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Hey guys,
need some help with my htc desire. Just bhought it couple of days back. Everything worked good, until today, as wifi turned itself off after 10-15 min on standby and automatically connects to 3G instead. Even if i turn on the wifi, it will say that the wifi is on, but its not actually connected I have to restart the phone for it to connect with wifi again. And the same thing goes over and over again. Has this happened to anyone?
Please help! :S
I have the orignal firmware, not rooted.
Sort of happening to me too, but after the phone is asleep for long periods, like overnight.
For the past few days, I leave it with WiFi on when I go to sleep, I wake up and WiFi was off. I switch it back on and the phone doesn't seem to use wifi, or it does but just hangs.
Only started happening after the last hard reset, was working fine before that.
I do have the sleep after 15mins setting on, but obviously that shouldnt switch off the wifi, just let it sleeps and should reconnect after waking up.
Waiting for a exchange for another phone due to another issue, but will keep an eye on this, might be the Setting Profile app I've installed that's causing the issue.
My wifi switched off by itself after going standby for sometime.
After I wake up the phone, it will reconnect to the wifi. Not sure if there's app to prevent the wifi from going into standby though.
myth1001 said:
My wifi switched off by itself after going standby for sometime.
After I wake up the phone, it will reconnect to the wifi. Not sure if there's app to prevent the wifi from going into standby though.
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I have been using the phone for 6 days now, before this my phone could be on wifi all night, and when turned on in the morning the wifi will still be connected. Its strange this should happen now. I installed juicedefender yesterday and than uninstalled it again after trying it..might this has affected my wifi settings.
That's weird. I did installed Juice Defender and uninstalled it as well. Not sure if that's the cause. will do some search and see what I can find out.
FOUND!
We can actually control the Wifi Sleep policy by going to Settings> Wireless & Networks> Wifi Settings> Menu >Advanced> Wifi sleep policy!
Change it to never and it should work as before.
myth1001 said:
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We can actually control the Wifi Sleep policy by going to Settings> Wireless & Networks> Wifi Settings> Menu >Advanced> Wifi sleep policy!
Change it to never and it should work as before.
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Yes, I know about that setting, but once you wake up the phone, it should wake the wifi and it should reconnect. This is not happening, and in some cases it does switch back on and connects, but doesn't get onto the internet. Seems the phone is still trying to use the cellular network.
Leave it on all the time eats up battery, so rather have it on sleep after 15mins
myth1001 said:
FOUND!
We can actually control the Wifi Sleep policy by going to Settings> Wireless & Networks> Wifi Settings> Menu >Advanced> Wifi sleep policy!
Change it to never and it should work as before.
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wow..ur fast..thanks! will try out this..and see until tomorrow if my phone is still shifting from 3g and wifi all the time
edit: yup..this was the reason. So now my wifi is connected 24/7 very happy for this as when it switched off before it started to use my 3G..i dont have unlimited plan so why pay for addional when u can use wifi at home
Edit: Use at your own risk, it worked for me but people seem to be saying it's not true.
I figured I would share this tip because it worked so well for me. When I first got the Nexus and connected it to my WiFi, the battery was draining at an absurd rate, even at idle. I want to use WiFi because we don't have LTE out here, so turning it on and off was a pain. Then I remembered the Sleep Policy, and there it was set to keep the WiFi on, even during sleep. I'm assuming Verizon did this to help reduce congestion on their network and save them money. After changing this to "only when plugged in" my battery graph at idle flatlined.
Hopefully it will help someone else!
Steps:
1. Settings
2. Wifi
3. Menu -> Advanced
4. Keep WiFi on during sleep
5. Pick an option best for you. I chose Only when plugged in.
From what I have read, keep wifi on during sleep was always the most power efficient. Maybe you have a weak wifi signal?
I'd like to hear what other people have to say on this one.
That's definitely interesting to hear. I'm usually one floor away from my wireless-N router which yields 3 or 4 out of 4 bars consistently. I guess I'll have to see if this works for anyone else then.
This is wrong.
You should set it to Always.
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-101-save-battery-keeping-wifi-alive
Because initiating wifi connection every time you turn on your phone will consume more power.
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I figured I would share this tip because it worked so well for me. When I first got the Nexus and connected it to my WiFi, the battery was draining at an absurd rate, even at idle. I want to use WiFi because we don't have LTE out here, so turning it on and off was a pain. Then I remembered the Sleep Policy, and there it was set to keep the WiFi on, even during sleep. I'm assuming Verizon did this to help reduce congestion on their network and save them money. After changing this to "only when plugged in" my battery graph at idle flatlined.
Hopefully it will help someone else!
Steps:
1. Settings
2. Wifi
3. Menu -> Advanced
4. Keep WiFi on during sleep
5. Pick an option best for you. I chose Only when plugged in.
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Well it significantly reduced my idle battery use (like at night), so I'll put a warning at the top but I'll keep mine the same.
I guess you haven't turned on the mobile data cause if you do, then this consumes more power than wifi for sure.
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Generally, radio management on the Nexus sucks. I want a setting where if it's in standby, ALL RADIOS ARE OFF except for base phone and text messaging. So this helps a little.
Sure, it uses more power initially to turn whatever on, but no where near as much if you don't use your phone for hours, and don't constantly need to be in sync with everything (like when you're at a computer all day, and you can check your gmail, yahoo mail, have gchat and skype and whatever).
I'd even like a setting policy which only turns on data or wifi when you have an app open that uses them.
I may be using my "phone" (my wife said about her Stratosphere, "I forgot I could use this thing as a phone") differently than most people with smartphones. I need it to be my computer and social device when I'm away from a computer, and only when I take it out of my pocket and turn it on.
Wifi set to always on, while at home. Slept for 9 hours, went down from 100% to 94%
andy2na said:
Wifi set to always on, while at home. Slept for 9 hours, went down from 100% to 94%
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Same here, with WLAN on my Nexus Prime drops about 6% over night.
Interestingly I just lost about 10% in 2 hours with the phone in stand-by but then I remembered I had to change my IP ~7 times in this time frame which likely caused a lot of WLAN activity and used up quite some energy.
So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
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So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
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Look and find out you can start by turning off wifi if not using it post your screen shots of battery use someone may help
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RubenRybnik said:
So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
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Try Menu/Settings/Wireless and Network/Wi-Fi Settings. Then press Menu/Advanced/Wi-Fi- sleep policy.
Play with those settings. You are probably set to "Never". Folks have actually been reporting better battery life with this setting (powering on and shutting down the wifi eats up battery) You can play around with it to get your own results.
Hit thanks if this helps!
pojieps said:
Try Menu/Settings/Wireless and Network/Wi-Fi Settings. Then press Menu/Advanced/Wi-Fi- sleep policy.
Play with those settings. You are probably set to "Never". Folks have actually been reporting better battery life with this setting (powering on and shutting down the wifi eats up battery) You can play around with it to get your own results.
Hit thanks if this helps!
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Ah...yes, it is set to never. So leaving it on "never" gets better results, say if you're at home and always have a wifi connection? Also, if the wi-fi is on, does that mean the device can't sleep I take it, that's what's keeping the device awake with screen off?
Thanks for the tip.
RubenRybnik said:
Ah...yes, it is set to never. So leaving it on "never" gets better results, say if you're at home and always have a wifi connection? Also, if the wi-fi is on, does that mean the device can't sleep I take it, that's what's keeping the device awake with screen off?
Thanks for the tip.
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I've heard both sides to this argument, and frankly I don't think most people understand why changing it does, or in other cases does not help.
I suspect that the answer to your issue isn't going to be found here. Here's the theory:
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - Never" results in better battery life for some; it's likely because these individuals have a fairly low 3g signal, which tends to draw more battery when periodic updates/synchronization occurs (e.g., gmail, calendar, facebook, etc.). By leaving wifi Sleep set to never, the wifi (which THEORETICALLY uses less power than 3g) can do the work instead.
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - When Screen is Off" can result in better battery life for a number of reasons, many of the underlying issues being hard to identify. For example, if your router tends to send a lot of 'noise' and wake up your phone, having wi-fi disabled will prevent this. Location services in the OS - which you've probably permitted to 'help locate you faster' - even when you are NOT connected to a wifi network - will periodically ping wireless networks around you to help facilitate faster geolocation. This uses battery as well.
But don't confuse the generalities that have spawned from people's anecdotal situations with what could be a very different problem.
Was your phone primarily located in one location during most of the 'awake' period? If so, then it was probably connected to the same router most of that time. If so, it really shouldn't matter what the setting was for Advanced Wifi - the phone should still sleep.
If you turn off wi-fi on the device, and the device then sleeps, then you've narrowed the issue some, but that is not a solution, because what are you going to do, not use wifi?
You've got to dig deeper; your issue may be any of the following - rogue app that keeps a wakelock, rogue app that updates too frequently, wifi modem issue, router issue, OS issue, etc.
In short, you need to figure out what's keeping the phone awake. Get CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to help you get insight into what's keeping the device awake.
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I've heard both sides to this argument, and frankly I don't think most people understand why changing it does, or in other cases does not help.
I suspect that the answer to your issue isn't going to be found here. Here's the theory:
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - Never" results in better battery life for some; it's likely because these individuals have a fairly low 3g signal, which tends to draw more battery when periodic updates/synchronization occurs (e.g., gmail, calendar, facebook, etc.). By leaving wifi Sleep set to never, the wifi (which THEORETICALLY uses less power than 3g) can do the work instead.
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - When Screen is Off" can result in better battery life for a number of reasons, many of the underlying issues being hard to identify. For example, if your router tends to send a lot of 'noise' and wake up your phone, having wi-fi disabled will prevent this. Location services in the OS - which you've probably permitted to 'help locate you faster' - even when you are NOT connected to a wifi network - will periodically ping wireless networks around you to help facilitate faster geolocation. This uses battery as well.
But don't confuse the generalities that have spawned from people's anecdotal situations with what could be a very different problem.
Was your phone primarily located in one location during most of the 'awake' period? If so, then it was probably connected to the same router most of that time. If so, it really shouldn't matter what the setting was for Advanced Wifi - the phone should still sleep.
If you turn off wi-fi on the device, and the device then sleeps, then you've narrowed the issue some, but that is not a solution, because what are you going to do, not use wifi?
You've got to dig deeper; your issue may be any of the following - rogue app that keeps a wakelock, rogue app that updates too frequently, wifi modem issue, router issue, OS issue, etc.
In short, you need to figure out what's keeping the phone awake. Get CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to help you get insight into what's keeping the device awake.
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Thank you for that very informative post. My phone was on my desk all day today( worked from home ) and wi-fi is set to always on, and it never slept, not even once.
I'll try disabling wi-fi( should have done this earlier to be honest and checked ) and then I'll download those apps, I just got Badass Battery Monitor, I'll check out the two you recommended as well. Thanks for the info!
Your phone should still go into deep sleep with wifi on. If it doesn't then you have something else wakelocking your phone. However, if wifi is set to never sleep, and wifi is enabled, the bar on the battery chart will always be solid blue.
So just installed CPU Spy, it looks like IM+ is the biggest user of wakelocks. I like to always be signed in to my accounts, but not at such a huge cost of battery, does anyone know of a better multi IM client that will push updates to you? I used to have IM+ on the iPhone( yea I know, just switched two months ago, and never looking back ) and the push on it worked great. The 'push' IM+ says it has is awful, most of the time I never get my IMs sent to me at all.
Also have skype signed on all the time, not sure if that is wakelock'ing anything, I'll have to keep an eye on it, it didn't show up on CPU Spy.
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
Capp5050 said:
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
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Thanks ... Giving it a try today, I'll let you know how it goes.
Capp5050 said:
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
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So been trying IMO the past couple days. Seems much better than IM+. Haven't seen any disconnects, I get my IMs about 30sec - 1min after the computer gets them, which is fine, and the wake-locking is extremely minimal. IM+ was awful with the wake-locking.
So that clears up the Always awake issue, flashed Blazer 3.8 last night, so can't comment on battery too much yet, also calibrating today.
RubenRybnik said:
So been trying IMO the past couple days. Seems much better than IM+. Haven't seen any disconnects, I get my IMs about 30sec - 1min after the computer gets them, which is fine, and the wake-locking is extremely minimal. IM+ was awful with the wake-locking.
So that clears up the Always awake issue, flashed Blazer 3.8 last night, so can't comment on battery too much yet, also calibrating today.
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Thanks for the feedback, glad to hear it helped, and I now feel a little more confident leaving my IM 'on' more often.
SOLVED: See this follow-up post; it's one of those 7 things!
Hi! After updating to LK3 (the stock 4.1.1 JB update), my Wi-Fi stays on even after I put the phone to sleep (contrary to the setting "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep: never (increases data usage)." See attached pics.
I have disabled thus far:
1) Google Now
2) Location Services "Use wireless networks" and "Location and Google search"
3) Location reporting: now set to "Location manually selected on the map"
4) Latitude location sharing
5) Location history
6) Automatic check-ins
7) Check-in notifications
Basically, everything I could find related to location. But, alas, that battery screenshot is after I changed all of those! Wi-Fi isn't on constantly, but it stays on way longer than just when I have the screen on.
What are my options here? How should I diagnose this sucker? I ran BetterBatteryStats, but they said it looked fine with my log (some apps, through the ambiguous "Alarms" partial wakelock, were the largest cause, but only accounted for 3.6% of the time).
I'm pretty sure this is a post-update problem, as before, whenever I unlocked my phone, I got the little notification, "Connected to #SSIDName#" and the Wi-Fi icon would obviously, then, be off for the first few seconds (and when I opened my browser too quickly, I'd get a "Page cannot be displayed" error).
Thanks in advance, I'll take any ideas/thoughts/help/sympathy/antipathy you can offer,
Same problem here. Before the update, it was doubletwist air sync forcing wifi on at all times. That's disabled now, so I have not clue. Hopefully somebody figures it out. Mine isn't even intermittent, it's always on, and I have the same setting as you.
So, I left my phone alone for the night and these programs used Wi-Fi while the screen was off:
Do you have any of the same apps? I'm going to uninstall Google+, Facebook, and GroupMe today and run this again tomorrow. But, looking at pure download amount, it's something on the OS....
If you're interested in doing the same, the app is My Data Manager ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/...e&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=my+data+manager).
Basically, install the app, but do not open it. When you're ready for bed (or any extended period of not using it), open it, and then minimize it (runs in the background). Hit your sleep button immediately (we don't want to capture anything of the phone when the screen is on). Then, when you wake up/need to use it, wake it up, immediately disable Wi-Fi (again, no artifacts from when the phone was awake), take a look at My Data Apps (2nd page), Wi-Fi.
I'll let you know how my second attempt goes.
The only one I have is Facebook, but yeah it definitely looks like the os.
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Well! Maybe I should have given it a little while longer, as it seems to be quite a bit better!
It still stays on longer than the screen, but now at least it shuts off once in a while, haha. It was either uninstalling Facebook, gMail, or GroupMe OR disabling one of those earlier settings...it's still not totally fixed, though. I found the Network Counter app which seems to be a little more specific, so we'll see how it goes tonight,
~Ibrahim~
Hmm this is what mine looks like from today. Wifi didn't go off until I did it manually.
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Have you disabled the location stuff? Those are what really helped me. I'm off to run the overnight test, with the new app!
i am having the same issues. my wifi since the jelly bean update has been always on.... the wifi bar in battery settings is solid and has never been off.... so frustrating.
Try "Green Power" app.
I use it to disable both wifi and data 20secs after screen off.
There is a Whitelist and a minimum threshold trigger too.
It works PERFECT in ICS.
At bedtime, I get .5% hr battery drain or better.
themadproducer said:
Try "Green Power" app.
I use it to disable both wifi and data 20secs after screen off.
There is a Whitelist and a minimum threshold trigger too.
It works PERFECT in ICS.
At bedtime, I get no less than .5% hr battery drain.
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Awesome, thanks for the info! Exactly, I don't mind Google Now using the Wi-Fi, but then that opens the door for everything to use the Wi-Fi which will kill the battery when I get back to work.
Network Manager didn't work for some reason, so I tried Data Detective, but the stupid app consumed 90% of the Wi-Fi last night!
The only thing I've heard against battery savers is that they force apps to not use the data, and then they keep asking (creating overhead). I wouldn't have believed it out right except it came from the developer of BetterBatteryStats. But your battery loss isn't bad at all (overnight I average 0.4%/hour with the screen off).
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(overnight I average 0.4%/hour with the screen off).
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I slightly edited my statement. I get .5% hr or better.
Curious...if you average .4%...
- what rom?
- and what is your lowest cpu freq?
- and is that with data and wifi off?
themadproducer said:
I slightly edited my statement. I get .5% hr or better.
Curious...if you average .4%...
- what rom?
- and what is your lowest cpu freq?
- and is that with data and wifi off?
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Haha, right, I thought that's what you meant!
I'm on stock AT&T. Everything is stock; CPU Spy tells me 384Mhz. WiFi on, data off.
Why don't you guys disable it in settings? Open Wi-Fi in settings. Click menu button. Click advanced. Turn off Wi-Fi during sleep. Ta-da!
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Why don't you guys disable it in settings? Open Wi-Fi in settings. Click menu button. Click advanced. Turn off Wi-Fi during sleep. Ta-da!
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Yeah, that's an alternative...but if I have a setting that's supposed to turn it off when it goes to sleep, I'd like it to do that.
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Yeah, that's an alternative...but if I have a setting that's supposed to turn it off when it goes to sleep, I'd like it to do that.
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That's right, well said....hence the opening post!
I have the same issue, wi-fi is always on unless I turn it off.
I'm happy. It's one of those location settings in the first post that caused the locks! Let me know if it works for you guys,
Hi, I saw many posts related to this topic Wi-Fi turns off when phone in deep sleep but not able to find a single working solution.
My phone runs on 4.2.1 with wi-fi sleep policy set to NEVER ( that means always on ideally ) , and tried turning on / off wifi optimization, avoid poor connections is not ticked.
Even after doing everything the wifi is turned off after sometime and when i turn on Screen it turns it back! How to do I solve this?? I am using STOCK rom, with just root.. No other battery saver etc. app installed.
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Hi, I saw many posts related to this topic Wi-Fi turns off when phone in deep sleep but not able to find a single working solution.
My phone runs on 4.2.1 with wi-fi sleep policy set to NEVER ( that means always on ideally ) , and tried turning on / off wifi optimization, avoid poor connections is not ticked.
Even after doing everything the wifi is turned off after sometime and when i turn on Screen it turns it back! How to do I solve this?? I am using STOCK rom, with just root.. No other battery saver etc. app installed.
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Set it to Never instead of Always. Its ass backwards.
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Set it to Never instead of Always. Its ass backwards.
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OP stated its already set to never
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well i have this problem too on every jelly bean rom. the only rom without this problem in cm10 stable. now i'm with cm10.1 hoping they'll fix it like in cm10.
when that problem comes out just toggle on and off airplane mode and it should disappear until next wifi toggle off and on.
I hope google will solve it in key lime pie
CM 10.1 has only just started doing this in the last week or so, it was fine before. Was wondering if it was just me with this issue or not...
emptyragnarok said:
Hi, I saw many posts related to this topic Wi-Fi turns off when phone in deep sleep but not able to find a single working solution.
My phone runs on 4.2.1 with wi-fi sleep policy set to NEVER ( that means always on ideally ) , and tried turning on / off wifi optimization, avoid poor connections is not ticked.
Even after doing everything the wifi is turned off after sometime and when i turn on Screen it turns it back! How to do I solve this?? I am using STOCK rom, with just root.. No other battery saver etc. app installed.
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Am i correct in understanding that you don't want it to disconnect? The option in the settings is "Keep wifi on during sleep". If you have it at Never, then it will disconnect when the phone goes into sleep. It should be placed on Always because you want it to be on even during sleep
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fixed the wifi problem
Heya! My first post!!!
So, i had the same problem on my Allview P5 Quad.
The guys from Allview released an update for my phone based on 4.2.1 and i thought the problem was from them. I had WiFi turned on and after a few minutes from entering sleep mode, the WiFi got disconnected, both WiFi and data. I have installed the last update again and again, rooted, unrooted, tried every option from WiFi and i still had the same problem.
So i timed the time when the WiFi disconnects and it was exactly 6 minutes. So i thought that it must be an option that does this. So i unchecked the Quick Power Saving icon from Switches and ... SURPRISE! My WiFi stays on continuously. So, the problem is from the system power saving settings. I hope this helps all of you.
P.S. Love this forum! Thanks for all your help!
I believe I found the problem, some how it is not the phone but my wifi router (and all routers) is the problem. Go into your router settings and look for the "Beacon Interval" and set that number to 50. I'm not going to explain what the beacon interval is, go google it and you will see. I switched mine and now the wifi on my phone does not switch off when in deep sleep.