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Is there such a fixture to install in place of the battery that would power the phone while it's connected to wall-power or a computer? I keep hearing batteries last longer on laptops when connected to power and have their batteries removed.
What you are referring to is using the laptop while the battery is plugged in and charging. I think it depends on the laptop and the battery, as it's not a 100% thing, may even by a myth.
As for the EVO, no, you can't power it without a battery. The USB power doesn't provide enough power to keep the phone active, that or HTC just didn't make it that way.
Also, the batteries for phones are cheap. If in a year you need to replace it, fork over the $20..or for $10 you can get an AC charger and 2 spare batteries off ebay.
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What you are referring to is using the laptop while the battery is plugged in and charging. I think it depends on the laptop and the battery, as it's not a 100% thing, may even by a myth.
As for the EVO, no, you can't power it without a battery. The USB power doesn't provide enough power to keep the phone active, that or HTC just didn't make it that way.
Also, the batteries for phones are cheap. If in a year you need to replace it, fork over the $20..or for $10 you can get an AC charger and 2 spare batteries off ebay.
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The problem with usb through the computer is that it throttles the power being pulled to not damage the computer, when plugged into the wall it's full power.
I have done it, but it doesn't work all the time, I had to do it like when it was booting and stuff.
I only tried from the wall.
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone else had a similar problem..
Everytime I connect a car charger, it charges for a second then disconnects itself, the charger is still plugged in, and the engine is running. The red light on the charger is on too. I'm not saying this is a ROM problem or anything at all, but its the second charger I've had that does this, I don't suppose anybody knows a fix if it happens on other devices too?
Is this an official HTC charger?
I know it sounds silly, but most cheap unbranded car chargers cause all sorts of problems. It's usually that they don't short the two data pins, so that the phone thinks it's plugged into a PC. It will then only charge at half rate (500mA) in line with usb standards.
Also, the charger may not even be able to handle a 500mA output, which would suggest why your phones sees the charger, measures the output, sees it as insufficient, and stops the charging. Is there a sticker on the charger starting current output? They can still be misleading though.
An official HTC car charger (just like the mains wall charger) will have it's data pins sorted out. The phone will detect this, and switch to mains charging mode, and draw the full 1000mA. You may have noticed that your phone will charge twice as fast off a mains wall charger than it will from being plugged into a computers usb port.
Trust me I've thrown out about 3 of the cheap ones! Even charging at 500mA, your phone will still not be getting enough juice to do google maps navigation with GPS.
Hope I've helped.
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It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...
jimster4389 said:
It's a cheap eBay one, but I've bought from the company in the past...when I had an iPhone And it worked perfectly. The first charger had a label saying it's max was 500mA. That lasted about 20 minutes..Need it so much more recently because of my battery drain problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996938.
I had no idea HTC sold official ones (seems I lack common sense), will give them a go, at least then I'll get a decent warranty if it doesn't work...
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If its a USB charger try a different USB lead. When my Desire arrived brand new the lead would only work properly when I bent the lead round the back of the phone otherwise it would start a charge (LED would light up red, phone says charging) but the battery % would never get any higher. Bought a new official HTC lead and problem solved.
The Nitro battery is model number BL-49kh. Not many cheap OEM options out there right now, but an "official" spare can be purchased from AT&T store:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ssoryBucket&q_sku=sku5520227#fbid=aQi6sm_4Fs8
Here's a few charger options...
Portable Chargers
Duracell Portable USB Charger
Car Chargers
Motorola Vehicle Rapid Charger
Kensington HIGH Current car charger
Hybrid Chargers
Boxwave AC/Car/Airplane USB Charger
More charging options
Alright, it seems the Ebay seller "smarthan" has some good deals on batteries and standalone battery chargers.
Official P930 battery + microUSB cable + standalone battery charger for $30
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Official P930 battery for $15
red_solo_cup said:
Alright, it seems the Ebay seller "smarthan" has some good deals on batteries and standalone battery chargers.
Official P930 battery + microUSB cable + standalone battery charger for $30
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Official P930 battery for $15
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That's looking good...i like the bundle one. I definitely will need a spare battery n battery charger
dose anyone know if they have a stand alone wall charger for the batterys if i was to buy a few extra i have found my self at times away from home for days and my car can never keep the charging to a nice level
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dose anyone know if they have a stand alone wall charger for the batterys if i was to buy a few extra i have found my self at times away from home for days and my car can never keep the charging to a nice level
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Well Tokie, for your car, u can use something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Universal-Car-Charger-Pc-2ca/dp/B004YZI1T4
One of the ports will have a 1.5amp output and will suffice to charge your battery quickly.
And if you have a tablet or wanna go ultra crazy in charging your battery n burning it U can use something like this:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364269
That one has a 2.1amp output as well, enough power to burn a hole in your phone's battery LOL!!
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Well Tokie, for your car, u can use something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Universal-Car-Charger-Pc-2ca/dp/B004YZI1T4
One of the ports will have a 1.5amp output and will suffice to charge your battery quickly.
And if you have a tablet or wanna go ultra crazy in charging your battery n burning it U can use something like this:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364269
That one has a 2.1amp output as well, enough power to burn a hole in your phone's battery LOL!!
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ill let youknow once it comes in lol 2.1amps haha will my incuerence cover that in case of a fire
I use 2.1 amp in the car and it charges pretty fast even while streaming spotify or radio through bluetooth with screen off. It helps to get through a day of heavy usage without swapping a baterry.
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For those of you who are getting an external battery charger, will you let me know if it manages to charge the batteries to 100%? I currently use a universal battery charger, which worked great for my other phone batteries (would charge them quickly and fully, so when I popped them into my phone, it showed 100%), but for whatever reason, when I try to externally charge my Nitro's battery, no matter how long I leave it or put it back on the charger, it will only reach 88% or so. Then I have to fill up the rest by putting the battery in the phone and charging through USB. I know it's not my battery (I have two, and they both do it), so I'm just curious if other external battery chargers might be better. Let me know if it works for you! If it does I'll get whatever kind you have. I'd be super grateful, thanks!
I'm getting a legit LG battery charger specifically for the nitro. It'll take me about 2 weeks to get it (coming from LG itself in Korea) but when it gets here I'll try it n will let u know how it goes.
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For those of you who are getting an external battery charger, will you let me know if it manages to charge the batteries to 100%? I currently use a universal battery charger, which worked great for my other phone batteries (would charge them quickly and fully, so when I popped them into my phone, it showed 100%), but for whatever reason, when I try to externally charge my Nitro's battery, no matter how long I leave it or put it back on the charger, it will only reach 88% or so. Then I have to fill up the rest by putting the battery in the phone and charging through USB. I know it's not my battery (I have two, and they both do it), so I'm just curious if other external battery chargers might be better. Let me know if it works for you! If it does I'll get whatever kind you have. I'd be super grateful, thanks!
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Btw Itiskonrad, where did you get your batteries from? Is it from that ebay seller or you got it from somewhere else? Just curious, cuz I've been searching everywhere, but nobody else sells it but that guy.
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Btw Itiskonrad, where did you get your batteries from? Is it from that ebay seller or you got it from somewhere else? Just curious, cuz I've been searching everywhere, but nobody else sells it but that guy.
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I ordered 1 extra battery AND the battery/batterycharger/cable from the ebay seller I mentioned earlier.
The batteries seem legit, they last just as long and have identical plastic casings. However, the two batteries I bought from ebay have a different sticker/label on them. They do not have the "FCC" markings on them or any other american legalese on them.
As far as the charger goes, it works great. I carry a battery in my wallet, one in the phone, and one in my backpack. I really like the peace of mind!
I also got mine from that Ebay seller. I'm confident it's legit. The build is identical, and it maintains charge and behaves exactly the same as the one that came with my phone. It's just probably the battery for the Asian Optimus lte, hence no fcc and different labeling. I'm not worried, and I'm pretty careful about batteries.
@red solo cup, do you know if the charger manages to bring the battery to 100%, ie, when you pop it in the phone and turn it on, do the battery stats actually say 100? My current charger brings it to around 90%, which is not bad, but if I'm going to buy another charger, I'd like it to max out the battery completely =) Thanks!
I have not checked Battery Monitor Widget immediately after putting in the battery, so I cannot absolutely confirm that the battery charges to 100%. However, I have noticed that the battery in the notification area was completely full, including the little "nub" on the left of it.
I will check this out when I get back from work tonight.
If the nub's full, it's at least at 95% I'm pretty sure.
Damn, I don't mind getting it from him, but he posted that it will take almost 20 days to a month for the item to get to me! That's frigging much too long for shipping something overseas. Things I get in China or HK doesn't even go beyond 2 weeks the longest.
red_solo_cup said:
I ordered 1 extra battery AND the battery/batterycharger/cable from the ebay seller I mentioned earlier.
The batteries seem legit, they last just as long and have identical plastic casings. However, the two batteries I bought from ebay have a different sticker/label on them. They do not have the "FCC" markings on them or any other american legalese on them.
As far as the charger goes, it works great. I carry a battery in my wallet, one in the phone, and one in my backpack. I really like the peace of mind!
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I checked and the LG charger does indeed charge the battery up to 100%
@aquariuz: I really cannot recall how long shipping took as I ordered the battery on the 15, and the battery+charger on the 21st. I was away for the holidays, but by the time I got back to my place on the 28th they were both in my mailbox.
You're the best! Thanks a bunch! Ordering mine ASAP! =)
24v input
Has anyone found any dual USB (2.1a and 1a) with 12 - 24v input? I run crane and sadly in most of our cranes the Cig Lighter socket is running 24v.
I have a few 12 - 24v input single USB chargers with 1amp out but.. I'd love to find a dual. I have to run my speakers and charge my phone or mp3/RADIO -- seeing as how Optimus doesn't have a FM tuner
keenz said:
Has anyone found any dual USB (2.1a and 1a) with 12 - 24v input? I run crane and sadly in most of our cranes the Cig Lighter socket is running 24v.
I have a few 12 - 24v input single USB chargers with 1amp out but.. I'd love to find a dual. I have to run my speakers and charge my phone or mp3/RADIO -- seeing as how Optimus doesn't have a FM tuner
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I found this on amazon. The specifications specifically state: "Input: 12-24V DC; Output: 5.0V DC 2.1Amp" Plus it is only 5.99+free shipping.
I have this and the specs on kensington's website state "Input: 10V-18VDC, Output (30pin/USB): 5VDC-3100mA.", So I assume that will not work.
so if i have to buy a car charger, what is the MAX specs i can use for the LG OPTIMUS LTE?
I recently sold my old Toyota Rav4 which only had a standard cigarette lighter car charger. I used a cheap charger I've had since my old Blackberry Tour to charge my ET4G. I work on the road a lot and used the car charger a lot for about the last 10 months til my phone started dying on me. Sprint store tested the phone and said the battery was slightly swollen and definitely showed signs of being damaged which in turn damaged the terminals on the phone causing constant reboots. I paid $35 to have Sprint/Samsung replace the phone as it was less than a yr old and under warranty.
I now have a new car and new ET4G. New car has USB port under the radio as well as 2 standard car charging ports. I've done several searches and read several threads about different voltages and which ones actually charge phones and tablets etc but none have answered my question. The question is is USB charging any safer than standard car charger? I've been told by a friend that fluctuations in the cars battery can send different amounts of charge to the phone and damage it over time. Both methods charge my phone so I don't care which one I use though I'd rather use USB as my USB cord is just 1.5 feet long (perfect length to reach my phone mount).
For some reason they actually gave me a new ET4G not a refurb and it works great. I don't want to damage the battery on this one and would like to keep it alive and sell it when I upgrade phones around December. That's only a few months away but I'd like to know I'm not damaging the battery in the mean time. Any input would be great. Thanks in advance and sorry for the lengthy write up.
Anyone with any input? Anyone use USB to micro USB in their cars?
Don't know if the new car is also a Toyota but here goes...
04 and 10 Toyotas - tried a cheapo MicroUSB charger and the voltage actually drained the battery! So I bought a $10 lighter to USB port charger, plugged in the cable and charges like a champ!
It really depends on how much power they're pushing through the USB port and whether the E4GT can regulate it. I'm finding it to work great - and MTP mode should give you access to the music on the head unit. (Again, *if* it's a newer Toyota...)
Most radios and internal usb ports will be 500ma (same as a standard computer usb port). That is only enough to charge the phone when it is sleeping. Just snag a $10 adapter that puts out 1a.
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Thank you both. I just drove 2 hours with Bluetooth on and GPS running while connected to USB. Battery drained 8% which isn't much so it wasn't strong enough to charge it but slowed down drain.
The new car is a 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT (It's a new model to Hyundai). The cigarette charger doesn't seem to over heat the phone like my Toyota did. I'll ask Hyundai how much charge the cigarette lighter port puts out I guess.
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I highly recommend the OEM Motorola car charger. Got mine on Amazon for $6. It was the only charger that would work on my old phone because it had voltage control. Any generic charger would only drain my battery while still displaying the charging animation.
Plus it has a cool blue glow to it.
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I highly recommend the OEM Motorola car charger. Got mine on Amazon for $6. It was the only charger that would work on my old phone because it had voltage control. Any generic charger would only drain my battery while still displaying the charging animation.
Plus it has a cool blue glow to it.
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Sweet, I'll take a look at it. I heard back from Hyundai and the guy said he has no documentation on it yet since its a new model but if I wanted to swing by he could test it real quick and let me know. Today was hot as hell. I got in the car and blasted the AC. Put the phone on the USB charger and after about 10 minutes I got a warning on my screen saying phone is too hot and charging has stopped. I didn't even have GPS on or anything. I quickly unplugged the phone and it was fine after that. How can the USB overheat the phone when it can't even charge it while I run GPS and Bluetooth? I wasn't too happy. I used a brand new USB to micro USB cord from Monoprice (5 pin if that makes a difference).
Hi, I brought a Nokia 6, for my 11 year old son about a month ago.
It was fine until about 4 days ago, when fast charging stopped working, and it only charges very slowly. If the phone is switched off, then it charges at a rate of about 4% per hour, so an overnight charge will charge the battery from empty to about 35%. If the phone is booted but otherwise idle, then the charger will just about keep up with power consumption and the battery percentage does not increase or decrease.
I have tried multiple chargers, cables and power banks. It makes no difference. The fact that I get slow charging when the phone is off suggests that the culprit is unlikely to be a battery draining app.
There is a suspicion of hardware damage, as my son may have pulled the charging cable out, or pushed it in too hard, bent it sideways or the like, though the set of symptoms is odd for a hardware issue, and feels more like software, and in any case the USB type C connector is normally very robust.
The phone is running the latest stock firmware from Nokia. It is not rooted unlocked or the like.
Has anyone seen anything similar? Can you suggest what I can do to investigate the problem further?
Did any of those support Qualcomm quick charge 3 or 4? Try installing Ampere on his phone and check the current from a fast charger with a good USB C cable. If it shows something in the neighborhood of 1500mA to 2300mA this is a software problem. Otherwise this is a hardware problem from somewhere along the circuit. At best all cables you tested are bad. At worst your phone needs a repair.
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Did any of those support Qualcomm quick charge 3 or 4? Try installing Ampere on his phone and check the current from a fast charger with a good USB C cable. If it shows something in the neighborhood of 1500mA to 2300mA this is a software problem. Otherwise this is a hardware problem from somewhere along the circuit. At best all cables you tested are bad. At worst your phone needs a repair.
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Thanks.
I don't think any of the charges I used support Qualcomm quick charge, is it worth buying one on amazon prime to check?
I will install Ampere and report back.
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Thanks.
I don't think any of the charges I used support Qualcomm quick charge, is it worth buying one on amazon prime to check?
I will install Ampere and report back.
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If you are the type to charge your phone overnight I don't think you need it unless you forgot. Running with a 50-70
Battery is better than having a dead battery, so it is worth it for the safety of mind.
My Nokia charger seems to support it out of the box. It has [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected] Depending on where you got it yours could very well be similar to mine.
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Did any of those support Qualcomm quick charge 3 or 4? Try installing Ampere on his phone and check the current from a fast charger with a good USB C cable. If it shows something in the neighborhood of 1500mA to 2300mA this is a software problem. Otherwise this is a hardware problem from somewhere along the circuit. At best all cables you tested are bad. At worst your phone needs a repair.
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I installed Ampere, and it is reporting charge rates of 150 to 450 mA using a generic charger and cable, that works fine with my OnePlus phone. I will have to find the original Nokia charger to be sure, but it does look like some sort of hardware issue.
Thanks.
chrestomanci said:
I installed Ampere, and it is reporting charge rates of 150 to 450 mA using a generic charger and cable, that works fine with my OnePlus phone. I will have to find the original Nokia charger to be sure, but it does look like some sort of hardware issue.
Thanks.
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Yeah I noticed the phone is picky about what charges it and what doesn't, probably the phone playing it safe with keeping the lithium in good condition.
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Yeah I noticed the phone is picky about what charges it and what doesn't, probably the phone playing it safe with keeping the lithium in good condition.
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Interesting. I have charged my TA-1068 on all types of chargers. All have worked within an average amount of time. I wonder if different models are more or less picky. To me, it sounds as if the charging port might be damaged. Kids tend to be tough on equipment.
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Interesting. I have charged my TA-1068 on all types of chargers. All have worked within an average amount of time. I wonder if different models are more or less picky. To me, it sounds as if the charging port might be damaged. Kids tend to be tough on equipment.
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True, the phone itself might be one or two steps from being a brick with a decent smartphone inside but ports are not always invincible.
Quick update: I took the phone back to the store, and the store decided that it was probably a defect in the phone (not user damage) so they have sent it to Nokia for warranty work. With luck I should get it back repaired in a week or so.
I will post again to report the outcome.
I too noticed this traveling
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Yeah I noticed the phone is picky about what charges it and what doesn't, probably the phone playing it safe with keeping the lithium in good condition.
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If i use the OE charger its fine but once i tired to use the USB port on my car stereo or cig lighter USB adapter it actually drained the battery and it wouldnt prompt a USB charging curtain notification but it would show the lighting bolt/battery icon. Or the notification curtain would display the last thing i used USB for like moving pictures instead of every other phone ive ever owned which would default to USB charging