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I'm thinking of buying a galaxy nexus, but I'm on at&t cell provider called straight talk (mvno).
The only question in my mind right now is if I will be able to use google wallet under the MVNO
It would be great if someone was in my same circumstances and give me some information. Any help would do.
Thanks in advance
wirelessFREAK said:
I'm thinking of buying a galaxy nexus, but I'm on at&t cell provider called straight talk (mvno).
The only question in my mind right now is if I will be able to use google wallet under the MVNO
It would be great if someone was in my same circumstances and give me some information. Any help would do.
Thanks in advance
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Google Wallet is just an app and its not Network/Carrier driven.
I understand that, but there was an article in engadget.com about it working on Tmobile, and they seemed surprised.
It COULD have been cause they got it from the Tmobile google play store (different networks have different play stores)
I just wanted to make sure, that I could use the NFC before I buy the phone
wirelessFREAK said:
I understand that, but there was an article in engadget.com about it working on Tmobile, and they seemed surprised.
It COULD have been cause they got it from the Tmobile google play store (different networks have different play stores)
I just wanted to make sure, that I could use the NFC before I buy the phone
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Google Wallet was blocked in the past in the store. However, after it's installed, I haven't heard anything about its usage being blocked in any way.
It's not blocked in the US for the GSM version as of yesterday.
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so can I sum it up by saying that Google wallet is dependant on hardware only, and that if it works on one (US) Carrier, it should work on any other?
Please correct any inaccuracies in that statement. Please point out ANY inaccuracies.
wirelessFREAK said:
so can I sum it up by saying that Google wallet is dependant on hardware only, and that if it works on one (US) Carrier, it should work on any other?
Please correct any inaccuracies in that statement. Please point out ANY inaccuracies.
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does the phone have NFC, is android, and can install apps? if the answer is yes, then it works.
Zepius said:
does the phone have NFC, is android, and can install apps? if the answer is yes, then it works.
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That is incorrect, cause skyrocket has NFC, icecream sandwich (or legitimate GB) , and can install apps. This is still not enough to use google wallet. It's said that the reason is, that it doesn't have a "secure element"
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I have a Galaxy Nexus with Straight Talk. And it doesn't update the balance or show card info, or neither work at the terminal when I type using Straight Talk Data network.
However it works fine over wifi.
This is what I've learned from my experience. Yes theoretically it should work. But it doesn't. If anyone has tried and it works, then please share how did you work it out.
I've had ST for several months and Wallet works flawlessly - with Wi-Fi and with mobile data
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sharmelan said:
I have a Galaxy Nexus with Straight Talk. And it doesn't update the balance or show card info, or neither work at the terminal when I type using Straight Talk Data network.
However it works fine over wifi.
This is what I've learned from my experience. Yes theoretically it should work. But it doesn't. If anyone has tried and it works, then please share how did you work it out.
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Your problem is most likely your apn is not set up correctly. When I first started using wallet with H2O wireless I had much the same problem. After deleting the apn's that auto populated and creating new ones with the correct settings my problems went away. I have since tried red pocket and Tmobile prepaid as well and have had no issues using wallet on any of them.
krichek said:
Your problem is most likely your apn is not set up correctly. When I first started using wallet with H2O wireless I had much the same problem. After deleting the apn's that auto populated and creating new ones with the correct settings my problems went away. I have since tried red pocket and Tmobile prepaid as well and have had no issues using wallet on any of them.
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Hi there,
Would you guys be kind enough to grab the right APN settings and post it here for me. I have factory Reset my device twice and still failed. So I'm hoping its only a APN problem only as well.
By the way I have ATT version of SIM Card from straight talk
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aiinjylls said:
I've had ST for several months and Wallet works flawlessly - with Wi-Fi and with mobile data
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Would you care to post your APN settings for me. It'll be great..Thanks.
hi guys,
I have been a lurker for a while, didn't actually have anything meaningful to contribute (to create a new post/thread), i.e. until now!
Bought a galaxy nexus in April when Google started selling it on the Play store. I did not root it and/or modify it in anyway other than trying out a few apps I developed.
Given that background, 3G/HSPA data has not been working on the phone ever since I got and installed the Jelly Bean OTA update.
I thought I also had the Wifi issues that others are facing, but it turned out to be just a setting (Keep WiFi ON during sleep was set to NEVER by the JellyBean update, am pretty sure I didn't do it).
Do you guys have any clue as to what might be happening here? Any troubleshooting tips?
I am on the AT&T prepaid, data was fine until the JellyBean update. My friend with galaxy nexus also started having this problem post the OTA update, but he is AT&T post paid.
any insights???
thank you!
EDIT:
Also, I forgot to mention in my initial post ..
I get good signals and 3G or H also shows up next to the signal bars, but they are in grey.
njsrikar said:
hi guys,
I have been a lurker for a while, didn't actually have anything meaningful to contribute (to create a new post/thread), i.e. until now!
Bought a galaxy nexus in April when Google started selling it on the Play store. I did not root it and/or modify it in anyway other than trying out a few apps I developed.
Given that background, 3G/HSPA data has not been working on the phone ever since I got and installed the Jelly Bean OTA update.
I thought I also had the Wifi issues that others are facing, but it turned out to be just a setting (Keep WiFi ON during sleep was set to NEVER by the JellyBean update, am pretty sure I didn't do it).
Do you guys have any clue as to what might be happening here? Any troubleshooting tips?
I am on the AT&T prepaid, data was fine until the JellyBean update. My friend with galaxy nexus also started having this problem post the OTA update, but he is AT&T post paid.
any insights???
thank you!
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Have you checked your apn settings?
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eqjunkie829 said:
Have you checked your apn settings?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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is there anything specific to look for in the APN settings? I never fiddled with it, so I have no clue as to what to look for etc.
Also, I forgot to mention in my initial post ..
I get good signals and 3G or H also shows up next to the signal bars, but they are in grey.
I'm having this same problem to since upgrading to Jellybean... Have you called AT&T ? I'm furious as of now with them .I purchased a 50 dollar refill and they said it just doesn't work with a 4g phone and many different excuses was fine before updating.. I did notice it says Cingular in Apn now wich it didn't before..Have you found a solution yet..???
njsrikar said:
is there anything specific to look for in the APN settings? I never fiddled with it, so I have no clue as to what to look for etc.
Also, I forgot to mention in my initial post ..
I get good signals and 3G or H also shows up next to the signal bars, but they are in grey.
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no inputs? anyone???
I attached screenshots of my phone information screen. The ping test keeps failing. Does this signify anything?
best1923 said:
I'm having this same problem to since upgrading to Jellybean... Have you called AT&T ? I'm furious as of now with them .I purchased a 50 dollar refill and they said it just doesn't work with a 4g phone and many different excuses was fine before updating.. I did notice it says Cingular in Apn now wich it didn't before..Have you found a solution yet..???
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I didn't call AT&T because I know thats exactly how they are going to reply. If you didn't know it before, AT&T claims the $50 unlimited talk/text/web is unlimited web only for dumb phones but for smartphones you`ll need a separate data top-up. However, I have been using 3G with the same SIM card from November 2011. I had a Nokia N95 till April and then bought the galaxy nexus.....I didn't add the data top-up.
So at first when I started having this problem I thought AT&T finally started blocking 3G on the nexus, but later found out that my friend who is also on AT&T but on a post paid contract also has this same problem from the day he got JB OTA.
Unfortunately, I never went to Phone Information settings until after I got the JB update, so I do not know how it was before the OTA. .
bump.
help please!!!
njsrikar said:
bump.
help please!!!
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same problem!!!! plz help
owenching said:
same problem!!!! plz help
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sorry bud ...nothing I did worked.
Now am using their prepaid data top up packs for my data needs while mobile. :-|
njsrikar said:
sorry bud ...nothing I did worked.
Now am using their prepaid data top up packs for my data needs while mobile. :-|
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maybe downgrade to 4.0.4 :-/
ok. i have tried many times to get mms working on the hov with some success, but not 100%. i now have an HTC EVO 3D. and found ( I did not come up with this) thanks to bunvilla here
http://www.cricketusers.com/sprint-...cricket-virgin-mobile-sprint-rom-release.html
it works on my 3vo. it may work here too. i am looking for a tester here. i need someone with a cricket phone on one of the virgin (based) roms.
like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2335767
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184042
it may not work, so make a backup before we start... but this is my last attempt
Thanks!
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Thanks!
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i'm guessing this worked for you too?
so latest pacman rom wont let me finish this. i use voice dialer to open apn settings and nothing happens. downloaded a shortcut for it and apparently jellybean doesnt allow 3rd party apps to change apns. so im stuck
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I have not used v19.9 I am still on v19.3 and mine works. Sometimes you have to try a couple times to get into APN settings using voice. You may want to ask the dev how to get into the APN. Or try v19.3
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And also try to say "open apn's"
One of the phones I play with is open apn , one is open apn's
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so i flashed the older version of pacman and i can access the apns now but now my gapps are all force closing. what gapps are you using?
Edit: got gapps working
2nd edit: after I configure the apns then hit save but it doesn't show my the APN with a circle to check it. The list is blank again
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so i flashed the older version of pacman and i can access the apns now but now my gapps are all force closing. what gapps are you using?
Edit: got gapps working
2nd edit: after I configure the apns then hit save but it doesn't show my the APN with a circle to check it. The list is blank again
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somewhere in your apns-config.xml you have made a mistake. i had "autocorrect problems. your apns-config.xml has to match your apn created or your created will disappear. but did you test it? this happened to me on evervol, but mms still worked. i have attached a screenshot of apns-config. put your number where the x's are
also there is a build.prop and a build.prop~ edit both the same way
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somewhere in your apns-config.xml you have made a mistake. i had "autocorrect problems. your apns-config.xml has to match your apn created or your created will disappear. but did you test it? this happened to me on evervol, but mms still worked. i have attached a screenshot of apns-config. put your number where the x's are
also there is a build.prop and a build.prop~ edit both the same way
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Tried again and went through it with a fine toothed comb. When auto correct did change something I would fix it but still no go. I'm not new to messing with cricket apns as I did it a couple years ago with my og moto droid i flashed from verizon to cricket every time I flashed a new ROM as well but back then we needed the auto start apk as well. I just can't get the apns To save after creating them. Also, went to about phone after messing work the build prop and network carrier still says virgin mobile
either here or in pm let me see a couple screen shots of your apn-config.xml and your build.prop in the right places. also did you change both build.prop. and mine too states virgin mobile in phone info on the testing menu. have you tried a test to your email?
do you have your es file explorer set with all the check marks under root checked?
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Found the problem, under MNC it should be 16 instead of 016. It won't save with the zero for some reason it deletes the whole apn
CreepyE said:
Found the problem, under MNC it should be 16 instead of 016. It won't save with the zero for some reason it deletes the whole apn
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good deal!!! so you are working now??
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jaredl45600 said:
good deal!!! so you are working now??
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Yes sir. Just did the wifeys phone as well. She liked the pacman ROM and with this MMS is working so she couldn't be happier. Thank you sir
CreepyE said:
Yes sir. Just did the wifeys phone as well. She liked the pacman ROM and with this MMS is working so she couldn't be happier. Thank you sir
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very welcome!
tested with PROVISION v5.1
works!
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jaredl45600 said:
tested with PROVISION v5.1
works!
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Should work with every single CDMA ROM. Thatsnhow we did it in the og droid days
this is a great write up and partly solved my annoying issue. i say partly cuz im running the aokp cm10 android 4.1.2 i have ran a great # of others as well without mms capabilities till now...
so my issue is i can now,send mms but cannit receive them still. i have scoured the areas thay ive made changes in even after reading prior post regatding mnc—"16" instead of"016" originally i used "016 which worked the same.
any suggestuons or known solutiobs?
Disnick81 said:
this is a great write up and partly solved my annoying issue. i say partly cuz im running the aokp cm10 android 4.1.2 i have ran a great # of others as well without mms capabilities till now...
so my issue is i can now,send mms but cannit receive them still. i have scoured the areas thay ive made changes in even after reading prior post regatding mnc—"16" instead of"016" originally i used "016 which worked the same.
any suggestuons or known solutiobs?
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i have found that sometimes mms is fine, and sometimes it will not recieve. i have tried many things. the last thing i was going to try was the "auto retrieve" i will report
jaredl45600 said:
i have found that sometimes mms is fine, and sometimes it will not recieve. i have tried many things. the last thing i was going to try was the "auto retrieve" i will report
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quick update: retried twice the whole process neginning with restoring bavkup prior to initial try. both times upon completion of process i was able to send a single mms to a friends phone and they tried sending one back with no luck and mine would stay suspended in sebding till funally terminating itself... frustrating to say the least when u think youve fibally cracked it.. but much appreciation for ur diligemce and efforts my friend ! would love an update...and my pic messages back ...
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Will do some more work
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RingPlus is a Sprint MVNO who offers Sprint service at insanely affordable prices.
I modified the apns-conf.xml that was uploaded by octhrope to work on Ting (another Sprint MVNO) so that those of us on RingPlus could get some 4G LTE action on custom ROMs.
The following zips are flashable in recovery and each one should make a backup of your current apns-conf.xml should you need to revert. It saves it as a .bak file in the same location - you only need to go rename the old file to get your apns bak (See what I did there?)
The 4.4 APN file is the only one I have personally tested. I can confirm it works to provide 4G LTE (as well as 3G) on PSX, Rastacat and OMNI.
Thanks to the following xda users for figuring out the Ting APNs and indirectly helping me solve the issue for R+:
octhrope, poo706 and t3rmin
Nice job! I'm going to test it. I'm running omni 4.4
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Swav3y said:
Nice job! I'm going to test it. I'm running omni 4.4
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It seems to be working fine on PSX ROM as well. I think I'm going to switch back to OMNI because my battery life was pretty terrible today.
What do I need to get my phone to work on this service?
oohaylima said:
What do I need to get my phone to work on this service?
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Well... Register the phone on the website. Put money in your account. You'll probably need to do this on the Stock ROM... Activate your phone. Update PRL and Profile. If you want MMS to work, you'll have to dial ##DATA# and edit the MMSC to the one used by Ringplus. They charge $.07 per MMS and MMS aren't included in any of the plans.
Then if you so desire, flash another ROM and use the file I posted to update your APN so that data/MMS will work.
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Ringplus is another of the many Sprint MVNOs offering 4G service. However, I couldn't get data to work at all outside of the Stock ROM. After a couple hours of digging around inside ##DATA# and the Mobile Settings and playing around with Poo_706's Ting APNs, I finally figured out how to get 4G working on Ringplus. Wanted to share it with the world.
This is confirmed working on Rastacat. I assume it will work on any 4.4 ROM. I'm about to test PSX and see if it works there, too.
Theoretically this should flash in recovery, but if it doesn't, try extracting the apns-conf.xml and replacing the one in System -> etc. Be sure to set permissions to rw-r--r--.
Feel free to click Thanks if this helps you.
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I'm interested in what Ringplus needed for 4g; cause it looks like just the modified Ting apns.
You're welcome for the installer by the by.
octhrope said:
I'm interested in what Ringplus needed for 4g; cause it looks like just the modified Ting apns.
You're welcome for the installer by the by.
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The first five lines are almost identical to the Ting APNs I borrowed from you and/or poo706. The only thing I changed was the apn name: Sprint uses the apn "n.ispsn", Ting uses the apn "n.t8.ispsn" and Ringplus uses the apn "n.r5.ispsn".
I didn't check to see if that was enough to fix it, but did notice in my APN settings that the protocols were IPV4 on stock, so I added the bottom two lines and pretty much copied exactly what my stock APNs showed up as using an app to look at the APN settings. I changed the protocols from "IPV4V6" to just "IPV4".
Small changes, but the Ting APNs didn't give me ANY data at all (neither did the stock APNs for Kit Kat). I only had Wi-Fi. Using these I have working 1x, 3g and LTE (depending on location)
loveVII said:
The first five lines are almost identical to the Ting APNs I borrowed from you and/or poo706. The only thing I changed was the apn name: Sprint uses the apn "n.ispsn", Ting uses the apn "n.t8.ispsn" and Ringplus uses the apn "n.r5.ispsn".
I didn't check to see if that was enough to fix it, but did notice in my APN settings that the protocols were IPV4 on stock, so I added the bottom two lines and pretty much copied exactly what my stock APNs showed up as using an app to look at the APN settings. I changed the protocols from "IPV4V6" to just "IPV4".
Small changes, but the Ting APNs didn't give me ANY data at all (neither did the stock APNs for Kit Kat). I only had Wi-Fi. Using these I have working 1x, 3g and LTE (depending on location)
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The stock apns are different, they don't play by the rules of the custom roms... The original ting post in the depreciated section of my post might be the best place to start from.
If you want I can change the installer to say Ringplus instead of Ting.
octhrope said:
The stock apns are different, they don't play by the rules of the custom roms... The original ting post in the depreciated section of my post might be the best place to start from.
If you want I can change the installer to say Ringplus instead of Ting.
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I agree that the apns-conf.xml on stock is completely useless. Mine was pretty much blank and had no correlation to the data settings on my phone. I used "APN Settings Shortcut" to see what the actual APN settings were that were giving me a data connection on stock, and then translated that information into the apns-conf.xml I used for my 4.4 ROM.
I couldn't figure out how to change the install manifest or whatever it was, so I just left it alone. lol If you want to change it for me, that would be much appreciated.
By the way, in case I haven't clarified yet I'm extremely grateful to you, poo706 and t3rmin for paving the way on the APN settings. I wouldn't have figured it out without being able to look at your work.
loveVII said:
I agree that the apns-conf.xml on stock is completely useless. Mine was pretty much blank and had no correlation to the data settings on my phone. I used "APN Settings Shortcut" to see what the actual APN settings were that were giving me a data connection on stock, and then translated that information into the apns-conf.xml I used for my 4.4 ROM.
I couldn't figure out how to change the install manifest or whatever it was, so I just left it alone. lol If you want to change it for me, that would be much appreciated.
By the way, in case I haven't clarified yet I'm extremely grateful to you, poo706 and t3rmin for paving the way on the APN settings. I wouldn't have figured it out without being able to look at your work.
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yeah the lg apns are a joke. but the apns are actually different for stock vs custom 4.2. 4.3/4.4 are different from 4.2. apn version number mostly.
word, i'll get it changed for you.
octhrope said:
yeah the lg apns are a joke. but the apns are actually different for stock vs custom 4.2. 4.3/4.4 are different from 4.2. apn version number mostly.
word, i'll get it changed for you.
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I did know there was a difference between 4.3/4.4 and other versions, but copying the stock (4.1.2 on the OG) settings I found with the app worked for me. Although, it could have been the 5 lines I borrowed from poo706's 4.3/4.4 Ting APN that I crammed into your installer...
Who knows. It works for Rastacat and PSX (both 4.4 ROMs) :victory: . I could probably pinpoint which changes made it work, but I'm lazy.
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Well... Register the phone on the website. Put money in your account. You'll probably need to do this on the Stock ROM... Activate your phone. Update PRL and Profile. If you want MMS to work, you'll have to dial ##DATA# and edit the MMSC to the one used by Ringplus. They charge $.07 per MMS and MMS aren't included in any of the plans.
Then if you so desire, flash another ROM and use the file I posted to update your APN so that data/MMS will work.
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Most excellent. I just removed this phone from Ting. Looking forward to see how this service plays out.
Did anyone have trouble activating their phone?
oohaylima said:
Did anyone have trouble activating their phone?
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Are you talking about getting it to activate on the Ringplus website or getting your phone to activate the service?
Getting the website to activate my phone took me a couple tries. I kept typing in the ICCID wrong... Double check the numbers.
Just FYI, you have to get Ting to release your phone before Ringplus will let you add it. Unfortunately, Ting doesn't hold your number once it releases your phone, so if you go this route, you're going to get a new number.
Ringplus will let you port your number for $7. But in order to get this to work you either:
A) Activate a different device with Ringplus so that you can port your number, then switch devices.
B) Switch devices on Ting so that you can activate with Ringplus, then once you have the correct device, port your number and cancel your Ting account.
C) Pay $20 to port your number to Google Voice, then another $7 to port to Ringplus...
If you have an extra Sprint device laying around, you're golden... If not, you can still be golden if you have $20 and a lot of patience to wait for ports to go through... Otherwise you can be like me and just change your number haha
Yeah. It wouldn't accept the ESN. Said that it's not on the system. I called Ting and they said they already released the phone from their network.
Is there another way to see our ESN besides looking into the About section? Maybe it's displaying wrong....I don't know. Ringplus woes. Lol
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Yeah. It wouldn't accept the ESN. Said that it's not on the system. I called Ting and they said they already released the phone from their network.
Is there another way to see our ESN besides looking into the About section? Maybe it's displaying wrong....I don't know. Ringplus woes. Lol
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Try the MEID Dec under About Phone... That's what worked for me.
Finally got this phone on. Woohoo! For the price tag, I love this service!
With the new APN file, nothing is showing when I open up the APN option in voice dialer, but when I put back the old one, a list of them show. Any ideas?
oohaylima said:
Finally got this phone on. Woohoo! For the price tag, I love this service!
With the new APN file, nothing is showing when I open up the APN option in voice dialer, but when I put back the old one, a list of them show. Any ideas?
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Yeah, the price point is PERFECT.
What version of Android are you on? I added flashable ZIPs for 4.1-4.2 / 4.3 / 4.4
I can confirm the 4.4 zip works on PSX, Rastacat and OMNI
loveVII said:
Yeah, the price point is PERFECT.
What version of Android are you on? I added flashable ZIPs for 4.1-4.2 / 4.3 / 4.4
I can confirm the 4.4 zip works on PSX, Rastacat and OMNI
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It just miraculously started working. Go figure. The only thing that's boggling my mind is the MMS. Keeps telling me service is not activated. Crazy.
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oohaylima said:
It just miraculously started working. Go figure. The only thing that's boggling my mind is the MMS. Keeps telling me service is not activated. Crazy.
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Have you updated your MMSC address?
If so, I think you may have to have some money in your account. MMS costs $.07 each and aren't included in the plan rates. I couldn't get them to send either, but after adding money to my account it went through. Perhaps that was the issue?
Hi,
after using the CM13 for awhile, I need to find working replacement.
Honestly CM13 was slower and less responsive compared to CM12 on the Maguro.
However I need working and up to date ROM to install Android Auto, working GPS, ability to use Play Store.
I'm not keen to use latest the greatest as I have also Nexus 6, where I run 7.1.1
Maguro is mainly used for car navigation, I need at least Android 5 based one.
Thanks all!
Decisions, Decisions...
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Hi,
after using the CM13 for awhile, I need to find working replacement.
Honestly CM13 was slower and less responsive compared to CM12 on the Maguro.
However I need working and up to date ROM to install Android Auto, working GPS, ability to use Play Store.
I'm not keen to use latest the greatest as I have also Nexus 6, where I run 7.1.1
Maguro is mainly used for car navigation, I need at least Android 5 based one.
Thanks all!
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I have a pair of recommendations for you and your maguro GNex; both are N-based, at that.
There is Unlegacy 7.1 (AOSP-based 7.1), which is - for now - the ONLY 7.1 or later-based ROM that can be reliably installed clean. The usual prerequisites apply (root and third-party recovery - I've used TWRP extensively with this ROM, and all versions from 2.7.1.0 to 3.0.2.0 will work with it). My other recommendation is PureNexus 7.1.1; contrary to Unlegacy, it should be installed as an upgrade - in other words, do NOT wipe before installing. You can install the newer GApps along with the ROM the same way, or let the update process handle GApp upgrading - both methods, in fact, work.
Which you should choose may well depend on whether or not you want either GoogleAssistant and/or Pixel Launcher. Pixel Launcher is, in fact, included with PureNexus 7.1.1 - as is Google Assistant; Google Assistant is addable to Unlegacy 7.1; however, I could not get Pixel Launcher to install on it. Pixel Launcher WILL work with Google Assistant - PureNexus is plenty of hard data on that front. What I like about PureNexus is that it has a lot of customization designed-in - including options that no other firmware offers; it reminds me a lot of Object Desktop for Windows, to be honest.
Both Unlegacy and PureNexus are unified; they will install the same way on any version of tuna-based hardware - maguro, toro, and toroplus (GSM, CDMA, and W-CDMA/Sprint, respectively) You would no more lose features by not running on toro hardware than I do by not running on maguro hardware..
PGHammer said:
(...)My other recommendation is PureNexus 7.1.1; (..).
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I could not find that for maguro. Are you sure?
Thank you!
will give them a try
Ahkah said:
I could not find that for maguro. Are you sure?
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The original developer has maguro; however, it was developed as neutral; there are (literally) no maguro-isms in the code (I myself have toro hardware, and the phone in question is ex-VZW and is on the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network).
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I could not find that for maguro. Are you sure?
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http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120698603
rahimali said:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120698603
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Thanks!
But there is no website or discussion thread regarding PureNexus for "Tuna", is it?
Ahkah said:
Thanks!
But there is no website or discussion thread regarding PureNexus for "Tuna", is it?
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I think not.
Ahkah said:
Thanks!
But there is no website or discussion thread regarding PureNexus for "Tuna", is it?
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Reason...!! Here it is [ https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69354816&postcount=16 ]
__Madddy said:
Reason...!! Here it is [ https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69354816&postcount=16 ]
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Thanks! On the other hand: One could try to use Google Translate for translations from Japanese to English. This might be better than nothing.
That's a damn fast ROM! Really enjoyed it.
Big thanks to the devs
TodNex said:
Hi,
after using the CM13 for awhile, I need to find working replacement.
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The same main developers created CM 12, CM 13, and Unlegacy 7.1, so those are what I would suggest! Not many choices!
So far Unlegacy 7.1 is far better handling than CM13. I'm impressed
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The original developer has maguro; however, it was developed as neutral; there are (literally) no maguro-isms in the code (I myself have toro hardware, and the phone in question is ex-VZW and is on the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network).
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How's mobile network stuff working for you? I've got a toro on Page Plus (which is now also using 'the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network'). I had been trying to get mobile data working on unlegacy-7.1, but I gave up a while ago. My daily driver had been cm13, but when Page Plus changed their APNs to tracfone, it broke mobile data and it took me better than a week to figure out what was going on. I got sick of it and switched to unlegacy-4.4 (which is a great ROM, by the way).
tl;dr: Do mobile data and mms work for you on a toro on tracfone?
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How's mobile network stuff working for you? I've got a toro on Page Plus (which is now also using 'the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network'). I had been trying to get mobile data working on unlegacy-7.1, but I gave up a while ago. My daily driver had been cm13, but when Page Plus changed their APNs to tracfone, it broke mobile data and it took me better than a week to figure out what was going on. I got sick of it and switched to unlegacy-4.4 (which is a great ROM, by the way).
tl;dr: Do mobile data and mms work for you on a toro on tracfone?
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I am not a fan of mobile data (as I don't get that much of it) - in fact, I prefer wi-fi (not mobile data) as I am almost ALWAYS near either a hotspot or a router; for that reason, I can't really reply to that question. I've never had issues with either SMS or MMS on Unlegacy or PureNexus for Tuna (which I installed as an upgrade from Unlegacy). Are you, in fact, aware that MMS and SMS CAN be used over wi-fi (yes; Google Hangouts supports the feature)?
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Are you, in fact, aware that MMS and SMS CAN be used over wi-fi (yes; Google Hangouts supports the feature)?
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Sure, I can send MMS from hangouts over WiFi, but when people send group messages / MMS to my mobile phone number? Only way to receive them is over mobile data. Unless I'm missing something, and there's a way to receive MMS's to your phone number over WiFi with Page Plus? But even if I could, I don't have access to WiFi at my day job.
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Sure, I can send MMS from hangouts over WiFi, but when people send group messages / MMS to my mobile phone number? Only way to receive them is over mobile data. Unless I'm missing something, and there's a way to receive MMS's to your phone number over WiFi with Page Plus? But even if I could, I don't have access to WiFi at my day job.
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If you are in a situation where you can only be called (job-wise), usually, calling you would ALSO be a bad move - basically, if you can only be reached via mobile (voice or data), unless it's work-related, doing so would ALSO be of the bad - correct? It's also why if someone wants to MMS/SMS me, via my e-mail address (which is the default) is preferable to using my phone number - also, there are people that actually find easier to MMS/SMS me that I would rather NOT have call me. (It's an old habit from using older MMS/SMS clients - such as Yahoo Messenger - I only give out my phone number to those I am willing to actually talk to on a phone. In other words, instead of phone-number-based MMS/SMS, use your GMail-based address instead - which will help keep your mobile-data bill down. There SHOULD be a setting - either in Messaging or Hangouts - as to which to use by default. (Such a setting is NOT in Messenger.)
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If you are in a situation where you can only be called (job-wise), usually, calling you would ALSO be a bad move - basically, if you can only be reached via mobile (voice or data), unless it's work-related, doing so would ALSO be of the bad - correct?
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Of course you are right, and the phone gets ignored while I'm at work unless it's something urgent. But I'm not about to change my cell number to an 'unlisted number' that only a select few people know, and force all my friends and acquaintances to use another service to contact me. And people WILL send MMS's, usually apple users who cannot grasp why I wouldn't be able to get their 'group messages'. "You didn't get the message? Why not? You should just get an iphone!" Makes me sick.
But saying "you can mostly replace MMS with another service that uses WiFi" is different than saying "You can send and receive MMS over WiFi". And last I checked, neither mobile data nor MMS works on unlegacy-7.1 on toro.
So for now, I've replaced cm13 with unlegacy-4.4 and everything is working great. Once the SELinux stuff is straightened out with unlegacy-7.1 I will probably revisit that and see if I can get everything working.
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Of course you are right, and the phone gets ignored while I'm at work unless it's something urgent. But I'm not about to change my cell number to an 'unlisted number' that only a select few people know, and force all my friends and acquaintances to use another service to contact me. And people WILL send MMS's, usually apple users who cannot grasp why I wouldn't be able to get their 'group messages'. "You didn't get the message? Why not? You should just get an iphone!" Makes me sick.
But saying "you can mostly replace MMS with another service that uses WiFi" is different than saying "You can send and receive MMS over WiFi". And last I checked, neither mobile data nor MMS works on unlegacy-7.1 on toro.
So for now, I've replaced cm13 with unlegacy-4.4 and everything is working great. Once the SELinux stuff is straightened out with unlegacy-7.1 I will probably revisit that and see if I can get everything working.
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That is why I asked what APP are you using for MMS. If you are using a phone-specific MMS app, it won't work over wi-fi (Messaging is such an example). Hangouts, however, does work over wi-fi (I have Hangouts on my tablet because it WORKS on it; Messaging does not). For messaging (and especially because I have both an Android tablet AND an Android phone - and I've had the tablet the longest) I tend to go with tablet-capable messaging apps - not ones that only work with phones. (Phone-specific apps in general are, in fact, my biggest gripe with Android as a platform.) MMS and SMS are not platform-specific in and of themselves - individual apps, however, can be. (Messaging is phone-specific; however, Hangouts isn't. That is, in fact, why I recommend Hangouts as a Messaging replacement - it's not limited to phones.) Messenger isn't limited to phones, either (not Facebook Messenger, but Google Messenger). This is, unfortunately why both app choice AND platform choice can matter. Therefore I can recommend either Hangouts or Google Messenger (for two reasons - neither is limited to phones OR to mobile data). So don't change your firmware; that's not the problem. - just use a different MMS and/or SMS app.
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That is why I asked what APP are you using for MMS. ..... So don't change your firmware; that's not the problem. - just use a different MMS and/or SMS app.
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Actually, I use Signal as my messaging app. It uses WiFi if the messages are between Signal users. But no matter what app I use, if somebody sends an MMS to my mobile number, there's no way to get it other than to actually have mobile data and MMS working. No app that I've ever heard of can access Verizon's MMS servers and retrieve messages from there over WiFi. Except Verizon Messenger, But that's only available to on-contract customers, not prepaid MVNO users like me. When Hangouts sends messages to non-hangouts users, they are sent using a completely different phone number, and I don't want that either.
Anyway, this discussion started as a simple question of "Does MMS work for you?" which you've answered, "No." We obviously have different communications needs.