Hi crew,
Anybody knows if the charger for the Note 10.1 will in the long run damage the Note II. From what I can see both have an output of 5V at around 2A.
The electronic knowledgeable peeps can shed some light?
PS: I think the Galaxy Tab line use the same charge the newer Galaxy Note 10.1 uses.
Thanks
Ron
AFAIK there should be no problems.
No it will definitely not/should not basically...
Although charging is optimum when using stock charger of any phone, its not that it can do any harm AFAIK
ron2k_1 said:
Anybody knows if the charger for the Note 10.1 will in the long run damage the Note II. From what I can see both have an output of 5V at around 2A.
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I have both and was interested in the question as well (do I need to carry both with me or will I have one in my travel bag and one @home).
I checked both and both are rated @2A so their capacaty is the same.
The note 10.1 shows only a 'red cross' in charging on the PC or on a charger from old Galaxy S2.
Now, plugged to the charget from Note II it works with same current than on original charger
Now I plugged the Note 2 into the Note 10.1 charger, and it's charging with same 1.8A as with original charger!
So from my side it's clear, they are interchangeable
I will use the Note 10.1 for home and the Note 2 charger for travel Old charger stays @ home, could make only 900mA...
P.s.: I checked charger currents by reading /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now with root explorer.
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Could anyone check the current rating of the supplied charger?
My Note should be arriving soon from the UK - although I could use an international plug converter, I don't really like the idea.
On the other hand I have a Belkin charger for my iPhone for 0.5A. Do you think this is enough?
Thx.
No. The original charger has an output 2 A at 5 V. And even with 2 A the Note 10.1 is only slowly charging.
The charger is rated 2A.
In addition, it uses a nonstandard method for "dumb charger" detection. If you connect an iPad charger or a standard 2A charger, it will not be detected.
The device needs to see D+ and D- shorted together AND floating at around 1.2 volts to charge. Same rules as all other Samsung tablets.
It is possible to find special Samsung Tablet charging adapters that will let it be used with iPad 2A chargers - here's an example of a DIY one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675042
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-power-adapter-for-samsung-p1000-81753?item=2 or
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-data-charging-extension-cable-for-samsung-p1000-black-91141?item=4
will work - if those links break, just search for "P1000" on dealextreme - The charger standard and detection mechanism are common for all known Galaxy Tab models.
I'm using the same ones I had for the 7.0+ and 7.7 and they're charging the 10.1 just fine. Looks like .35A (old eyes here)!
The Tab 10.1 charger should work, right?
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-travel-adapter-for-galaxy-tab-10-1.html#tabContainer
oznick said:
The Tab 10.1 charger should work, right?
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-travel-adapter-for-galaxy-tab-10-1.html#tabContainer
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I am also interested in this cause I bought a 10.1 note and I lost my charger
oznick said:
The Tab 10.1 charger should work, right?
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-travel-adapter-for-galaxy-tab-10-1.html#tabContainer
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Tab 10.1 chargers will work. In fact I haven't even pulled my original charger out of the box, using the Tab 10.1 charger I already have.
Entropy512 said:
The charger is rated 2A.
In addition, it uses a nonstandard method for "dumb charger" detection. If you connect an iPad charger or a standard 2A charger, it will not be detected.
The device needs to see D+ and D- shorted together AND floating at around 1.2 volts to charge. Same rules as all other Samsung tablets.
It is possible to find special Samsung Tablet charging adapters that will let it be used with iPad 2A chargers - here's an example of a DIY one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675042
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-power-adapter-for-samsung-p1000-81753?item=2 or
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-data-charging-extension-cable-for-samsung-p1000-black-91141?item=4
will work - if those links break, just search for "P1000" on dealextreme - The charger standard and detection mechanism are common for all known Galaxy Tab models.
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My Note won't charge from an iPad charger but it has no trouble charging from an inexpensive PowerGen charger with the original Samsung cable or a cheap copycat cable.
Haidozo said:
My Note won't charge from an iPad charger but it has no trouble charging from an inexpensive PowerGen charger with the original Samsung cable or a cheap copycat cable.
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I guess apple and samsung are real bussiness enemies
But, it's still better to use the original charger. And yes correct, with the 2A output rated, the note also slowly charge. Different from the N7000, which is quite fast to charge.
Can anyone link me to an identical charger to that which came out of the box that I can buy? Need to return my Note 10.1 but I have lost my cord.
Edit: Or one that at least looks identical.
Here's a good deal on the OEM charger. Be careful on eBay and Amazon, a lot of what's sold there are knock-offs.
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/samsung-galaxy-tab-wall-charger.html
And the 5V car charger too...
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/samsung-galaxy-tab-vehicle-power-adapter-w-detachable-cable.html
Check amazon.com for Samsung galaxy note 10.1 accessories.
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Here's a good deal on the OEM charger. Be careful on eBay and Amazon, a lot of what's sold there are knock-offs.
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/samsung-galaxy-tab-wall-charger.html
And the 5V car charger too...
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/samsung-galaxy-tab-vehicle-power-adapter-w-detachable-cable.html
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I may pull the trigger on one of these. However, it is disconcerting to see a review of a cord that is also marketed as a a Galaxy Tab cord being reported by a reviewer on amazon as not fitting or charging.
Here's that cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...P0UBEGSTA/dp/B004DBD4TG/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_1
Do you have personal experience with this cord from all4cellular fitting/charging your note 10.1 device?
mt6272 said:
I may pull the trigger on one of these. However, it is disconcerting to see a review of a cord that is also marketed as a a Galaxy Tab cord being reported by a reviewer on amazon as not fitting or charging.
Do you have personal experience with this cord from all4cellular fitting/charging your note 10.1 device?
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The cord on Amazon's probably a knock-off. Yes, I've bought from all4cellular before. I've also gotten burned a couple of times on Amazon and eBay. E-mail them and confirm what's listed on their website is a genuine Samsung product. It may be shipped in a cellophane package vs. retail packaging but that won't matter as long as it’s OEM.
Can u use a 12v charger to charge n10.1 faster?
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smrsxn said:
Can u use a 12v charger to charge n10.1 faster?
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If you wish to burn your GN 10.1, yes. Otherwise, for your safety, no.
There are plenty of car chargers on eBay for the Note & Tab 10.1.
There is a brand called Pleomax, which is another brand name of Samsung accessories out of Korea.
You can also get a Samsung Note 10.1 charger (which is really the same as the Tab) for about 18.00 and plus 3.50 for shipping.
See eBay Item number: 160865117877. This is the one I just purchased.
The Note and Tab chargers are all 12v and 2a rated.
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The Note and Tab chargers are all 12v and 2a rated.
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No... They are not. 5 volts output at up to 2A, not 12 volts.
Car chargers accept 12 volt INPUT, but the OUTPUT (to the Tab/Note) is 5v.
12v will fry the Tab/Note. The Note and Tab use a more standard charger detection algorithm than Asus Transformers (which actually have 12v charging...)
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No... They are not. 5 volts output at up to 2A, not 12 volts.
Car chargers accept 12 volt INPUT, but the OUTPUT (to the Tab/Note) is 5v.
12v will fry the Tab/Note. The Note and Tab use a more standard charger detection algorithm than Asus Transformers (which actually have 12v charging...)
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Correct. 5v output. I guess I didn't express that clearly.
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If you buy this Pleomax charger http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-GENUINE...210563?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e70f65483 can I use it to charge my Samsung Galaxy S3 as well or will the 2a output be a problem? or Do I need one of these http://www.amazon.com/ReVIVE-DualFL...7410690&sr=8-3&keywords=note+10.1+car+charger
dja2k
I recently bought a official samsung car charger ECA-P10CBEG to charge my galaxy note 10.1
BIG MISTAKE. This charger does not charge galaxy note 10.1 tablet at all.
I tried the carger in my car, and a cross came over the battery that indicated that the tablet was not going to charge.
This car charger comes with official 30 pin samsung cable and can charge most galaxy tabs
full list of compatable tabs that work with this charger: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ECA-P10CBEGSTA-compatible
So, I chatted with a samsung representative, who also re-iterated that samsung galaxy tab charges won't work with note 10.1
(see attched image of conversation)
and that I need to call J&J to check if there may be a car charger for note 10.1. there isn't.
Just creating this thread to alert ppl, not to waste money buying samsung galaxy tab car charger.
Also, I asked about tablet's sensitivity reduced when it's placed on charging.... I suggested that this may be because the charger was defective and not earthing properly... guess what was the response....
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Tab should not be used while charging.
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OMG, I rolled laughing. a bit like your holding it the wrong way.
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Also, I asked about tablet's sensitivity reduced when it's placed on charging.... I suggested that this may be because the charger was defective and not earthing properly... guess what was the response....
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OMG, I rolled laughing. a bit like your holding it the wrong way.
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Does it charge other devices like your phone? Maybe the charger is defective because these chargers can't tell apart different devices.
The wall charger can charge my galaxy note tablet just fine.
Just that there is a loss of touch sesitivity when the tablet is charging. Many other folks on this forum have had this issue.
The car charger does not charge galaxy note tablet. Don't have any other device that works with 2A current to try plugging in on the car charger to see if it works. I am pretty sure that car charger is good, though. Just that it does not have enough amperes to charge note tablet.
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Hello guys from XDA!! I would like to tell you something that just happened and something strange. I got a Note 8.0 N5100 which came with the software CLARO, the only thing i did was change the ROM from CLARO to a clear one whitout the icons . when the flashing process ends and the Note 8.0 start i realize than the battery was in 0% and whean i connect the charged did not charge.
Now, here is the weird part:
- I realize that the Note 8.0 has a connector from the Galaxy Tab 2 (the width), and i saw on the videos even in the samsung store that this Note 8.0 has the standard connector from all the galaxy's (i9100,i9300,i9400, etc)
I think that my problem its because of that, as i put the ROM from the Note 8.0 normal (with connector standard) and i seek for the ROM that had before in all the website and i didn't found anything.I not even found a comment about this kind of Note 8.0.
I would be glad know if somebody can help me with this or give me some suggestion
Thanks
Sorry for the english its not my home leguage
We cant understand anything im sorry
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the galaxy note 8 uses a standard micro usb port, not the 30 pin like the other galaxy tablets. it does need a 2.1A charger to get the rapid charge going, or you'll be stuck at trickle charging and it'll take a good while to charge. if you don't have the charge and just a usb cable and a computer just hook it up to the computer and let it sit for a few hours. you should maybe have 50% after 4-5 hours.
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madsquabbles said:
the galaxy note 8 uses a standard micro usb port, not the 30 pin like the other galaxy tablets. it does need a 2.1A charger to get the rapid charge going, or you'll be stuck at trickle charging and it'll take a good while to charge. if you don't have the charge and just a usb cable and a computer just hook it up to the computer and let it sit for a few hours. you should maybe have 50% after 4-5 hours.
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what happens is that came with the connector on the galaxy tab. Always charged so. at the time of change the ROM has stopped charging and battery 0%. What do you think it is?
try another charging adaptor or a different cable
Could you please posts the photo of the connector on your piece and the charger you got?
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I thought I had a bad ROM, but apparently it was a bad cable. And it seems as though the geniune cable does a "bit" more.
I didn't even think there would be a difference in between my Samsung Galaxy S3 cable and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 cable, but there is.
I've been using an app call Galaxy Current Lite to see why it's been taking 8 hours to charge from 4%-100%. I have used the original charger cable that came with my Note 8.0 as well as the original set that came with my SGS3. Both yield the same result. Galaxy Current Lite showed max 500ma was going through.
After being frustrated I took my Note 8.0 to a store with another Note 8.0 store display, plugged it in and check it with Galaxy Current app... load and behold it was getting 1800ma.
So apparently the cable does make a difference. So I went to buy the geniune Samsung travel kit, while I deal with warranty replacement from Samsung tomorrow. I also found out that using a cable that is for Note 8.0 via my SGS3 or Apple AC to USB also gave a 1100ma and 900ma respectively.
So if you are having issues SLOW charging... grab the app and check. It could be the cable. And if it is... DO NOT GET A GENERIC. I tried a generic charging ONLY cable with the original Samsung charger it yield 468ma
Hope this will help others
mbze430 said:
I thought I had a bad ROM, but apparently it was a bad cable. And it seems as though the geniune cable does a "bit" more.
I didn't even think there would be a difference in between my Samsung Galaxy S3 cable and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 cable, but there is.
I've been using an app call Galaxy Current Lite to see why it's been taking 8 hours to charge from 4%-100%. I have used the original charger can cable that came with my Note 8.0 as well as the original set that came with my SGS3. Both yield the same result. Galaxy Current Lite showed max 500ma was going through.
After being frustrated I took my Note 8.0 to a store with another Note 8.0 store display, plugged it in and check it with Galaxy Current app... load and behold it was getting 1800ma.
So apparently the cable does make a difference. So I went to buy the geniune Samsung travel kit, while I deal with warranty replacement from Samsung tomorrow. I also found out that using a cable that is for Note 8.0 via my SGS3 or Apple AC to USB also gave a 1300ma current instead of 1800ma.
So if you are having issues SLOW charging... grab the app and check. It could be the cable. And if it is... DO NOT GET A GENERIC.
Hope this will help others
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Let me first confirm this and also post some of my findings in the past.
I have 3 samsung oem ones all having issues and then a generic and another from a nokia and they are the ones I've been using as they are shorter + thicker and give me 1800 ma constantly. I don't have any issues with generic ones as long as you use original charger.
When my note 8 went to service center for mother board and screen replacement (liquid damage), I confirmed with tech if there was something special inside the samsung cable, and was told that though he cannot disclose that, but even if there was, it's not related to charging, told me to just use any good/decent quality cable.
The Nokia one I have is CA-101D and it's extremely short in length (few inches) but good enough for unattended charging on table.
Apart from galaxy current like, one can also use battery monitor widget and in it's settings set measuring method to samsung one and it will also start showing what current you are getting as well as track charge/drain cycles.
I purposely use a 0.7A to charge my Note 8 overnight..
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Genuine or not is not the point. One should use a cable designed to carry the needed current. Some cables are designed to carry only 500mA or 1A, especially in the old days. Nowadays with the power hungry smart phones/tablets, you would want to use a cable that can carry at least 2A or even 3A. If you are not looking specifically for these spec and grab just any USB cable randomly, chances are you would be limiting the current. Certainly the Samsung cable that comes with your device would supply sufficient current. But if you don't feel like traveling with a dedicated cable for each one of your devices, just buy a 3A rated cable, it would work across all of your devices. A 3A cable would be future proof for a while.
mbze430 said:
I thought I had a bad ROM, but apparently it was a bad cable. And it seems as though the geniune cable does a "bit" more.
I didn't even think there would be a difference in between my Samsung Galaxy S3 cable and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 cable, but there is.
I've been using an app call Galaxy Current Lite to see why it's been taking 8 hours to charge from 4%-100%. I have used the original charger cable that came with my Note 8.0 as well as the original set that came with my SGS3. Both yield the same result. Galaxy Current Lite showed max 500ma was going through.
After being frustrated I took my Note 8.0 to a store with another Note 8.0 store display, plugged it in and check it with Galaxy Current app... load and behold it was getting 1800ma.
So apparently the cable does make a difference. So I went to buy the geniune Samsung travel kit, while I deal with warranty replacement from Samsung tomorrow. I also found out that using a cable that is for Note 8.0 via my SGS3 or Apple AC to USB also gave a 1100ma and 900ma respectively.
So if you are having issues SLOW charging... grab the app and check. It could be the cable. And if it is... DO NOT GET A GENERIC. I tried a generic charging ONLY cable with the original Samsung charger it yield 468ma
Hope this will help others
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I tried some current apps, and found them to drain my battery, so be careful.
I used 2 meter Sony, BlackBerry, no name brands, and a case logic 10 footer. All did very well with high current charging.
The OEM Samsung almost killed my Note 8.0 by fire! After a few months the thin wires shorted out at the micro usb plug, and super heated. Won't use Samsung cables anymore.
My issue is plug life, micro usb sux big time for plug in design. No wonder USB3 has become a popular change to manufacturers of chargeable devices.
I just recently got a Galaxy Note 2 and I"m wondering if the chargers are interchangable between the phone and the tablet. Also any cool tips on how to use my note 2 and note 10.1 2014 together would be appreciated
I'm also kind of curious as to what color charger came with the black model? My black model came with a white charger which I thought was odd.
gina$zanboti said:
I just recently got a Galaxy Note 2 and I"m wondering if the chargers are interchangable between the phone and the tablet. Also any cool tips on how to use my note 2 and note 10.1 2014 together would be appreciated
I'm also kind of curious as to what color charger came with the black model? My black model came with a white charger which I thought was odd.
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Yes the chargers are interchangeable but the one that comes with the tablet might have a higher output and charge faster.
They are both 2amp chargers so I wouldn't think you would see a difference using either one
the tablet charger is at 5.3V and the phone is at 5V. it doesn't seem to do any harm, but i can't say about long term effects.
so the 5v works fine in the tablet, but possible ill effects if you use the 5.3V(tablet charger) on the phone.