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[Q] mount internal memory to sd card

i'd like to mount my incredible's internal storage to a folder on my sd card.
the reason is that the music player i'm using only lets you incorporate music into your library from either internal storage or sd card but not both, but i'd like to make use of all the space i have available for music. so i figure if i could do what i'm asking about i could trick the player.
buuuut i'm not so good with the mount command and linux in general... could anyone help me out? i've got root and all.

is this even possible? its like mounting drive D: into drive C:.....

I am a Linux/Android novice, but perhaps something with symlinks? I might play around with it later and let you know.

burkart said:
i'd like to mount my incredible's internal storage to a folder on my sd card.
the reason is that the music player i'm using only lets you incorporate music into your library from either internal storage or sd card but not both, but i'd like to make use of all the space i have available for music. so i figure if i could do what i'm asking about i could trick the player.
buuuut i'm not so good with the mount command and linux in general... could anyone help me out? i've got root and all.
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if by 'mount' you mean 'link', maybe. Why don't you just put all the music on the internal? 8 gigs is quite a bit, even for apps and music...

This works:
mount -o rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,uid=1000,gid=1015,dmask=07020,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8 -t vfat /dev/block//vold/179:3 /sdcard/subsonic
Obviously change subsonic to whatever folder you want to use. And I'm not positive but I think a folder with that same name must already exist on your sd card before mounting. Beware that before you can enable USB disk mode you have to execute the following command first:
umount /sdcard/subsonic
Again change subsonic to whatever folder you are mounting to.
I'm pretty sure you need superuser permission to execute a mount command. I recommend creating 2 shortcuts with Gscript to easily execute either command.

The challenge is your sdcard is formatted with fat. Symbolic links cannot be created within a partition formatted with fat and similarly you cannot mount a partition to a folder that resides on a fat partition.
You could format your sdcard with ext, but that would likely present you with another skew of challenges.

I had a similar question as the Samsung Vibrant does the same thing where internal memory is under /sdcard and then the actual sd card is under /sdcard/sd. Is there a way to make the Incredible do something similar? This makes the internal memory very useful as it is treated as sd-card allowing full use of the 8gb for many apps that do not handle internal memory well.
Currently internal is mounted as /emmc and sd card as /sdcard.

ppd0526 said:
I had a similar question as the Samsung Vibrant does the same thing where internal memory is under /sdcard and then the actual sd card is under /sdcard/sd. Is there a way to make the Incredible do something similar? This makes the internal memory very useful as it is treated as sd-card allowing full use of the 8gb for many apps that do not handle internal memory well.
Currently internal is mounted as /emmc and sd card as /sdcard.
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+1 for this. I'd love to use Winamp's wireless sync but my puny 2GB SD is'nt gonna cut it for my 26+ GB music lib... so I store music on the internal for now

zeke1988 said:
is this even possible? its like mounting drive D: into drive C:.....
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Sorry to dig up an old thread, but you can mount drive D into a folder on drive C. The feature is actually built into windows.

Just buy a 32GB class 4 card for 50 bucks. Put all your music on it. problem solved.
Also I looked it up; android doesn't support any sd cards above class 4. If it works great if not oh well.
burkart said:
i'd like to mount my incredible's internal storage to a folder on my sd card.
the reason is that the music player i'm using only lets you incorporate music into your library from either internal storage or sd card but not both, but i'd like to make use of all the space i have available for music. so i figure if i could do what i'm asking about i could trick the player.
buuuut i'm not so good with the mount command and linux in general... could anyone help me out? i've got root and all.
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pragmatous said:
Also I looked it up; android doesn't support any sd cards above class 4. If it works great if not oh well.
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Can you link to where you found that info please, as I'm just about to buy a new card and that could be rather important!
Thanks

How to choose which partition to save files to?

Is there an option where I can choose between saving apps or photos into either the USB storage or device memory partition?

bumping this thread

I'm interested in this as well. I've moved media files to the external sd card and the phone doesn't see them. System info widget is only showing 1.67 GB internal storage while I know that can't be right. Still trying to figure out storage on this device. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

GadgetMonger said:
I'm interested in this as well. I've moved media files to the external sd card and the phone doesn't see them. System info widget is only showing 1.67 GB internal storage while I know that can't be right. Still trying to figure out storage on this device. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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For me, after I unplug the USB cable, it goes through a "Media Scan," and items that I had on the external SD Card are imported (at least ringers and notifications)... But I can't seem to get it to actually DO anything with the REAL SD Card... The phone thinks that the SD Card is the internal storage on the phone (the PHONE partition).
I copied some movie files over to the sd card to play them with Moobo, but there doesn't seem to be a way to navigate to them. I had to copy them to the PHONE partition.

Dalmus said:
For me, after I unplug the USB cable, it goes through a "Media Scan," and items that I had on the external SD Card are imported (at least ringers and notifications)... But I can't seem to get it to actually DO anything with the REAL SD Card... The phone thinks that the SD Card is the internal storage on the phone (the PHONE partition).
I copied some movie files over to the sd card to play them with Moobo, but there doesn't seem to be a way to navigate to them. I had to copy them to the PHONE partition.
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Hmmm... I don't think my device is working that way if it's supposed to. I put my ringers and pictures on the external sd, but they didn't get imported. They weren't there when I tried setting a ringtone and the pics weren't in my gallery. I did get the media scan. I just assumed that it was an antivirus app? And my phone definitely isn't seeing my sd card as internal storage. My card is practically empty yet I'm only showing 1.67 GB internal storage. Of course that could be a problem with the widget, but it does drop if I install anything from the market.

GadgetMonger said:
Hmmm... I don't think my device is working that way if it's supposed to. I put my ringers and pictures on the external sd, but they didn't get imported. They weren't there when I tried setting a ringtone and the pics weren't in my gallery. I did get the media scan. I just assumed that it was an antivirus app? And my phone definitely isn't seeing my sd card as internal storage. My card is practically empty yet I'm only showing 1.67 GB internal storage. Of course that could be a problem with the widget, but it does drop if I install anything from the market.
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On your SD card, do you have the ringers and notifications in the proper directory tree? Its got to be /media/audio/ringers or /media/audio/notifications
As for free space, when you go to SETTINGS ->STORAGE you should see THREE subsections... The first is your physical SD card, the second is "USB storage" which is the internal space you get to play with, and the third is "Device" storage, which is apparently 2GB instead of the 1GB as advertised.

Mine is working as expected.
SD card = 14.92 Total Available 11.68 GB (have a lot of photos, music videos and songs)
USB or Internal = 11.50 Total Available = 11.38 CB
Device Memory = 1.60 GB
The difference between actual and stated is for the hidden system files I guess.

does anyone have an answer to my original question?

Dalmus said:
On your SD card, do you have the ringers and notifications in the proper directory tree? Its got to be /media/audio/ringers or /media/audio/notifications
As for free space, when you go to SETTINGS ->STORAGE you should see THREE subsections... The first is your physical SD card, the second is "USB storage" which is the internal space you get to play with, and the third is "Device" storage, which is apparently 2GB instead of the 1GB as advertised.
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As for the ringers, yup. The phone recognizes them when they're on the root of the card, just not in external sd.
And yes I did find storage in settings. Nothing matches up with what the widget shows so... That makes 2 or three apps that I regularly use that aren't working right on this phone.
The internal memory still seems low to me though. In settings it's showing 1.77 GB. I guess the problem here is that I'm not understanding how to use the storage available. On my 3d I have internal phone which is at almost 6 GB with around 100 apps installed. Never have used app to sd applications. My sd card is a 16 GB and its loaded down to about 7 GB free. Music, pics and ringtones all go to the SD card and the phone reads the files and uses them accordingly.
My GSII has about 50 apps and is showing 1.77 GB free, but that drops whenever I download a new app. So it seems as though if I approach 100 apps I'll run out of internal memory. No? That means I have no choice but to use an app to sd application?

GadgetMonger said:
My GSII has about 50 apps and is showing 1.77 GB free, but that drops whenever I download a new app. So it seems as though if I approach 100 apps I'll run out of internal memory. No? That means I have no choice but to use an app to sd application?
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I believe there's 16gb of total storage on the phone.
2gb is reserved for apps.
14gb is reserved for OS and "other" such as photos, media, etc...
If you go into Settings-> Applications -> Manage Applications and select an App that you downloaded, you'll get the option to move the App to the SD card. You might try that.
Cheers

maxspiderx said:
Is there an option where I can choose between saving apps or photos into either the USB storage or device memory partition?
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Apps go to your 2gb partition and photos and music will go to the usb partition. You can move stuff from the usb partition to your as card. I downloaded ringtones and moved them to my as card and they work fine. As far as apps go if u download apps2sd supposidly u can move an apps to usb storage that way if u run out of your 2gb.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

musclehead84 said:
Apps go to your 2gb partition and photos and music will go to the usb partition. You can move stuff from the usb partition to your as card. I downloaded ringtones and moved them to my as card and they work fine. As far as apps go if u download apps2sd supposidly u can move an apps to usb storage that way if u run out of your 2gb.
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The problem is that once you move things to the SD card, you can't access them anymore, at least not from inside any apps that I've seen.
I'd love to put a bunch of MP3's and .AVI's on the SD card so I can play them, but none of the movie apps have an option to look at the SD card... Or rather, the CLAIM they look at the SD card, but really they're looking at the internal memory of the phone, not the actual SD card.

I have all of my media (mp3s and videos) on my external SD and they are being read just fine. Most apps will let you specify what location your media is stored. I use Mobo player and it lets you choose where the media directory is, even multiple directories. I use my external SD card so i point to: /mnt/sdcard/externa_sd/what ever folder name you want
Dalmus said:
The problem is that once you move things to the SD card, you can't access them anymore, at least not from inside any apps that I've seen.
I'd love to put a bunch of MP3's and .AVI's on the SD card so I can play them, but none of the movie apps have an option to look at the SD card... Or rather, the CLAIM they look at the SD card, but really they're looking at the internal memory of the phone, not the actual SD card.
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Internal/External SD Cards

Just got my GS2 today and I must say this is the easiest phone I have rooted to date! I have been working my way around the OS and found that apps are not seeing my files on my External SD Card. Is there a way to sort of sync these? I guess I dont mean sync, but have apps search both internal and external storage for files? Take beautiful widgets, I have a ton of images on the ex sd card. When I launch the app to apply one of those images it looks in phone storage and gives no option to search the ex sd card.
Thanks

cordell12 said:
Just got my GS2 today and I must say this is the easiest phone I have rooted to date! I have been working my way around the OS and found that apps are not seeing my files on my External SD Card. Is there a way to sort of sync these? I guess I dont mean sync, but have apps search both internal and external storage for files? Take beautiful widgets, I have a ton of images on the ex sd card. When I launch the app to apply one of those images it looks in phone storage and gives no option to search the ex sd card.
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easiest thing would to move everything to the internal sd card. i dont like how the phone sees SD card (internal) then from there i have to navigate to the folder called 'external sd' to look at my microSD files.

tool2269 said:
easiest thing would to move everything to the internal sd card. i dont like how the phone sees SD card (internal) then from there i have to navigate to the folder called 'external sd' to look at my microSD files.
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Exactly, but what good is it to have an external card if the apps dont use it? If I have to move everything to the internal card, what can I put on the external card and be able to use/access? None of my apps recognize the external card, lol.

i use my external sdcard for music & movie business and use the internal for everything else. i sync back & forth between pc & cell a lot so having a CLEAN (aka, none of those extra android folders) sdcard makes browsing and syncing much easier, cleaner, and organized. also, without that android bloat i can tell exactly how much goodies i have just by looking at the size of external sdcard
ps: external sdcard is more or less just a subdir on the internal sdcard.... its /sdcard/external_sd if i remember correctly.

i just slap my movie files onto thte internal sd since i delete them afterwards... didnt realize 16 gb is a lot of space lol

I removed some movies from the internal memory but when i go to storage, the available free space is the same as when the movies where there. I held the movie file down and selected delete when the pop up menu came up.
Any suggestions to clear the inetrnal memory or do i need to format the usb storage which will delete everything from internal memory?
Thanks,
Ian B

[Q] Unable to mount encrypted external microSD [SOLVED]

Hello,
I´m on a stock ROM, that I have only rooted. Nothing else is done to the phone.
I have been using Android´s built in encryption for both internal and external memory cards,without any issues, since a few months.
When I woke up this morning and started my phone (the battery had died) I couldn´t mount the encrypted external microSD card. I got an error stating that the memory card couldn´t be mounted because it needs at least 1 MB of free storage.
Before I went to bed I started a torrent download on the phone to the external memory card. Apparently that must have filled the whole memory card (I had only 2GB left of free space) and then the battery must have died.
So, the error message says I need to remove some files to "encrypt" (mount) the memory card How do I remove files from the memory card if I can´t mount it? Can I mount the encrypted memory card on a PC with a card reader?
I´m NOT interested in formatting the card since I have invaluable material on the memory card. The most important issue for me is to not loose my data.
Please help me if you have any insight into this problem.
Details: Android 4.1.1
N7100XXALJ2
Kernel version
3.0.31-310953
Build number:
JRO033CN7100XXALJ3

Re: [Q] Unable to mount encrypted external microSD
You rooted?
If yes then try aroma file manager or twrp.
If not try card reader option as well.
Sent from my GT-N7100

Hi,
I am rooted yes. But I have the stock recovery manager as far as I know.
I couldn't find any "Aroma file manager" and don't know what TWRP is. I searched the play store for twrp and found different recovery managers.
Could you be more specific? My problem is that the card won't mount since the system states that it requires at least 1MB free memory on the card. The same card I cannot mount. So as I see it I'm in a catch 22.
Has anyone any knowledge of how to mount a encrypted memory card on a PC? What OS should I use, any particular software?
Thanks...

Ok, I tried using a memory card reader on a windows PC.
The files didn´t look encrypted at all. This is VERY weird. Either the files are individually encrypted or something or they weren´t encrypted at all
I could see all files, their names and the file sizes I removed about a GigaByte of crap and inserted it into my phone again
The phone mounted the memory card without any problems.
So this was actually a non-issue.
Problem solved!

-Android Freak- said:
Ok, I tried using a memory card reader on a windows PC.
The files didn´t look encrypted at all. This is VERY weird. Either the files are individually encrypted or something or they weren´t encrypted at all
I could see all files, their names and the file sizes I removed about a GigaByte of crap and inserted it into my phone again
The phone mounted the memory card without any problems.
So this was actually a non-issue.
Problem solved!
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My experience is that files are individually encrypted. You can navidate the directory structure and see all files but cannot open them.

Issues moving certain apps to External SD

I have a LG G3 running stock M 6.0
I'm trying to increase my 16GB flash size or at least move my big apps to my external SD.
I did OK with Spotify and some others, but few others (like some games) are not moving their data to my external sd.
I have problems with those apps detecting my Internal Storage as my external SD card due to the fact that the Android mounts the internal storage in
/sdcard/
linked to some other folder
/storage/emulated/0
while my real external SD card is actually mounted on
/storage/7FB0-1DEE/
What on the earth is this thing calling my internal storage, sdcard, and my external sdcard to some strange mounted folder with a weird code that of course my apps have no idea wth is that...
Any ideas how to workaround that? Any guidelines will be very much appreciate it.
-- JJ
PD. I don't want to use any App2SD or FolderMount rooted 3rd parties to create logical links/shortcuts and "pretent" or make thing the app the files are on the internal storage, when they are on the external sd. That thing works OK. I rooted my stock FW and tested it that way, but I dont want my phone to have root access.
PD2. I installed RR582-Nougat711 to test this Ext SD adoption (which is not available on G3 Stock M 6.0). It sort of worked OK but I lost my ext sdcard when connecting it to my PC. I'm not willing to make my external sd part of the internal storage anymore. That think is awkward, encrypting my card and losing portability to MTP transfer.