error prevented us from downloading programs for you. Please check the date/time of your device and its network connection and try again.”
Of course my date time is correct.
I tried reinstalling the Windows Insider App. Same problem.
I did notice a difference between the phones here. When I open the Windows Insider App on the phone that fully upgraded it shows “Go to Settings” instead of “Get Preview Builds”. The phone that fully upgraded has a “Windows Insider Program” link under Settings>Update&Security. The phone that refuses to upgrade does not have this link. The app does not work on either phone. Why is there a difference between the phones here? How can I get the Windows Insider App working again?
4) I’ve tried to add the provisioning for Mobile Enterprise, but I can never get it to show “Enterprise” in the about section. The package does appear in provisioning. I’ve tried multiple .ppkg files. None have worked.
I did see in a post that you must opt out of the Window Insider Program. I’m not sure how to do this since I cannot get into the Windows Insider App. Also it mentions that the SIM should be removed. I did not try this.
Is there a registry setting or something that can be modified to change the update rings or opt out of the insider program? Or does the insider app associate my phone with my Microsoft account and I need to login to my Microsoft account and somehow disassociate it there? Does the SIM really need to be removed?
5) I had the idea to make an image of the fully upgraded phone and then dump it into the non-upgraded phone and then hard reset it and recommission it. I tried to make an image with Windows Phone Internals 2.8. I am able to unlock the bootloader of the upgraded phone but I’m not able to get it into Mass Storage mode in order to make an image. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong. I have only a basic idea of the phone hardware architecture so I don’t even know what to try next to get an image. Any ideas?
Is this idea even feasible? Is it possible to take an image from one phone and dump it into another effectively cloning the first one? I wasn’t sure if there would be problems with hardware (MAC addresses, etc) mismatches with the software or not. Anyone tried this? Should I pursue this more?
6) The next option is to pump the updates into the phone offline. I am not clear on how to do this. Of course I know how to use iutool (as long as it behaves) since I used it to get the phones to 10586.107.
There is a guide to updating offline here https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10/windows-10-mobile/w10m-builds-update-links-collection-cab-t3234805. It looks like this is mostly a guide to capture the cabs for posterity. For upgrading, it’s not clear to me how to begin. There are links to some update cabs in the post, but also this link: https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=RM-1085_11302. It has info, but I don’t know what I’m looking at. This is where I get confused. Are these even the cabs I need? Are these update cabs independent of the phone model? Can I just grab the cabs within those links and copy them to my PC and then update my phone using iutool? Do I need to do all the updates in order or can I skip ahead? How do I know which ones I can skip over? What is 000-88 based vs 000-HK based vs CTM-MO based devices? Do I use iutool as I did before (keeping the same files in place and just overwrite the cabs with the new ones)? I see these questions partly answered in the subsequent posts, but I’m still unclear of the cabs to use and the order. This method seem like it’s for people smarter than myself and has a high risk of trial and error and brick potential. I’d rather figure out how to get the proper update pushed over-the-air if possible, but if someone has done this method on a 1020 successfully I might try it.
I would prefer to not have to do hard resets or rollbacks if possible since I feel like I'm very close to getting it to work (It worked on my other phone naturally).
Thank you to anyone who is able to answer any of my questions and give me advice on which of the above methods is best to pursue!
I’ve never posted to a social media site such as this, so if I’ve posted wrongly I apologize.
Your friend,
WolfCobra
If you want to upgrade to higher versions, just go to https://www.wpvision.de/tourniquet and download the "Phone Updater" there. With that you will be able to update any Windows Phone 8.1 up to 15063.297.
You might get into some trouble because you already modified OEMinput.xml. But overall you do not need to do any registry editing to get to build 15063 (Version 1703).
I registered on the wpvision.de site. I am waiting to be accepted for membership so that I can view the posts describing the functionality and operation of the phone updater. I'm not able to access much of the site, so I cannot tell how helpful this will be yet. Thank you for pointing out this site to me; it is one that I have not seen before.
WolfCobra said:
I registered on the wpvision.de site. I am waiting to be accepted for membership so that I can view the posts describing the functionality and operation of the phone updater. I'm not able to access much of the site, so I cannot tell how helpful this will be yet. Thank you for pointing out this site to me; it is one that I have not seen before.
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I was able to fully update my 1020 with the Phone Updater from wpvision.de. It works very well. I would recommend it to anyone still looking to update an unsupported phone.
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I was able to fully update my 1020 with the Phone Updater from wpvision.de. It works very well. I would recommend it to anyone still looking to update an unsupported phone.
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Can you please provide the linkto the thread?