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Watching Netflix or anything in full screen it's noticeable. Very noticeable. After one week of owning it about a month ago, I saw a similar topic and thought "this would never happen to me". Fast forward a month later, I have it. And a scratch on my screen after putting it in my pocket only with nothing else in it.
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monkey hung said:
Watching Netflix or anything in full screen it's noticeable. Very noticeable. After one week of owning it about a month ago, I saw a similar topic and thought "this would never happen to me". Fast forward a month later, I have it. And a scratch on my screen after putting it in my pocket only with nothing else in it.
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Take a photo and post it please.
Mine does too, mighty thanks to amoled
This is going to happen regardless of what you do.
Acceptance is key
Can someone post a picture? I would like to see what all the fuss is about.
By nav bar, do you mean the notification/status bar? If so, I know exactly what you're talking about. The static cyan text is a burn-in waiting to happen. I noticed a little bit of cyan tint in that area when brightness is low and the screen is white. It's by no means that bad at all but I use the hide the status bar option in ADW to prevent it from getting worse. 2 months later and it hasn't gotten worse.
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By nav bar, do you mean the notification/status bar? If so, I know exactly what you're talking about. The static cyan text is a burn-in waiting to happen. I noticed a little bit of cyan tint in that area when brightness is low and the screen is white. It's by no means that bad at all but I use the hide the status bar option in ADW to prevent it from getting worse. 2 months later and it hasn't gotten worse.
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By nav bar they mean the soft keys (Home - Menu - Recent - Back) buttons on the bottom.
Oh, in that case I haven't seen that problem but I have heard of people with it. You can get rid of those soft-keys with custom mods too that makes your phone full-screen.
I noticed this on my Gnex as well. Rotating the screen clockwise to a landscape orientation, the left side of my screen where the soft buttons were has a notably bluer tint. For the record, I keep my screen on auto, which I was hoping would reduce the burn-in effect. Setting the screen brightness to 100% seems to hide the burn-in. Dunno if that will always be true.
Even worse, when I did a screen compare of my previous Nexus vs the display model at the Verizon store back in early Jan, the demo model's screen was noticeably dimmer and off color even at full brightness. Seemed like running in torch mode 24/7 with a bright red background caused the screen to degrade noticeably after only a week or so.
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The only time I notice any sort of image retention (relating to the notification bar) is when I first open the XDA app and it quickly goes full screen. Other than that I never see it. However, I commonly see image retention going from home screen to Market but it fades very quickly.
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Mine as well as my friend's has burn-in at the top and bottom where the status bar is and the soft buttons. Also my old nexus S as well as my friend's has burn in at the top status bar. It's inevitable I guess...
I started seeing this too but i quickly switched to transparent top and bottom bars so that those pixels got even wear, and it actually reversed my burn in mostly. My screen is near perfect now.
this happen to me, too. it sucks. can this be exchanged in person somewhere instead of shipping it? i don't want to wait.
Burn in was a term for lcd screens. For this situation think of it as "reverse led fatigue". The leds that are not used as much as the rest of the screen will appear brighter giving you the impression that it is burn in. On the first gen amoled's some would leave and entire white screen on full brightness overnight to normalize or calibrate the leds. Doesn't bug me one bit though.
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Burn in was a term for lcd screens. For this situation think of it as "reverse led fatigue". The leds that are not used as much as the rest of the screen will appear brighter giving you the impression that it is burn in. On the first gen amoled's some would leave and entire white screen on full brightness overnight to normalize or calibrate the leds. Doesn't bug me one bit though.
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Exactly right. But the term burn in is so familiar to people it will likely never change.
I forgot to say that to eliminate this burn in i also use full screen browser at all times to hide the status bar. And i consistently rotate the screen to different views while i read my webpages to give the other pixels a rest. The effect is excellent.
To test this the best, install dead pixel detect from market and toggle thru every color. Rotate the screen too to see both areas. The color red is the only one that shows the burn in for me. Which is strange cause blue is the weak color that wears out the quickest. But my blue looks fine.
This will probably happen to all of us to some degree sooner or later.
The image retention that lasts 1-3 seconds we might see within a month or two usage is actually one of the characteristics of AMOLED "Ghosting effect"
which is not the same as AMOLED "reverse led fatigue" (or although technically incorrect but more widely understood term "Burn-ins") which maybe seen as permanent image retention shown as yellowish outlines of icons / keyboard outlines, etc.
Sadly, there's really nothing you can do about this problem after the fact, except to change the screen itself if it is really bothersome. Or you may try to change/delete/make transparent of the permanently placed icons/other objects/pictures to try to reverse these effects.
The only preventive measures would be changing screen rotation from vertical to horizontal, and make sure you don't have the screen on at a stay still image (preferably set auto screen off to 30seconds or so.)
It is humorous how particular many people are about "pocket" screens. Oled technology in reality is like the merger of lcd and plasma screens. And oled does get image retention and burn in similar to plasma. It is harder to avoid on a cell phone with so many possibilities of static images. Really though, it is good to mention/complaint about it so it gets attention and oled manufacturers try to improve upon the technology and try to minimize or get rid of the issues altogether. Many people still think plasmas get burn in very easily and that is far from the truth. The last 3 years or so Panasonic and Samsung have made great strides in minimizing the possibility and you see very few complaints about it. And it is even more humorous that many people think lcd technology is better for viewing because it is newer than plasma when the exact opposite is true. LCD technology is older than plasma, and aside from power usage and weight, lcd doesn't have many benefits over plasma. And because of the post processing to try and overcome the deficiencies of lcd viewing lcd screens are closing the gap in power consumption with plasma. But yeah, all you can do about the image retention of oled now is put pressure on samsung and lg and any newcomers to the technology to improve it. Hopefully, oled will overcome its shortcomings to lcd and plasma and be the better tech out of all three in the near future. I wish they made laptops with plasma screens. That would be an awesome option for laptop users that use theirs as desktop replacements like myself.
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I don't have any "burn in". I guess different screens behave differently.
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I don't have any "burn in". I guess different screens behave differently.
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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All my pixels are fine but I notice the notification bar retention on brown with the XDA app and I notice the bottom (whatever it's called bar) on grey from the app you suggested. Either way, I still love the phone!!!
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Many people think they dont have it till they install dead pixel detect and check each color. I bet you have it on the color red.
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I don't. Out of curiosity I tried that app out after reading about it on this thread.
Hello, I intend to buy the Galaxy Nexus but the problem of the screen burn-in scares me. When I buy a phone, it's for two years, does the problem still exists in the new series?
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I know the ones at the store have this problem, but thats because they are full brightness all the time. I make it a point to use my phone in landscape clockwise, i.e. with pogo pins down, so the on screen buttons are on the opposite side as they usually are, and i haven't noticed any burn in. In low brightness conditions, you'll occasionally see some ghosting, but its not a big deal. They gave you extra blue pixels (rbgb), since those are the ones that are the weakest, to make sure your screen lasts 2 years.
had gnex since release date and had no problems with it what so ever, however, when bough had issues with screen itself e.g uneven colouring and banding (quite visible grey bars), replaced it and the model i got is fine so far...
I use most of the time my phone with middle brightness or minimum+screen filter during the night, as i don't use it at maximum, i will not get burn-in ?
Never had this issue with any phone.
Don't wanna open a new thread since this is a similar topic.
I've noticed a very faint light blue-ish stripe on my screen (where the notification bar is) while reading text on a white background (in fullscreen).
Is that burn-in? If so, is it covered under warranty?
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Don't wanna open a new thread since this is a similar topic.
I've noticed a very faint light blue-ish stripe on my screen (where the notification bar is) while reading text on a white background (in fullscreen).
Is that burn-in? If so, is it covered under warranty?
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People say it is not burn in but uneven wear of the pixels. I know if read about people running a white background I think it was overnight on high and it will start to remove the marks. The idea is to run other colors to wear in the spot evenly as the top bar usually is only running black.
If you do some searching around in these threads you will read what others have done and what has worked.
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Don't wanna open a new thread since this is a similar topic.
I've noticed a very faint light blue-ish stripe on my screen (where the notification bar is) while reading text on a white background (in fullscreen).
Is that burn-in? If so, is it covered under warranty?
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I have this too, but calling it burn-in is wrong I think. Those pixels are black (i.e. turned off) most of the time, so they couldn't possibly be "burned into" the screen. Rather, the issue seems to be that they are getting used too little, so they are not worn in as much as the rest of the screen. Since all screens of this type change slightly over time as they get used, there is a small but noticeable difference in how these different areas of the screen display certain colors.
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People say it is not burn in but uneven wear of the pixels. I know if read about people running a white background I think it was overnight on high and it will start to remove the marks. The idea is to run other colors to wear in the spot evenly as the top bar usually is only running black.
If you do some searching around in these threads you will read what others have done and what has worked.
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I haven't tried this, but it certainly seems like it could work.
Thx. Will try that
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The app "Display Tester" has a burn-in removal function that some people have found useful.
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How is the burn in factor any different than the great of the screens out there the gs3 epic vibrant you get the point aren't they all s amoled or amoled plus screens how would this phone differer with the burn in factor on the other devices
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GN got a nav bar present all the time, and it will get burned in, most people don't realize though they have it.
Same goes for notification bar.
They need to be semi transparent to fix the issue which we don't have.
Even the browser doesn't remove the nav bar.
Only YouTube and full screen movies will show you that issue.
So by now we should be all aware that the blue sub pixels on OLED screens wears out the fastest, so as time passes the screen tone will noticeably change.
On my 2 month old Note 2 I can already notice a difference. Because my status bar is black, the pixels are turned off, and the results are that the area of the screen under the status bar gets burnt in (or aging) while the status bar area remains untouched.
You can check the your screen aging by entering test mode by typing *#0*#
Select the blue and you should be able to notice a difference.
The results of the blue sub pixels aging is that whites turns into yellow, and colors in general appears more dull.
Is this fixable via calibration?
Just checked mine, and mine is fine, had my note 2 since launch day in the uk.
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I'd say it's impossible for a 2 month old device to have burnt in screen, especially with Note's 2 new pixel arrangement. Your screen might be defective to have burnt in so quickly. Also i don't think calibration could solve it - if those pixels are indeed burnt in, they're half-dead and you can't calibrate just a part of display.
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I'd say it's impossible for a 2 month old device to have burnt in screen, especially with Note's 2 new pixel arrangement. Your screen might be defective to have burnt in so quickly. Also i don't think calibration could solve it - if those pixels are indeed burnt in, they're half-dead and you can't calibrate just a part of display.
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To be fair it's been through some heavy use. For my Note 2 every day is like the day it came out of the box - The ride never ends
And don't mistake this as defective, because it is not. It is simply how oled works. Just from googling you can see that many S2 and S3 users are having this issue.
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So by now we should be all aware that the blue sub pixels on OLED screens wears out the fastest, so as time passes the screen tone will noticeably change.
On my 2 month old Note 2 I can already notice a difference. Because my status bar is black, the pixels are turned off, and the results are that the area of the screen under the status bar gets burnt in (or aging) while the status bar area remains untouched.
You can check the your screen aging by entering test mode by typing *#0*#
Select the blue and you should be able to notice a difference.
The results of the blue sub pixels aging is that whites turns into yellow, and colors in general appears more dull.
Is this fixable via calibration?
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Crikey, have you been leaving it on for hours at a time always on the full brightness?
I rarely use mine outdoors so keep the brightness on the middle setting, or right down at the bottom in bed unless watching a video. No visible problems on mine.
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So by now we should be all aware that the blue sub pixels on OLED screens wears out the fastest, so as time passes the screen tone will noticeably change.
On my 2 month old Note 2 I can already notice a difference. Because my status bar is black, the pixels are turned off, and the results are that the area of the screen under the status bar gets burnt in (or aging) while the status bar area remains untouched.
You can check the your screen aging by entering test mode by typing *#0*#
Select the blue and you should be able to notice a difference.
The results of the blue sub pixels aging is that whites turns into yellow, and colors in general appears more dull.
Is this fixable via calibration?
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so far haven't noticed any issues on my note, but then i again i don't have a black status bar, my screen brightness is usually low, browser is always full screen, no sign of burn in so far.
maybe your using ur phone at max brightness as a bedtime clock everyday....
Well so far i havent had seen anything on mine either and i use it alot. Ive always knew about this with the oled screens. So i looked it up about the life. Wiki says 14000hours of life for the blue and thats minimum, with new tech probly alot more now. So take 14000hours for 24 hours a day. thats 1.6 years of having the screen on continious. So im thinking u have other issues and its not the wear of the blue. Especially on a couple month old phone. Also it says u start seeing a yellow hue when the blues are going. Might want to look into something else instead of the oled screen. Just my observation. Maybe u just got a bad screen altogether. Sorry about ur luck.
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And don't mistake this as defective, because it is not. It is simply how oled works.
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I know, all oled screen have this issues, but it's been 2 months, and even if you used it 24/7... that's just ~1500 hours. Red/green leds have 50-250k of lifetime, and for blue leds it's 15-50k ( depending on manufacturing process, versions etc. ). However we look at this - it's still less than 1/10 of it's absolutely minimum lifetime... that's not really acceptable - i'd try contacting Samsung and asking them about replacement - the worst thing that can happen is a big harsh "no" from them
I've been using my Note II for the last four months now, the screen is usually on not lesser than 8-10 hours a day and so far I've not noticed any screen deterioration of any kind or color change also should add that I use outdoors a lot.
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I got my HTC One recently (last Friday) and it was a perfect phone! no problems whatsoever...
Yesterday i was playing with the phone with a colourful background wallpaper from HTC and i noticed light bleeding from the top (hold it in a angle and you can see a light bar shine through like this:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...een-issues-uploadfromtaptalk1367129491252.jpg
It isn't that big of a deal but for a phone that costs over 500 euro's here in my country.. you expect that it is build properly and backlight bleeding on a phone at this price!?
I compared 4 HTC's in the store and they all got the same problem
GPe dims the edges of the screen, so it's harder to notice if it's there. I haven't ran sense in a while so I can't tell either, but I can't notice this light bar effect on my phone either. So it may just be that batch of phones.
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Got it in in my bottom right corner... very minimal though
Wow, that's massively anal lol.
mine was the whole top screen.. but it doesn't matter, that's just HTC right..? They're known for the screen bleeding, haha..
I've been having this issue on the bottom of the display. It makes the nav buttons look funny and full-screen content is washed out.
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I've been having this issue on the bottom of the display. It makes the nav buttons look funny and full-screen content is washed out.
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Here's mine. Italian H3g branded:
That light bleed above is probably a bit excessive bit you guys have to realize that all LCD screens are going to have some light bleed. You can usually make it less noticeable by using a lower brightness setting. If you are really anal about the slightest amount of bleed you should really be looking into phones with AMOLED displays. That said, if the light bleed is washing out the nav bar at reasonable brightness settings you should try to get it fixed or replaced.
My M8 has some bleed on the top left corner at normal brightness and I'll notice it across the entire top if I go full brightness in a dark room. At normal brightness it doesn't bother me at all.
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Hey everyone,
I got my black AT&T Note 4 earlier today. I noticed the lower half of the screen is slightly darker, and has a slight pinkish tint on a white screen.
I do notice it in some apps, like Kindle when readinga book. Top of screen is slightly brighter, and when background is white there's a very slight pink tint.
Is that normal? Or should brightness be uniform and no tint?
EDIT: I added a photo. It's not a good photo but you can see how one side is tinted differently. In the photo the brighter top looks greenish but in real life it's not green. You can also the slight pinkish tint in the bottom half, which is the left side of the photo.
I wouldn't want to comment based on the image you uploaded directly since how a camera captures a digital display is much different than what the naked eye will see. If the picture on the panel is not consistent and appears polarized in any way, I would consider that to be faulty. Get it replaced.
Galaxy Note 4 (pink tint lower screen)
Hi there,
I have also noticed a pink tint on the lower half of the screen on new Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
As i intend to do a lot of drawing on this device the tint is unacceptable.
I wonder if there is a way to calibrate the display?
I had this issue with my Galaxy S3 display. I had at&t exchange it.
Have this same issue on my Note 4. Posted some pics over in the thread on this topic for the Note 3 before I thought to check here. Basically there's a brightness and gamma gradient from top to bottom. The top half is perfect and the bottom half gradually fades to a point where you lose the first 8-9 squares on the lagom.nl black level test.
This one emphasizes the black crush, which can be visible in video content on a dark screen (and makes dark colored backgrounds fade to black towards the bottom):
And here's one on a white background. At first it seems like a white point issue (which I would tolerate since it's common on IPS as well), but it's a brightness gradient:
Between this and the fact that AT&T disabled the slider for auto brightness I'm a little frustrated with this supposed best smartphone display ever (I realize this second issue isn't Samsung's fault, but the auto brightness is unusable without that feature). I bought the phone at Best Buy which is mostly out of stock right now so an exchange isn't likely, assuming they even take this seriously as an issue.
My note 4 does not display this issue.
No issues here. Display looks very consistent.
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My note 4 does not display this issue.
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Have you tried a dark background in a dark room? For me it wasn't that obvious until I did this (was messing around in Sketchbook). If the majority of screens are better than mine I'll definitely be trying to get a replacement as this is bothering me.
I just installed Lux to resolve my backlight issue and its settings menu background fades nearly entirely to black at the bottom.
*Edit: So far it sounds like this is an anomaly. You would expect places like Anandtech to report on it if they'd seen that amount of variation. I'm going to have a good time trying to convince someone at BB that this is a real defect though.
Erica Griffin talks about this issue in her Note 4 review, around the 20 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OyNWrQJzMY
I got a replacement and it's perfect. No pink tint.
So, if you have the tint return it. Not all Note 4s are like that.
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Erica Griffin talks about this issue in her Note 4 review, around the 20 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OyNWrQJzMY
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Thanks, that was quite helpful. I think in general it's easier to trust reviews on retail-purchased devices over mainstream reviews with PR department selected units.
I went to BB today and looked at the display units. All perfect, but then that's not surprising (every company gives their display/review units a second QC pass, even Apple). I'll probably head to the only BB in the area that has units tomorrow and see if I can do an exchange. As long as they don't make me sign one of those "no more returns" agreements I've heard about I'm willing to take another shot in the display lottery.
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I got a replacement and it's perfect. No pink tint.
So, if you have the tint return it. Not all Note 4s are like that.
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Good to hear! I'll post my results after my exchange attempt tomorrow. Aside from the gradient I am impressed with the display. Not as bright as LCD in daylight, but I was drawing on a black BG last night and noticed that it has deeper blacks than my Pioneer plasma.
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Good to hear! I'll post my results after my exchange attempt tomorrow. Aside from the gradient I am impressed with the display. Not as bright as LCD in daylight, but I was drawing on a black BG last night and noticed that it has deeper blacks than my Pioneer plasma.
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Fingers crossed for you to get a nice one like mine.
Yeah, the blacks and colors are amazing on the Note 4. The whites are not as bright as the iPhone 6+, but they are fine and way better than whites on my Note 2. In all other respects the Note 4 screen is overall better than even iPhone 6+'s excellent LCD.
One minor disappointment is the very high resolution has made some emulators dog slow as they attempt to render at full resolution, i.e. PPSSPP and ePSXe using ogle renderer. Hoping the devs find a workaround, maybe rendering at half or quarter rest instead - that would still be higher rest than my Note 2 at full rest. :laugh:
What's the color of your device? Anyone have this problem in the white version?
my note 4 has pink tint
I have the same problem on my Verizon white note 4 but on top half of display. Replacement should arrive by Friday :/
You can replicate this by looking at the screen at an extreme angle, obviously the ones that see green and purple straight on are screen defects.
I have a white version and whites are perfect and too bright at high setting. I keep mine half way. The whites are better IMHO than the iphones. The colors more vibrant and, the sharpness is ridiculously sharp. I dont see how they can improve it. I only thing there should be a waynto adjust the color saturation, because basic mode doesnt do much on mine.
My Note 4 has the same issue. It almost looks like the while balance differs from top to bottom, but it is really the brightness that is different.
This is a photo of my Note 4 showing a solid colored image at #030303 (very close to black). It shows how different the pixels in the bottom and in the top emit light.
Image can be seen at 1x.com/tmp/uniformity_note4.jpg
Looks like crap.
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I though i had ocd with phones but that just doesnt bother me in the slightest. Cant really tell unless you force yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56562683
similar problem
I have a similar issue, though mine is brighter on the right side than it is on the left. Very noticeable with dark background in lower light situations as someone else mentioned.