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I have had my TP2 for a few weeks. I really like Tmobile' 3G, Where I live it's fairly reliable, I was wondering for others in the U.S. how is the coverage?
DC Checkin' in..
Here in the Nation's Capitol I'm loving the High-speed 3G plus being in the City there various Open Wi-fi Spots.. Sometimes i think there's 3G+ here from the blazing speed i get..
Bargsbeer said:
I have had my TP2 for a few weeks. I really like Tmobile' 3G, Where I live it's fairly reliable, I was wondering for others in the U.S. how is the coverage?
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And where do U live?
It rocks in Vegas...
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galaxys said:
And where do U live?
It rocks in Vegas...
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Sorry, I'm in Tampa FL, just south of Orlando my coverage is good.
I do field work all over the northeast, from Delaware to Maine. 3G coverage is spotty between cities, as expected. There are parts of the NJ turnpike where there's no signal at all! In Maine there's hardly any 3G up there. Compared to AT&T's 3G coverage, T-mo's is a step down, though the speeds are very comparable. I have a company supplied Verizon wireless modem that has 3G coverage almost everywhere.
New England is spotty at best...not completely upgraded there..NY is not bad, Chicago is great...
aragorn771 said:
New England is spotty at best...not completely upgraded there..NY is not bad, Chicago is great...
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That's good to hear, I can't wait to switch to TM. AT&T has **** coverage just about everywhere for me. At work I'm getting 2 bars at the moment, which is 1 bar higher than I've ever seen before. My boss has an iPhone and he constantly has to walk to a window to make phone calls.
Bargsbeer said:
I have had my TP2 for a few weeks. I really like Tmobile' 3G, Where I live it's fairly reliable, I was wondering for others in the U.S. how is the coverage?
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I live in Atlanta, and I must say the coverage is REALLY good. I get great connection speed as well. It's weird, I actually get better reception on my TP2 then I did on my Wing.
ATL GA, Coverage is good!
Decent in Denver
It's not too bad in the Denver area. Sometimes just a couple of bars, but seems to work fine.
Question on "My Location" Service (e.g. google maps). w/o the GPS turned on. For me, it only works if I disable 3G.
Perhaps there's not enough towers to triangulate.
I'm in Phoenix & I get 3G just about everywhere I go except work, but that's because that's 30ft underground at the hockey arena.
When I went to El Paso, Tx they had 3G in only parts of the city. I don't know why Tmobile would just implement it in certain parts. From what I hear the whole West side & most of the NE of the city has no 3G til January-ish.
@david Google Maps will not triangulate while on 3G with Tmobile. Its a known issue if you want to search.
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It's not too bad in the Denver area. Sometimes just a couple of bars, but seems to work fine.
Question on "My Location" Service (e.g. google maps). w/o the GPS turned on. For me, it only works if I disable 3G.
Perhaps there's not enough towers to triangulate.
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This is pretty normal. GPS doesn't use a ton of battery life, so just leave it enabled in Google Maps.
And I am in Orange County, CA. Coverage here is awesome overall. I have issues at my home, but that is all. I have it solid otherwise with HSPA.
Here in Queens, NY and the 3G is great!!! 2-3 bars at home, mostly 2. But I don't have any problems at all with 2 bars on 3G. At work I get full bars!!!
I'm all good.
I live in Portland and I rarely have more than 1 or 2 bars of 3g. I'm a bit disappointed because my wife has almost full on her G1.
It sounds like TMO has done a fairly good job at rolling out their 3G. I must say they have been modest when it comes to bragging like At&t.
I am out in the west burbs of chicago. I get 1 bar 3g, if it's on 3g at home. Usually goes to 2g. I am in a bit of a weak spot for 3g. I don't use 3g much at home. Everywhere else it is very good. Doesn't cover as much as edge though. Just past aurora and it's gone. (Orchard rd at I-88 seems to be as west as it goes). They updated edge in western Illinois with the 3g rollout. It used to stop at dekalb but now it goes all the way to the quad cities. Sweet!
I was in Tampa when it was rolled out there. Near Brandon/Tampa/Riverview. (kinda near 301 and causeway). I get 1-2 bars edge. Nothing 3g. Very weak spot. They need a tower there!
Seattle Washington area. So far so good.
I'm in Tampa also, and the 3g here always has full bars!!!
Bargsbeer said:
Sorry, I'm in Tampa FL, just south of Orlando my coverage is good.
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SUXX here in NJ in certain places ( my home...lol) I have 1 bar and no 3G or even Edge in my house ...Tj
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/tmobile3g/#signForm
People from the T-Mob forum hacked off by this ongoing issue have setup a petition.
Please sign if you are affected or support having this problem fixed!
They're merging with Orange in a matter of months... why would they do something now?
brummiesteven said:
They're merging with Orange in a matter of months... why would they do something now?
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I was about to say that, in fact the reason I never moved over to a better T-Mobile deal was because of the crap 3g.
Speaking to orange when I upgraded to the Desire last week they reckon it will take 18 months to integrate the network so I cant see T-Mobile doing anything when plans are all ready in the pipe line
I think you should read your T's & C's, just because you have a phone, they have a network, there is no gurantee of service....
T-Mobile are currently merging their 3g network with 3UK's 3g network and that is on going and has been for 2 years.
The merger of Orange and T-Mobile will not bring about any overnight changes. In fact it may be a year or longer before any works are undertaken to merge the networks and once started it could take a year or two to complete.
I'm currently using my T-Mobile SIM in my Desire, and it's all working perfectly.. 3G is blazingly fast, MMS and SMS messages are good, calls are clear with zero drop outs.
Sounds to me like it's just a bunch of people who didn't check the coverage maps...
FloatingFatMan said:
I'm currently using my T-Mobile SIM in my Desire, and it's all working perfectly.. 3G is blazingly fast, MMS and SMS messages are good, calls are clear with zero drop outs.
Sounds to me like it's just a bunch of people who didn't check the coverage maps...
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untrue. I'm in central london, as are other users and the coverage map shows my home and office locations as 'excellent'
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untrue. I'm in central london, as are other users and the coverage map shows my home and office locations as 'excellent'
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Hi Ninja,
I work in mobile comms, mainly R&D for my companies mobile technologies for using data capture devices out on the roads. The main issues we have found with trying to transfer data in built up areas are because they are built up areas. We work in London and Birmingham and to say the least the 3G coverage we find is really sporadic, this is mainly due to the high rise buildings blocking and bouncing the signal all over the place, it has nothing to do with network coverage its just the way it is in.
Hmm, this is making me a little nervous.
I'm getting concerned about T-Mob coverage, as I've been trying to sign up as a new customer.
Hrm. Should I be cancelling ASAP?
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Hi Ninja,
I work in mobile comms, mainly R&D for my companies mobile technologies for using data capture devices out on the roads. The main issues we have found with trying to transfer data in built up areas are because they are built up areas. We work in London and Birmingham and to say the least the 3G coverage we find is really sporadic, this is mainly due to the high rise buildings blocking and bouncing the signal all over the place, it has nothing to do with network coverage its just the way it is in.
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I can accept that langers- but the issue myself and these folk are having is that while the HSDPA connection is fine (blisteringly fast at times), 3G is non-existent. If only it were sporadic.
I was in Bath for my easter break and had the same issue there. HSDPA was great. 3G was non-existent.
sobrique said:
Hmm, this is making me a little nervous.
I'm getting concerned about T-Mob coverage, as I've been trying to sign up as a new customer.
Hrm. Should I be cancelling ASAP?
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TBH Sobrique if you live in a city then all the providers will have the same problem, my company has used O2 and Orange and they both suffered from urban signal degradation. Being on Orange when I have been out and about I am pretty confidant I will get a signal where I am going, this includes sitting on top of a mountain in the lake district uploading my fb photos I have taken 30secs earlier. Best bet all ways check the coverage maps but bare in mind you will all ways have probs in the city (where u can usually pick up free wifi)
I've never had any such problems in Birmingham?
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untrue. I'm in central london, as are other users and the coverage map shows my home and office locations as 'excellent'
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You're either in a poor reception area, are suffering from the same kind of "canyoning" that messes up GPS, or something nearby is interfering with your signal.
T-Mobiles network is generally fine, and certainly isn't deserving of anything as silly as a petition.
Have you tried other network SIMs?
phone is locked. so i can't try other sims. Look, if you visit the tmobile thread, their tech staff have posted and said there is an issue. They know there's an issue and they're investigating. It's no ones imagination or location. As i've said, i've moved around london and the uk quite a bit. I find the problem everywhere.
So it's either our particular handsets or something more. I'm happy you have no issues, but don't dismiss those that have. I'm not endorsing the petition, i can just identify with the problem. I'd like T-mobile to address it.
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I can accept that langers- but the issue myself and these folk are having is that while the HSDPA connection is fine (blisteringly fast at times), 3G is non-existent. If only it were sporadic.
I was in Bath for my easter break and had the same issue there. HSDPA was great. 3G was non-existent.
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You HAVE to have 3g service to get HSDPA, it is a function of a 3g network. If it wasn't then you've found 2.75g as you got HSDPA in a 2g area if there was no 3g
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You HAVE to have 3g service to get HSDPA, it is a function of a 3g network.
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Someone more technical than myself would have to confirm that. All i know is that the phone connects under these different states and displays one of the following...
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - HSDPA (or 3.5g as it's sometimes known)
Yes, the last two are under the 3g family, but they must operate under a different..."band"?
I'm saying that when "3G" shows on the screen - nothing. When "H" does, all is well.
I use T-Mobile in London , used it on my G2 and now the Desire. Never had any major issues with it. I often watch you tube on the train home and its generally pretty good until I go in a tunnel.
You dont tend to hang around in tunnels do you?
My phone worked perfectly in Vienna including in the Underground stations and trains. Come back to London / SE same old problems no 3G connection.
Are people actually aware of the issue who are saying it works all ok?
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I use T-Mobile in London , used it on my G2 and now the Desire. Never had any major issues with it. I often watch you tube on the train home and its generally pretty good until I go in a tunnel.
You dont tend to hang around in tunnels do you?
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Heh, no
Thanks for posting though, it's just as interesting to hear people on Desire's and G2's that don't have the issue.
The thing is that i have excellent data connection when on 'H', video's browsing, etc. It's when it dips to 3G that the problem happens. This dip happens more in my office location. I'm listening to the guys who say this could be "canyoning" etc. But it's a puzzler that 'H' from the same spot is perfect, whilst '3g' is dead.
It doesn't affect me hugely as it will always eventually flick over to H, but there's a lot of time wasted, waiting for it to do just that.
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TBH Sobrique if you live in a city then all the providers will have the same problem, my company has used O2 and Orange and they both suffered from urban signal degradation. Being on Orange when I have been out and about I am pretty confidant I will get a signal where I am going, this includes sitting on top of a mountain in the lake district uploading my fb photos I have taken 30secs earlier. Best bet all ways check the coverage maps but bare in mind you will all ways have probs in the city (where u can usually pick up free wifi)
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I've been Vodafone with a Touch Pro, and it's worked ok. I've checked coverage, it looks good. Seen some complaints re Vodafone, and some re T-Mobile, but am slightly concerned about there being a 'tech problems on T-Mob' petition.
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Someone more technical than myself would have to confirm that. All i know is that the phone connects under these different states and displays one of the following...
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - HSDPA (or 3.5g as it's sometimes known)
Yes, the last two are under the 3g family, but they must operate under a different..."band"?
I'm saying that when "3G" shows on the screen - nothing. When "H" does, all is well.
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In Vienna I actually got Edge once come up and the rest of the time it was HSDPA and on the odd go 3G (working)
hmm would be sweet
http://shop.sprint.com/en/services/airave/index.shtml?ECID=vanity:airave
uh would you not have WiFi access at home/office?
MaliciousOne said:
uh would you not have WiFi access at home/office?
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but its 4g!! omg! hehe course i have wifi but I want to test out 4g speeds n stuff, and also my cousin plays SS4 on his PS3 while I play BB2 and MW2 on PC, and sometimes my lil bro is here too, so it would be nice to have an extra source of internets like 4g
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but its 4g!! omg! hehe course i have wifi but I want to test out 4g speeds n stuff, and also my cousin plays SS4 on his PS3 while I play BB2 and MW2 on PC, and sometimes my lil bro is here too, so it would be nice to have an extra source of internets like 4g
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Doesn't that product use your internet...? It just encrypts its data and broadcasts it as 4g... therefore making it useless for your scenario. Honestly they should just make those with really powerful antennas, and not charge people a dime, and install it on people's houses. More converage for everyone.
Simple answer: No.
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Simple answer: No.
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Simple answer: yes it does use your intetnet, read the page in which you linked to.
The Airave doesn't even broadcast 3G. It is voice only.
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The Airave doesn't even broadcast 3G. It is voice only.
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Yep exactly as he says. I have one and its voice only.
Actually, it will do data, just not 3G. 1X only. On top of that, the antenna is pathetically weak (works OK in a house, but take it to an office building and you'll be lucky to get four rooms covered, or in my case, not even two rooms), and the GPS restricts it to working in the US. I don't think it even works in Puerto Rico.
I'm also appalled that carriers are CHARGING for femtocells. Why should we have to pay to fix their network, which we're already paying for?
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Actually, it will do data, just not 3G. 1X only. On top of that, the antenna is pathetically weak (works OK in a house, but take it to an office building and you'll be lucky to get four rooms covered, or in my case, not even two rooms), and the GPS restricts it to working in the US. I don't think it even works in Puerto Rico.
I'm also appalled that carriers are CHARGING for femtocells. Why should we have to pay to fix their network, which we're already paying for?
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You will get a free Airave if you've been a customer long enough and complain about poor signal.
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You will get a free Airave if you've been a customer long enough and complain about poor signal.
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Sure, but what about those who are new customers, and just want a decent signal at their workplace? For those who haven't noticed, Sprint's signal is terrible at penetrating walls. Really. I'll get five bars outside of my building, then in a perimeter office or room I'll get three bars, and as soon as I go inside from there, it'll drop to one or zero bars. And if you're wondering, the walls are mostly glass windows. It's not like I'm in a two-foot thick brick coffin with grounded steel reinforcements.
I got an airave for free because I have 5 towers in a 2 mile radius...
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Sure, but what about those who are new customers, and just want a decent signal at their workplace? For those who haven't noticed, Sprint's signal is terrible at penetrating walls. Really. I'll get five bars outside of my building, then in a perimeter office or room I'll get three bars, and as soon as I go inside from there, it'll drop to one or zero bars. And if you're wondering, the walls are mostly glass windows. It's not like I'm in a two-foot thick brick coffin with grounded steel reinforcements.
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Yeah, I know. My apartment in the middle of downtown Atlanta has zero bars. You could always try complaining and threaten to go back to where you came from and see what they can do for you.
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Yeah, I know. My apartment in the middle of downtown Atlanta has zero bars. You could always try complaining and threaten to go back to where you came from and see what they can do for you.
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Besides installing 20 femtocells in my office building, or buying new spectrum that penetrates well and giving me a phone to use them, all they're going to do is ask for an ETF and tell me to GTFO. There's plenty of coverage in the area, just not indoors.
and, they dont seem to work with the HTC EVO; been trying for 2 days to get the EVO to connect to it, but it wont...works fine with a cheapo Samsung slider though...
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and, they dont seem to work with the HTC EVO; been trying for 2 days to get the EVO to connect to it, but it wont...works fine with a cheapo Samsung slider though...
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You're doing something wrong. It makes no different what model phone you use.
well, after 2 hours on the phone with a level 2 airrave tech, he admitted that alot of people with EVO's can NOT connect to this version of the airave, and, that a new version is due out any day, which should work on the EVO..
I guess some of us are lucky, and others are not..I was really hoping to get this to work, but I guess I will keep checking to see when the new model is released, and grab one of those..
here are the filings/manuals/pictures they submitted to the FCC on it, in April, so it should be out any day..
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...lication_id=593827&fcc_id='QHYHUBBUBC1600-RT'
Is there anything else we can do with these just got mine today... works ok throughout the house but only full bars when in the same room. Any way to access the device (like a config screen) or add maybe another carrier to it or turn up the signal strength?
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well, after 2 hours on the phone with a level 2 airrave tech, he admitted that alot of people with EVO's can NOT connect to this version of the airave, and, that a new version is due out any day, which should work on the EVO..
I guess some of us are lucky, and others are not..I was really hoping to get this to work, but I guess I will keep checking to see when the new model is released, and grab one of those..
here are the filings/manuals/pictures they submitted to the FCC on it, in April, so it should be out any day..
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...lication_id=593827&fcc_id='QHYHUBBUBC1600-RT'
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My EVO has worked fine with both the v1 and v2 samsung Airaves.
Regarding range issues, if you call Airave tech support, they can boost the power a bit.
I wish mine would have...
At first I thought I had a bad Airave, but, my sons ****ty Samsung Slider hooked right up to it..my wife's evo wouldnt work either
Hi, I've been thinking of switching to Tmobile from Verizon and pulled the trigger on GS4 (ordered 2 for me & my brother).
We both live in NJ and work in Midtown Manhattan. I'm not sure if this is unusual, but our data service has been VERY spotty and we're having hard time even connecting to data. Sometimes browsing seems fine, while other times I get no data at all. Voice works fine. This applies to both indoor and outdoor. I read some threads on howardforums and other sites where people say Tmo in Manhattan is great except in a few buildings. Is this true?
I probably should've done a test drive beforehand, but one of my colleagues assured me his Tmo was fine. He said it's been exceptionally unstable for the past few days..
Tmo rep told me I could return within 14 days without restocking fee, so I'm not sure what to do. I understand Tmo LTE will be rolled out here around June; is it going to help a lot?
Verizon LTE in NYC is terribly slow, but it's at least stable. Any opinion would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
TMO in the big apple
I live in queens and frequently visit nyc and I can confirm that I pretty much always have perfect 4g cell reception. The only times I have spotty reception are in the subway (and only certain subway lines! I seem to get decent reception on the F/E) and when heading out deep in to east long island
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I live in queens and frequently visit nyc and I can confirm that I pretty much always have perfect 4g cell reception. The only times I have spotty reception are in the subway (and only certain subway lines! I seem to get decent reception on the F/E) and when heading out deep in to east long island
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Hmm yeah I've seen a lot of people saying that. I doubt this is a phone issue since both of our GS4s are behaving that way. We get full bars, 4G with arrows flashing on the notification bar, but no data...
Tried modifying APNs, but still no luck..
Which could possibly be causing the problem??
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Hmm yeah I've seen a lot of people saying that. I doubt this is a phone issue since both of our GS4s are behaving that way. We get full bars, 4G with arrows flashing on the notification bar, but no data...
Tried modifying APNs, but still no luck..
Which could possibly be causing the problem??
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Tmo 4g is generally slow in manhattan. Often times on any phone I have i'll get stuck in "it's sending upstream but nothings coming downstream " mode
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Tmo 4g is generally slow in manhattan. Often times on any phone I have i'll get stuck in "it's sending upstream but nothings coming downstream " mode
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i get around the 3 boroughs (ny/bk/qns) and I can say the only place where the internet craps out is deep into midtown manhattan
I live and work in Manhattan I always have constant 4G every test of done between HTC Amaze to the new galaxy s4 has been minimum of eight megabits downstream and two to three megabits upstream majority of the time its 15 megabits plus I have never found spotty 4G anywhere in New York City when you leave New York City I can guarantee you your service will go down when I Drive upstate New York my service is in and out constantly. I live in lower Manhattan and I work in midtown Manhattan just my 2 cents.
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I go to school in mid town and I must say for the past couple days it's been horrible the service is horrible hopefully they fix it soon it might be all those new iPhone users lol
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I go to school in mid town and I must say for the past couple days it's been horrible the service is horrible hopefully they fix it soon it might be all those new iPhone users lol
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Just talked to tech rep at Tmo and he said I'm right in the middle of 4 2G towers with closest 3G tower 2 blocks down. I'm a block away from the grand central..
Anyways he said there's nothing he can do from his end and recommended using wifi in the office. Probably won't get better until they roll out LTE by this summer...
Im 59th Street and the service is 4G status but internet is down to like 2g speeds i cant even load a instagram picture
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Im 59th Street and the service is 4G status but internet is down to like 2g speeds i cant even load a instagram picture
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Generally, the more people on the same tower, the slower the internet goes
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Generally, the more people on the same tower, the slower the internet goes
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Yeah i think i know that but still t-mobile service has been lacking or it just might be the re-framing hasn't been completed yet and the city shows a little lte here and there so the phone might be trying to switch back and fourth causing the speed issue..
Thinking about switching to T-mobile in the SW Suburbs of Chicago; I'm on wifi most of the time, so data speed isnt important to me, but, we MUST have good phone call quality in our house.
Is this an issue for anyone in chicago land, or, if we get a phone that is "wifi capable", and we have a fast,strong, wifi network in our house, does this become a non issue?
We had ATT, which was no problem in the house, and recently switched to Sprint, with the hopes of a stong "Spark Network" here; well, one of our phones in Spark compatible, and works fine, but the other 2 phones are HTC One's, not spark "compatible", and have poor phone call quality and reception in the house. We are waiting on an AirRave front Sprint, but, if that doesnt work, we're ready to go to T-Mobile..
Sorry for this weird question here, but, I trust my buds on XDA to give a real report on stuff like this, NOT the people from T-Mobile
Thanks!:good:
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Thinking about switching to T-mobile in the SW Suburbs of Chicago; I'm on wifi most of the time, so data speed isnt important to me, but, we MUST have good phone call quality in our house.
Is this an issue for anyone in chicago land, or, if we get a phone that is "wifi capable", and we have a fast,strong, wifi network in our house, does this become a non issue?
We had ATT, which was no problem in the house, and recently switched to Sprint, with the hopes of a stong "Spark Network" here; well, one of our phones in Spark compatible, and works fine, but the other 2 phones are HTC One's, not spark "compatible", and have poor phone call quality and reception in the house. We are waiting on an AirRave front Sprint, but, if that doesnt work, we're ready to go to T-Mobile..
Sorry for this weird question here, but, I trust my buds on XDA to give a real report on stuff like this, NOT the people from T-Mobile
Thanks!:good:
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T-mobie has pretty solid service in chicago but if you are in the suburbs go with a wifi capable phone if you have prepaid as you cant roam on prepaid. With a wifi capable phone it wont be an issue.
that's what I thought; it looks like most of their high end phones are wifi capable, so that means perfect calls in a strong wifi house, right?
thanks again!
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that's what I thought; it looks like most of their high end phones are wifi capable, so that means perfect calls in a strong wifi house, right?
thanks again!
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All T-Mobile smartphones have WiFi calling, so yeah as long as you're in good WiFi coverage you should be ok.. Just keep in mind it cannot switch out of WiFi calling while you are in a call, so if you get out of range during a call in WiFi, it will drop
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thanks, thats understandable..