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Desire 2.4 and 3.0

Hi there. I have been thinking, if there is android 2.4 rom for HTC Desire. I am using cyanogen mod 7 (2.3.3) and I am satisfied with it, but I want the latest one. And also is there any stable release of honeycomb around there?
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The simple answer for both questions is "No".
2.3 is the latest, 2.4 probably won't be out sometime. If it were you'd see it in the dev section.
Honeycomb is for tablets. If you want it, buy a tablet. There are devs working on porting it to the Desire, but to be honest, I don't see the point.

2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3

Thank you very much. I will buy tablet with honeycomb, but I just wanted to try it out on my Desire. And I thought 2.4 was for every phone, but thanks for correcting me.

bob1369 said:
2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3
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Sorry, but no
Probable, 2.4 will be a first implementation of some of the 3.0 features to phones, not only for dual core phones!! Im pretty sure that HTC will release a 2.4 for Desire.

bob1369 said:
2.4 is 2.3 for dual core phones (not desire) 3.0 is 2.3 for tablet both are pointless on desire you would notice no difference to 2.3
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Looks to me like thats pure assumption. 2.3 is not 3.0.
Neither is 2.4 2.3 for dual cores.
It is speculated that 2.4 will support dual core phones.
However there is nothing officially stating any of the above, so I'm not sure where this info of yours comes from.

3.0 was built from scratch purely for tablets, it has absolutely nothing to do with any previous version.
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Barnabas4ever said:
Hi there. I have been thinking, if there is android 2.4 rom for HTC Desire. I am using cyanogen mod 7 (2.3.3) and I am satisfied with it, but I want the latest one. And also is there any stable release of honeycomb around there?
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it is possible to flash the honeycomb port to your desire if you desperatelty want 2 test it al though allotta features wont work. but if u r in it just to get a look at honeycomb, give her a try

Terepin said:
3.0 was built from scratch purely for tablets, it has absolutely nothing to do with any previous version.
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Where do you get this from? It's certainly not built from scratch. A couple of devs even think that the reason Google is not releasing the source code of 3.0 is because it's just a bunch of hacks.

2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's

Afaik Google renamed version 2.4 you saw on a device on mwc in Barcelona to 2.3.3 because there were too little changes from the first release of gingerbread on the nexus s to "2.4"
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bob1369 said:
2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's
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Pure speculation.
Source?

mr_norris said:
Pure speculation.
Source?
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Engadget claimed HTC were describing ll their phones as 2.3 when some actually run a version normally referred to as 2.4 they said this was to avoid confusion, personally i would have called them all 2.4

bob1369 said:
Engadget claimed HTC were describing ll their phones as 2.3 when some actually run a version normally referred to as 2.4 they said this was to avoid confusion, personally i would have called them all 2.4
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if im still wrong im sorry but i do know the difference isn't great

bob1369 said:
2.3 and 2.4 are so similar that some manufacturers don't bother differentiating between them it's mainly sn update for developers and compatibility with 3.0 which is simply for larger screens e.g. ui changes and modified api's
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2.4 is nothing more than 2.3 with dual-core support. And it isn't out yet.

Im sure we will get an icecream port which is just like honeycomb for phones.
this is a quote out of some news i read. some of you probably already know this
but for those that dont this could be usefull :
Details on Ice Cream
According to an interview between PhoneScoop and Google Android Engineering Director Dave Burke, Ice Cream will bring Honeycomb's "Action Bar" to Gingerbread. This is the bar that brings the contextual, app-specific buttons to the top of the screen.
Burke also said that Honeycomb's "System Bar" (the bar at the bottom) may not come to phones, but would remain a tablet-only feature. The hologram-esque visual styling found in Honeycomb will arrive in Ice Cream, though, as will Honeycomb's multi-tasking app switcher functionality.

Xiaomi Phone is 1.5GHz dual-core to cost $310..

You guys Probably Didnt have a look at this.. Its even cheaper than our Desire...
The Xiaomi Phone packs stunning amounts of power for its price - a Qualcomm 8260 Snapdragon chipset with a dual-core 1.5GHz CPU, Adreno 220 graphics and 1GB of RAM. The battery packs plenty of juice, 1930mAh to be precise. That should be enough for two days of real life usage (real real life Xiaomi say).
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_phone_is_15ghz_dualcore_droid_from_china_to_cost_310-news-3007.php

Apparently seems a great phone, especially for the price and the battery (if its not a fake battery )
http://miuiandroid.com/2011/08/mi-one-specifications/
Hardware:
- Unlocked bootloader!
- Android 2.3.5 pre-loaded (MIUI ROM)
- Sharp capacitive 4 inch screen at 480 x 854 res 16:9
- Dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon S3 (MSM8260)
- 4GB ROM
- 1GB RAM
- Up to 32GB Micro-SD card support
- 8MP Rear Camera
- Noise-cancelling microphone
- 1930mAH battery! +30% on standard 1500mAH
- GPS (U.S. GPS and Russian GLONASS
- Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n) and Bluetooth connectivity
- 266MHz Adreno220 GPU
- 125 * 63 * 11.9 (mm)
- GSM / WCDMA bands
http://twitter.com/#!/miuiandroid/statuses/103555433054220288
Pre-ordering for MI-ONE (china) from 29th August, Shipping expected mid-September to early October, no word on Worldwide distribution "yet"
In my opinion maybe it's better wait the next generation phones based on Ice Cream Sandwhich (2.4?)

andQlimax said:
In my opinion maybe it's better wait the next generation phones based on Ice Cream Sandwhich (2.4?)
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Ice Cream Sandwich is version 4 and not 2.4. Honeycomb is version 3.

MatDrOiD said:
Ice Cream Sandwich is version 4 and not 2.4. Honeycomb is version 3.
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Yeah i know that honeycomb is 3 lol, but heard also some rumors about 2.4 as Ice Cream..Honeycomb is an exception (tablet only)..But probably u are right..we will see

I am just thinking if its Based on MIUI Roms, then it wont have Official googel Support too?

Woah, this phones pretty amazing for the price! 8mp camera to on it! and a really fast processor on it! 1GB of RAM, 4GB of ROM! Woah. Although my worry is for that price is it all really up to all good quality? Eg like is the camera any good and touchscreen and that.

nice hardware

Yup! I like also the specs but too bad I am waiting for quads not duals...hehehehe...sticking with my current Desire...

Only one shortcoming
If this Phone came with WP7, then I would order one...

amazing
you can get 2.5 xiaomi phones for the price of a galaxy s II with similar specs ( except for a 1.5ghz processor vs 1.2 ghz).. how cool is that?? value for money is definetely an understatement.. I mean even galaxy ace costs more than this beast.. 800 mhz vs 1.5ghz dual core.. that is 800*4=3200.. so nearly 4 times the speed, 4 times the RAM, 8 times the ROM, 1.5 times the battery, 2 times the resolution.. value for money has a new meaning now..

andQlimax said:
In my opinion maybe it's better wait the next generation phones based on Ice Cream Sandwhich (2.4?)
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Why if you can get a hold of this one? It's running miui which is updated to the most reason Android version very quickly. You'll likely get updates faster than anyone else and ics before any phones are released with it.

mortenmhp said:
Why if you can get a hold of this one? It's running miui which is updated to the most reason Android version very quickly. You'll likely get updates faster than anyone else and ics before any phones are released with it.
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Ya, but when ics will come out, new phone with new hardware and new features will appear..also the next google nexus..
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nice hardware specs and you can expect regular updates from miui and most probably fast android 2.4 update when it is released

Yeah right. The goodness stops there I persume
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Worried about the quality of the hardware, probably why its so cheap
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I'll buy one if they are made available in the EU but I will hang on to my Desire as well just in case

Personally I'd rather wait for the new Nexus before I make up my mind, which of them two will succeede my good ol' Desire...
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I do not trust the Chinese

Ewkert said:
I do not trust the Chinese
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What handset do you use now?
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Ewkert said:
I do not trust the Chinese
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90% of everything in ur house is made in china

[Q]Logical upgrade for the Desire?

What would be a logical upgrade from my desire?
i'm looking for a new phone, but all i really want is a desire with a bigger screen and preferably a dual core processor (OFC as it is a new phone i expect it to be updated to ICS, is this expectation wrong)
What is also important for me would be the modding community, there are so many people modding the desire, with so many roms, and awesome mods. I hope for something near that in a new device.
I don't really care if it's from the US or EU, as long as it works on the GSM band we use in denmark. but it would be nice if it was available in the US as they are usually cheaper over there.
What would be a logical upgrade from the desire?

So it said... You want an HTC phone with dual-core processor? As for now it's HTC Sensation & Sensation XE) and of course, EVO 3D)
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iYappi said:
So it said... You want an HTC phone with dual-core processor? As for now it's HTC Sensation & Sensation XE) and of course, EVO 3D)
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Well really it doesn't have to be made by HTC, i really like the new android barebones interface on ICS
i also need to know, does the fact that an American phone supports GSM mean that it will accept one of my fancy european SIM cards (heard that CDMA doesn't need a sim card)

Beaverman20 said:
Well really it doesn't have to be made by HTC, i really like the new android barebones interface on ICS
i also need to know, does the fact that an American phone supports GSM mean that it will accept one of my fancy european SIM cards (heard that CDMA doesn't need a sim card)
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I'm from Russia myself, and I'm using a SIM-card too) as I've heard, some of the US operators (like AT&T and T-Mobile) are using GSM bands, so... There should be an American GSM versions of those phones. Well, if you want ICS - take a look at Google Galaxy Nexus...
PS: The CDMA-2000 phones use R-UIM cards instead of SIM. In our county...
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I'm from Russia myself, and I'm using a SIM-card too) as I've heard, some of the US operators (like AT&T and T-Mobile) are using GSM bands, so... There should be an American GSM versions of those phones. Well, if you want ICS - take a look at Google Galaxy Nexus...
PS: The CDMA-2000 phones use R-UIM cards instead of SIM. In our county...
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This Galaxy nexus could be the right choice, it's rather expensive, but offers all the things i really want.
One question remains tho: will the modding scene be as big as the desire, or even the original nexus?

It seems to me that it won't be so big as for N1 and Desire... Because Galaxy Nexus doesn't have a twin with HTC Sense as N1 does...) But xda thread for Android development for GN has already about 70 topics... And there are roms, kernels...
Two years ago Desire was the mainstream phone... Galaxy Nexus is the top-class... There won't be so many people having it, IMHO...
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IMO,
The Desire S isn't a true upgrade over the original Desire.
The Desire was tthe top end phone in 2010.
In 2011 it was the Sensation that succeeded it.
The Legend was the stylish mod range phone in 2010
In 2011 the Desire S was the molid range stylish phone
So I think the sensation is the true successor
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This is a very difficult question.
I have also been pondering an upgrade. The way I see it we have Four Choices.
1) Samsung Galaxy SII (sorry, I know it is not a HTC, but I thought it was worth mentioning).
2) HTC Sensation XE
3) HTC Evo3D
4) Wait until March when new phones will be announced.
The thing which bothers me most about the Sensation XE and the EVO3D is that the screens appear to looked washed out compared to my Desire. In my opinion the Inedible S is the only new(ish) HTC phone with a nice(ish) screen.
Just wish HTC used AMOLED again like that did with the Desire.
John

Beaverman20 said:
This Galaxy nexus could be the right choice, it's rather expensive, but offers all the things i really want.
One question remains tho: will the modding scene be as big as the desire, or even the original nexus?
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Definintely. all the nexus phones from google are "developer" phones.
Unlike the desire or other non-google partner devices, when google releases source code for a new android version, they also release the proprietary files (drivers etc) in order to compile the source fully for the device without the need for hacks like we see here. Of course google will eventually stop updating the devices like they did the N1 but, they will still attract a large community of developers.
I'd get one if they ever stop letting Samsung make them. Maybe Moto?

I suggest the sgs2. Its in every way better than the sensation. I bought one too.
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Sgs 2, or sensation xl
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EVO Design 4G (Boost Mobile) - May 31st - MSM8655 w/ ICS

Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)

dirkdigles said:
Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)
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its possible *something* could come of their kernel source, but who knows
really we will ultimately need our own kernel source (not even our cousin inc s/dhd/desire s source) to build a functional 3.xx kernel with working radio....not that its impossible i guess, but what is actually likely
as for pulling the rom itself, it would have to be resized to scale properly (unless htc included hdpi images in all the apks (unlikely), and if we really wanted sense 3.6 i could have ported it from the sensation xl (didnt seem worth it, since we ll ultimately get our own version at some point, and sense 4 is so much better imo)
but the best take away is what you said: that its good to see htc has ics going on our chipset...which is always a positive

[Q] DEVS: Port a Port from DHD?

Been dead from the phone game a bit... so
forgive the ignorance if that is what this is, but
can http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539423 now be ported back to the EVO to get working cams and such and also to play with Sense 4.0 while I await an HTC Nexus announcement?

Circular Pastry said:
Been dead from the phone game a bit... so
forgive the ignorance if that is what this is, but
can http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539423 now be ported back to the EVO to get working cams and such and also to play with Sense 4.0 while I await an HTC Nexus announcement?
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A 3.0 Linux kernel is still needed to further progress on a sense 4 port
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Yup currently, only the_plattypus is working on a 3.0 kernel for his sense 4 rom. Im sure we would have one, but the evo is a 2+ year old device and everyone has moved onto the latest and greatest. Sense 4a should be the smoothest sense version on the evo since it only requires 512 ram and a 1 ghz processor, other than sense 1.0. I wish i knew how to build a 3.0 kernel, since i really wanted to use sense 4 and i have this phone till april next year... Im sure the evo 4g section will be pretty dead by then...

thanks for the responses! I guess we'll see what happens.
Still some life in my G1! I'm hoping someone gets it going,
or maybe I'll dig into the os more than I have in the past...

I was also wondering the same question about the Inspire 4g which has a Rom here on XDA that states everything is working including FFC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849074. It uses the same resolution Cameras as the OG Evo. So does the Huawai Mercury which also gained ICS. There are other phones that use the same rez Camera as the OG Evo that got ICS and have been trying to find the answer if they could be ported over. I can upgrade but in comparison to my OG all other phones are lacking and found nothing worthy of my effort to change phones. Maybe the next drop in Feb will bring one but as to date they fail horribly.

Fangstien said:
I was also wondering the same question about the Inspire 4g which has a Rom here on XDA that states everything is working including FFC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849074. It uses the same resolution Cameras as the OG Evo. So does the Huawai Mercury which also gained ICS. There are other phones that use the same rez Camera as the OG Evo that got ICS and have been trying to find the answer if they could be ported over. I can upgrade but in comparison to my OG all other phones are lacking and found nothing worthy of my effort to change phones. Maybe the next drop in Feb will bring one but as to date they fail horribly.
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It's not about the res. It's about the drivers and kernel. New drivers need to be written from scratch as well as the 3.0 kernel.
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