Some good news guys.HTC and Apple have finally signed new license agreement that has solved the ongoing patent suit.
Agreement ends current lawsuits; license covers current and future patents for 10 years
Apple and HTC this evening in a joint statement announced they've settled their patent dispute and have agreed to a 10-year license of current and future patents.
Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Here's the joint statement, released by HTC and Apple:
TAIPEI, Taiwan and CUPERTINO, California—November 10, 2012—HTC and Apple have reached a global settlement that includes the dismissal of all current lawsuits and a ten-year license agreement. The license extends to current and future patents held by both parties. The terms of the settlement are confidential.
“HTC is pleased to have resolved its dispute with Apple, so HTC can focus on innovation instead of litigation,” said Peter Chou, CEO of HTC.
“We are glad to have reached a settlement with HTC,” said Tim Cook, CEO of Apple. “We will continue to stay laser focused on product innovation.”
The two companies this year became embroiled in a suit that ultimately led to a temporary ban on the HTC One X for AT&T and its Sprint counterpart, the HTC EVO 4G LTE. That took some of the wind of the sails for those two devices, at least in the smartphone world, even though the EVO 4G LTE only missed its scheduled launch date by a week, and the HTC One X never really disappeared from store shelves.
I still say **** apple.
it seems they payed one way or the other
Yes just don't forget HTC forced apple's hands with their LTE patents
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I still say **** apple.
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This is definetely good news for HTC lovers.
This shows that, even Apple comes out tomorrow anouncing that they have settled things with Sammy too, hTC has realized that Apple is not their main rival but Sammy is.
I don't enjoy the Apple we're seeing in the last 5 years too, but the truth does not change, the US Patent Office does give ridiculous patents.
Htc phone is expensive coz have to pay Microsoft every unit sold ... Now pay apple too
pointbreak said:
Htc phone is expensive coz have to pay Microsoft every unit sold ... Now pay apple too
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HTC is paying apprx $8 for each device. Would you consider any mobile device "expensive" if they put an additional $10 after setting the market price?
I don't think that Apple requested any money from HTC even if they were the stronger part in this deal. What Apple wants is to pull Samsung down from the crown, and HTC is the only company to achieve this, not Apple itself.
They won $1billion from Samsung after the patent case, and just in days Samsung have made them pay an additional $4 billions (estimated) by pricing up the processors.
Also the same reason why Apple got "sweet" with Microsoft.
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HTC is paying apprx $8 for each device. Would you consider any mobile device "expensive" if they put an additional $10 after setting the market price?
I don't think that Apple requested any money from HTC even if they were the stronger part in this deal. What Apple wants is to pull Samsung down from the crown, and HTC is the only company to achieve this, not Apple itself.
They won $1billion from Samsung after the patent case, and just in days Samsung have made them pay an additional $4 billions (estimated) by pricing up the processors.
Also the same reason why Apple got "sweet" with Microsoft.
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Thats smart for Apple, using htc to take out the competition while making sure htc cant sue when/if htc get big.
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Won't give apple anything so after 7 years of HTC will be looking else where for next upgrade
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good news? htc has to pay apple for every device htc sells
how is that good. thats retarded
shiningarmor said:
good news? htc has to pay apple for every device htc sells
how is that good. thats retarded
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Like the old saying says D) if you can't beat them, join them.
I guess htc is future proofing themselves in case they start growing again and apple targets them and to prevent that fiasco when the american hox was blocked for a while
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pay usd10 better than the device get ban cant sell in us market
Interestingly a patent fight has been started between Nokia and HTC... For Upcoming HTC WP8 phone
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the g1 showed up less than a month after launch, iphones the day after, palm pres in a week or so.... but where are the wp7 phones ?
I figured a cracked screen or otherwise damaged device would pop up for $50 and id get it to play with, but wp7 is a no show. are you seeing them in your local ?
I saw one in Hartford, CT $325. I bought my htc surround new for $0.01 (yes, with 2 yr. contract and data plan).
A lot less people bought them, so a lot less people are selling them.
Blackberries aren't that common here, either, for the same reason. Unless business mandates it, not too many people are buying them.
There are tons of iPhones and Androids listed, though.
Mine sold in about a week, I got multiple inquiries kicking myself for selling it too low. I didn't think there was going to be any demand for it.
they're not on craigslist because everyone likes it and wants to keep them!
N8ter said:
A lot less people bought them, so a lot less people are selling them.
Blackberries aren't that common here, either, for the same reason. Unless business mandates it, not too many people are buying them.
There are tons of iPhones and Androids listed, though.
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yeppers, i have iphones, 3, 3gs, 4, like mad... and android devices everywhere for cheap. i figured if i saw any wp7 devices they would be high, but heck there aren't any. blackberrys are still prevelant here too.
the one and only ad for a wp7 device was an african scam, so i guess -they- know about them ;-)
All the wp7 devices I Am seeing are 300+. Mostly resellers. Found one hd7 with cracked screen, guy wanted 150.00 for it. Offered 100, but he managed to get 150.
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a few in chicago not many focuses surprisingly
hd7s yes
no lgs
no dvps either32
In my area from the time of release.I have only one and that is the Samsung focus.
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why are the WP7 so expensive while having less spec? I really want to get a WP7 but the price is the biggest constrain.
There are inexpensive models, too. What ones, specifically are you comparing? Also WP7 doesn't need dual cores to run really well. Other spec issues may still be limitations of the OS.
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WP7 devices are generally more expensive. For proof look at the HTC Sensation XL; identical in every way to the HTC Titan, but has more RAM, includes expensive Beats headphones and sells unlocked for roughly £100 less than the Titan. Why a 25% price reduction for better hardware running Android?
It could be license fees, maybe less Titans were manufactured, maybe just the Android phone market is more competitive and they think they can get away with higher WP7 pricing?
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Also WP7 doesn't need dual cores to run really well.
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Why do people keep repeating this? It's like an echo on WP7 forums; so so annoying!
Obviously a mobile OS doesn't need dual-cores to be smooth (iOS is proof of that) but it is hugely limiting when it comes to 3D games and CPU intensive apps. For example, Titan II just announced and still no 1080p video recording, let alone cool things like onboard video editing. So technically the OS doesn't need it, but it does if it doesn't want to get left in the dust by the big two competitors.
WTF do you expect people to say! You give no specs to compare or complain about. Of course, you're going to hear the same thing over and over again.
Be specific the first time around.
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WTF do you expect people to say! You give no specs to compare or complain about. Of course, you're going to hear the same thing over and over again.
Be specific the first time around.
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The original post is about WP7 pricing. What has "WP7 doesn't need dual cores to run really well" got to do with the posters question?
It was an odd response, hence I had to take issue and question it.
I just don't understand, why WP7 from the same manufacturer is more expensive than their Android counterpart. Are manufacturers forced to pay Microsoft license fee for Windows Mobile?
At 1% of the smartphone market, MS should really try to make their phones cheaper.
Windows mobile phones were also very expensive even after android came out.
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because there's no market of WP7. and the few phones sold, are very expensive, because the variable cost of production.
It sounds absurd, but WP7=old hardware=bigger price, Android=new hardware=more rotation=male price.
if you want to buy today a cathodic tube TV, it will be more expensive tan a 3D led TV.
the same reason.
hey but remember: WP7 doesn't need dual core, it runs smooth with one core!
that's the only important thing about mobile phones nowerdays. that's why WP7 is the best phone of the world! I'm just kidding obviously...
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WP7 devices are generally more expensive. For proof look at the HTC Sensation XL; identical in every way to the HTC Titan, but has more RAM, includes expensive Beats headphones and sells unlocked for roughly £100 less than the Titan. Why a 25% price reduction for better hardware running Android?
It could be license fees, maybe less Titans were manufactured, maybe just the Android phone market is more competitive and they think they can get away with higher WP7 pricing?
Why do people keep repeating this? It's like an echo on WP7 forums; so so annoying!
Obviously a mobile OS doesn't need dual-cores to be smooth (iOS is proof of that) but it is hugely limiting when it comes to 3D games and CPU intensive apps. For example, Titan II just announced and still no 1080p video recording, let alone cool things like onboard video editing. So technically the OS doesn't need it, but it does if it doesn't want to get left in the dust by the big two competitors.
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This right here. Best post ever, especially in these forums.
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It must be a "right place, right time" thing, because I got my Focus for free, my wife got hers for free, I got my Titan for free, and four other extended family members got their "Focii" for either free or, at most, $50.
The focus is an old phone right now. Not sure where you got a Titan for free from. Maybe from a holiday promotion? Tmobile gave away hd7 a month after releas on promotion so that doesn't really say much tbh.
Under normal circumstances the phones are more expensive than better hardware running iOS or android. Even bb7 phones launches with better hw than wp7 had when it launched and cost less in many cases.
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The focus is an old phone right now. Not sure where you got a Titan for free from. Maybe from a holiday promotion? Tmobile gave away hd7 a month after releas on promotion so that doesn't really say much tbh.
Under normal circumstances the phones are more expensive than better hardware running iOS or android. Even bb7 phones launches with better hw than wp7 had when it launched and cost less in many cases.
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Sorry, 4 of us got our Focus phones for free between January and April of 2011, to be more specific, and I think 2 got them for $50. Yes, I know it's an old phone, but it was new (~2-6 months old) when all 6 were purchased.
I specifically waited until "Black Saturday" to buy my Titan for $0.01, because I knew the discount was coming. Keeping up with the WP7 blogs, it just seems like WP7s are usually on some kind of special or another...so unless you're talking about off-contract prices, I really don't see WP7 as being any more expensive than Android.
That said, obviously Android's larger market, greater competition, and zero licensing cost would result in lower prices.
Cheapest I see on Google shopping for the Titan is $519, $569, $575...
Cheapest I see on Google shopping for the HTC Sensation XL is $525, $582, $587, $599...
Maybe things are different in the UK, but that is not the case in US. The problem is the price of the Titan is all over the place so maybe depend on where you buy it is a $20 difference or a $100 difference.
Amazon.com has the Sensation for $581.49 but the Titan for $675
Ebay - HTC Titan (locked) from $450. (unlocked) from $550.00
Ebay - HTC Sensation XL (unlocked) from $530
I will let you know this, wholesale the Sensation XL is consistently below $500 while the Titan is all over the place. Be reasonable guys, that is the supply chain to blame.
Joe Belfiore discussed the pricing issue yesterday in an interview with the Verge.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/11/2699923/joe-belfiore-windows-phone-interview
If you don't want to watch the entire video, the relevant part is at 7mins 43secs.
It's a good interview, so worth watching the whole video. Don't expect any new information though
who cares what they cost compared to android. if you want one buy one if not then stick with your android
FinancialWar said:
why are the WP7 so expensive while having less spec? I really want to get a WP7 but the price is the biggest constrain.
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They really are not. I mean head over to your friendly neighbourhood ebay and check it out. If your talking about expensive you will really have to explain. Seeing as the prices range between all WP7 devices.
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Under normal circumstances the phones are more expensive than better hardware running iOS or android. Even bb7 phones launches with better hw than wp7 had when it launched and cost less in many cases.
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Proof?
The Titan and Sensation XL are just about identical and when comparing apples to apples can be obtained on ebay for just about the same price. And infact, I can buy a locked Titan and pay for an unlock code and come out cheaper.
Why spread misinformation? A simple price check shows that is absolute nonsense.
Because Windows Phone 7 is like a honey badger. It does whatever the hell it wants and it's still an awesome mobile OS.
I love that WP7 is not playing the whole hardware game and is just focusing purely on the user experience and this really shows. It sucks that I have to revert my HD2 back to Android mainly because of unsolvable random resets running WP7.
Sensation vs Titan current ebay prices
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HTC Titan Buy It Now for $449.88, 509.99, and $545
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...1313&_nkw=HTC+Titan&_sacat=See-All-Categories
HTC Sensation XL Buy It Now $529.99, $552.99, $554.99 ...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...C+Titan&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
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Titan is 1.4 GHz where the Sensation is 1.5 GHz - pretty close.
Both are 8 mega pixel cameras
Titan does 720P / Sensation does 720P (the listings did not show 1080P)
Both have 16GB.
I am now thinking the title of the thread needs to be changed.
Someone else can do the searching and posting for other device comparison information.
As is, it does not look to be more expensive for the same hardware.
I'm starting to see a shift in the pricing, for example on the TMOUS site one will find that the SGS2 and the HTC Amaze cost more on contract than the radar and Lumia 710.
I got a new red s3 a few days ago and other than not being able to check for ot updates, I really like it. However, I have one big concern that has me wondering if maybe I should swap it out for a One X ($79.88 at wal mart). If Apple ends up winning the court case against Samsung, what will happen as far as future updates/upgrades/support? If Apple wins, apparently th s3 will be banned from future sales. And since they have already taken the local search function away, what other features are we likely to lose just to appease Apple?
Samsung and Apple will battle in court for the foreseeable future. The sgiii isn't going to get barred from being sold, at least not for any significant amount of time.
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Apple already put a stop to sales of one of Samsung's tablets. The s3 is next on their list. But I already have one so that part doesn't concern me. What does concern me is support for the s3 if Samsung is banned from selling it. It is hard to imagine them supporting a product that they can't sell. Plus, if the software is also banned (local search), will they even be able to support it if they want to?
Umm they really don't have anything to go after the SGS3 for. It is not rectangular, it does not have uniform corners, and TouchWiz does not look like iOS, so what could the possible ban it for?
I know
I feel the same way. But you know how it is. I couldn't believe that Samsung took away the local search but they did. Apparently, pretty much everything from the icons to the touch screen is copied from Apple. But the s3 with its physical home button is the first Android powered phone to outsell the iPhone. Therefore it must go. Like I said, Apple got the Nexus tablet banned because it was too much like the iPad. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone that is constantly being stripped down bit by bit or completely removed from the market and nit supported at all. It's funny, though. The Apple TV sure looks like a Samsung to me. I wonder if Samsung will sue Apple?
Becouse they are afraid of the sgs3...
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Becouse they are afraid of the sgs3...
sent from my galaxy far far away...
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With good reason.
Sweet we will be only ones with s3. lol. It won't happen.
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I got a new red s3 a few days ago and other than not being able to check for ot updates, I really like it. However, I have one big concern that has me wondering if maybe I should swap it out for a One X ($79.88 at wal mart). If Apple ends up winning the court case against Samsung, what will happen as far as future updates/upgrades/support? If Apple wins, apparently th s3 will be banned from future sales. And since they have already taken the local search function away, what other features are we likely to lose just to appease Apple?
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You are on xda, you shouldnt worry about that. Devs here will do everything to add features back. atleast the common sense ones.
Even if something as far-fetched as banning the S3 does occur, I doubt that they would simply just stop supporting a device that sold over 10 million units.
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I mean really, Apple does not have nothing to stop the SGS3. The phone was designed to avoid being stopped by Apple. and even then, if they try to stop it via software, they cant, because all it takes is a software patch. hence the Galaxy Nexus.
When it comes down to it, Apple is scared. Android is light years better and they know it. They know that Google made an OS to rival theirs and did it better. So, if you can't beat the competition, then sue (sp.) their butt off! Apple will ALWAYS be a fanboy market...meaning all the die-hard robots that will do/buy whatever Apple tells them too. Meanwhile, Google will keep innovating and making their mobile OS truely the best on the market today.
ahh the beauty of living in canada us patents dont apply here! yippee! never have to worry about any of these stupid lawsuits. :good:
though even if they win, they cant really touch the sgs iii, apple is mainly targeting older samsung phones which imo did blatantly copy apple (talking about like the galaxy s originaly) , they have changed a lot since those days. id be surprised if they had any dirt on the siii.
They are scared of Samsung itself. They know that Samsung copied the iPhone, and lets be honest here, they copied the dam iPhone, but they produced a product a million times better than the iPhone.
Samsung has some great technology, which is why its one of Apple's "Key Partners". I have owned three Samsung devices in the last year and they all were really good. Samsung has what it takes, but it is being limited by Apple. Why do you think the SGS3 is so ugly looking? To avoid Apple and its lawsuits.
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They are scared of Samsung itself. They know that Samsung copied the iPhone, and lets be honest here, they copied the dam iPhone, but they produced a product a million times better than the iPhone.
Samsung has some great technology, which is why its one of Apple's "Key Partners". I have owned three Samsung devices in the last year and they all were really good. Samsung has what it takes, but it is being limited by Apple. Why do you think the SGS3 is so ugly looking? To avoid Apple and its lawsuits.
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Looks better than the HTC X and the iPhone itself.
Apple deserves to win this case. Look at the points and cases they are bringing up against the Galaxy S 1. The UI was completely ripped off of them. In addition, Samsung's lawyers are a bunch of jackasses in court (read the Verge if you dont know what Im talking about). Now... some of the new patents Apple is getting are utter bull****. I was pissed when they tried to ban the GNex because of the search patent .
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Looks better than the HTC X and the iPhone itself.
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I lol'd. The Galaxy S3 pales in design when comparing it to those two
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Guys you cant ban something that already has tens of millions in the wild. Apple is definitely worried, because Steve only left them so much on his notes he kept and the iphone train is going to run out of steam after the next 2 iphones you mark my words, that is all he left them.
Buy another phone if you want, nothing in life is certain, but I would not worry one minute and use the phone you want now. Its already the best thing out there as is, once JB rolls out its a done deal. They have a removable battery and SD slot, doesnt sound like an iphone clone to me...And who cares if they ban the S1, its a totally different phone and old as hell to boot, it aint gonna happen. They must stop it before its released or it just doesnt work.
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Apple already put a stop to sales of one of Samsung's tablets. The s3 is next on their list. But I already have one so that part doesn't concern me. What does concern me is support for the s3 if Samsung is banned from selling it. It is hard to imagine them supporting a product that they can't sell. Plus, if the software is also banned (local search), will they even be able to support it if they want to?
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Why do you need support from Samsung? Just root and install custom roms, my old HTC Hero on Telus took over a year to get an update from 1.6 to eclair, but by then I was already running a custom rom.
I didn't mean to start an apple vs Samsung vs one x discussion. Honestly, I am amazed at how far mobile phones have come since I got my first Motorola Star Tac when I was in the military. I am just concerned about the future of my s3 in the event that apple wins in court. That said, I can see where apple is coming from. However, without competition from other manufacturers, there will be very few more advancements in the industry. Especially if every time someone produces a product that may or may not be better than apple, apple sues that company into submission. Imagine how it would be if car companies did the same thing. Or even something as simple as clothes detergent. My concern is not whether or not Samsung "will" support the s3 but whether not they will be able to due to restrictions placed on them by the courts that may prevent them from having the ability to support and improve on the s3
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I lol'd. The Galaxy S3 pales in design when comparing it to those two
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i lol'd at your lol. ur crazy dude
I was just wondering if anyone knows the exact details of how this lawsuit could de-rail the galaxy s3. Is it a possibility that they recall it? Will the jellybean update due in the fall be delayed due to copyright violations? I know its very unlikely that this lawsuit wil get anymore, but what is the worse that could come from this?
Oh yea, by apple doing this makes me about 300% less likely to buy one of their products. You know this company is on the ropes when they are pushing for a judgement for samsung to pull all of its devices off the market.
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I was just wondering if anyone knows the exact details of how this lawsuit could de-rail the galaxy s3. Is it a possibility that they recall it? Will the jellybean update due in the fall be delayed due to copyright violations? I know its very unlikely that this lawsuit wil get anymore, but what is the worse that could come from this?
Oh yea, by apple doing this makes me about 300% less likely to buy one of their products. You know this company is on the ropes when they are pushing for a judgement for samsung to pull all of its devices off the market.
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I'm not sure about the lawsuit but agree that I would be a LOT less likely to buy any more of their products!
chances are it won't do damn thing to the s3.... possibly future device's.
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It won't do anything for the lifespan of the GS3. Regardless of who wins this week, appeals are surely to be the result that will keep this battle going for a year, at the least. Probably 18 to 24 months. Small inconveniences may occur along the way, kind of like how universal search got dumbed down, but in the end, I think lawmakers are going to have to step in and fix the problem on the books.
Samsung is starting to make chips in the US, so it makes me wonder if Samsung is trying to get some congressional support by claiming that if their phones get locked out of US markets, it'll hurt the US job market. Where Apple products are all manufactured by a foreign work force.
I what would be shocked is if nine people (jury) agree on anything covered in this trial.
Hung jury on most claims for both sides would be my guess but if the jury upholds the 3g claim for Samsung I think Apples gonna wish they wouldnt have started this BS.
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I'll never touch another Apple product for as long as I live. No one should support a company who feels self-entitled to everything and stifles innovation with needless lawsuits. Anybody read that bit in a Steve Job's Bio saying he would go to the end of the world and even thermonuclear war to protect his products and investments? Rediculous lol ..as Bobby Boucher would say, "Apple is the devil!" (waterboy)
Apple is the new Microsoft lol
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I was just wondering if anyone knows the exact details of how this lawsuit could de-rail the galaxy s3. Is it a possibility that they recall it? Will the jellybean update due in the fall be delayed due to copyright violations? I know its very unlikely that this lawsuit wil get anymore, but what is the worse that could come from this?
Oh yea, by apple doing this makes me about 300% less likely to buy one of their products. You know this company is on the ropes when they are pushing for a judgement for samsung to pull all of its devices off the market.
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Nothing will happen to the S3 because that actually wasn't part of this case, the case was for older devices and the galaxy tab, no need to worry for now
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I was just wondering if anyone knows the exact details of how this lawsuit could de-rail the galaxy s3. Is it a possibility that they recall it? Will the jellybean update due in the fall be delayed due to copyright violations? I know its very unlikely that this lawsuit wil get anymore, but what is the worse that could come from this?
Oh yea, by apple doing this makes me about 300% less likely to buy one of their products. You know this company is on the ropes when they are pushing for a judgement for samsung to pull all of its devices off the market.
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Why, because we already have the roms. They will roll out updates I am sure (if they have too) for the UI, but if your rooted and/or not on stock rom -you will have nothing to worry about. GET THE SIII now if you havnt, you might not beable to (highly doubt it).
If I remember correctly apple is suing over the sg3 in december...
The lawsuit ended in Samsung owing Apple 1Billion. But samsung is fighting back claiming not to steal any ideas. Can we ***** slap apple for being a child?
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I what would be shocked is if nine people (jury) agree on anything covered in this trial.
Hung jury on most claims for both sides would be my guess but if the jury upholds the 3g claim for Samsung I think Apples gonna wish they wouldnt have started this BS.
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Lets be honest, if you own any kind of android, be it samsung or not, you're likely going to be rooting for Samsung's case. And same goes for all those iPhone fan boys and girls out there. So the real problem is.... Will they honestly be able to find 9 people that don't currently own an iPhone or Android phone, and never have in their entire lives? Because that's how the jury should be comprised -- of people having absolutely no opinion about the matter. I'd venture to say that'd be enough to get for a mistrial if the jury weren't made this way.
Long story short nothing will happen. Samsung will just lose some money.. remember Samsung makes more products than apple.
1 billion dollars is a ton of money... even for Samsung. I dont see how they can survive this alone. I suspect many companies will soon team up to keep apple honest with themselves. The days of their reign are ending. Get innovative instead of suing.... its a little more respectable.
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I'm not sure if I'm allowed to put in links here (haven't posted in a while), but top HTC employees like Ford Davidson, Scott Croyle, and others (as well as a few last year, like HTC Asia CEO Lennard Hoonik and Chief Product Officer Kouji Kodera) have been leaving HTC recently. Every time I see one of these stories, I get a little more worried. Typically, when a lot of top executives and employees are leaving a company at the same time, it's a cause for concern. Though they might say they're leaving for personal reasons, it's often because they see a bad future for the company.
Is this a legitimate reason to be concerned at this point? I really like the HTC One M8 and I was about to order one today when I saw the article about Davidson (the third about a departing HTC employee in recent days) and I got cold feet. My main concern is that if the company is really going downhill, they might not be able to continue to support the phone for the next two years (or, at least, that support might be inadequate and slow). Is this a serious issue, or am I overreacting and extrapolating too much from a couple of guys possibly wanting a break after releasing a major flagship product?
karmapuhlease said:
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to put in links here (haven't posted in a while), but top HTC employees like Ford Davidson, Scott Croyle, and others (as well as a few last year, like HTC Asia CEO Lennard Hoonik and Chief Product Officer Kouji Kodera) have been leaving HTC recently. Every time I see one of these stories, I get a little more worried. Typically, when a lot of top executives and employees are leaving a company at the same time, it's a cause for concern. Though they might say they're leaving for personal reasons, it's often because they see a bad future for the company.
Is this a legitimate reason to be concerned at this point? I really like the HTC One M8 and I was about to order one today when I saw the article about Davidson (the third about a departing HTC employee in recent days) and I got cold feet. My main concern is that if the company is really going downhill, they might not be able to continue to support the phone for the next two years (or, at least, that support might be inadequate and slow). Is this a serious issue, or am I overreacting and extrapolating too much from a couple of guys possibly wanting a break after releasing a major flagship product?
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Considering HTC is putting out amazing products I wouldn't worry about the drama and speculation behind people's leaving.
It's definitely concerning, but the M8 has been heralded as one of the best phones ever. I definitely agree, and they hold a high customer reputation (at least for me) because of their transparency with the software. Whenever I'm in the phone market, I'll always be looking at HTC first. In two years, we'll see how that's changed.
I think their innovation in the past speaks for itself; they pull in smart people. They may not have people beating down their door for an internship like Google, but they are a strongly branded hardware company. They'll have to really screw up to ruin that image.
I am also Considering HTC is putting out amazing products I wouldn't worry about the drama and speculation behind people's leaving.
Who says they weren't pushed?
grentuu said:
Who says they weren't pushed?
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This is what I'm thinking. Sounds like HTC might be doing some spring cleaning. Either way this device is such a beast that it'll be supported one way or another for 2 years
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GetRipped said:
This is what I'm thinking. Sounds like HTC might be doing some spring cleaning. Either way this device is such a beast that it'll be supported one way or another for 2 years
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Well ...after that scandal a few months back ....im not surprised ppl are leaving and being let go and fired ..selling secrets to other company's isn't good lol.
GetRipped said:
This is what I'm thinking. Sounds like HTC might be doing some spring cleaning. Either way this device is such a beast that it'll be supported one way or another for 2 years
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There are so many reasons for leaving empoyees. Maybe they have got a really good offer from competitors who whish to raise their level to HTCs quality.
I am shure that the actual One M8 is a product which was developed many months ago, so their leaving does not influence my product at all. Finges crossed.