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I just got my TP2 a few days ago and really like it so far... had a bit of time getting ActiveSync to do what it's supposed to with Google Contacts and Gmail, but finally did it. I am using GooSync for the calender sync as I sync several calenders and this keep the formatting better.
My problem as it stands now is that calender only offers me two views; Month and Day. Something has switched and I no longer can access the Year, Week or Agenda views.
Can anyone offer any help on the matter.
Thanks very much and I hope to one day offer more t the group.
The reason you can't see the standard calendar stuff is because the default calendar that you see isn't the standard Windows Mobile Calendar (as you remember it), it's the HTC TF3D overlay version of calendar.
The stock WinMo caledar is still there...not sure right now the easy way to enable it, but you can access it from "All Programs".
That doesn't solve your problem, but it explains it.
Thanks very much... it does indeed explain the "problem."
Interesting that it differs by such slight differences that makes the program seem buggy rather than different.
There's some progress on the synced Task list front.
Appa Mundi Tasks does at least sync with Exchange Server tasks lists, which is a start. Unfortunately it doesn't support recurring tasks, so you can't use it for your annual MOT or your quarterly VAT return.
Also, strangely, tasks with a start date in the future appear in the list of "Active" tasks, which is just plain wrong.
Anyway, I remain hopeful a tasks app will become available soon which does support recurrances, filters active tasks properly, and syncs with Hotmail tasks so we don't have to purchase an Exchange service online.
Keep your eyes peeled and post on here if you spot anything.
I was looking at Remember the Milk as well but it doesn't support start dates or recurrences either.
Ever try Toodledo?
I used Toodledo when I when from WinMo to iPhone and really needed tasks. It's a terrible web UI, but has a full featured iPhone app that would sync with Outlook tasks. I'm working a WP7 app right now. Not sure what other sync capacity it has, but it's MUCH better than Remember the Milk.
http://photon.funkymule.com/post/photondo-sneak-peek-1.aspx
Keep an eye on that for PhotonDo, it's a task app that syncs with ToodleDo. Then again, why didn't MS allow Live Hotmail to support tasks and we wouldn't have to wait for a tasks app.
Hotmail tasks are pretty bad. Better than Goigle, but nithing comparable to Outlook/Exchange tasks...
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Just had a look at toodledo.com and it seems to do what I need. Until Photondo comes out, I can probably handle using the mobile version of the site, toodledo.com/slim
I'm going to import my Outlook tasks to toodledo tonight, and start using it for a bit to see how it goes.
Thanks for the tip.
FYI... I just purchased "To-Do Tasks" in the marketplace. Nice app that seems to be well supported. Synchs with Toodledo perfectly.
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FYI... I just purchased "To-Do Tasks" in the marketplace. Nice app that seems to be well supported. Synchs with Toodledo perfectly.
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I imported my outlook tasks to toodledo last night, all looks good. Am downloading To-do Tasks and will give it a spin.
Edit: The trial doesn't support sync so I can't really see how it works. Can you tell me, does it support recurrances and start dates? Doesn't look like it does. Do tasks with a future start date show up on-screen? I need future tasks to be hidden. The upcoming PhotonDo should do all that I think.
As above. Can't because there is no demand, can it? One of the big let-downs for me coming from PalmOS and Agendus is the really week Calendar app. Let's not get into the bizarre two week limit on past events! I also miss the tweakability of ChatterEmail. But that was then ...
So why no PIM or email apps? Is it a programming issue? Is the WP market entertainment, not enterprise? Will it change with Apollo/WP8?
Just wondering.
PS: other than that I love WP7. Just hoping for more.
truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it. I also have yet to see anyone but you so far ask for it, so i am not thinking the demand is there yet. I have see in the marketplace a few task and calendar apps though.
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truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it. I also have yet to see anyone but you so far ask for it, so i am not thinking the demand is there yet. I have see in the marketplace a few task and calendar apps though.
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PIM was very useful on WM, I don't understand why there is no demand for it? I guess it is what it is, Don't want to even ask because I don't what to hear some [email protected]$$ fanboy comment about that feature is so 1999 or something.
The real reason is that everything is sandboxed.
You don't have direct access. You used to just import poutlook.dll Then you could send an email. It would go into the phone's outbox for the account you wanted to send with. It would get sent on the next sync.
Now, you will be asked if you want to send the mail.
Also, I don't think there is any way to programatically get at the content of your emails. This is actually a good security piece. Imagine a dev writing a pretty cool app. You use it. Only months later you find that the content of all email messages on your phone were being sent to the dev while you used the app through a http post.
This is the why. Now, Microsoft could provide controls that would access this information.
Back in Windows Mobile, I wrote an app for users of Sense that also used the Facebook tab that would go through all of your contacts that were linked to Facebook. It would let the user update the contact with the Facebook pic. It used poutlook.dll.
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truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it.
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Built-in so good? I don't think so. Good as far as it goes maybe. I too use Exchange, that's the backend. It's the presentation of the PIM data that is so lacking.
Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
Have a look at the features in the iOS and Android versions of PocketInformant or Agendus.
While I'm at it, the email app needs customisable notifications per mailbox.
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The real reason is that everything is sandboxed.
You don't have direct access.
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The more I look, the more I'm getting that message. Just have to see what the future holds.
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Built-in so good? I don't think so. Good as far as it goes maybe. I too use Exchange, that's the backend. It's the presentation of the PIM data that is so lacking.
Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
Have a look at the features in the iOS and Android versions of PocketInformant or Agendus.
While I'm at it, the email app needs customisable notifications per mailbox.
The more I look, the more I'm getting that message. Just have to see what the future holds.
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PIM is only needed for sms and history. Exchange or hotmail backs up the rest when you put contacts in unless you don't have a data plan. And if you want it all backed up... here yah go (only for stock roms)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346276
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Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
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Let me break this down for you...
Duplicate events... go to the event, scroll down, hit more details. press occurs, Choose once, everyday, every weekday, every saturday, every (Day number) of the month, ever month day (as in yearly)
For Tasks in the tile - while on agenda,
Week view? for someone that has a lot of appointments, weekview is never readable, same with month. At least in month you can tell there is an appointment and click on it.
For tasks tile that syncs with exchange try this one - http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/3455bef8-895d-49d6-9c71-131a8fd0106a
They do however show in agenda once you have opened the task
ROCOAFZ. Maybe you don't understand what I was trying to explain (BOTD). Also, please don't be so defensive, I'm not trying to diss WP. I'll be in for the long run. But if I see (IMO) a weakness I will point it out. And to me the functionality in the Calendar app is poor. Especially when other parts of the OS are so good.
Responding to your points ...
Firstly, forget about Exchange, etc. I'm not talking about backing up. I'm talking about the presentation and management of the data. I don't care where it's stored. Could be local, could be cloud - doesn't matter.
Secondly, when I use the term PIM, I mean it in the broadest possible way. I want to manage my personal info. Traditionally, on PDAs, that meant calendar, contacts and tasks. Smartphones have replaced PDAs, so now I want my current smartphone to do this at least as well.
Thirdly, the intent of the original post was to query why there are no 3rd-party PIM-type apps available for WP7. There are for iOS and Android, even BB. There were for WM6 and PalmOS. Why not WP7? A couple of replies confirmed what I suspected. The OS doesn't provide the access programmers need. Everything is very hands-off. Maybe this will change in future releases. there are indications that this may be so.
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Duplicate events... go to the event, scroll down, hit more details. press occurs, Choose once, everyday, every weekday, every saturday, every (Day number) of the month, ever month day (as in yearly)
For Tasks in the tile - while on agenda,
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No, I'm talking about duplicating existing appointments. Not recurring events, i.e., I had a meeting today at 2pm. We agree to meet again on Friday at 4pm. All other details the same. Previously I would quickly duplicate the event, update the date/time and I'm done. Now I must create from scratch. I right-click drag in Outlook, Google Calendar has Duplicate in More Actions - so it's not just me.
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Week view? for someone that has a lot of appointments, weekview is never readable, same with month. At least in month you can tell there is an appointment and click on it.
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My choice to decide, but at least give me the choice. In month view I want to see better indicators. Maybe the smallish Lumia 800 display is at fault, or my chosen theme, but I really have difficulty noticing the existing (pretend) indications and they give no indication of what's there (task, appointment, all-day event). There is plenty of room to show boxes and bars for an 'at a glance' overview of my time. Especially in landscape view. BTW, what happened Categories?
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For tasks tile that syncs with exchange try this one - TaskTask
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Thanks. That, and some others, look interesting. But comes back to the issue raised by others. The only way to get at the tasks data is to go direct to the server. Shouldn't have to do that. It does work though, but should be in sync with inbuilt, not duplicating functionality.
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Responding to your points ...
Firstly, forget about Exchange, etc. I'm not talking about backing up. I'm talking about the presentation and management of the data. I don't care where it's stored. Could be local, could be cloud - doesn't matter.
Secondly, when I use the term PIM, I mean it in the broadest possible way. I want to manage my personal info. Traditionally, on PDAs, that meant calendar, contacts and tasks. Smartphones have replaced PDAs, so now I want my current smartphone to do this at least as well.
Thirdly, the intent of the original post was to query why there are no 3rd-party PIM-type apps available for WP7. There are for iOS and Android, even BB. There were for WM6 and PalmOS. Why not WP7? A couple of replies confirmed what I suspected. The OS doesn't provide the access programmers need. Everything is very hands-off. Maybe this will change in future releases. there are indications that this may be so.
Finally, some specific comments -
No, I'm talking about duplicating existing appointments. Not recurring events, i.e., I had a meeting today at 2pm. We agree to meet again on Friday at 4pm. All other details the same. Previously I would quickly duplicate the event, update the date/time and I'm done. Now I must create from scratch. I right-click drag in Outlook, Google Calendar has Duplicate in More Actions - so it's not just me.
My choice to decide, but at least give me the choice. In month view I want to see better indicators. Maybe the smallish Lumia 800 display is at fault, or my chosen theme, but I really have difficulty noticing the existing (pretend) indications and they give no indication of what's there (task, appointment, all-day event). There is plenty of room to show boxes and bars for an 'at a glance' overview of my time. Especially in landscape view. BTW, what happened Categories?
Thanks. That, and some others, look interesting. But comes back to the issue raised by others. The only way to get at the tasks data is to go direct to the server. Shouldn't have to do that. It does work though, but should be in sync with inbuilt, not duplicating functionality.
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1st, not being defensive, just pointing out the way others like myself do it. What i say may or may not work for your situation but it's good to see another way to do it.
For contacts, calendar and tasks - without exchange - they are synced to the cloud hotmail. You don't need to back them up in that case. Last time i hard reset my phone, i didn't even restore via Zune. I put in my hotmail account. That brought in my local contacts and birthdays + vet appointments for my dog. i then synced facebook. That brought in all my friends. then exchange which brought my work contacts, email calendar, tasks ect. You have to get a windows live when you 1st bring up the phone. It is an automatic backup. Now what i did lose was my app list and saved games + contact history.
For apps go to https://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/my under get my apps and you will find a list of everything you purchased or got for free. you can send each app to your phone from there. So only thing is lost is contact history and saved games. Zune sync brings back pictures and music. I wanted to change what i had on my phone and didn't care to keep the exisint pics since they were on my pc anyway so i opted not to do this.
But if you want full local backup i highlighted a homebrew way to do it that doesn't require you to be unlocked.
Tasks - for your example, if you created the event, i normally would just edit it and change the date. Granted it's not copy but does the same functionality, unless you need a record of the event that passed.
I have a Titan so my display it pretty big. I probably could show a week view but on some weeks there are so many appointments that it would have to be bars. They should allow month view to zoom into calendar even if pinch to zoom to satisfy everyone.
Categories i didn't miss because i didn't use them but someone else asked me about them before purchasing a phone. That is when i noticed they were not there. Instead of categoris, i add to the subject.
example = Meeting with consumer - Billable
Instead of a billiable category which i can't do much with i add the text because outlook will allow me to search for it. at the end of the week when i bill out, i just enter in outlook's search (i do billing from pc) billable and it will show all my Billiable appointments in a list with time and date. it works way better that way for me. I haven't quite figured out what people use categories for yet though but i do know that they are not on the phone. Probably because each calendar has it's own color.
Thanks again. But, really, I have no issues with backing up, syncing, etc
Yes, I do keep old events. Which is why I can't believe you can only go back two weeks. Thank goodness for web access.
Second half of post is interesting. I may just have to change my habits. Certainly the idea of using different calendars for colour coding sounds good.
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Yes, I do keep old events. Which is why I can't believe you can only go back two weeks. Thank goodness for web access.
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Hmm i never notice that. In the hotmail calendar it goes back further. I always thought it followed the email since i have it for a month but i never look back that far.
I didn't know if you knew this but if you change IE to Desktop version in settings you can do full outlook web access with all calendars including shared. (i know this works on 2010 exchange at least). One thing the iphone can't do as you are locked to mobile version and Outlook has no link to change out of it.
What features I need:
Must have a reminder, set date and time
Should be FAST, clean and easy to use.
I tried Todo with alerts. Not very fast, 1 of my task got disappeared, don't know what happened. Overall, its average.
I would prefer an ads-free free version, if available.
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What features I need:
Must have a reminder, set date and time
Should be FAST, clean and easy to use.
I tried Todo with alerts. Not very fast, 1 of my task got disappeared, don't know what happened. Overall, its average.
I would prefer an ads-free free version, if available.
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If you don't need it to support Exchange, I'd recommend giving "So what's today" a shot. It's clean, easy to use and gets the job perfectly done.
What Im missing here? You have integrated tasks in your calendar where you can set reminder?
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What Im missing here? You have integrated tasks in your calendar where you can set reminder?
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Thats what I use. Love it.
I also use the calendar to do list. Works great! Integrated reminders, etc.
stock calendar app?
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stock calendar app?
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Yes the calendar built in to the OS. When you open it, swipe over to the "to do" list. Its an excellent place to create quick, clean, reminders.
Yes the integrated to-do list is good. Clean & fast. The only thing I would ask MS is that they would add active task count to the calendar tile... Please MS please
I also use Agenda live tile, which shows your next four appointments from the calendar on a live tile
Inbuilt calendar app is best.
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What Im missing here? You have integrated tasks in your calendar where you can set reminder?
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Unfortunately the Tasks from Windows Live do not support recurring tasks. If that is OK with you then you don't have to look any further.
Same goes with Google Tasks.
I ended up using To-Do Tasks. It is a paid app and it can work with Toodledo. It can also use tasks with a local (phone) database but when I tried that the repeat feature was not available.
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Unfortunately the Tasks from Windows Live do not support recurring tasks. If that is OK with you then you don't have to look any further.
Same goes with Google Tasks.
I ended up using To-Do Tasks. It is a paid app and it can work with Toodledo. It can also use tasks with a local (phone) database but when I tried that the repeat feature was not available.
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FOr the recurring element, isnt that where the actual calendar comes into play? Outlook of the PC doesnt have a recurring tasks feature....
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FOr the recurring element, isnt that where the actual calendar comes into play? Outlook of the PC doesnt have a recurring tasks feature....
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First... Outlook on the PC does support recurring tasks, with a very strong subset of recurrence options. I use Outlook 2007 and the Recurrence button is right in the middle of the ribbon when you open a task.
I know some people who use the calendar for tasks. While you can get by doing it I do not believe the calendar is the proper place. The calendar is suited for appointments. The only time time the calendar meets tasks is when it overlays the tasks on the calendar view(s) you have.
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First... Outlook on the PC does support recurring tasks, with a very strong subset of recurrence options. I use Outlook 2007 and the Recurrence button is right in the middle of the ribbon when you open a task.
I know some people who use the calendar for tasks. While you can get by doing it I do not believe the calendar is the proper place. The calendar is suited for appointments. The only time time the calendar meets tasks is when it overlays the tasks on the calendar view(s) you have.
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"Removing" nonsense post.
Yes but recurring tasks wasnt what the OP listed that he needs.
Especially clean and fast is just what the built in task manager is.
I also tried few apps from the marketplace. To-do Tasks was the last one, but even though I paid to get it I deleted it. I hated the fact that you always have to manually sync it.
Other few task apps I tried from the marketplace were too slow.
I like the built in tasks app really much. It is missing few features and the biggest one for me is actually that the calendar tile does not show active task count.
I tried to test and set a recurring task from my outlook (I have exchange O365, so I dont sync to live), but I didnt see that option in Outlook 2010?
EDIT: OK Im blind, I just found it. Well see what happens when I set it.
In this amazing world of Android, is there not an app that can decipher an email and add the appt to calendar? For example, I get a lot of emails advising me of the practice schedule for the coming week or two, the email has days and times and locations. Is it too much to ask to have those times automatically added to my calendar? I mean Google now goes far enoughthat it will track parcels or flights, is this not the next logical step? Is tedious to manually add them from each email. I would expect some kind of visual confirmation where you could edit any minor details of course. Any dev who could come up with this would clean up! Unless there's something like this on the market that I've overlooked?
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Just a quick update, after checking, it appears that the problem is only with Gmail? If I forward these Gmail messages to Hotmail or others, the time in the body of the email is highlighted, allowing me to tap it to create a date on Samsung calendar. I have to fill in the details but that's what I'm talking about!
I guess I could create calendar date verbally with Google now. Anyone have a better way? Gmail is my main email.
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Argh! I guess you mods can delete this thread. Apparently, if I open Gmail using the stock email app I can achieve what I wanted. Thanks me!
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tkjeeper said:
Argh! I guess you mods can delete this thread. Apparently, if I open Gmail using the stock email app I can achieve what I wanted. Thanks me!
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found your thread by searching the same content. I found this helpful because i have the same problem like yours, i.e. too many emails with appointment and schedule which i hardly manually enter into my calendar. switching apps also takes too many steps to complete. Ive never use Stock Email that came with the device (i am on Samsung galaxy note 3 now). Let me try see if it works. However, I found stock email app is a bit slow receiving emails, that's why ive never used it Did you find any other app that does the job? i also looking for an app which can remind me to reply emails later, because some emails come, i skim through it and will reply later when i have time. But sometimes i forget to reply, and very hard to find the mail again you have any solution for this?
cheers