Well, I searched the forums and haven't found anything specifically for the Defy.
Coming from an HTC Wildfire, which under similar usage had a battery drain split of 30% Cell standby, 30% wifi, 30% system, I noticed that with the exact same usage, the Defy has a cell standby use of over 50% every single day (right now its at 54%). Funny thing is, it ALWAYS says on the battery manager that there is no reception for exactly 50% of the time. This is bull, because I live in central London, and I rarely get less than maximum signal displayed.
Also, I'm on WiFi almost all the time, (WiFi at home and at uni, so the only time it uses 3g/HSPA is on the way there and back, which is less than half an hour).
Has anyone else had this? Any idea what may cause it? I feel like I should be getting better battery life than what I'm getting now, it lasts under a day.
Setting your mobile to 2G only should save you a little power, also be careful with task killers as they can kill some system processes that reduce battery usage, restart you cell to get them back.
I can get 3-4days of battery life with lite use.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Setting your mobile to 2G only should save you a little power, also be careful with task killers as they can kill some system processes that reduce battery usage, restart you cell to get them back.
I can get 3-4days of battery life with lite use.
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm not using any task killers, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Any tips on how to switch it to 2G? I can't figure out anything in the network settings.
I'm just thinking that there may be something wrong with my radio receiver/transmitter to be using so much power in comparison to wifi and phone idle (well, compared to my last phone).
You can switch to 2G in wireless & network settings, mobile networks, select network.
But I am already using 2G and I have the same issue, maybe it is a little better than 3G, but still the "cell standby" is using most of the battery.
I saw the battery usage on Galaxy and there is only a very small usage for "cell standby" only about 10%.
i dont know what's going on with your cell,but WIFI is actually the biggest battery taker
,and the strength of signal power really do something to your WIFI chipset battery usage
what about a better WIFI signal....err i tried to change my cell into 2G or even outline
it doesn't work too much as i want
so maybe think about the WIFI problem?
Well, right now the main drainers are as follows:
Mobile standby: 44%
Go Launcher EX: 25%
Wi-Fi: 15%
Display: 15%
Phone idle: 2%
I was in my place all day today, with the phone permanently connected to Wi-Fi, so 3G was not in use. I get very strong cell reception in my place so I either have a spectacularly efficient WiFi module, or a power hungry cell radio. Or the measurements the phone is taking are wrong.
On another note, Go Launcher seems to be taking up a large percentage since its last update (yesterday or the day before), so I'm uninstalling that.
if WIFI should not be the reason and you've uninstalled the update task,i think it should be OK...but what would you do if that doesn't work?
the battery usage of standby was still more than 40 percent,yes?
why dont you download another battery monitor software....?
i'd have a longtime software error in my HTC G3.....it alwaws show me 45percent remaining battery ....
in setting/wireless & network/mobile networks/select network --- it's good to set 2G or 3G do not let automatic because it switches from 3G to 2G if the signal drops. Set 3g and see how it is.
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mine on automatic in 6 hours battery dropped to 50% in standby, and now it is set to 3g all the time
mine:
Mobile standby: 40%
Display: 22%
Phone idle: 21%
System: 4%
Games, Adw Launcher EX and os: each 3-2%
when in games mine sometimes freezes and i must get out and restart the game???? i dont no why and i dont no if it is ok but ....
Thanks for the input everybody. So all of today I used the phone pretty sparingly at home, and it's been constantly connected to WiFi. Distribution is:
Mobile Standby: 56%
Wi-Fi: 19%
Display: 12%
Phone idle: 9%
Android System 2%
Under Mobile Standby, it still says "Time without a signal: 50%" even though it's definitely had perfect reception all day. I don't know what's causing it to report incorrect numbers :/
Anyway, I switched from auto to 3g auto (I tried 2G, it didn't seem to work properly, Google wouldn't even load).
I guess I'll just ignore it :/
Edit: When not on wifi, it seems to switch between 3g and HSPA quite often. Could this mean something?
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Edit: When not on wifi, it seems to switch between 3g and HSPA quite often. Could this mean something?
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just like what <stapuv>says when your cell drops any one of the 3G or HSPA singnal another singnal will be switched...it'll use more power for changing network frequently.....but i dont no if this could be the reason for your situation...hmmmm
From my reading the 50% without signal is just a software bug, and can be fixed by toggling on aeroplane mode turning of teh screen for 20 seconds or so and then turning of aeroplane mod when you notice it's happening. the 50% will soon decrease. I too believe that cell standby is using way to much on my phone (always 45%+) even though im browesing the web facebook or playing games for larger peroids of time and those apps don't even show up on the battery usage display and if they do theya re only 2 percent or less.
I have a question for you guys :
I get
46% mobile standby
43% phone idle
10% voice calls
3% display
is this 43% phone idle all right? Doea it mean that 43% of the battery have beed drained by phone in idle state (so maybe not sleeping?) or it means that from all the time phone was idle (asleep) for 43%?
I guess mobile standby use is about the same on everyones phones. That's what I wanted to find out!
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Well, right now the main drainers are as follows:
Mobile standby: 44%
Go Launcher EX: 25%
Wi-Fi: 15%
Display: 15%
Phone idle: 2%
On another note, Go Launcher seems to be taking up a large percentage since its last update (yesterday or the day before), so I'm uninstalling that.
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After Go Launcher EX latest update, the battery seems to drain a lot faster during idle/standby. Removed that and standby battery usage is better.
Just thought I'd add my finding on this.
My Defy regularly showed Mobile Standard over 50% - but also time without signal was always double the time that the phone had been switched on. For instance if the phone was switched on since a reboot for 1 hour then mobile standby would show the total time as 2 hours but time without a signal as 1 hour.
I had always been running on a battery saver profile (in froyo I was running the custom battery profile) & after every reboot the mobile standby bug would show.
Yesterday I changed my battery profile to the Performance mode & after several reboots the bug hasn't shown up & now the mobile standby shows the total time correctly & zero minutes without signal. The %age use has dropped to be more in line with wifi at around 32%.
I haven't noticed any difference in battery life so as mentioned in a previous post it does look like some sort of bug.
A percentage is a proportion.
Just because it's higher on the Defy, that doesn't mean the mobile standby is using more power than it does on other handsets, it could just mean everything else is using less.
There's no point comparing your Defy's battery usage to any other handset apart from another Defy.
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Just thought I'd add my finding on this.
My Defy regularly showed Mobile Standard over 50% - but also time without signal was always double the time that the phone had been switched on. For instance if the phone was switched on since a reboot for 1 hour then mobile standby would show the total time as 2 hours but time without a signal as 1 hour.
I had always been running on a battery saver profile (in froyo I was running the custom battery profile) & after every reboot the mobile standby bug would show.
Yesterday I changed my battery profile to the Performance mode & after several reboots the bug hasn't shown up & now the mobile standby shows the total time correctly & zero minutes without signal. The %age use has dropped to be more in line with wifi at around 32%.
I haven't noticed any difference in battery life so as mentioned in a previous post it does look like some sort of bug.
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OK so after a few days of having no issue I rebooted the phone & the "bug" came back today so I guess it wasn't to do with the battery mode as I then put it back into custom battery mode, rebooted the bug went away.
Haven't noticed any difference over the last few days so I'm not going to worry about it.
I have found that DEFY is getting the readings wrong!
Here is how I get this:
1) fully charged the battery
2) started angry birds.
3) ~2 hour later, battery dropped to 60% and usages was as follows:
mobile standby 49%
phone idle 40%
display 4%
angry birds 7%
WTF ?!?! it should be : angry birds ~ 80%
This mettery is tottaly useless!
Personally I couldn't care less what the battery usage breakdown says. In my case 1% battery can standby 1~2 hours or use 3~5 minutes. That's pretty good for me as a charge can last 2 days.
Hi.
Could someone with this "bug" or "battery problems" do a test for me ?
A few hours after you've last charged your phone (or connected to USB) and being sure you haven't rebooted your phone recently (24 hours or so), do the following:
(My phone uses spanish language so the names might be different ...)
Dial *#*#4636#*#*, and choose battery history.
There, choose "CPU Use" and "since last charged".
What are the 4 or 5 main processes appearing in that list, and what's the CPU time they've used (you'll find that by "clicking" on the process' name) ?
Hi
I thought I'd report on my testing with CPUspy. I've had the Nexus for two weeks now, drained the battery completely from a full charge about 4 to 5 times.
CPUspy is stating that the phone is in deep sleep 95% of the time with 350mhz 3% of the time and all other frequencies at 0% for some reason.
I'm running stock with data plan always off, bluetooth always off and WiFi only twice per week for about 30 minutes + the phone never uses 3G, only 2G networks. I've not made too many calls (3 calls) and about 11 texts during the two week period. I've installed two 2D games, battery monitor widget and Facebook app.
Today I installed Juice Defender (free version) but I honestly think that it wont help at all since my settings are already very tight/restricted. I always make sure no apps are running in the background.
With light use (4 text messages, zero phone calls and 18 minutes using WiFi, phone only in 2G mode and playing 20 minutes of games) the battery depletes about 28%.
My results:
Android OS is using between 28% and 68% of the battery
Phone idle is around 38%
Cell Standby is around 14%.
What is the difference between phone idle and cell standby? How does CPUspy tell me that the phone is 95% in deep sleep yet it drains so heavily with light use and without any use at all about 4% per hour? Is CPUspy a good program to use with ICS?
I thought my findings would be of assistance to some of you.
Hello All,
Noticed the following, and was hoping somebody could shed some light on what I'm seeing.
I noticied ~10%/hour battery drain after flashing AOKP M6. Better Battery Stats showed the Exchange Mail Service as being the primary culprit (60.4% on wakelock), and GSam Battery confirmed the exchange service was keeping the phone awake. I have the mail service set to check every 15 minutes. (Tangent - what happened to Sync Scheduling, where you could specify sync frequency based on day and time?)
I used the power saver options in the rom to disable WIFI and 3G radios when the screen turned off, and battery drain plummeted to ~2-3% per hour. Battery stats confirmed the phone was now sleeping normally. However, now mail syncing is using up celular data.
I then modified the power saving settings to keep the wifi on when the screen is off (but still turn off the 3g radio), and to prefer the wifi network for sync data. Power drain increased to ~7% an hour, and battery stats confirmed the phone is no longer sleeping.
To recap:
Nothing tweaked = no sleep, exchange service the culprit
Wifi and 3G radio disabled = sleeps normally
Wifi enabled, 3G disabled = no sleep, exchange service the culprit
Are there any logs or screenshots or anything you guys would like me to provide to back up my observations? Tests occurred over one-hour periods throughout today. No other activity during these tests (phone was kept in my pocket).
I've noticed a sudden decrease in standby battery life on my Note 2. The "Running" tab of the application manager reports no new apps, though (bad facebook update? they're known for this kind of stuff).
Anyway, it would happily spend 8-9 hours in standby while I was sleeping with 7% battery loss. (Bluetooth, 3G, NFC, S-Beam, Power Saver off; Mobile data, WiFi on)
Now, it barely got 1 hour and 47 minutes with the last 5% of juice.
Running non-system stuff:
Viber
Kik
imo
Formspring
Facebook
SwiftKey Flow
Any idea about the sudden change?
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I've noticed a sudden decrease in standby battery life on my Note 2. The "Running" tab of the application manager reports no new apps, though (bad facebook update? they're known for this kind of stuff).
Anyway, it would happily spend 8-9 hours in standby while I was sleeping with 7% battery loss. (Bluetooth, 3G, NFC, S-Beam, Power Saver off; Mobile data, WiFi on)
Now, it barely got 1 hour and 47 minutes with the last 5% of juice.
Running non-system stuff:
Viber
Kik
imo
Formspring
Facebook
SwiftKey Flow
Any idea about the sudden change?
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Try to use better battrry stats to find out whats the wakelock while in standby time. And use cpu spy to check you devices in full deep sleep while in stand by mode.
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Up to now I'm happy with my Z1C.
But in the last weeks the battery drain went up.
Before that I could get a day and a half to two days of use , I am a moderate user during the day.
Most of the time wifi is off, 4g is off but bluetooth is on, day and night.
Before I had bluetooth turned off when not in the car.
But because I bought a Smartband talk I switched bluetooth to on without turning it off again.
Up to last week the battery was draining faster because of the bluetooth use but it was still good enough for me.
The last weeks / months I downloaded a lot more music on the external card and switched USB use to MSC so I could use it in my car. I listened to music in the car when driving to and from my workplace (1 hour drive single way).
Because it was charging in the morning and in the evening I did not notice any abnormal behavior.
Before I started to use the phone as a mediaplayer in the car I could get 1.5 to 2 days.
When using it as a mediaplayer this did not change, probably because of the charging in the car
Now I switched from workplace and stopped listening to music in the car.
Now my phone lasts for 0.8 up to 1 day max.
When looking at the battery stats it seems to me the mediaserver was eating up a lot.
So I deleted all data from the phone and I did a reset to factory settings. I also removed 80% of the music on the external sd card.
But even then I get a battery drain from 30-35% in about 7 hours time during the night.
I'm running again with only necessary apps installled.
So for the time being no xposed modules, no smartband talk and only switching bluetooth on when using the phone in the car.
But the problem does not seem to be solved.
I have a weak signal at home (1 bar), I had a weak signal at my previous workplace (1 bar) and I have a weak signal at my current workplace (als 1 bar max).
I wonder what is eating the battery so fast?
Is it the weak signal?
Is it because I charged the battery too much (every morning and evening in the car)?
Is my battery dying?
Is it related to an app (multiple apps)?
I have this phone since april 2014.
I am on 14.4.A.0.108 / unlocked / rooted with the doomkernel v22.
So can anybody tell me what monitoring app to use and how to interprete the results from such an app?
I'm in stamina mode.
Estimated lifespan battery is at 2 days when an actual battery percentage of 42%.
I already have betterbatterystats but I do not know if this is the best app for monitoring.
Is there something else I have to look into?
Today I was trying to get my settings in the state I need them to be and when looking at power management / battery usage I can see the screen is the biggest battery user but that seems normal in the current situation.
What about deep sleep, how to monitor this?
How to identify apps being the biggest battery consumers?
What about the apps in manage notifications, there's a lot of them, will it help disabling some / a lot of them?
I really like to get back to charging the phone only once every 2 days.
Any help would really be appreciated.
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Any help would really be appreciated.
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Better Battery Stats is you friend, it will help you locate what it depleting your battery and keeping your phone awake, as well as listing the deepsleep times .
If you have a rooted phone download Disableservice from the playstore. Reading your post you use a fitness tracker so disabling all of these might not work, but it's worth a go.
Once it's installed, open the system tab, open Google Play Services, then untick (disable) the following:
ConfigFetchService
FitnessSyncAdapterService
GoogleLocationManagerService
GoogleLocationService
NetworkLocationService
ProximitySettingInjectorService
UserPresenceService
WearableControlService
WearableService
WearableSyncService
then reboot your phone.
Disabling these from running should have no impact on your phone, it doesn't for me, and will give you 10-15% more battery life.
Turning of sync on your Gmail also saves a lot of battery, especially if you live in a poor reception area, as it polls the Gmail server every few minutes. Likewise sync on your normal emails. It means you have to check yourself to see if you have any mail, but will put a few extra hours on your battery.
The other thing that extended my battery life was deleting the cached data. Settings\Storage and hold down on Cached data until you get a popup asking you to delete it. I know it sounds bizarre, but it really worked.
Try putting a stock kernel back in for a few days and see if that makes a difference.