Hello fellow Canadian GSIII owners: please see below and note which forum you should be looking in for ROMs for your devices:
AT&T forum: SGH-I747 (AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus and SaskTel)
T-Mobile forum: SGH-T999 (T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity and Videotron)
Sprint forum: SPH-L710 (Sprint only)
Verizon forum: SGH-I535 (Verizon only)
Developers, please put carrier support in the title of your threads. Thank you!
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Hello XDA,
Can we please get an android development forum for Rogers, Bell, Telus and Wind? Rogers/Bell/Telus phones are SGH-I747M and the Wind version is the SGH-T999, but they all have different basebands and stock ROMs. Trying to put Canadian threads in AT&T and Sprint forums will result in a big mess.
Alternatively, instead of separating by carrier, separate by model number. Keep all the I747 development threads in one forum and T999 threads in another. Then people can put the carrier into the title of the post.
Just something to think about.
Thanks!
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
TLS2000 said:
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
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Indeed it is. I stand corrected.
TLS2000 said:
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
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and the Rogers is the same as AT&T's
historically Rogers and AT&T have been interchangeable in almost every aspect on all the devices they shared. Rogers uses the exact same frequencies as AT&T, and the devices are the same aside from some minor differences in bloat, lte toggle, and native wifi tether
What about the Telus, does that fall under at&t also?
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I agree very hard to follow on what is for which phone, not going to take any chances until things are a little more clear. Still have the old S1 to mess with.
rail205 said:
What about the Telus, does that fall under at&t also?
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I agree very hard to follow on what is for which phone, not going to take any chances until things are a little more clear. Still have the old S1 to mess with.
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AT&T, Rogers, Bell and Telus have the same phone, the SGH-I747. But just because it's the same hardware does not mean it's the same software. It may or may not have different basebands and certainly has different carrier customizations. As Pirateghost mentioned, AT&T removes some features in its ROM (software), the most important being, at least for me, the ability to tether. So if you flash a rooted AT&T ROM on your Canadian device, it will most likely work but you will lose features(!) That's why we need to be very clear about what carrier each ROM is for. Furthermore, if you flash the wrong baseband (i.e. flash a Rogers baseband on a Bell phone), your phone may not work as a phone or it may connect to the wrong network and you will be charged roaming fees. At the moment, I can see that AT&T has a different baseband version from Bell, but Rogers and Bell seem to have the same baseband version. Are they interchangeable? I have no idea. Anyway, it's better not to mix these things up. That's why separate forums are a great idea.
As a SaskTel customer coming from the international i9000, these forums are very confusing and not very organized. I would definitely support more organization.
I guarantee that you won't roam on the other carrier if you flash the wrong baseband (Telus/Bell/Rogers). They don't have roaming agreements in place to allow that. That's why you won't get service with Rogers in some areas where Bell does have service.
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I guarantee that you won't roam on the other carrier if you flash the wrong baseband (Telus/Bell/Rogers). They don't have roaming agreements in place to allow that. That's why you won't get service with Rogers in some areas where Bell does have service.
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That is how it was with the i9000. If I flashed the wrong baseband (for example, a US modem that did not support 850 band), I would just have no reception when I left the city.
Sasktel, Bell, Rogers, Telus all have the AT&T version with tethering left in.
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That is how it was with the i9000. If I flashed the wrong baseband (for example, a US modem that did not support 850 band), I would just have no reception when I left the city.
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OK. Either way, flashing the wrong baseband is a bad idea.
Pirateghost said:
and the Rogers is the same as AT&T's
historically Rogers and AT&T have been interchangeable in almost every aspect on all the devices they shared. Rogers uses the exact same frequencies as AT&T, and the devices are the same aside from some minor differences in bloat, lte toggle, and native wifi tether
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Except this time around, it seems that there is a slight difference between the two in terms of software, and enough so that I've read posts of people having issues when using at&t based stuff on their rogers phones.
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Except this time around, it seems that there is a slight difference between the two in terms of software, and enough so that I've read posts of people having issues when using at&t based stuff on their rogers phones.
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I've been here before with the vivid, skyrocket, and the one x. You can ignore anything I say but I HAVE dealt with this stuff before.
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So is it safe to say that you can flash the Stock Rom or Custom ROMs for T-Mobile T999 on Wind Mobile's T999V. And at most you lose Roaming and/or a few features?
I already see that there is one or two ROMs that are confirmed for multiple carriers.
A dedicated Canadian Forum is a great idea! There is so much information floating around out there with the multiple variations of the sgs3.
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I've been here before with the vivid, skyrocket, and the one x. You can ignore anything I say but I HAVE dealt with this stuff before.
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As a Rogers user (and relatively new to Android) it freaks the hell out of me to flash custom ROMs based on the AT&T version, because I'm sure I *will* lose tethering and the ability to turn off LTE.
That's the stupid thing - it'd be rather simple to have subforums dedicated to the canadian devices, because the software is different (not only the bloatware, but apparently some more stuff too) and the baseband is also different, which could lead to problems down the line, no?
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As a Rogers user (and relatively new to Android) it freaks the hell out of me to flash custom ROMs based on the AT&T version, because I'm sure I *will* lose tethering and the ability to turn off LTE.
That's the stupid thing - it'd be rather simple to have subforums dedicated to the canadian devices, because the software is different (not only the bloatware, but apparently some more stuff too) and the baseband is also different, which could lead to problems down the line, no?
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If a rom is done the right way you won't lose any functionality. You can't honestly believe that at&t users don't want those features. I prefer to build all my roms from a rogers base for the simple reason that it is less work for that functionality.
PS. Any rom dev should know better than to force a modem/radio/baseband change on their users.
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Sasktel, Bell, Rogers, Telus all have the AT&T version with tethering left in.
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That might be true but if you check your firmware versions, they aren't the same as AT&T's.
Also, I have flashed most of the international radio's on my older I9100 and never had a problem in Canada or US when travelling. They may not be customized for that country but they do work.
I PMd one of the mods with a link to this thread. There seems to be interest in a forum for Canadian carriers, so let's see if we can make it happen.
By the way thanks to everyone chiming in with their two cents. I am not a developer, and although I've been around xda a while, it was always as a user. I''ve written a guide or two on how to root and flash devices, but it was always based on other people's work. So I am learning all this as I go along.
I come from the desire z/g2 forums. G2 is t mobile, The desire z is run on multiple networks globally. Baseband are set by the phone, not the radio (I think that is the same thing as a modern?). On my Desire z running on Rogers, I flashed T-Mobile radios and international radios which worked on Rogers no problem.
Features of a rom are determined by the dev, if you don't like something, flash something else or restore your nandroid backup. Read the op and ask the dev if you are unsure about any features on a Rom.
I would think the only models that should be separated in forums are the international version, totally different processor and maybe Verizon cdma. From a sheer volume of users standpoint, further division is warranted. You think this is bad, wait until Verizon and At&t widely launch, this current setup will be complete chaos.
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Hi all. I was hoping someone could explain why there is so little development on the N7105. Is there something about LTE that makes it harder to develop for?
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Hi all. I was hoping someone could explain why there is so little development on the N7105. Is there something about LTE that makes it harder to develop for?
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I would rather say that the problem is that it is a "special model". The N7100 is the "standard model" that has broad availability and can be considered as the main product (compare with i9100, i9300, N7000 etc). Most users and developers buy the N7100 rather than the more restricted N7105 (that is a bit more of a carrier model, carriers without LTE etc offers the N7100).
I hope that it will change with the Note III but that means that the "N7200" (probable name) should have LTE - i.e. no more special editions - just ONE version for all. As long as LTE products are more of special versions with a heavy reliance on carriers, they will have less adaption than the more common HSPA model.
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I would rather say that the problem is that it is a "special model". The N7100 is the "standard model" that has broad availability and can be considered as the main product (compare with i9100, i9300, N7000 etc). Most users and developers buy the N7100 rather than the more restricted N7105 (that is a bit more of a carrier model, carriers without LTE etc offers the N7100).
I hope that it will change with the Note III but that means that the "N7200" (probable name) should have LTE - i.e. no more special editions - just ONE version for all. As long as LTE products are more of special versions with a heavy reliance on carriers, they will have less adaption than the more common HSPA model.
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Sum up about it! And since N7100 was out before the 4G, people got it before N7105 thus the lack of support, I was considering changing to N7105 of it ever released with bigger storage, but seeing the support is serious lacking, I've decided not to do it.
You could customise N7100 custom roms to flash for N7105, there's a thread for that and people reported got it working and everything.
You can also check the ATT Note 2 thread as there are several roms based on N7105 (with no modem).
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I wouldn't lose faith yet nattychris,
Those of us in Japan have only this week had our SC-02E version of the Galaxy Note 2 rooted.
I noticed that at least a couple of roms have been added or updated within the last 7 days for the N7105.
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Hi there,
It started with when I bought int. version N7100 from Amazon.com. I live in Canada and use WIND mobile. So I inserted my SIM and it didn't work! I sent Note 2 back to the seller, and get refunded soon. So, basically, I'm sort of noob here, and have a noob question. Sorry, but need your help.
Now, I want to give a try to purchase N7105 or SGH-T889V (from Mobilcity, cuz it is cheaper) version, and use it with my WIND sim card.
1) Will N7105 work with WIND AWS band right away or do I have to root and flash WIND modem for it?
2) Same question as in 1) but for Mobilcity Note 2 (but I guess it will work right away without any software modification. I want just to make sure).
3) After 3-4 months I'm moving to USA (more likely) or Europe (depending my job offer), and going to get sim card from some local carrier. Which model, N7105 or SGH-T889V, covers more network?
4) As far as I understand SGH-T889V fully supports what N7105 supports, but not vice versa, am I right?
If you want to use your Note 2 on Wind then the T889V is the one you want. It's also possible to flash a radio hack on the Bell/Rogers/Telus version to get AWS HSPA. However, the T889V does not have LTE officially.
For travelling, , 7105 will be your best bet in Europe as it will support every carrier there and you will get LTE if the carriers support it. The T889V will be better for the States as it supports AWS HSPA on Tmobile, however still no LTE.
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I saw on the internet people using N7105 with Bell, Telus, and Rogers with full LTE potential. And my question 1) still holds. Is it possible to do that? Even if it is possible, will it be same quality connection/performance as native (T889V) Note2?
But according wikipeadia, T889V supports some LTE bands. Maybe after flashing the modem, as you said, it will be compatible Bell/Rogers/Telus.
Now, I'm coming to conclusion that both of them work with almost all major North American carrier with full potential, while N7105 also is gonna support EU carriers. So, it is sort of N7105 > SGH-T889V, i.e. is N7105 way to go?
Hey guys.
I have had some issues with my note 2.
I had an open Samsung model GTN7105T and I swapped it with the N7105 as it's the "international" version as I thought I may have dramas rooting and installing custom roms etc.
Now, it could just be me or I didn't notice properly when I had the the T variant but it seems I'm getting less signal with the non T variant. Could this even be possible? I'm under the impression no, as it's basically the same handset in every way.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thanks in advance.
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Lambetts said:
Hey guys.
I have had some issues with my note 2.
I had an open Samsung model GTN7105T and I swapped it with the N7105 as it's the "international" version as I thought I may have dramas rooting and installing custom roms etc.
Now, it could just be me or I didn't notice properly when I had the the T variant but it seems I'm getting less signal with the non T variant. Could this even be possible? I'm under the impression no, as it's basically the same handset in every way.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thanks in advance.
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Bump bump bump! Haha.
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as far as I can tell from looking around, it has different radio configuration tailored for Australian telecommunications networks, this would account for the worse signal.
I have samsung galaxy note 2 LTE n7105T ,on 4.1.2 I have no use of LTE as it is not in our country . A update 4.3 came of model n7105, can i install rom of n7105 in n7105t ?
PLZ HELP ASAP
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Hi Guys, I've got some questions I'm hoping I can have addressed. I purchased a Galaxy S3 LTE (SGH-T999L) from T-Mobile awhile ago & i'm happy with the device. I am aware that the original model, SGH-T999 didn't come with LTE, however my confusion lies in that I've heard that with the 4.1.2 update, the T999 now supports LTE, but I've heard people say it doesn't.
My concern is that I am interested in rooting & installing a custom rom on my S3 LTE. I've seen some roms state that they support my model #, but in one rom I watched a review/install video for it & in the video, that specific rom only listed the SGH-T999 model, the non-lte variant.
I'm pretty confident in the knowledge that if I flashed a T999 rom, it would work on my device, however I'm uncertain on if I would lose the LTE functionality.
Thank you guys for sharing your wisdom
I don't think so
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Hi Guys, I've got some questions I'm hoping I can have addressed. I purchased a Galaxy S3 LTE (SGH-T999L) from T-Mobile awhile ago & i'm happy with the device. I am aware that the original model, SGH-T999 didn't come with LTE, however my confusion lies in that I've heard that with the 4.1.2 update, the T999 now supports LTE, but I've heard people say it doesn't.
My concern is that I am interested in rooting & installing a custom rom on my S3 LTE. I've seen some roms state that they support my model #, but in one rom I watched a review/install video for it & in the video, that specific rom only listed the SGH-T999 model, the non-lte variant.
I'm pretty confident in the knowledge that if I flashed a T999 rom, it would work on my device, however I'm uncertain on if I would lose the LTE functionality.
Thank you guys for sharing your wisdom
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I don't think you would as it's a hardwear difference between the T999 and the T999L. As long as you have the LTE APN it should work, although the ROM may not show you have an LTE connection. You will have the speed but the ROM will just register it as 4G or HSPA+. But I'm not completely sure. I would make a nandroid to go back to just in case, and then see if you can get LTE speeds on your rom.
All of your questions have already been addressed in the T999L thread. Link in sig.
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