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Hey there guys, my contract with sprint is up in month or so. I'm rocking a HTC HERO running, Darch 2.7 kangslayer. Using Launcher pro as my home replacement...over clocked to 710 mhz, and im getting about a day and a half of battery on the thing [now about 10% battery], with moderate to heavy usage. Linpack says a little over 5mflops in under a second too.
I've heard things about the evo that have made me hesitant... How is the battery life.... and how easy is the rooting process...because I dont want to have to purchase multiple batteries and all that. Thanks.
XxsydenxX said:
Hey there guys, my contract with sprint is up in month or so. I'm rocking a HTC HERO running, Darch 2.7 kangslayer. Using Launcher pro as my home replacement...over clocked to 710 mhz, and im getting about a day and a half of battery on the thing [now about 10% battery], with moderate to heavy usage. Linpack says a little over 5mflops in under a second too.
I've heard things about the evo that have made me hesitant... How is the battery life.... and how easy is the rooting process...because I dont want to have to purchase multiple batteries and all that. Thanks.
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Having owned an evo for 2 months now I would buy it again in a heartbeat, battery life can be a problem though, it just depends on the phone I think. I can get 24+ hrs of idle but I don't go somewhere think OH NOEZ MY PHONE MIGHT DIE. I can usually get 8+ hrs of moderate usage, though heavy usage(playing games, having the screen on for awhile) will send my evo to a very early death.
Rooting is really simple, there's multiple guides out there. The fact that you have rooted an HTC/Android phone before will help.
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Had a stock hero and it was nice...but my EVO is a beast on stock to stock comparison. A tweaked hero may be all u need...unless of course u ditched your laptop like me
I plan to maybe use the evo for SMSing, light internet browsing, and phone calls.... nothing more then that really. would battery life be a problem honestly?
I don't think the battery life would be a problem with a more efficient ROM. I've been using CM6 and I get plenty of battery life...
I say yes. It is worth it.
Cyanogen Mod Is for the EVO as well now @[email protected]?
Where the heck have I been? I would assume having no Sense UI overlay really helps the battery life.
My wife got a Hero when I got my Evo, and looking at her screen just hurts my eyes now. You can't go back when you go with the 4.3" display. Fair warning. I charge my phone every other night with normal usage.
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XxsydenxX said:
I plan to maybe use the evo for SMSing, light internet browsing, and phone calls.... nothing more then that really. would battery life be a problem honestly?
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zaner123 said:
I don't think the battery life would be a problem with a more efficient ROM. I've been using CM6 and I get plenty of battery life...
I say yes. It is worth it.
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Would be a double yes.
Am loving this phone, was new to Android and it seemed more daunting than it really is.
I just jumped to two EVOs. I'm really nervous about it, hoping I like it. My wife has never had a smart phone so dropping $200 on a phone for her was a little scary. I'm currently using an HTC Touch Vogue hacked that's running android, so I know a lot of the ropes and what's going on...
I really wanted to wait for the Epic, but I'm tired or waiting, and I don't need a hardware keyboard... but that processor on that phone seems amazing... I'm not even really that hyped on it's screen, because of the poor resolution...
Anyway. Hoping I don't regret my purchase and think, 'Wish I had gotten an Epic', or 'Wish I had just gotten my wife an Intercept'.
You guys will love em!
I know a few people that really max out their phone usage and they love it. I know a few minimal users who dabble in "crazy **** once in a while" as well and they still love it. It's a great phone all around. The battery life is what you make it, and as stated, there are ways you can really get more "appropriate" battery life out of it.
Great device.
My wife got it as sort of a 'child' occupier for when she needs to do things and needs a way to keep our daughter entertained... She wanted an iPhone, but I talked her into a android (and there was no way I was going to AT&T), so if you have any kid education games and other misc recommendations, let me know.
Ahh, foreign territory. I know some folks put shows and what not on their phones, media to entertain and what have you, with the little ones, but I couldn't really help. There has to be plenty of options though.
fldash said:
My wife got it as sort of a 'child' occupier for when she needs to do things and needs a way to keep our daughter entertained... She wanted an iPhone, but I talked her into a android (and there was no way I was going to AT&T), so if you have any kid education games and other misc recommendations, let me know.
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It'll be good practice for your kid
Now me and 4 of my friends have EVOs and I rooted all of them. Some of this EVOs are hardware verson 003 and one of them is 002. 2 are novatec and 3 are epson. We are all running fresh 3.1.0.2 with netarchy-toastmod-4.1.8 bfs, mine has 4.1.9 BETA, but my one friend is running CM6 RC2 because he loves it. Now all of these EVOs can overclock to 1.27 GHz but when we do it they freeze and crash. My one friend can go up to 1.22 just fine but the rest of us are stuck at 1.19. I want to know why this happens. If our phones cant take that much why have it. What's the point we have 5 EVOs here none can handle it. Im I doing something wrong is the a joke WTF!!
All the phones are different. Most can't oc past 1152 without causing reboots, mine included. Other than ridiculous benchmark numbers, I don't think you'll notice a huge difference in performance.
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dglowe343 said:
All the phones are different. Most can't oc past 1152 without causing reboots, mine included. Other than ridiculous benchmark numbers, I don't think you'll notice a huge difference in performance.
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I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
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I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
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Simple answer, not all chips are made the same. They are made to minimum standards. Your chip is rated to 1 ghz, and thats what the chip company delivered.
Some chips can handle more, but thats just luck.
As far as why do people strive for the high numbers, thats personal preference. Not everyone here cares about 30+ hours of battery life. Some just like the bragging rights.
Unfortunantly, all EVO's are not created equal. You can have the same hardware and version numbers on 2 devices, but one may be able to OC that high, and one may not. This is also why not everyone can run the superbattery kernel from the Baked Snack rom. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
and c'mon, watch the language. There are rules around here, you know?
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and c'mon, watch the language. There are rules around here, you know?
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Sorry, I thought we are all adults one swear now and again wont kill anyone
andre104623 said:
I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
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actually, cm snap 7.0 and 7.1 are extremely stable, have great battery life and have excellent benchmarks as well. i dont have a single problem with cm snap kernels and i run at 1228mhz when fully charged.
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I dont really care about performance I just wanted to know why this happens and dont get me started on benchmark numbers its just and ****ing number who cares as long as the phone is running fast and sable and has good battery life then its fine some people go out of there way to make there benchmark the highest like CM-snap ver.7.0 kernel.
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that's not going out of the way... it's making the phone as fast as possible. why do anything if you aren't gonna push the limit? how are you gonna develop if you don't push the limit?
can someone please inform me how the tmobile galaxy s phone can reach quadrant scores of 2400 and im only pushing 1200
I've hit 2700 on my Evo my penor is HUGE!
haha funny i actually seen his quad score so i know its true
I wouldn't think too much of it. Cyanogen showed that the difference between 1200 and 40 gabillion in quadrant can be something as rediculous as the filesystem. I don't put much weight in those scores when comparing different phones.
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogen-demonstrates-quadrants-flaws
ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9
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ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9
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Why don't you try installing >>Snap 7.6 kernel on a Sense ROM and then try to enable TURBO? That'll *should* get you scores beyond 2000 but I'm not sure how well it works. >>Snap kernels are designed for CM ROMs ONLY and there is no support for installing a >>Snap kernel on a Sense ROM - but I've read about others who've done it. Maybe give that a try? I haven't done it so I won't be any help but I've read about it which means maybe it'll work for you.
Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.
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Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.
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Well, it does ultimately represent something. But unless you can see a real difference, I wouldn't care so much.
If your phone is snappy and smooth, it shouldn't matter what score you get in Quadrant. When I was on CM6 I was scoring 2000+, on Fresh I get around 1650 and I think my Evo is running way better with Fresh than it did with CM6.
well see ive tried fresh with the kings kernel and still not gettin that high i wanna try nets kernel but not sure which one is compatible i like baked but takes too long to boot i also like fresh
Have you tried the new official kernel? It's not going to give you crazy quadrant scores but it will make your battery last a lot longer + I think the way HTC lifted the cap makes it smoother than the custom kernels. It makes the phone more useful which IMHO is more important than Quadrant scores.
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thanks for providing me with my new signature!
I'm currently running CM6 with the standard kernel that comes with it. I'm not really looking to overclock as that drains the battery life faster and that's my main issue. My question is...with all the recent releases such as the HAVs enabled HTC kernel and those sort of updates, does Snap v. 7.6 offer any real battery life advantages?
Also, I almost installed it once, but I decided not to when it gave me the THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN TO CAUSE SUDDEN DEATH TO EVOS warning. Are my fears here unfounded?
I use the Snap kernel with no problems ever, but I haven't seen any battery benefits. Just my experience.
Supposedly snap 7.5 offers the lowest idle energy draw out of all the kernals - sense or not. I use it and get great battery life.
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I'm using the snap 7.6 with Turbo and definitely prefer it. Things feel smoother to me. I'm not sure about battery life as I just switched back to cyanogen again after a whole of not using it.
Don't worry about that message.. its just a disclaimer like people put on their roms that they aren't responsible any damage. In the snap thread the maker said there haven't been any major problems reported.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.
Snap 7.6 with turbo enabled is extremely fast, the .34 kernal is as well, so you will not find too many differences in terms of real performance... not sure of the battery differences tho. btw, this should probably not be in the dev section, more suitable for the q&a section.
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I use the Snap kernel with no problems ever, but I haven't seen any battery benefits. Just my experience.
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Hmm...alright.
Award Tour said:
Supposedly snap 7.5 offers the lowest idle energy draw out of all the kernals - sense or not. I use it and get great battery life.
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Thank you! That's great information. Is this the one listed in the "daily driver" section of the first post in the Snap thread? Do you think Snap v 7.6 w/ Turbo will have alright battery life?
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I'm using the snap 7.6 with Turbo and definitely prefer it. Things feel smoother to me. I'm not sure about battery life as I just switched back to cyanogen again after a whole of not using it.
Don't worry about that message.. its just a disclaimer like people put on their roms that they aren't responsible any damage. In the snap thread the maker said there haven't been any major problems reported.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.
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Alright Imma bite the bullet and try this. Thanks for telling me that's not a big issue. I'm in the process of reading the snap thread, but I'll never get through all 500 pages.
cmart4 said:
Snap 7.6 with turbo enabled is extremely fast, the .34 kernal is as well, so you will not find too many differences in terms of real performance... not sure of the battery differences tho. btw, this should probably not be in the dev section, more suitable for the q&a section.
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CRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. I thought I posted this in the Q&A >_< I'm so bad at this forum thing.
i use 7.6 + turbo and it rocks
Currently backing everything up and probably going to flash Snap v. 7.6 with Turbo and see how that runs. If I don't get the battery life I'm hoping for, I'll probably try 7.5. Thank you all for replying so quickly. ^_^
I have build 107 installed and snap 7.6 with turbo I've gotten with about 30 emails a day and a good amount of web browsing and flash usage over 35 hours. I think personally that's great!
The kernel in the build 100 series nightlies is very fast. As fast as 76 by my rough analysis. But I still use 7.6 because I feel the battery life is better.
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Hmm...alright.
Thank you! That's great information. Is this the one listed in the "daily driver" section of the first post in the Snap thread? Do you think Snap v 7.6 w/ Turbo will have alright battery life?
Alright Imma bite the bullet and try this. Thanks for telling me that's not a big issue. I'm in the process of reading the snap thread, but I'll never get through all 500 pages.
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yup to the daily driver.
Fwiw, the comparison tests showed that snap 7.5 is about 25% more effecient at idle than the others. I also confirmed that it goes that low.
You should check out the comparison thread in the general forum. But I def' suggest 7.5 over 7.6 - in actual use the extra quadrant points is 99% superficial. Battery life obviously isn't.
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If you are running CM6 you HAVE to run Snap v7.6 with turbo. Its smokes anything out there and the battery life is much better than a lot of other Kernels out there.
Wow! I am sold! I just a freaking 2114 on quadrant. Holy crap this thing is blazing.
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If you are running CM6 you HAVE to run Snap v7.6 with turbo.
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No, actually I don't. When they share exactly what "turbo" does, maybe.
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No, actually I don't. When they share exactly what "turbo" does, maybe.
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You are right. You have the option to miss out on a kernel that just flat out makes CM6 blaze.
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FL0OD said:
You are right. You have the option to miss out on a kernel that just flat out makes CM6 blaze.
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Besides seeing a high number in a app, do you actually experience any difference? My guess: unless it improves GPU performance, probably not.
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Besides seeing a high number in a app, do you actually experience any difference? My guess: unless it improves GPU performance, probably not.
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It is much more snappy all around. Seems as though you just want to argue with me. Try it. If you like it you like it if you don't you don't.
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FL0OD said:
It is much more snappy all around. Seems as though you just want to argue with me. Try it. If you like it you like it if you don't you don't.
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No, I'm not trying to argue. I've tried both already several times already.
I'm just saying that there's no real world noticeable/visual improvement between the two. The trade off of using 7.6 + turbo is a REAL 25% drop in idle energy efficiency.
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Besides seeing a high number in a app, do you actually experience any difference? My guess: unless it improves GPU performance, probably not.
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Yeah I gotta agree with you on this one. All I really got was an awesome quadrant score. I'm on th 7.5 one now, and surprisingly, I got lower linpacks on 7.6 than I get with 7.5. Also, Neocore scores were only .2 FPS better than previous kernels I've tried. So idk what it's doing since it doesn't seem to boost the GPU a whole lot or anything, but it DOES get really good quadrant scores.
Anyways, I'm really just wondering how you guys get decent battery life with v 7.6. I literally got about 5 hours out of it yesterday in what I would consider "moderate use." At one point I played music for 10 minutes and watched it drop from 52% down to 46%. I honestly just hope I'm just doing something wrong here, because that's absolutely insane to me.
Running EL29 Odexed Blue Rom with EL26 stock kernal.
Just came from eVo 4G and have no idea if its worth it and if so what setting.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I've not done the undervolting yet but I'm thinking about it just still reading on what I want to do. I did however do the overclocks for a few days and imo only I really saw no need for it from the stock settings so I just went back to normal. The phone is fast enough for me even playing games that extra 1-2-3-400 mhz really didn't show that much of a difference.
Again this is my opinion others see the need for it I just didn't.
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I've not done the undervolting yet but I'm thinking about it just still reading on what I want to do. I did however do the overclocks for a few days and imo only I really saw no need for it from the stock settings so I just went back to normal. The phone is fast enough for me even playing games that extra 1-2-3-400 mhz really didn't show that much of a difference.
Again this is my opinion others see the need for it I just didn't.
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Thanks for you're opinion. Let me know how the undervolting goes if you decide to do it.. I wonder if vipermod would work with this device. I had it with my evo and it was pretty easy to use.
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Thanks for you're opinion. Let me know how the undervolting goes if you decide to do it.. I wonder if vipermod would work with this device. I had it with my evo and it was pretty easy to use.
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I think viper mad some stuff for the phone. I know he has a rom out for the phone already so maybe his tweaks are there you could always check the dev section.
My phone had freezing issues at anything higher than 1.4ghz, but even then the only real difference I saw was quadrant scores. Games ran the same, in fact I think the UI actually was choppier when OC'ed. Never really looked into it much though.
I don't even know why I tried it in the first place, I never said to myself "gee, this could be faster.." I guess coming from an HTC Hero it was a habit.
this phone does NOT need to be over clocked; it is so much faster than your Evo, that you won't believe it!
Undervolting and under clocking can give you extra battery life; do a search on the Dev thread, and you will learn lots about it..