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Why ruin that big beautiful screen by using on screen nav buttons..

Why did Samsung do this... Its like any other 4.3" screen with those buttons on the bottom.. Can you hide these buttons all together fir certain apps to take some advantage of that gorgeous screen? Namely the browser?

just videos it auto hides on stock rom.
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It would be awesome if you could toggle the virtual keys, that's what I thought they were intended for, not just to watch some damn videos. Pretty disappointed in that aspect as well.

To standardize the button layout on Android devices (home, search, back, menu)
@wonshikee: You can always make a rooted app / mod to do that. Androids open source.

Do games hide the buttons or are they still there? Sounds like Samsung didn't think this through..

Diversion said:
Do games hide the buttons or are they still there? Sounds like Samsung didn't think this through..
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It was Google's idea. Samsung just made the device with the hardware asked by Google. This is how they do all Nexus devices.
You're acting like this is a new concept. It isn't. It was on honeycomb tablets and no one seemed to mind it.

Diversion said:
Why did Samsung do this... Its like any other 4.3" screen with those buttons on the bottom.. Can you hide these buttons all together fir certain apps to take some advantage of that gorgeous screen? Namely the browser?
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Sometimes I wonder if anybody researches at all before buying this phone...
Apps have to be specifically designed to go to full screen mode to hide the buttons, with the restriction that ANY user interaction brings the buttons back to the visible state. Hence, games or the browser would not be able to effectively hide the buttons.
Think of it this way: say you're playing a game, and it locks up. If there's no home button, you're forced to reboot.

You can enable full screen browser. Games do not. get rid of the buttons.

Instead of saying why ruin the screen with nav buttons.. You should be saying why ruin the screen by using a pentile submatrix .

zetsumeikuro said:
Instead of saying why ruin the screen with nav buttons.. You should be saying why ruin the screen by using a pentile submatrix .
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From what I read, Samsung isn't currently capable of creating a 4.65" 720P Super AMOLED plus display. Technology simply isn't there so they had to resort to a 720P super AMOLED pentile submatrix display.

Bobb_o said:
You can enable full screen browser. Games do not. get rid of the buttons.
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The full screen brower mode simply hides the status bar (and possibly minimizes the soft buttons) but it does not hide them entirely.

On screen buttons offer the benefit of when you rotate the screen, the buttons rotate with you. They are always on the bottom and in the same order.

Return it. Done. No more drama.
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zephiK said:
It was Google's idea. Samsung just made the device with the hardware asked by Google. This is how they do all Nexus devices.
You're acting like this is a new concept. It isn't. It was on honeycomb tablets and no one seemed to mind it.
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Except tablet screens are massive so nothing is really lost, the difference between a 4.3" and 4.65" is much bigger.

The display on this phone rocks and I love the on screen buttons. Its nice to have consistency in the feel of the interactions with the UI including the "buttons".
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the buttons dont bother me , but it is annoying when they turn into the three little dots. Sometimes I forget which buttons where esp. in landscape and 1 click and you hit home instead of back. They should have made it a 2 step process. Push any1 of the dots and the buttons appear then you push a button to go where you want- Or at least make it a setting to be like this

I personally thought it would suck but fortunately i haven't had problems with it. I do wonder who and/or what will come up with some kind of toggle for it.
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@rbiter said:
I personally thought it would suck but fortunately i haven't had problems with it. I do wonder who and/or what will come up with some kind of toggle for it.
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I also thought it would suck and was gutted when Google announced it, but it has helped me realize why Google dominate they certainly "know their ****" ... the buttons look cool and I love the developer options that it leaves open, eg the great work that paul has already started

DPI changer....the first thing I'm going to do on this badboy

Hmmm...I like the GN button design!
I guess go buy a GS2 and wait for ICS...just saying.

[REQ] Always show clock?

Hi,
To check the time, I don't like having to switch on the screen with the power button, setting off the weather animation on Sense lockscreen. It's a bit awkward and uses battery unnecessarily.
So, my request to any dev is this;
Is it possible to keep the portion of the screen where the small clock is (in the top right) on all the time? Even when the rest of the screen is off, the clock stays visible ALL the time.
Not sure if it would create problems with battery usage, screen burn?
Any thoughts?

Change it to clock. Very simple.
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From what i understand, you want the screen to be on all the times but partially (just the top rlght). I think that's technically impossible.

Download "NoLed" by madmack from the market. It's an excellent app and has exactly what you are looking for plus a lot of other cool stuff.

qaliza said:
Download "NoLed" by madmack from the market. It has exactly what you are looking for plus alot other cool stuff.
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+1, you hit the nail on the head. I use this on my Sgs2, and it works well.
Regards

I'm quite sure that this will use more battery than turning the screen on once in a while for a few seconds

Wrong section and its more of a [Q] than a [REQ]

NoLed is a really good app, but it doesn't do what i'm requesting. When NoLed is active, if you look at the screen at the correct angle, you can see that the whole screen is on. Thank you tho
I'm trying to establish if it's possible to make only the pixels covering the clock area (in the notification bar) to stay on. This way the clock is always visible, and not much battery is drained(????)

That would only work on AMOLED screens.
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qaliza said:
Download "NoLed" by madmack from the market. It's an excellent app and has exactly what you are looking for plus a lot of other cool stuff.
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That would only be beneficial to those who have AMOLED screens.
I am pretty sure the HTC Ace has a 480*800 LCD, and I don't think it is possible to shut down different areas of the screen without hardware mods.
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ok, guess it ain't happening then....

maybe try using the desk clock, to my knowledge you use that and then u can press the powerbutton but all u see is the time and whatever else u set

[Q] [O?] Soft-buttons redundancy on ICS ports, EVO 4G

Greetings all. This is actually a question that does not require a specific answer but rather your personal opinion.
1.) In the ICS Ports for your EVO 4G, do you think the Soft-buttons docked at the bottom of the screen (Home, menu, back) are redundant considering the phone already has these buttons (Home, Menu, Back, Search) on a dedicated space right below the screen?
To me it's as if we are wasting a good peace of screen real estate having these buttons overlaying everything once more since we already have the space phsyically set apart for them. I sometimes hit the dedicated 'buttons' on accident when my fingers are wondering in the lower screen area in certain apps, I can imagine that this would happen even more so with the second set of soft buttons.
I've stayed with CM7 (7.2 RC0) because of this...
Thanks
-RM

totally agree with you bro, just a waste of our evo space

Most if not all ics roms have the on-screen navigation bar either disabled or optional in settings, so I'm not sure what your complaint is. If you don't want them turn them off, or use a rom with them removed
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Most if not all ics roms have the on-screen navigation bar either disabled or optional in settings, so I'm not sure what your complaint is. If you don't want them turn them off, or use a rom with them removed
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Aja! That's all I needed to hear... Going to try it. I figured it was on by default since most (would love to say all) screenshots show the extra-soft buttons "on", therefore never actually made an attempt to try.

Yeah, I agree, I never enable them. Seems like a waste to to me.
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On my evo I don't use em on my et4g I do use them they are nice on the et4g and still plenty of room I have them set at 36dpi height instead of 48 and my LCD density set to 200 instead of 240 was at 190 but it was a tad small font wise for my eyes
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Wake phone with screen gesture ?

Hi all,
I saw some great stuff to wake phone swyping directly on the screen, like PGM on play store (for Evo 3D and Galaxy Nexus), and was wondering if would be possible to have it for my One X.
I was using Faux kernel including S2W, and really liked it, but I think it would be better/easier/more useful if we can wake touching the screen, not the 3 buttons.
Also, for exemple in Nova Launcher, there is the option to launch an app making other gestures than swype, like pinch or rotate. Do you think it would be possible to wake the phone just pinchin screen when off ? What about battery drain ? Lot of users had complaints about S2W draining the battery, but I didn't noticed a big difference with or without this feature.
Do you think a feature like this would be useful ? Technically, is it realistic ?
Sorry for poor english :silly:

nobody has any idea or interest in such feature? I think it would be great to have the possibility to pinch the screen to wake it, so easier than swiping over the buttons, and with less fails. And I don't think that kind of gesture could be easily done while phone is in the pocket.
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Hello, great idea but not so "feasible" easilly ... imo
How do you swype on a screen which is not activated ?
You will let the screen always activated ? I don't think the battery will appreciate.
Maybe you can activate the touch screen without the display screen
but that should surely need a kernel modification if it's not "hardware" locked.
The only app i see that make something very similar is Tap Tap Tap
and it uses the proximity sensor ...
PS : I never achieved to make Tap Tap Tap work correctly each time i Tap Tap

Yes, kernel modification should be needed, the Evo 3D app PGM is a kernel module. I emailed the developer, who explained that he logically can't develop apps for devices that he hasn't got. But if it works in Evo 3D and Galaxy Nexus, it surely can be developed for One X.
His app does not seems to drain too much battery. Anyway, if it is possible to make it using 2-fingers gestures like pinch or rotate, maybe it should be possible too to only activate the screen when there is this double contact. I don't really understand about development, but had read something like S2W was not draining battery because of activation only when the 2nd button was touched.
Tap Tap is not compatible with ICS 4.0.4, can't try it...
But many comments say that it drains battery a lot, and can easily wake screen when in pocket, so it's more like an option you punctually use I think.

Well, only 10 votes, but 60% love the idea.
Would be a great feature included in future ViperX 2.0 rom
(subliminal message sent to Venom Team)

You might want to have a look at this application: Wake On Gesture

team.fluxion said:
You might want to have a look at this application: Wake On Gesture
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A very nice mod you have here ... love it

ckpv5 said:
A very nice mod you have here ... love it
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indeed, something different =D

[Q] How does "Epic 4G Settings (EpicParts)" work?

Preface: I've asked about how to disable capacitive backlights on stock TW ROMs, and now I independently found half of the answer.
By looking inside EpicParts.apk from CM-based ROMs, I obtained the position of soft key "device": /sys/devices/virtual/sec/t_key , and by modding the file "brightness" under it, capacitive key backlight turn off.
However, on TW ROMs this never persists no matter how I set the permission / owner, while on Incredible S, after modding I can mod the permission to r--r----- to prevent system from reverting this setting.
Plus, on pre-CM10 era ROMs, "Epic 4G Settings" is there but even if I disable the backlight, it always light on for a wee second every time I unlock, which is pretty annoying as I use onscreen keys heavily.
Digging further into CM10's EpicParts (which can totally turn backlight off, regardless of unlock), it seems that it creates two files under the folder, "touchleds_disable" and "touchleds_voltage", but I don't know how this behaves, nor can I imitate the behaviour.
So... it'll be appreciated if anyone can explain to me how EpicParts (of JB) works and how I can reproduce its effects. Thanks all
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I don't really have an answer to your question but I have a question for you lol. What you did disabled the lights completely? Like even the little flash they give when they are pressed on? They're just completely off?
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lilajrestnom said:
I don't really have an answer to your question but I have a question for you lol. What you did disabled the lights completely? Like even the little flash they give when they are pressed on? They're just completely off?
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Yes, that's the effect I'm looking for, and by now only CM10 and PA 2.5+ can do that; however, if I choose to disable them completely, the "Recent Apps" view will automatically pop up randomly, and I dunno why
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