[Q] MHL lag - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

11pin samsung MHL connection. Using cyanogenmod 10 if it matters. I'm getting significant delay from whats going on in the phone compared to whats outputted on screen. I'm using some emulator games and a ps3 controller connected over bluetooth, and the lag is sufficient enough to make it hard to play. I'm sure the lag isn't a slow running game or the bluetooth connection because I can play the game with the bluetooth controller on the phone screen fine, but the MHL output is where I'm seeing the lag.
I've tested this on my 1080p computer monitor and it works fine, but on my toshiba 1080p TV, I get the lag there. I have read about other people with similar issues, but have not seen any resolution yet. I'm not sure where I should be looking for a resolution either, should it be something changed on the TV input settings perhaps, maybe something that the android ROM needs to control better, or maybe just bad samsung MHL hardware.
I'm doubting its just slow hdmi connection the TV since I have my game consoles hooked up and they play without issue. Wondering if anyone out there has found a solution to this issue.
Also as a side note, does anyone else notice the phone charges very slowly connected through the MHL usb plug, even if your screen is off, and no mirrored image is being displayed?

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MHL screen resolution

I am considering buying an MHL cable for my SGS2. However, I would like to know what resolution can the phone display on a full-HD monitor or TV?
I have read in reviews that it can output full 1080p when watching videos. But what about using apps (like some office apps, browser) or playing games? Will it run on full HD or on the phone's native 800x480 resolution? What about rotation, will everything work in landscape on the monitor?
This could be a great portable computer (used with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse) if it is able to run apps on the monitor's native resolution. So, what is your experience?
Hi, I have the cable and yes, it is like you said. On movies it will output full 1080 and in application it will use the 480.
Regarding the rotation yes everything can be in landscape depending on the phone position, at least from what I've tried.
This was my idea to, that it could be a portable computer, but ...no.
The resolution, I think, makes me not to use it. In our days we are used to big resolution and in 480 you will be claustrophobic.
And you need the power adapter around you all the time. The cable needs to be powered. It can be powered from the USB on your TV.
I wanted to use the dock with the cable and a bt keyboard/mouse. But the original dock doesn't know data transfer so it can't be used with the cable. The mouse configuration was changed from 2.3 to 4.0 and for me is not practical anymore. You still have to use the phone, for example the back key.
And if I remember well I think when you want to type, the on screen keyboard will appear even if you use the bt one. And in 480 this is half of the screen.
This is my experience.
Thade_trash said:
This is my experience.
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Thanks a lot, this was exactly the information I needed!
In movies it's only 1080i btw

MHL Problems

Hello! My SGS3 friends, I have bought a MHL adapter, bluetooth keyboard, and a bluetooth mouse. So far, the whole setup has been lovely, BUT...
1) I want some way to use the power button from my keyboard.
2) The screen is like, 5% zoomed in, it's the TV's fault, but I would love some way to fix it, probably phone based as none of the TV settings can fix it
Thanks much for any help!
Also, is there any way to like, turn the screen off while the phone is connected?
You can't turn the screen off because it's just projecting the screen via hdmi to your tv...
I also have that the edges are cut off the screen, this has nothing to do with the mhl adapter or your S3.
You need to adjust that with the tv settings, but both LCD screens here can't fix it, with 16:9 or other auto adjust settings.
Pixel to pixel is the problem I read somewhere, but some tv's just won't project it right.
Look on Youtube and you will see more people have the problem when they play games and so.
It's annoying but you can't use an other setting on the phone, and it's not the MHL adapters fault.
Send from my GT-I9300 with Tapatalk

720p output to all tv, can you do it?

Can someone make kernel or tell me how to do this, maybe thru some kind of converter or something like that?
1080p/24Hz is chopy for games so maybe this can be done by software or hardware fix??
There is similar kernel but for One S so I belive this can be done for note 2.
Pls help this is realy big issue for mhl/tv output and i didnt find any solution on web how to make this happen on note 2.
I'm to having same issue.
Choppy with the dock. My GNex works so smoothly compared and it's half the phone although it is rooted.
I'd be very excited to known if a custom kernel can fix this. I've posted something similar already in this thread.
Cheers guys.
Sent from LV-426...
I hope for the fix to, it a shame that this isnt implemented like and option in stock software. One again please devs or anybody help us with this problem :crying:
Going to try to fix this thru vga pc because in my tv manual says I can select resolution myself thru this input (RGB PC only).
Maybe you too can do something with this.
Well i cant post links so this is what I will test with my Note2:
RED Galaxy S3 SIII i9300 i9308 MHL Micro USB 11pin to HDTV HDMI
HDMI Female to Female F/F Coupler Extender Adapter Connector
Gold HDTV HDMI to VGA HD15 3 RCA Adapter Cable 5ft
When tested will report here... still hoping for kernel modification of some kind...
I have a N7100 and a smart dock this has been my experience:
HDMI -> DVI adapter plugged into a Dell U2312HM via DVI (HDCP compliant):
- Stuck at 720x480 resolution no matter what.
- When mouse and external display is connected there is a drop in frame rate. However, if the mouse OR the external display are connected seperately the FPS remains high.
HDMI cable to my 26" Westinghouse 1080P TV (HDCP compliant but constantly has handshaking issues):
- Appears to display at 1080p or at least scaled up 720p though I set my TV in 1:1 and there are no black bars so I suspect 1080p.
- When mouse and external display is connected there is a drop in frame rate. However, if the mouse OR the external display are connected seperately the FPS remains high.
It seems that there is a bug in the code that has to do with when the phone enters that "desktop mode." There also seems to be a bug when using an adapter for some reason as well. The N7100 seems to act completely differently than my PS3. My PS3 connects wonderfully using the same adapter and the same Dell monitor, no handshaking issues. Though my PS3 to get sound out of the TV's speakers I have to mute and then unmute the TV to get sound anytime the HDMI link is closed and then reopened (starting a game for example). While it seems the N7100 behaves oppositely.
Update on my Gold HDTV HDMI to VGA HD15 3 RCA Adapter Cable 5ft combination is not working the device dont check connection thru hdmi rgb input (no signal or notification of connection). So I belive only hdmi input/output works with note 2. Once again pls help us regarding this option to lock device on 720p output thru hdmi.
man i really need this force 720p playback option as well...

[Q] MHL cable, BT mouse & keayboard

Hi guys (and girls),
I have HTC One X with stock ROM on it. I got myself a MHL cable (not original, from dealextreme) and i had an idea to make some kind of notebook from my one X. I already have BT mouse and keyboard (both logitech) and monitor with HDMI input port.
When i pair mouse and keyboard with my phone everything works well, i can write messages, scroll and all other stuff, but problem happens when i connect that MHL cable from my phone to monitor. I get clear and good picture on my monitor and everything is good when controlling phone by touch, but when i try to control it by mouse and keyboard everything really slows down. Mouse cursor has great amount of lag, and typing with keyboard is nearly impossible.
I saw other people using this kind of combination on youtube and other places and as i can see everything goes without problem, did anyone had experience like i have or has a reason why is this happening??
Thanks
wow, that could be normal, 1080p output and 2 bluetooth devices shouldn't be easy to handle together

[Q] Fire TV + USB Sound Card?

Hey everybody,
I don't have my Fire TV (the launch in Germany is still 2.5 weeks away) but I do have a question.. at least temporarily I'd like to connect it to an older monitor of mine which only has DVI input (I don't own an actual TV at the moment.. well, a tube tv set for my SNES ). I do have an HDMI->DVI cable but I just realized that I won't get any sound this way.. and since the speaker I want to use don't have optical input I have to find another way to connect those. One option would be a digital-analog converter (like this one, for example: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Digi...-Audio-Converter-Adapter-DHTV/2032388430.html) but someone mentioned that it's possible that the Fire TV works with regular USB sound cards which would be cheaper and not require yet another power plug and a bunch of cables.
I realize it's not an optimal setup at all, bus as I said, it's temporary. Has anyone tried this or maybe have a cheap usb sound card lying around they'd be willing to test for me? Tried the search function but didn't get any results.
kind regards
jpde said:
Hey everybody,
I don't have my Fire TV (the launch in Germany is still 2.5 weeks away) but I do have a question.. at least temporarily I'd like to connect it to an older monitor of mine which only has DVI input (I don't own an actual TV at the moment.. well, a tube tv set for my SNES ). I do have an HDMI->DVI cable but I just realized that I won't get any sound this way.. and since the speaker I want to use don't have optical input I have to find another way to connect those. One option would be a digital-analog converter (like this one, for example: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Digi...-Audio-Converter-Adapter-DHTV/2032388430.html) but someone mentioned that it's possible that the Fire TV works with regular USB sound cards which would be cheaper and not require yet another power plug and a bunch of cables.
I realize it's not an optimal setup at all, bus as I said, it's temporary. Has anyone tried this or maybe have a cheap usb sound card lying around they'd be willing to test for me? Tried the search function but didn't get any results.
kind regards
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I wouldn't even bother using an external DAC connected to the optical out if you re planning
to use an HDMI to DVI adapter. I, and a few others, have discovered out that the FireTV does
not support HDMI to DVI because of HDCP. Amazon video content will not display on the monitor
at all, and video from XBMC results in many dropped frames and video instability. You will also
not get any sound out of the optical. The only way to get around this is to find an HDMI splitter
or switch which will emulate HDCP, and that will cost.
Saying that, I would assume that the same would happen with USB audio (if supported), although
I have not tried it myself.
Thank you for the quick reply, it was just in time to cancel the order I placed for a cheap toslink-rca adapter
Will I at least be able to set up and tinker with the Fire TV? If I can't use it properly at my own place until I get an actual TV I thought I might give it to my mum for the time being, but I wanted to set it up first cause she probably won't be able to do that
jpde said:
Thank you for the quick reply, it was just in time to cancel the order I placed for a cheap toslink-rca adapter
Will I at least be able to set up and tinker with the Fire TV? If I can't use it properly at my own place until I get an actual TV I thought I might give it to my mum for the time being, but I wanted to set it up first cause she probably won't be able to do that
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Yes... it still makes a nice box to tinker with. That's what I did before
getting a HDMI switch to bypass the audio issue with DVI. You just
won't get any audio and video playback will be unstable to non-existent,
depending on the source. However, all the FTV menus will still display
fine, and so will games and other apps.
The only other thing to note is that since video will not display properly,
you will not see the opening video when you first activate your FTV:
you will get a blank screen. This made me think that I had issues with
the device and that it had crashed, but you really have to just wait through
it. However, I don't know what repercussions this may have on activating
your device if you are trying to avoid the automatic updates to non-rootable
firmware versions during initial setup.
I'd assume it's going to ship with new recent firmware, but thanks for the heads up, I'll set it up at work then, there I've got access to a display with HDMI input
edit:
Or I'll just block the firmware update thingie at home, following these instructions.
Any news on USB audio?
Did someone try XBMC and USB audio out? I have a pure Digi Amp and like to have volume control. I assume optical out is without volume control...
Cheers,
Andy

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