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When the next version of Android is released....

Assuming we have root access by then (I really hope we do) will you be waiting for HTC to release the Sense version of it or are you going to upgrade to stock Android in the meantime?

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after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s

tuntang said:
after having experienced android being, modded by htc and then buggered by orange, i'm hoping we can root the desire as i'd like to go straight to a pure android o/s
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same here i hate what orange has done to the rom it descusts me since this is my first branded handset for about 5 years now and i am used to the generic version got very good and the flashing process on winmo now stuck on android v.confusing.

Don't hold your breath Read this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...s-in-may-require-froyo-we-have-sign-up-links/
If this is true ... FroYo (the next Android OS build iteration) will be next month together with Flash 10.1.
Then we can pray every night to have root access + write permission to the system partition !

I really hope we do have root access. Not having proper flash is really bugging me.
Either we get root or HTC Have a sense version very quick after the FroYo release.

Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.

brummiesteven said:
Doesn't the HTC Evo 4g have froyo? Would be ported over.
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The 2.1 update for the Hero still hasn't been released despite 2.1 having been released a good while ago.
But then again, the EVO 4G and the Desire have the exact same level of processing power so I don't see why HTC would delay the update in any way.
Let's hope HTC don't let us down.

whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet

mcgon1979 said:
whats the problem with the Flash thats on the desire? I have not had any non-loading flash sites at all yet
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It gets bogged down by heavy sites. I want flash to work just aswell as it does on my desktop.

New flash version will most probably have hardware acceleration, and all the functions flash 10.1 has on the desktop.
And -hopefully- it will be a fully optimized version of Flash. So it's actually doable on a mobile device. But I guess that is the only way for it to be succesful.
And just to be prepared, I'm programming all my new flash applications to be able to run on mobile devices (min resolution of 800x480). I'm going openscreen project, multiplatform, multi os, multi mobile devices!

If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM

Naughty_Ottsel said:
If the rumors about the change in how the OS will update then I cannot see too much trouble sorting out Sense for it as it will only be compatibility checks with the core components and allow for any new core features.
Plus going by @gogol's post there will be a lot of pressure on HTC to release Sense quick smart for it with full Flash support. For all we know HTC may already be working on it just because we don't know whats coming with Froyo doesn't mean the companies haven't got a pre-release ROM
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They more than likely do as they are releasing the EVO 4G with FroYo in about 2-3 weeks.
I'm guessing that Android 2.2 will be released within the next 2 - 2 1/2 weeks and that HTC will either release the Sense version of 2.2 at the same time or at the very very latest at the same time as the EVO.

Forgive my ignorance but will htc upgrade the android os on the desire to froyo when it is released or are we stuck with eclair unless we root the device?

phone update

Not living in the US and T-mobile UK not having the same phones the US has, I am in a bit of a predicament.
I currently have the Slide Reloaded v1 rom installed on my phone and would like to install gingerbread however I don't believe it has reached the UK. I called them and they have no clue that the slide even existed
Advice?

arcybarrios said:
Not living in the US and T-mobile UK not having the same phones the US has, I am in a bit of a predicament.
I currently have the Slide Reloaded v1 rom installed on my phone and would like to install gingerbread however I don't believe it has reached the UK. I called them and they have no clue that the slide even existed
Advice?
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I think you are a bit confused here gingerbread is not provided by the carrier as an OTA update(t-mo in this case) it is a custom rom built by cyanogenmod's team of developers that you flash using clockwork recovery (you know how it goes, you flashed slide reloaded). So all you have to do if you want to install gingerbread is either go here
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=espresso
and download one of those EXPERIMENTAL builds OR wait untill a stable version is posted, you will see it in the development section when its up.
Just wait for it.... oh btw the rom is CM7, so cm7=gingerbread for the slide... just in case you didnt know what it was

In-place upgrade for JB's release? Please help

If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?

javier180 said:
If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.

Halmo said:
Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
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Im new to the terms.. isnt flash the same as install?
Also, I used Odin to root my phone, How would I go about flashing the JB rom to my phone? Hopefully I'm saying this right. The thing I dont get since Samsung is releasing JB to the s3 why would the JB work flawless with the s3. Couldnt they use the Nexus 7's JB and port it to the S3. I'm still trying to understand how all this works. I dont want to have any hardware issues, like my camera or wifi not working from what i heard in the past.

Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.

Its_Dave said:
Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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I cant thank you enough for this reply. It was very informative! I been doing some research as well so I can get a better understanding on how these roms work. As sad as this sounds I found out cyanogenmod10 is basically a mod rom of jellybean. If these rumors are in fact true, would the jellybean release from samsung speed of the developing process for cyanogenmod10? Since they should share the same code or what not.
I think at this point I dont care to backup. All my pics are sync to my dropbox automatically and my can go to the playstore and redownload my payed apps there. So backing up is not needed with me.

Yeah, CM10 is a 4.1.1 rom as far as I know, I still have my old i9000 and installed it on it the other day. Its nice and has all the jelly bean features, I find it a bit laggy but all the functions work great. The laggyness is hard to say, the phone is old but they are also still porting over all the features, I think its a bit of both at the moment but since its not my daily main phone I don't play with it alot.
The Cyanogenmod is a great rom, and lots of third party roms are based off that rom just with other mods on top of it. Personally since its still a beta like it says in the forum i'm willing to wait and the rumours on jelly bean coming from samsung at the end of august seem to me more true by the day. And once that is released or leaked CM will be alot better faster. But you never know still waiting on ICS from those slow pokes on my tab 10.1 while in the mean time they have released two more tables with ICS haha.
So like i have said before its really up to you. You can install the beta and try it out, I know people are using it as a daily driver. And you can always flash back to stock.

about rom

hi,i ordered this phone today and i have question from you,i heard from someone that said:custom roms are not even near to stock rom in performane! is that right?because i hate stock rom and its IOS UI,i really wanna flash stock rom?and plz tell me about the camera.some people said its really bad and some said its really good!which are right??????thx

any answer?im waiting

Mr-Me said:
any answer?im waiting
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Personaly I received my phone a week and a half ago. I used stock for a week to be sure that all works and then I unlocked the bootloader-unlock, installed twrp and flashed jaguar. I think that this rom is even faster than stock without any delay between the button press and the action. And even if a rom is less powerful I think that with sd820 there is no risk that it can be really felt. Just choose the right roms and you will not have any problem

Its a good phone i have one

Question Custom Roms

Perhaps I am asking something that still doesn't have an answer. I am interested in purchasing this phone, but I am afraid because I don't know if there will be custom ROMs developed for it. I am interested in it because I don't usually upgrade my phone every few years.

ParadoX4eva said:
Perhaps I am asking something that still doesn't have an answer. I am interested in purchasing this phone, but I am afraid because I don't know if there will be custom ROMs developed for it. I am interested in it because I don't usually upgrade my phone every few years.
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Buy it if you like it, but custom roms will obviously be available and some custom roms have appeared

ParadoX4eva said:
Perhaps I am asking something that still doesn't have an answer. I am interested in purchasing this phone, but I am afraid because I don't know if there will be custom ROMs developed for it. I am interested in it because I don't usually upgrade my phone every few years.
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I am waiting for PE too.

Before anyone can develop a custom ROM we have to wait for the kernel sources to be released. It's hard to know when this will be as Xiaomi can be very slow sometimes, but I think it's a good sign that the F5 Pro/Redmi K60 kernel has been made available.

Wasn't that also the problem of the xiaomi 12 series? They're still waiting for that sources

ParadoX4eva said:
Perhaps I am asking something that still doesn't have an answer. I am interested in purchasing this phone, but I am afraid because I don't know if there will be custom ROMs developed for it. I am interested in it because I don't usually upgrade my phone every few years.
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I'm using that marble phone. As i know Until now, there isn't custom rom available yet.
For a while, i prefer to stay on original china rom. I still thinking about unlock the bootloader, because i don't have windows pc/laptop. It's complicated to installing eu rom on mac

FlyRiz87 said:
I'm using that marble phone. As i know Until now, there isn't custom rom available yet.
For a while, i prefer to stay on original china rom. I still thinking about unlock the bootloader, because i don't have windows pc/laptop. It's complicated to installing eu rom on mac
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You can actually flash the EU ROM because there's a new type for the flashable .zips where you can flash it on either a recovery or fastboot