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How do I use this to roam on to verizon's 3g network?
Anyone? I was under the impression that roaming onto verizon's 3g was the only benefit of 11114. Should I just switch to a normal prl?
na i wouldent switch it roams too verizon when needed but id update to 1115 ive had it since the post was put out and ive liked it so far ive got better roaming service in my house and ****
Roam control in the market lets you force roaming. Highly recommended .
I recently upgraded to 11115 and I'm still unable to roam on to data (even when using roam control.) What gives?
shadowlink217 said:
I recently upgraded to 11115 and I'm still unable to roam on to data (even when using roam control.) What gives?
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What state r u in?
There are a few ( I can't remember which ones) that Sprint doesn't broadcast on a band that would allow for Roam Control to work. I know Florida is one of those states because I live there and NO Roam Control for me .
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From Roam Control; developers website:
Q: When I select "roam only", why does the phone have no signal?
A: Chances are you have a Samsung phone, right? Samsung phones have different behavior - when in "roam only", they only roam on the 800mhz frequency band. There are areas in the US that are 1900mhz only, which means that Samsung phones will not get a signal in those areas.
Most if not all of Florida falls under 1900mhz only. I believe parts of Texas is as well.
I live in Houston, TX the prl 11114 does not work for me. I use the normal prl 60890 or something like that from sprint.
Modded EVO 4G sending you this from the dark side of the moon.
I live in connecticut; regular roaming works just fine with roam control, I'm just unable to roam on 3g.
Roam Control. Here is the link if anyone was looking for this great app
http://www.roamctrl.com/
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It currently supports HTC and Samsung phones, and it is geared towards Sprint users.
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LOL so true. You have to roam to get any kind of usable data on Sprint.
spencer88 said:
LOL so true. You have to roam to get any kind of usable data on Sprint.
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This one will let roam at 1x only.
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This one will let roam at 1x only.
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Oh. It doesn't do full 3G roaming?
spencer88 said:
Oh. It doesn't do full 3G roaming?
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No it just locks your phone to regular 1x roaming.
I also noticed when i used this, that if i do a whatismyip i am actually still on sprint
Even if we use custom PRL like 11115? I had 1.70 installed, just updated/downgraded to this one. Good thing for Titanium BackUp!
EDIT...on the 11115 PRL you can still roam 3G. 11115 PRL is a Sprint PRL for Business lines that allow roaming on 3G.
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This one will let roam at 1x only.
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You are incorrect.
Roam Control does not decide whether you roam 1x or 3g. Your roaming data speed is governed by your PRL and/or the roaming agreements Sprint has with other carriers.
For example, in northern Wisconsin, Sprint has a full 3G roaming agreement with Alltel which was maintained because Verizon was forced to divest those towers to Cellcom. This is available to all Sprint customers. In southern Wisconsin, you are able to get a "corporate" PRL (like 11115), which enables 3g roaming.
In other states, where roaming is on Verizon, Sprint forces 1x roaming, and the only way around it is to use a hacked Verizon PRL.
Roam Control is a fantastic program that works perfectly for me, but I'm fortunate to be in a valid 3G roaming zone!
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You are incorrect.
Roam Control does not decide whether you roam 1x or 3g. Your roaming data speed is governed by your PRL and/or the roaming agreements Sprint has with other carriers.
For example, in northern Wisconsin, Sprint has a full 3G roaming agreement with Alltel which was maintained because Verizon was forced to divest those towers to Cellcom. This is available to all Sprint customers. In southern Wisconsin, you are able to get a "corporate" PRL (like 11115), which enables 3g roaming.
In other states, where roaming is on Verizon, Sprint forces 1x roaming, and the only way around it is to use a hacked Verizon PRL.
Roam Control is a fantastic program that works perfectly for me, but I'm fortunate to be in a valid 3G roaming zone!
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I've never heard of anyone roaming naturally (when sprint signal is nonexistent) on anything higher than 1x and without a hacked verizon prl. I only use Roam Control at work, where Sprint signal is so low, the radio drains the battery 10 times faster than normal. And it works great.
But sure, here.
I'll rephrase:
Unless you are already able to roam on 3G w/o Roam Control, Roam Control will let roam at 1x only. It is not a substitute for using a hacked/business PRL which allows 3G roaming.
nvm..........
nabbed said:
I've never heard of anyone roaming naturally (when sprint signal is nonexistent) on anything higher than 1x and without a hacked verizon prl. I only use Roam Control at work, where Sprint signal is so low, the radio drains the battery 10 times faster than normal. And it works great.
But sure, here.
I'll rephrase:
Unless you are already able to roam on 3G w/o Roam Control, Roam Control will let roam at 1x only. It is not a substitute for using a hacked/business PRL which allows 3G roaming.
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Ok, I have poor signal at one of my workplaces and am interested in this program. Do you set it on "Roam only" when you get to work? And what's the difference between "Automatic" mode on Roam Control vs. just letting your phone decide whether it will roam or not?
beezar said:
Ok, I have poor signal at one of my workplaces and am interested in this program. Do you set it on "Roam only" when you get to work? And what's the difference between "Automatic" mode on Roam Control vs. just letting your phone decide whether it will roam or not?
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on automatic you will stay on sprint even registering zero bars but having "1/2" bars worth of sprint... even if you have 5 on VZ other. roam only is exactly what it says, and im not sure theres anywhere there would be an advantage to sprint only... a joke maybe? MrGreg has a thread somewhere on xda too... hes really good w responsing to questions/issues. best app ive ever had.
i am not sure what this does. so if my signal is non existant on 3g or 1x then this will allow me to jump to a different carrier? running blazer with el26 modem and the rouge el29kernal.
fallenraven75 said:
i am not sure what this does. so if my signal is non existant on 3g or 1x then this will allow me to jump to a different carrier? running blazer with el26 modem and the rouge el29kernal.
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If your Sprint signal is low and this drains your battery (which is almost always the case), you have a choice to roam on a different network, whose signal is usually much stronger. You lose the bandwidth (from 3g to 1x - 2.5mbps to 128kbps), but you will improve the battery life (compared to losing something like 10% battery an hour in idle).
I usually only lose about 1% battery per hour with 3+ Sprint bars of signal. But at work, my signal is 0-1 bars, and the battery loss is close to 10% per hour.
By using Roam Control and setting it to roam only, I can have normal battery drain - 1% an hour.
I personally have never got this dang thing to work. When I select Roam Only, it just chills on Sprint's network still. I can be roaming (just by chance), then try 'Sprint Only' and nothing... stays in roaming.
I would love it if this worked though because I am on PRL 11115 and should be able to get 3G + I get better VZ signal in my apt. anyways.
Anyone have suggestions on what I may be doing wrong? I select Samsung in the options.
-Grand
Purchased the new version (updated server) off his website and with PRL 11115 this works like a charm with 3G roaming. Works great where the network is so saturated it is unusable with speeds on VZW ~1000kbps.
bean said:
Purchased the new version (updated server) off his website and with PRL 11115 this works like a charm with 3G roaming. Works great where the network is so saturated it is unusable with speeds on VZW ~1000kbps.
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May I ask your setup?
I am on Calk's 2.8, EL26 modem I get nothing. Does it automatically switch for you pretty quick? God, my Sprint signal blows balls here. Plus, when I do get my phone to roam, i get almost full bars and fast vzw 3g speeds. So, I know the PRL and all allows it, but missing something here.
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I've never heard of anyone roaming naturally (when sprint signal is nonexistent) on anything higher than 1x and without a hacked verizon prl. I only use Roam Control at work, where Sprint signal is so low, the radio drains the battery 10 times faster than normal. And it works great.
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All I can say is when I was running the stock PRL that came with the phone, I indeed had 3G roaming in northern Wisconsin (although it was rev A, not rev 0) and was fast enough to comfortably use Netflix.
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grandmastem said:
May I ask your setup?
I am on Calk's 2.8, EL26 modem I get nothing. Does it automatically switch for you pretty quick? God, my Sprint signal blows balls here. Plus, when I do get my phone to roam, i get almost full bars and fast vzw 3g speeds. So, I know the PRL and all allows it, but missing something here.
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I've noticed on Calk's ROMs that after selecting a new state (automatic to Roam Only, or Roam Only to Automatic), about half the time the change won't take until I reboot the phone. Usually, when this happens, I'll get force closes for the phone process.
Try rebooting after changing the state and see if that works for you.
grandmastem said:
May I ask your setup?
I am on Calk's 2.8, EL26 modem I get nothing..
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Calk's 2.7 EL26. Radio responds instantly (LOS ==> VZW) and 3G is indicated within 8 seconds usually. I have seen information in other threads about Samsung not roaming in 3G due to a lack of PCS band. However if it is not switching at all that probably does not apply.
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I'm not calling anyone out, but be aware that pirated versions of the app will not work. It may not give you an error code, but it's not doing anything.
I just don't want the app to get a bad rep because it's "not working"
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spencer88 said:
LOL so true. You have to roam to get any kind of usable data on Sprint.
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Why are you here?
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Has anyone had in issue running this prl and roaming? My download speeds are not any quicker at all. I can run the 00001 prl and speeds pick way up, but roaming on 11115 doesn't like it's supposed to. I ran this prl on my et4g and it worked great. This prl also didn't seem to work on my previous HTC phones (Evo4g and 3d..).
Any thoughts?
Nothing?
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Nothing?
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ehhh. idk it could be just your location..
i always used 0001 until i got a termination notice then i switched to 11115 and the speeds are the same for me when i set 11115 to roam.
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Has anyone had in issue running this prl and roaming? My download speeds are not any quicker at all. I can run the 00001 prl and speeds pick way up, but roaming on 11115 doesn't like it's supposed to. I ran this prl on my et4g and it worked great. This prl also didn't seem to work on my previous HTC phones (Evo4g and 3d..).
Any thoughts?
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Two possibilities:
1) 11115 is not going to guarantee 3G roaming in all markets. Sprint only has 3G roaming for certain accounts in certain markets. No Sprint PRL will help you in those locations. You may just be in a location that Sprint does not have a 3G roaming agreement with anyone.
2) 11115 is a rather OLD PRL... It may be referring to 3G towers, but those towers may no longer be in service or have been reclassified in a roaming agreement to be 1x only.
That being said... 11115 provides 3G roaming in Milwaukee on my SG2, but 1x on my SG3. My SG3 gives me great 3G speeds on 12121.
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Two possibilities:
That being said... 11115 provides 3G roaming in Milwaukee on my SG2, but 1x on my SG3. My SG3 gives me great 3G speeds on 12121.
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Is 12121 Sprint prl.
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dito33 said:
Is 12121 Sprint prl.
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Yes..Sprint Corp PRL. I use it successfully for VZW roaming 3G while maintaining Sprint 3G while not roaming.
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Thanks! It must be the phone. My GS2 has great speed while roaming on the 11115 prl, while my GS3 can be sitting right next to it and be very slow on the same prl.
The 12121 prl wouldn't 3g roam for me in metro Detroit, but 1337 does. Fyi.
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The 12121 prl wouldn't 3g roam for me in metro Detroit, but 1337 does. Fyi.
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12121 roams me onto US Cellular as a first choice. 99% of the time it's a 3G signal. Sometimes US Cellular only has a 1x signal in an area, then I'm screwed.
If US Cellular isn't available at all, THEN is goes to Verizon.
How
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12121 roams me onto US Cellular as a first choice. 99% of the time it's a 3G signal. Sometimes US Cellular only has a 1x signal in an area, then I'm screwed.
If US Cellular isn't available at all, THEN is goes to Verizon.
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Someone please explain the procedure for manipulating the PRL.. I need to try the 0001
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880781
A few weeks ago I was in an area with LTE. I switched my radio over to LTE/CDMA to take advantage of this. After returning home and switching back over to CDMA, I noticed some issues with my data connection. In regular CDMA mode, my data connection ranges from 1-2 Mbps down and 1--20 Mbps up. My ping is usually 500 to 1000 ms, in CDMA mode or LTE mode. There is no LTE in my area. When it is in CDMA it behaves as if it is in EHRPD. Normally my speeds in CDMA (EVDO REV A) are 1-2 Mbps down and .5-1 up with about 100 ms latency.
I am running stock ROM 4.1.1 rooted with this mod installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346680. I have just removed this file with no changes to my data speed. Note that it was working fine before I put it into LTE mode. Any suggestions?
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A few weeks ago I was in an area with LTE. I switched my radio over to LTE/CDMA to take advantage of this. After returning home and switching back over to CDMA, I noticed some issues with my data connection. In regular CDMA mode, my data connection ranges from 1-2 Mbps down and 1--20 Mbps up. My ping is usually 500 to 1000 ms, in CDMA mode or LTE mode. There is no LTE in my area. When it is in CDMA it behaves as if it is in EHRPD. Normally my speeds in CDMA (EVDO REV A) are 1-2 Mbps down and .5-1 up with about 100 ms latency.
I am running stock ROM 4.1.1 rooted with this mod installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346680. I have just removed this file with no changes to my data speed. Note that it was working fine before I put it into LTE mode. Any suggestions?
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eHRPD is simply a bridge between CDMA (or EVDO in this case) and LTE, it allows the passage of network packets between the two networks seamlessly so that it can HAND OFF to LTE in the proper method without losing connectivity or requiring a NEW IP address.
In basic terms... when your phone is connected through eHRPD, it's still using the same existing EVDO network, nothing has changed there, it's just now in a "ready" state for when LTE is "active" on the phone.
So I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "behaves as if it is in eHRPD" because they are essentially the same thing, just operating on a different backbone.
If you're meaning that it's showing eHRPD instead of EVDO now, that is normal, and is most likely because they are planning on implementing LTE in your area soon, maybe not at the specific tower you're connected to, but one or more around that tower. (by soon I mean Sprint's version of the word "soon" which is anytime between now and the next several months)
But that doesn't mean it would affect your speed in any way. (not negatively NOR positively) It's just sending the data packets through a different route, it's still 3G.
Now, aside from that... in my area for example, I'm constantly jumping between 1X and 3G and the call quality is awful, this is because they are upgrading the towers here to LTE, which I confirmed with Sprint in an online chat with their level 2 or whatever Tech Service. So... This could be the source of your problem as well, but you'll need to confirm that with Sprint or check on www.s4gru.com to check their schedule... But I bet it will be worth talking to sprint about it, but you'll need at least an hour or so of free time... they aren't the fastest on checking these things, and sometimes the first person you talk to don't know squat, so you might have to get escalated to someone who can actually look at the real behind the scenes details.
I am familiar with the process that the phone uses for eHRPD. From my understanding, it should not be using eHRPD when it is not in LTE/CDMA mode. My phone was showing these upload speeds when in regular CDMA mode. It was also showing major latency, which is not from a network upgrade. The speeds are normal on my other device and I also checked with a Sprint rep. My device was also having an issue with updating the PRL and Profile. It was giving connection error 6. The rep tried resetting the connection from his end and I tried ##72786# to no avail. In the end, I just backed everything up with Titanium and restored via CWM to a much earlier backup. This fixed the latency, bandwidth and PRL/Profile update issue.
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I am familiar with the process that the phone uses for eHRPD. From my understanding, it should not be using eHRPD when it is not in LTE/CDMA mode. My phone was showing these upload speeds when in regular CDMA mode. It was also showing major latency, which is not from a network upgrade. The speeds are normal on my other device and I also checked with a Sprint rep. My device was also having an issue with updating the PRL and Profile. It was giving connection error 6. The rep tried resetting the connection from his end and I tried ##72786# to no avail. In the end, I just backed everything up with Titanium and restored via CWM to a much earlier backup. This fixed the latency, bandwidth and PRL/Profile update issue.
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It connects to eHRPD whether its in lte/cdma or just cdma only. If the tower supports eHRPD then it takes priority over EVDO wheter lte is enabled or not. Your latency issues are more than likely due to upgrades in the area. eHRPD handles CDMA 3g more efficiently preventing tower overload, allowing more consistent speeds and better hand off between networks
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So this was strange.
Riding the bus in Los Angeles listening to music and surfing the web on my phone when LTE pops up. Now as you can see I have PRL 1 which forces roaming on Verizon towers. I checked my speeds to see if this was indeed true and I was hitting 16mbps+.
This lasted about a minute until I moved out of the area and signal went back to 3G.
Anyone can explain?
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So this was strange.
Riding the bus in Los Angeles listening to music and surfing the web on my phone when LTE pops up. Now as you can see I have PRL 1 which forces roaming on Verizon towers. I checked my speeds to see if this was indeed true and I was hitting 16mbps+.
This lasted about a minute until I moved out of the area and signal went back to 3G.
Anyone can explain?
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Sure, you rode by a Sprint tower that was broadcasting LTE. You can't connect to Verizon LTE as you don't have the proper hardware (VZW LTE: 700 mhz, Sprint LTE: 1900 mhz)
http://sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=los angeles, ca
They're testing lte in los Angeles that prl is just roaming on Verizon 3g
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Sure, you rode by a Sprint tower that was broadcasting LTE. You can't connect to Verizon LTE as you don't have the proper hardware (VZW LTE: 700 mhz, Sprint LTE: 1900 mhz)
http://sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=los angeles, ca
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That doesn't explain why I don't get LTE signal on the Verizon PRL on spots I know to have Sprint LTE though. For example at home I get a steady LTE signal -although at joke speeds. sometimes I'll be hitting 4mbps other times I'll get lucky if i even hit 1mbps- but I'll still use PRL 1 and not get Sprint LTE.
So was this a glitch that made me jump on Sprint tower although I was on forced roaming?
I think of going back and testing if this happens again. For anyone in LA, this was in Figueroa and Colorado Pasadena, CA
Dude I'm rocking the same prl and I live were Verizon has lte I don't get lte .so you just lucky and live by were they're testing sprint lte
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That doesn't explain why I don't get LTE signal on the Verizon PRL on spots I know to have Sprint LTE though. For example at home I get a steady LTE signal -although at joke speeds. sometimes I'll be hitting 4mbps other times I'll get lucky if i even hit 1mbps- but I'll still use PRL 1 and not get Sprint LTE.
So was this a glitch that made me jump on Sprint tower although I was on forced roaming?
I think of going back and testing if this happens again. For anyone in LA, this was in Figueroa and Colorado Pasadena, CA
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Nice to sew there is some signs of lte in pasadena. I was in west covina over the weekend and there was no lte. There is some in el Monte apparently.
But Sprint LTE is different from PRL as PRL is just for 3g and the gs3 had two antennas .
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LA is starting to go live with LTE. Anywhere near a freeway you'll get it.
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Verizon can eat me
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This has been explained numerous times... when you are roaming (on Verizon) but you have an LTE connection, it is two different signals. You are getting EVDO/1xRTT coverage from Verizon and LTE coverage from Sprint... no one on Sprint is roaming Verizon's LTE. Two different frequency spectrums of throughput.
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This has been explained numerous times... when you are roaming (on Verizon) but you have an LTE connection, it is two different signals. You are getting EVDO/1xRTT coverage from Verizon and LTE coverage from Sprint... no one on Sprint is roaming Verizon's LTE. Two different frequency spectrums of throughput.
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Actually, I think the OP meant it's impossible to grab Sprint's LTE 1900 on a Verizon only PRL. Due to common belief, it's said you must be on a Sprint PRL that has LTE enabled to connect to it. The OP's situation is a rare one.
I wonder if Digiblur can enlighten us here, since I've always believed you needed a Sprint-Only LTE capable PRL to connect to Sprint's LTE network.
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Actually, I think the OP meant it's impossible to grab Sprint's LTE 1900 on a Verizon only PRL. Due to common belief, it's said you must be on a Sprint PRL that has LTE enabled to connect to it. The OP's situation is a rare one.
I wonder if Digiblur can enlighten us here, since I've always believed you needed a Sprint-Only LTE capable PRL to connect to Sprint's LTE network.
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Exactly this.
I wasn't aware I could jump to Sprint LTE on a Verizon only PRL considering in areas I do get Sprint LTE coverage, I won't get 4G unless I update my PRL to a Sprint one.
I hit 13mbit near the bathrooms at the universal studios Hollywood Jurassic parking lot the other week. LAX only had 8mbit LTE
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I thought there was no roaming agreement for LTE on Verizon
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I thought there was no roaming agreement for LTE on Verizon
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Hes not on Verizon LTE, he was on Sprint LTE. What he was wondering is what @Overstew posted about the "common belief is that you need a Sprint only PRL with LTE enabled to catch LTE" bit
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Can't you just check your assigned LTE IP address to see if it was issued by Verizon or not?
I bet if you look at the LTE engineering screens it shows a Sprint PCS G block connection. From what I have seen in the past, you do need a PRL with the MCC/MNC records for that Geo. I have seen the Nexus not need this, probably because it doesn't have a qualcomm chipset.
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I thought there was no roaming agreement for LTE on Verizon
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From what I know.. ..there isn't. He could use roam control to see what carrier he is on.
PRL version 1?
bad_HABIT said:
So this was strange.
Riding the bus in Los Angeles listening to music and surfing the web on my phone when LTE pops up. Now as you can see I have PRL 1 which forces roaming on Verizon towers. I checked my speeds to see if this was indeed true and I was hitting 16mbps+.
This lasted about a minute until I moved out of the area and signal went back to 3G.
Anyone can explain?
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Will someone please link me to the file for PRL version 1? (assuming this is still the best option) I am in a rural area where Verizon has 4Glte but sprint data sucks. I've searched but can't find it. Also, if I switch to s stock rooted rom, flash it, and then recover my current rom (Eclipse), will the PRL stick or revert back to what it was?
Thanks,
foos
fooshack said:
Will someone please link me to the file for PRL version 1? (assuming this is still the best option) I am in a rural area where Verizon has 4Glte but sprint data sucks. I've searched but can't find it. Also, if I switch to s stock rooted rom, flash it, and then recover my current rom (Eclipse), will the PRL stick or revert back to what it was?
Thanks,
foos
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I don't believe that is possible. Verizon and sprint use different frequencies for lte. They only share 3g and 2g frequency.
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I found 1,2,3 and a couple others but none of them will give me 3g but I know it's here. I wasn't trying to get 4g, as nice as it would be.
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