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[Q] Noob: just flashed cm9, no 4g?

Just rooted and flashed cm9 for the first time on my t-mo galaxy sII. Working on restoring apps now through titanium, for what ever reason it is only 3G connection now where it always said 4G previously... any idea why or how to fix?

Two things I noticed. I think the original rom reported 3g as 4g so make sure you actually had 4g originally, but you may want to try another radio. Helped me
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sax911 said:
Just rooted and flashed cm9 for the first time on my t-mo galaxy sII. Working on restoring apps now through titanium, for what ever reason it is only 3G connection now where it always said 4G previously... any idea why or how to fix?
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As long as you are seeing it switch from 3g to "H", you are getting "4g". CM9's icon is not 4g, it is an h.
Did you try a speed test to see if you are still getting "4g" speeds?

H is 4G on CM9

I've noticed the same thing. Where mine used to say 4G (at work), it now says 3G. However, I'm still getting similar speeds via speedtest so it doesn't really matter what it says to me. However, I still may try a different radio.
Update: I don't know much about it and not sure where the settings are for this, but it appears to be a governing feature with CM9. Meaning that if your phone is just sitting idle it'll catch a 3G signal and when you do a speed test, hop on the browser, download something, etc it then kicks into H/4G.

Just to clarify a lil. Technically tmo doesn't have 4g they have hspa+ 42Mbs.They call it 4g and i have found it offten times to be as fast but it is technically not 4g. CM9 being proper folks and all, call it how it is, hence the H icon.
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bFORTIFIED said:
Just to clarify a lil. Technically tmo doesn't have 4g they have hspa+ 42Mbs.They call it 4g and i have found it offten times to be as fast but it is technically not 4g. CM9 being proper folks and all, call it how it is, hence the H icon.
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Sorry man. But your facts are quite out dated. Back in December it was decided that even though hspa +, LTE, and wi Max have not reached the 100 mbs needed to be 4g they are all now officially accepted as 4g.
Funny everyone makes this comment because all T -mobile did was upgrade the existing network .. yet no one mentions the others.. they also do not meet the minimum requirements to be 4G.. well up till December that is..
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PJcastaldo said:
Sorry man. But your facts are quite out dated. Back in December it was decided that even though hspa +, LTE, and wi Max have not reached the 100 mbs needed to be 4g they are all now officially accepted as 4g.
Funny everyone makes this comment because all T -mobile did was upgrade the existing network .. yet no one mentions the others.. they also do not meet the minimum requirements to be 4G.. well up till December that is..
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Well thats good to know, however apparently cyanogen decided to make the distinction between hspa+ and lte, and so i thought I would clarify why there is an H instead of 4G icon.
And upon further research the standard specifies 1 Gbit speeds for pedestrian and stationary devices. Furthermore I dont see any evidence that the definition for the standard was changed simply that the sanctioning body decided to call lte nd wimax 4g because they represented significant improvements on the 3g technologies.
Im in no way knocking tmo for there choice and actually think it makes more sense to fully exploit current technologies rather then investing in new one. An attitude like thats keeps the cost to the consumer lower while still providing a comparable product.
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Here you go.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
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PJcastaldo said:
Here you go.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
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Im sorry I dont see where it is stated that HSPA+ is 4G, In this qoute from the ITU.
Following a detailed evaluation against stringent technical and operational criteria, ITU has determined that “LTE-Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed. The detailed specifications of the IMT-Advanced technologies will be provided in a new ITU-R Recommendation expected in early 2012.
I do see where it call's LTE and WiMax 4G though.

bFORTIFIED said:
Im sorry I dont see where it is stated that HSPA+ is 4G, In this qoute from the ITU.
Following a detailed evaluation against stringent technical and operational criteria, ITU has determined that “LTE-Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed. The detailed specifications of the IMT-Advanced technologies will be provided in a new ITU-R Recommendation expected in early 2012.
I do see where it call's LTE and WiMax 4G though.
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Though is does not particularly say hspa + the network falls under an evolved 3G network.

This will be my last post on the subject I promise
But I think that
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Though is does not particularly say hspa + the network falls under an evolved 3G network.
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is rather subjective. But we all get our own opinions. Mine would be that the technology is not particularly evolved, but rather refined allowing greater speed then previous "3G" technology.
In any event I believe we both agree that LTE, WiMax, and HSPA+ are more accurate terms then 4G which is simply used as a marketing tool for people less interested in the matter then most members of the XDA forums.

H means 4g. Who gives a **** if it is really 4g or not. If your phone said 4g with a TMO rom then you will see a H from a Cyanogenmod rom.
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Poor Reception Fix

For those with less than great reception try this!
Dial *18 from your sprint device.
That is the number for "Sprints Cell Tower Enhancement". It will lock on your present location and boost your signal by at least one bar. You will have to do this as you move about to different locations/towers but if you are stationary and having signal issues, it can help.
Please let me know your results. Wish you luck! :good:
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THIS RELIES ON DIALER CODES. THAT MEANS THIS WILL NOT WORK ON ANY CYANOGENMOD BUILD
IF YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE DIALER CODES ENABLED TRY ##RTN# (##786#) IF YOU GET VIEW OR RESET YOUR GOOD TO GO. IF NOTHING HAPPENS THIS TOOL WILL NOT WORK

hmm, id like to see more details on this

Success100 said:
hmm, id like to see more details on this
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This tool is part of the "Sprint Network Vision" rollout. This is very new, more details as they come. I'll try to get some more technical info from my peeps. You know they don't cover anything but the basics in meetings lol.

Seriously?! This seems too good to be true... I just went from 3 to 5 bars!
I'm still a little skeptical however... Will do some more testing.
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Same here! I'm in an airport for the next 2 hours, this helped a lot.
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rockrerun said:
Seriously?! This seems too good to be true... I just went from 3 to 5 bars!
I'm still a little skeptical however... Will do some more testing.
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NICE!! Glad to hear it, please do test. I would try at work but I already have 100% reception. Makes me worry about radiation haha

Don't really see how this just got launched and is part of the Sprint Network Vision as there are posts about it that are 2 years old. Supposedly it reconnects you to the nearest Sprint tower so if there are 2 towers within range it will only connect to the nearer one, did nothing for me. I'll keep trying...and wishing!
found this http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-evo-4g/131785-dial-18-when-your-signal-bad.html

Unfortunately, this can't change the laws of physics. I'm still in a near-dead zone with -101dBm signal.

I didn't see bars move but went from a solid -87 to -85
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evoer said:
Don't really see how this just got launched and is part of the Sprint Network Vision as there are posts about it that are 2 years old. Supposedly it reconnects you to the nearest Sprint tower so if there are 2 towers within range it will only connect to the nearer one, did nothing for me. I'll keep trying...and wishing!
found this http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-evo-4g/131785-dial-18-when-your-signal-bad.html
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Hmm I guess the reason it got brought up again is it will start making a bigger footprint now than two years ago. With all IDEN towers nationwide to be converted to CDMA by June 2013 you'll get better coverage and bandwith when using this code due to extra towers.
"Network Vision: Sprint will rollout LTE nationwide, reduce dropped calls by 20-30%, improve 3G speeds 30-50%, remove IDEN network and introduce Sprint Connect on CDMA, increase capacity and introduce HD calling by 2014 nationwide!"
All in all if it helps it's worth it!

pangolin.rollin said:
Hmm I guess the reason it got brought up again is it will start making a bigger footprint now than two years ago. With all IDEN towers nationwide to be converted to CDMA by June 2013 you'll get better coverage and bandwith when using this code due to extra towers.
"Network Vision: Sprint will rollout LTE nationwide, reduce dropped calls by 20-30%, improve 3G speeds 30-50%, remove IDEN network and introduce Sprint Connect on CDMA, increase capacity and introduce HD calling by 2014 nationwide!"
All in all if it helps it's worth it!
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Uh, the Network Vision project will not add towers in any significant way. The current IDEN towers will be retired, and the 800 MHz band will be repurposed using essentially the same towers Sprint uses for 1900 MHz service. Perhaps once there is 800 MHz service in most areas, the *18 feature might do something novel (like force a shift to that band) but that is just speculation. Meanwhile, experts tell me it has been around for years and doesn't do much at all.

This didn't work on cm10
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jamcar said:
This didn't work on cm10
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Same here.

DarkManX4lf said:
Same here.
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I don't think any dialer code will work
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jamcar said:
I don't think any dialer code will work
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I guess this will only work if you are on a touch wiz Rom.

pangolin.rollin said:
Hmm I guess the reason it got brought up again is it will start making a bigger footprint now than two years ago. With all IDEN towers nationwide to be converted to CDMA by June 2013 you'll get better coverage and bandwith when using this code due to extra towers.
"Network Vision: Sprint will rollout LTE nationwide, reduce dropped calls by 20-30%, improve 3G speeds 30-50%, remove IDEN network and introduce Sprint Connect on CDMA, increase capacity and introduce HD calling by 2014 nationwide!"
All in all if it helps it's worth it!
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If my 3g speeds are increased by 50% at the most, then I will be looking at 450kb/s down, and about 120kb/s up. That puts me 5 times the speed of dialup? Sprint is really setting its sights high.

swanysto said:
If my 3g speeds are increased by 50% at the most, then I will be looking at 450kb/s down, and about 120kb/s up. That puts me 5 times the speed of dialup? Sprint is really setting its sights high.
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ROFL... I guess it's better than nothing while we wait... LTE looming in the FAR distant future. We all are going crazy with these turtle speeds.

I had 4 bars and it dropped me down to 3
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xCovErtWolFx757 said:
I had 4 bars and it dropped me down to 3
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Strange, are you on the latest PRL? Try to update it and reboot and try again. Let me know if this fixes it.

pangolin.rollin said:
Strange, are you on the latest PRL? Try to update it and reboot and try again. Let me know if this fixes it.
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Didn't do a thing when I was at work with a -100dB signal strength.
I'm running StrongSteve's stock modded rom. But there's only one Sprint tower in my town.

Galaxy Nexus T-Mobile 1900 mhz

Does anyone under the new 1900mhz spectrum report better signal in buildings?

I love penetrating buildings
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maybe my favorite thing to do!

b1337 said:
I love penetrating buildings
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Ahem, do you need a professional ?

طوني تبولة said:
Ahem, do you need a professional ?
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Apparently they do.

Whats this 1900 talk? Is it faster 4g or something?
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nighthawk626 said:
Whats this 1900 talk? Is it faster 4g or something?
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I believe its the same 4g just on another frequency which is better than the 2100 MHz tmobile is currently using. My question is as the frequency is obviously lower which should mean better signal in buildings, if it is translating into this.
This also means iphones should now be able to use 3g or 4g whatever it is on tmobile's network. YouTube T-Mobile iPhone 3g to see some areas already have coverage.

I noticed I had better signal yesterday, in my place of work. Usually in the middle of the store, I get little to no signal.
I have a feeling that maybe it was just chance, but I'll see again tonight. I think I still lost signal in a few places. But it was better in the places that I used to get 1 bar.

Guessing this new frequency is out everywhere?

BennyJr said:
Guessing this new frequency is out everywhere?
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I was about to edit my post but I'll just quote you and say:
I'm not even sure if it's out over here. I just happen to notice a little better performance last night and then saw this today.
Could just be my mind trying to connect dots that aren't there. :laugh:

BennyJr said:
Guessing this new frequency is out everywhere?
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There's a map online of places where people have reported the new freqiency . Might not be the greatest source as it isn't official but taking a look won't hurt. I live in south Florida and I get signal mostly everywhere except at the mall and in my living room.

Im on straight talk so im wondering if im SOL :\

How the hell do you know what frequency you're currently on?
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colonelcack said:
How the hell do you know what frequency you're currently on?
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Good question you can't tell unless you have an iPhone or an att phone on tmobile and can now use their 3g/4g as att 3g works on the 1900 MHz frequency that T-Mobile has been rolling out recently. Another way to tell might be if your signal is better I buildings where they were pretty poor but that's subjective.

BennyJr said:
Im on straight talk so im wondering if im SOL :\
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Well to my understanding doesn't straight talk work on T-Mobile's towers.

Rafael S. said:
Well to my understanding doesn't straight talk work on T-Mobile's towers.
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Yeah that's why im thinking it will work

So has anyone confirmed their Galaxy Nexus running on T-Mobiles 1900mhz spectrum

www.airportal.de shows you where Tmobile has refarmed their 1900mhz from 2g to 3g. It won't be in all markets due to lack of spectrum, but a lot of the spectrum gained from the failed ATT takeover has helped them to be able to do this.
I won't mention exactly, but there are other forums to check out that have hundreds of posts talking about the coverage, finding out how/where your phone might be connected, etc.
Also, some have mentioned better coverage in a building. If there is, I doubt it's due to the frequency. Tmobile uses 1700mhz for their hspa+ currently, and the 2100mhz side is for the uplink on that. 1900mhz would technically have worse coverage since it is higher than 1700mhz, but in the real world I don't think it's that big of a difference. Someone with more physics knowledge add or correct me on this.
Edit: The map I linked is obviously user reports. So, it's only as good as that and obviously nothing official. Also, Tmobile's officially launched 1900mhz 3g in Las Vegas and somewhere in Kansas so far.

Rafael S. said:
Good question you can't tell unless you have an iPhone or an att phone on tmobile and can now use their 3g/4g as att 3g works on the 1900 MHz frequency that T-Mobile has been rolling out recently. Another way to tell might be if your signal is better I buildings where they were pretty poor but that's subjective.
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You can also go to the service menu and select USA band instead of automatic. This will use the 1900 band. If you get 3g you are in an area with 1900 that got refarmed.
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Is there anyway to make it switch automatically and do you have to do this every time you reboot?

T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Is Future Proofed With LTE

T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Passes Through The FCC, Is Future Proofed With LTE
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-through-the-fcc-is-future-proofed-with-lte/
850/1900 GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/1700/1900 WCDMA/HSPA, Band 4 (5, 10, 15, 20 MHz), 17 LTE (5, 10 MHz).
Yup, that’s both 700 MHz for LTE roaming and 1700 MHz (T-Mobile’s AWS band) for LTE, which means only one thing — the Galaxy Note II is future proofed for T-Mobile’s LTE network, coming in 2013.
The rest of the report is under confidentiality so there isn’t a whole lot else we can discover from the FCC filings, but at this point the presence of LTE was the only unknown we had hoped to find. The rest of the Note II is pretty standard globally so we don’t expect any more surprises. To be honest, with the discovery of LTE on board, we can’t think of any better surprises.
While it’s true my excitement of LTE and future-proofing may be preliminary, the Galaxy Note II is likely to be a device many of you consider to be the best of both the tablet and smartphone world. The knowledge that the device will be ready and waiting for T-Mobile’s LTE network to go live in 2013 and won’t require a new piece of hardware is just a little bit of comfort in a world where hardware turns over far faster than our upgrade dates.

Cool...but. I'll be using my Note 3 by the time you see LTE on your Note 2

No need to wait for LTE, HSPA+ for now is just as fast if not faster in places. As far as getting LTE it adds/keeps value when time comes to resale the device.
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acrown said:
No need to wait for LTE, HSPA+ for now is just as fast if not faster in places. As far as getting LTE it adds/keeps value when time comes to resale the device.
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Haha... that's where the LTE rumors started... I'd totally forgot about the FCC filings... of course sometimes they're not always true, but this looks right

shook187 said:
Cool...but. I'll be using my Note 3 by the time you see LTE on your Note 2
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Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.

akkidy said:
Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.
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Agreed! Wifi Calling is ingenious! That's also the reason why I won't get any other non-T-Mobile branded phone.

achusaysblessyou said:
Agreed! Wifi Calling is ingenious! That's also the reason why I won't get any other non-T-Mobile branded phone.
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I do wifi calling without even needing a carrier.
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For wifi calling use Talkatone and your Gvoice account if you have limited minutes on t-mobile. It's unlimited incoming and outgoing over wifi or 3g. And you have the benefit of having a second number to give out.
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akkidy said:
Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.
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Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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zen0s said:
Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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does voice and sms/mms...both work over wifi....

zen0s said:
Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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Covers them all.

LTE capability confirmed by T-Mobile. http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mo...idden-lte-support-same-hardware-as-att-model/

Very grateful to you all of the news, once again, are looking forward to your update ah

Should the tmo gn2 show H instead of 4g on the top? I'm ALWAYS in 4g. I just assumed I'd seen an H pop up from time to time and I'm in Chicago.
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keebs29 said:
Should the tmo gn2 show H instead of 4g on the top? I'm ALWAYS in 4g. I just assumed I'd seen an H pop up from time to time and I'm in Chicago.
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The h is basically their 3.5 g before they upgraded it to their higher hspa+ network
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Has anyone tried slipping an At&t LTE micro sim (dirty i know), into the Tmo Note2?
I know we're all supposedly waiting for an update to the radio firmware but can't hurt to ask.
None of my friends have an LTE microsim phone.

Is there any LTE enabling hacks for T999? T-Mobile USA

I've read YES, I've read NO...?
Is there anyway to enable and use LTE on the T999 on T-Mobile?
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Try going to Canada that's the only place that uses the same LTE frequency that T-Mobile will be using. Might work like the Nexus 4
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The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
Edit: So far it would seem that the LTE supposedly in this phone doesn't run on the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile plans to use for LTE.

plat_ said:
The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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plat_ said:
The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Can you support this info?
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Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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woostar88 said:
Can you support this info?
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@woostar88
I've spent probably two hours in the last few days purely searching and reading whatever specs I can grab, including for FCC ID A3LSGHT999. Every time I'm sure, something knocks me back down to unsure status. It's especially confusing when Samsung, the maker of the phone and the Snapdragon platform it runs on, says it does support LTE - then T-Mobile comes in and says nope (and that it's based on the Snapdragon MSM8260 instead? wtf?).
While they are contradicting their hardware vendor, they have support reps saying both yes and no. No wonder nobody knows anything,
but I'm determined now.
Unfortunately for me I'm not as privy as I should be to the massive amount of terminology and mobile spectrum standards that have been bestowed upon us, but a little more research should bring me up to speed.
My answer until I have a better one is that yes it very much is an MSM8960, and yes, it does support LTE.
No, the LTE this hardware supposedly supports is not using the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile in the US eventually will (like snoopy1e11 said in this thread).

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clninja said:
Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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newageoutlaw said:
Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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elesbb said:
For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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Your first three points have no influence from the chip design; The (in)ability to unlock a device is controlled by software, the (in)ability to use a SIM card from another provider (which is generally the exact same hardware) is controlled by software, and the (in)ability to register it to another provider's network is controlled by software, as long as the hardware radio chipset can speak the network's frequency and mobile protocol.
I don't know off-hand why it won't connect to AT&T's LTE. I'm also not an electronics expert but I can imagine that these chipsets can be controlled with firmware to restrict the frequencies the radio may generate or receive, effectively locking it to a provided number of frequencies assigned to the mobile operator.

elesbb said:
Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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100% agreed.
The best arguments for and against have already been made. All i see this doing is mirroring all other threads on the same topic. Tempers may flare, infractions might be made, all because no one wants to be wrong and cant wait a year or two when the subject actually becomes relavent.
Search and read. Hint: general section.
It can be disabled on both the hw and sw side. In the end it doesn't matter because the T999 was never certified/cleared by the FCC for LTE. So they'd either have to go back through the process or be fined for breaking the law.
I'm convinced it won't happen, but to each his own opinion.
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The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no

evil1art said:
The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no
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In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.

Don_Perrignon said:
In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.
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You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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elesbb said:
You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.

Don_Perrignon said:
Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.
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Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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So, then it's a matter of each carrier having so many licenses to certain spectrums... Like I have 600,000 licenses of something and you have 700,000 of another and we give each other 300,000? Is that kind of what's going on here?

Sort of, but Im not sure it works entirely like that.
I do know that Tmobile received enough to support approximately 60 million new customers in 15 of the top 25 markets, while Verizon received enough to support 22 million, plus cash and such.
I don't really know how the licensing works, but I don't think it goes by the number of users or anything like that, but by frequency ranges. Id imagine theres more to it than just you give me x and I give you y though.
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Such hostility in here over a easy to answer question.
In short:
No there is not a way to enable it, as it has not been implemented by t mo just yet.
Yes it will require a radio update.
Yes the s3 (even the t mo version) is LTE capable.
Was that it or did I miss another question?