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Make your battery last twice as long - HTC Desire

1. Turn your device ON, charge the device for 8 hours or more
2. Unplug the device,turn the phone OFF, charge for 1 hour
3. Unplug the device, turn ON wait 2 minutes (basically when the phone is all booted up and ready), turn OFF, charge for 1 hour
Happy longer battery life everyone!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7690163
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Franz Jakob Tim said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7690163
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Didn't notice it had already been put down similar.
My bad.

Does this really work?
Batterys die slow normally, does this recover them?

Franz Jakob Tim said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7690163
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Ive done the method from that thread and it worked the first time, second time and more didnt see any difference really unless you do that every charge but i guess that would just kill the battery

I have done all the above and did't see any changes

Would be nice if this would work, but I doubt it...

That doesnt do anything, i get good battery from not having any auto sync updates, brightness is low, widgets for 3g, gps wifi etc.. thats how i get up to 2 days normal usage on full load.

Didn't make any significant changes to mine. I guess if it ever really works then this would be a brain new, never charged battery.
I can only make like up to 24:00 (no use), usualy 7-10 hours of moderate use, can kill in an hour our two on gps.
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I used this method when I got Desire and it worked very well! In a meanwhile my battery life weakened, probably because of new ROMs and kernels...so should I repeat this to extend battery life?

that reads like overloading the battery. didnt that just work for the old type of batteries?

HTC uses Ni-MH batts, guys. These things attain long lifespans through two things mostly:
a) keeping it protected from extreme temperatures
b) frequent top-ups
I don't think the idea of keeping it plugged in after full charge is a good idea. The ff is from batteryuniversity.com:
"Lithium-ion suffers stress when exposed to heat and kept at a high charge voltage.
Elevated temperature is anything that dwells above 30°C (86°F), and a high voltage is higher than 4.10V/cell. When estimating longevity, these conditions are difficult to assess because the battery state is in constant flux, and so is the temperature in which it operates. Exposing the battery to high temperature and being at full state-of-charge for an extended time can be more damaging than cycling."

Doesn't work for me I really need more battery life!

I learned a long time ago, even before my smart phone days, that battery life is something I'll never had.
Quick fixes will never work, but preparedness will. For instance; I have 3 charging cables. 1 at home, 1 at work and one in my car. I even had a spare battery for my previous phone.
Things like the first post, I'll never bother trying. It's silly. And looking at the poll results says it all.

I recently did it and I got 2 days out of my battery.
But I assume it will weaken over time and slowly have no effect.

Borat38 said:
HTC uses Ni-MH batts, guys. These things attain long lifespans through two things mostly:
a) keeping it protected from extreme temperatures
b) frequent top-ups
I don't think the idea of keeping it plugged in after full charge is a good idea. The ff is from batteryuniversity.com:
"Lithium-ion suffers stress when exposed to heat and kept at a high charge voltage.
Elevated temperature is anything that dwells above 30°C (86°F), and a high voltage is higher than 4.10V/cell. When estimating longevity, these conditions are difficult to assess because the battery state is in constant flux, and so is the temperature in which it operates. Exposing the battery to high temperature and being at full state-of-charge for an extended time can be more damaging than cycling."
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What kernel is your ROM using?
Kernel's have a big impact on the life of your battery. I know mine doubled switching from kernels.

my phone has just recently started to give me the 15% warning then 2 minutes later switch off.
I used to get 10% and 5% before auto shut down.
I'm debranded orange on stock
2.2 2.29.405.5 (release keys)
kernel
2.6.32.15 [email protected]#1 (whatever that means)
Is this caused by software/rom based issues or is my battery on the way out?
(I did the fix in the OP and it did have a positive effect but that was months ago)

don't believe it's a good idea

Borat38 said:
HTC uses Ni-MH batts, guys. These things attain long lifespans through two things mostly:
a) keeping it protected from extreme temperatures
b) frequent top-ups
I don't think the idea of keeping it plugged in after full charge is a good idea. The ff is from batteryuniversity.com:
"Lithium-ion suffers stress when exposed to heat and kept at a high charge voltage.
Elevated temperature is anything that dwells above 30°C (86°F), and a high voltage is higher than 4.10V/cell. When estimating longevity, these conditions are difficult to assess because the battery state is in constant flux, and so is the temperature in which it operates. Exposing the battery to high temperature and being at full state-of-charge for an extended time can be more damaging than cycling."
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HTC Desire doesn't use Ni-MH
theturtleman said:
What kernel is your ROM using?
Kernel's have a big impact on the life of your battery. I know mine doubled switching from kernels.
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I'm interested in this, what kernel did you use first and to which one did you switch? Also what ROM do you use and how much battery life do you get now?
Grtz

Surely when the charge reaches 100% the charge is stopped?

battery on fire

Been Runin kingdom for weeks now had no issues til yesterday my battery started burning up the entire back of my evolution is very hot and i only get bout an our of life. I uninstalled all resent apps and haven't changed the way i charge the batteries. Any idea wnat's goin oh?

Your battery is fried.

it could be the kernel u used. I heard some cases where the sbc kernels were making the batteries smoke and basically garbage after that
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It looks like you're missing an essential accessory: http://www.amazon.com/Rome-3100-Chr...H9Q4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1306477812&sr=8-6

jesuspgt said:
It looks like you're missing an essential accessory: http://www.amazon.com/Rome-3100-Chr...H9Q4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1306477812&sr=8-6
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I got a good laugh out of that.
Though, if you were using an sbc kernel, guilt right there; or your battery is toast.

Love the stupid replies but its not the kernel i use a battery wall charger i never charge via USB

did you ever let the battery fully discharge?
i killed a Li-on battery on a laptop by always plugging it in and never letting it discharge.
now it only lasts about 10 minutes and dies when i unplug it.

Usually let it discharge to about 6% its multiple batteries and just started happening.

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Usually let it discharge to about 6% its multiple batteries and just started happening.
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Well the appropriate percentage to discharge is 5% because anything prior will only make your battery burn up and make the back plate hot and only give you 10 minute battery left thereafter. - see this explains all. close thread please.
Okay, so what it really sounds like is a case of a bad battery. Sometimes you just get those and you are the lucky person at that.
The mention about SBC kernels and the battery issues were even case-by-case at that. There were no proven conclusions but only hypothetical scenarios at best. I'm not discrediting ones who experienced it but just channeling logic.
For your matter, you do realize that the Kingdom ROM is never going to be 100% stable, as mentioned in the OP, so there could have been a freak instance of it not agreeing with your phone. The inevitable truth is that even if you and I have the same phone, same hardware, there are still small differences in parts sometimes and even those make one ROM or kernel agree and disagree with each of our own.
In short, I believe that it's best to go buy another battery in this case since it just sounds like you're going to need one anyways. As for the cause, it's hard to say because none of us really know your entire hardware build, kernel, applications used, and any other variables that could have caused this.
Here's a link to a ebay listing for batteries:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x2000mAh-Batte...898158?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c1a3706ee

If ur using a SBC kernel it doesn't matter how u charge ur phone. It would happen with wall charger or computer charge

Kool-aid anyone? I hope you people realize that the Kingdom ROM does not have SBC. Also that the hottest running components are right under the battery. Just from what the Op posted it sounds like the phone is heating up off the charger, and getting only a hour of battery life.
A number of things could cause the overheating condition. From an app grabbing the CPU and locking it at 100% to having the 4G radio on in a no-signal condition. The battery will also get very hot if it has a high load put on it as well again pointing to something other than SBC going awry. I would suggest that the Op do a complete wipe, and reinstall the ROM. Then install Battery Monitor, OS Monitor, and SeePU (to monitor the CPU activity).
Battery Monitor can keep track on how your battery is being used as well as the battery temp(and you can set a high temp alarm as well). SeePU monitors CPU, and network usage in real time. OSMonitor is a process monitor (much like top/kill in *nix, or TaskManager in Windows) so you can see, and kill off a runaway process.
Hopefully this is a bit more helpful.

we dont need no water let the mother F----er burn!

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If ur using a SBC kernel it doesn't matter how u charge ur phone. It would happen with wall charger or computer charge
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What i meant was i take the batteries out of the phone and put the battery itself into a wall charger but thanx

kf2m said:
Kool-aid anyone? I hope you people realize that the Kingdom ROM does not have SBC. Also that the hottest running components are right under the battery. Just from what the Op posted it sounds like the phone is heating up off the charger, and getting only a hour of battery life.
A number of things could cause the overheating condition. From an app grabbing the CPU and locking it at 100% to having the 4G radio on in a no-signal condition. The battery will also get very hot if it has a high load put on it as well again pointing to something other than SBC going awry. I would suggest that the Op do a complete wipe, and reinstall the ROM. Then install Battery Monitor, OS Monitor, and SeePU (to monitor the CPU activity).
Battery Monitor can keep track on how your battery is being used as well as the battery temp(and you can set a high temp alarm as well). SeePU monitors CPU, and network usage in real time. OSMonitor is a process monitor (much like top/kill in *nix, or TaskManager in Windows) so you can see, and kill off a runaway process.
Hopefully this is a bit more helpful.
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Thanks i will look into it. Good to see someone trying to help instead of just trying to feel superior. To everyone else i know what SBC does and i know I'm not using one.

SBC doesn't make batteries explode...more times than not you have bad battery
midget tossing is habit...2010 midwest regional champion... hw 001

Battery overheating a lot (CDMA version)

My battery seem to overheat alot,its even uncomfortable to hold up to my face sometimes. Is this normal? The back gets very hot two.
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My GN seems to get ridiculously hot pretty often for NO reason. Up around the camera is usually where the heat is focused.

Yup around the camera is where it happens to me too. It usually only happens when I stream Google Music or Slacker

Mines gets hot there too while im just browsing
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Just browsing? That can't be good. Are you rooted? If so, how high do you got your phone over clocked? Maybe you also may have too many processes opened

Most LTE devices heat up under browsing. Its not the battery that gets hot.
Also, I cannot think of a single phone I have had on Verizon that did not get warm during extended calls.

mine heats up a lot also. After talking or browsing for a while it does get warm.

What's your LTE signal strength? If you only have a bar or so, it's been my experience that the phone will heat up trying to keep the connection. At work, I've had to turn off LTE in order to keep the phone cool and save the battery.

eallan said:
My GN seems to get ridiculously hot pretty often for NO reason. Up around the camera is usually where the heat is focused.
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Two reasons why that area gets hot:
1) LTE antenna
2) SoC (CPU/GPU)
Both are in the top of the phone, away from the battery. If you're taxing either the CPU or your data connection, it will heat up. As long as your battery isn't getting hot (heat increases the decay rate in lithium-based batteries) you're fine. Silicon can take a lot more heat than your hand can without sustaining damage.

I might need to get a case for my phone and screen protector
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I have Battery Monitor Widget installed, and it has been enlightening. Here are my observations, using the charger that came with the phone:
The following behaviors happen on the stock ROM (using the Franco Kernel), CM9, and BlackIce:
If I am on WiFi and charging, it charges quickly, and the battery temperature reported by the app stays within the default limit (45C).
If I am on 3G, and on the charger (whether using the phone for anything or not!), the app shows the battery temp rising quickly, the charge rate drops to zero. The battery is no more than 35C based on my best guess when touching it, HOWEVER the area around the camera is very warm I (where the phone radios are). If I unplug the charger for a minute or two, the temp drops, and plugging back in will start charging again, for a short time, until it heats up again.
Underclocking seems to help this issue, as I discovered, a short while ago (playing with the BlackIce ROM, today), and I will update, once I play with it some more. This said, my suspicion is that the processor heating up is the issue, and NOT the battery, though Battery Monitor Widget claims the battery is overheating. Throttling the processor should help. Underclocking and undervolting BOTH, should help even more, I bet.

It's normal for LTE devices to warm up during extended/heavy use. It's not bad for the device unless you hear a pop or smell burning.
Heat shields FTW!

Smokeey said:
It's normal for LTE devices to warm up during extended/heavy use. It's not bad for the device unless you hear a pop or smell burning.
Heat shields FTW!
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It IS, however, a problem, if your device is getting warm enough that it ceases charging itself, which has been my experience.
Imagine this scenario: Your phone is below 15% charge, and you plug it in, hoping to be able to get through the day. It charges for five or maybe ten minutes, then you see the battery level start to DROP, rather than rise. (and forget charging, in the car, while you use navigation, or play music, of both) This is what is happening with mine.
The Battery Monitor Widget says that the battery is overheating, when, in fact this seems to be processor and radio related, since it only happens on 3G (and presumably LTE, though I haven't verified it) and only when allowed to operate at a normal clock speed on the CPU--forget overclocking, that worsens the issue, too, and all of this happens, even when the device is sitting idle.
This happened to me on both the FD01 and FD02 radios (I didn't use FC12 long enough matter), so I suspect that we can rule out the radio.
Reiterating, this happens on the stock ROM (with Franco Kernel), and both CM9 and BlackIce, with their respective kernels that they are packaged with. This begs the question of whether it is a problem with the process that monitors the battery charging using up more CPU than it seems necessary for such a mundane task,
Everything else on this phone works wonderfully, so I don't believe that I have a bad device. I should not have to UNDERCLOCK such a high tech device, so that i can charge it effectively when it is sitting idle.
Any thoughts on this? Anyone else have these issues?

[Q] Overheating on charge.

I charge my DHD every night over night, to make sure it has a full charge at the start of everyday. I've had my DHD for 16 months and I have had no problems with it ever. I've run many ROMS and kernels and its been rooted since the first week I got it. However it now overheats when I put it on charge almost every night.
I plug it in and the temperature will steadily rise from about 29 - 32C (which is what it runs at throughout the day) to over 40C, I've never seen what it actually reaches because since its over night I haven't monitored it that much. The highest I've seen it is 47C. After the first few occurrences of this I set a profile in setcpu to set the phone to 800Mhz when temperatures go over 38C. However this was to no avail. I then set it to underclock all the way down to 230Mhz when it goes over just 35C. But yet it still overheats when on charge so I don't think it has anything to do with my CPU? I changed kernels too but it still didn't help. The only reason this really annoys me is when it does over heat (lets say 1 in every 3 nights) I wake up and its just boot looping over and over until I do a battery pull. Which means my alarm hasn't been going off so I've had to dig out the old G1 the past two weeks just for it to act as an emergency alarm in case the DHD overheats.
I'm not sure what my problem is here, any insight?

Might want to try replacing the battery. Is it a third party bettery, those cheap "Gold 2000ma" batteries are notorious for overheating and being a bit rubbish. The other thing that might have happened is there is a short in the charging circuit which is causing the overheating.
I would say it's a 80% chance of it being a hardware problem. Try a different ROM if you are unsure.

If you have an o/c tool like no frills cpu control or anything like that, then that could be your issue too. Running high on cpu can cause overheat even when the phone is in sleep mode.
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Thanks for the replies.
I have my cpu overclocked during the day but I have a profile in setcpu which underclocks it to 230Mhz when the phone goes over 35C. I've seen this in affect and the cpu does downclock as expected yet my phone is still overheating.
I am using the stock HTC battery still and have had no issues with it before. I will try another ROM/kernel combo and see if it that resolves my issue just in case. Otherwise I might have to S-ON my phone again, put it back to stock and send it to HTC...

didge3 said:
Thanks for the replies.
I have my cpu overclocked during the day but I have a profile in setcpu which underclocks it to 230Mhz when the phone goes over 35C. I've seen this in affect and the cpu does downclock as expected yet my phone is still overheating.
I am using the stock HTC battery still and have had no issues with it before. I will try another ROM/kernel combo and see if it that resolves my issue just in case. Otherwise I might have to S-ON my phone again, put it back to stock and send it to HTC...
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I had this same problem it was the setcpu app or no frills create another profile and put the setting on charging and turn setting down or add profile when screens off 122-245 set priorities to high hope this helps

If it's not a software issue, your battery might be faulty and you should switch it as soon as you can.

starkilling said:
If it's not a software issue, your battery might be faulty and you should switch it as soon as you can.
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My Desire HD is fitted withe the original battery and its also getting hot during charging.

I've been monitoring my battery with 'Battery Monitor Widget' from the market, the recordings show that throughout the day my battery fluctuates between 20 - 30C depending on my usage. As soon as I plug it in however the battery immediately starts creeping up from low 30's to around 47C, this is where the monitoring stopped and has a huge gap until morning when I boot my phone again.
I applied a new profile in setcpu as suggested for charging instead of temperature and tested again last night, I set the charging profile to 230/384 min/max. The monitoring from last night shows the phone reached 40C by the time it'd charged to 100% and steadily started to cool back towards 30C, my phone was on when I woke up and functional so hopefully this is a temporary fix until I eventually have to get a new battery because I'm pretty certain its a hardware fault.
How long is the standard warranty for a Desire HD? If its 1 year then I'm out of luck and will have to buy a replacement...

didge3 said:
I've been monitoring my battery with 'Battery Monitor Widget' from the market, the recordings show that throughout the day my battery fluctuates between 20 - 30C depending on my usage. As soon as I plug it in however the battery immediately starts creeping up from low 30's to around 47C, this is where the monitoring stopped and has a huge gap until morning when I boot my phone again.
I applied a new profile in setcpu as suggested for charging instead of temperature and tested again last night, I set the charging profile to 230/384 min/max. The monitoring from last night shows the phone reached 40C by the time it'd charged to 100% and steadily started to cool back towards 30C, my phone was on when I woke up and functional so hopefully this is a temporary fix until I eventually have to get a new battery because I'm pretty certain its a hardware fault.
How long is the standard warranty for a Desire HD? If its 1 year then I'm out of luck and will have to buy a replacement...
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Did you ever try uninstalling the setcpu app or any cpu controller and try that.. another thing what Rom are you using . Did you try wiping the battery stats in recovery

hopesfall190 said:
Did you ever try uninstalling the setcpu app or any cpu controller and try that.. another thing what Rom are you using . Did you try wiping the battery stats in recovery
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Worth a try, Im using Virtuous Quattro RC3 at the moment. Although the ROM development seems to have died so I might try the other stock ICS ROM I see floating around for the DHD.
I've been told to dump setcpu about 948 times before due to performance issues it supposedly brings or other faults and I just cant tear myself away from it, I've had the widget on my home screen in the same place set up the same way for about 3 years across 2 different phones and about 20 different ROM's, I just cant seem to force myself to get rid of it.
Wiping my battery stats seems like a good idea and I'll make sure to do that tomorrow morning when my phone will be fully charged. I'll also change my ROM later this week and if I'm still getting issues I will TRY to ditch setcpu for a while. If I still have issues then I will have narrowed it down to some sort of hardware fault.

What temperature is your Pixel XL operating at?

I started another thread that has yielded zero useful information so I thought I would be very explicit this time about what I am looking for. I'm trying to figure out if I should RMA my device or not. My device is currently 98F in a 70F room and I'm doing nothing but typing this message. This seems like a high temperature to me but for all I know it's normal for this device. If other people who use battery monitor apps that include device temperature readings could let me know what temp their Pixel XL is operating at I would appreciate it and it will help me decide whether I should RMA this device or not. Thanks in advance if anyone actually responds with useful information.

31C at 26C

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31C at 26C
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That's the same temp as mine after conversion. Maybe that's a normal temp for this phone. Thanks for the response!

The Pixel is designed really differently than my previous phones so I'm having trouble figuring out what is normal on a Pixel. The CPU frequencies that this phone operates at would result in a significant performance lag on my previous phone, for example, but with the Pixel they result in the phone running very smooth and fast.

I have not messed with my frequencies, I'm running OctOS with the Elemental kernel at whatever it ships at.
so I went ahead and let my phone sit in my center console on my way home. for some reason the sun cooks this area of my truck and it's hot to touch even with the AC. After my trip home in 103F weather it was at 42C and did not shut down (I was streaming music over bluetooth from amazon music)

Idle : 30 - 35 C (phone goes below 30 C only when not used for more than 15-20 mins in a very cool room).
Medium Load: 35-40 C
Charging in the car, Charging while using Chrome etc: 40-44 C
Heavy Load: 42-48 C
I have owned Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p previously. This phone definitely runs hotter than all of them.
I got a replacement from Google, but it is the same problem.

fatapia said:
I have not messed with my frequencies, I'm running OctOS with the Elemental kernel at whatever it ships at.
so I went ahead and let my phone sit in my center console on my way home. for some reason the sun cooks this area of my truck and it's hot to touch even with the AC. After my trip home in 103F weather it was at 42C and did not shut down (I was streaming music over bluetooth from amazon music)
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I don't have air conditioning in my car, it was very hot outside, the phone was sitting in a cradle in direct sunlight and I was using the car charger, GPS and Spotify all at the same time--so it's possible my phone got much hotter than 42C when it did shut down. But I used my Nexus 6P and Samsung Galaxy S3 and S6 under identical circumstances and none of them ever overheated and shut down. They also didn't run anywhere near as hot as the Pixel XL when idle. My phone is generally 90-100F in an air conditioned apartment when I'm doing absolutely nothing with it--and multiple people have responded with similar temps for their own phones. If the idle temp for the phone is that high it's going to get super hot when using it under more demanding circumstances.

iamjimmy said:
Idle : 30 - 35 C (phone goes below 30 C only when not used for more than 15-20 mins in a very cool room).
Medium Load: 35-40 C
Charging in the car, Charging while using Chrome etc: 40-44 C
Heavy Load: 42-48 C
I have owned Nexus 5, Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p previously. This phone definitely runs hotter than all of them.
I got a replacement from Google, but it is the same problem.
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That really seems to be normal for this phone based on what others have been saying. Thanks for the detailed information.

jhs39 said:
That really seems to be normal for this phone based on what others have been saying. Thanks for the detailed information.
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No problem. Have you observed higher battery drain when the CPU heats up? I'm not sure phones are meant to be that hot. I haven't seen any other flagship heating up so much.

iamjimmy said:
No problem. Have you observed higher battery drain when the CPU heats up? I'm not sure phones are meant to be that hot. I haven't seen any other flagship heating up so much.
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I've never heard of another flagship phone that operates so hot. Battery does definitely drain faster the hotter the phone gets. But mine gets to 100F doing almost nothing.

jhs39 said:
I've never heard of another flagship phone that operates so hot. Battery does definitely drain faster the hotter the phone gets. But mine gets to 100F doing almost nothing.
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Yes, mine get to 100-105 F range quickly on battery temperature.
Yesterday I had the following youtube, whatsapp, Browser and Gmail - I was switching back and forth and the phone was on 43 C (110 F), (granted I had 1080p video on and was chatting to a friend as well and responding to emails).. I had to then clear all apps and stop using the phone to allow it to cool down. The CPU temperature was over 58 C (measured using elemental X kernal with root access).
Something is wrong with either the 2 NEW Pixel XL phones that Google has provided me OR with the Pixel XL phone in general. There has to be a hardware problem. Maybe some phones are worse than others? Maybe it is a quality control issue?

iamjimmy said:
Yes, mine get to 100-105 F range quickly on battery temperature.
Yesterday I had the following youtube, whatsapp, Browser and Gmail - I was switching back and forth and the phone was on 43 C (110 F), (granted I had 1080p video on and was chatting to a friend as well and responding to emails).. I had to then clear all apps and stop using the phone to allow it to cool down. The CPU temperature was over 58 C (measured using elemental X kernal with root access).
Something is wrong with either the 2 NEW Pixel XL phones that Google has provided me OR with the Pixel XL phone in general. There has to be a hardware problem. Maybe some phones are worse than others? Maybe it is a quality control issue?
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jesus 58?! mine only got to 45C and that's letting it sit in my center console while streaming youtube with the screen on

fatapia said:
jesus 58?! mine only got to 45C and that's letting it sit in my center console while streaming youtube with the screen on
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Well, that was CPU temperature. The battery temperature was 43-44 C. I had to use a custom Kernel with Root to measure CPU temp, as most apps only give battery temp.

iamjimmy said:
Well, that was CPU temperature. The battery temperature was 43-44 C. I had to use a custom Kernel with Root to measure CPU temp, as most apps only give battery temp.
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haha oops, I had no idea EXKM did that, just enabled it to see how my cpu fares

fatapia said:
haha oops, I had no idea EXKM did that, just enabled it to see how my cpu fares
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Thank you. EXKM will put a persistent notification.
I would be very interested to know what your temperatures are under mid-heavy load : both the battery temp and CPU temp.
It's basic knowledge that heat destroys processors and other circuits. I have to use coolers and thermal paste etc in my home computer when it gets too hot. I can't see why it would be different for a phone.

iamjimmy said:
Thank you. EXKM will put a persistent notification.
I would be very interested to know what your temperatures are under mid-heavy load : both the battery temp and CPU temp.
It's basic knowledge that heat destroys processors and other circuits. I have to use coolers and thermal paste etc in my home computer when it gets too hot. I can't see why it would be different for a phone.
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yeah that's why I was so shocked at the temp, get the inside hot enough and any soldered components will begin to loosen. well lets see how it does

Google tells me it's 34° and the battery is at 42.2°
I'd love to check with Daydream!

ASimpleSock said:
Google tells me it's 34° and the battery is at 42.2°
I'd love to check with Daydream!
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The phone is known to get very hot with Daydream. I'm more concerned with how hot the phone gets under normal operating conditions. My battery goes from 80F to 100F in seconds if I do anything as light as surfing the Internet, reading my email, browsing the XDA app or using the EBay app. 100F seems to be the base temperature of my battery if I am using the phone for anything. I suspect that Google knows these phones won't last more than a couple years. I'm not sure if I should wait to find out or just get rid of this thing while it still works. At least in the Nexus phones you had the option of flashing a custom kernel and changing the governor so the phone would run cooler. You can't do that with the Pixel--the phone runs at the same temps or even worse on a custom kernel. I already tried. I've never owned one but I'm curious if the Pixel XL runs significantly warmer than an iPhone. Or for that matter a flagship Samsung phone--other than the one that blew up, obviously.

https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...s-analysis-a-remarkable-consistent-performer/
So XDA went ahead and showed what the surface temp of their pixel is under their tests
http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html
I thought the temp of the cpu temp was high, but compared to other processors this is pretty average/on the low side
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/lithium_ion_safety_concerns
Turns out that's no where near as hot as it would need to be to be a safety issue for any of us.
http://bgr.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-note-7-battery-investigation/
if you're concerned why samsung exploded while ours hasn't, they have a good explanation about the construction of those batteries being flawed.

fatapia said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...s-analysis-a-remarkable-consistent-performer/
So XDA went ahead and showed what the surface temp of their pixel is under their tests
http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html
I thought the temp of the cpu temp was high, but compared to other processors this is pretty average/on the low side
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/lithium_ion_safety_concerns
Turns out that's no where near as hot as it would need to be to be a safety issue for any of us.
http://bgr.com/2017/01/23/galaxy-note-7-battery-investigation/
if you're concerned why samsung exploded while ours hasn't, they have a good explanation about the construction of those batteries being flawed.
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I'm not concerned with safety. I'm sure the Pixel is perfectly safe. I'm concerned this phone is going to eventually bootloop like the Nexus 6P, the Nexus 5X and multiple LG phones. I'm not one of those people who wants to have the latest of everything and if I spend a small fortune on something I actually want it to last for a long time. I do appreciate the links you provided and will look at the info later. Thanks.