I see lots of posts around the Interwebs complaining about battery life on smartphones (specifically Android ones, since I don't hang out on sites that are aligned with evil Apple), so I decided to consolidate my knowledge for people with Slide's to improve their battery life.
DISPLAY
This uses about 80% of the power according to battery use on auto-brightness. On a bright day I can read the screen at about 1/5 position on the brightness bar which cuts down heavily on the battery use.
There's not much else we can do to cut down on screen power usage, so moving on.
CPU
This one requires SetCPU, I strongly urge you to buy it from the Market (it's just a few bucks IIRC) and supports the AWESOME dev. If you're cheap just go download it from that link.
Once you have it you'll want to set up profiles! So click profiles, check the box next to the Sleep profile and choose 480,000/480,000 with ondemand scaler! I have no idea if it actually changes anything but the placebo effect is nice. Next back out of that and set the CPU governor to performance. What this does is clock the CPU to 600mhz constantly instead of scaling between 480mhz and 600mhz as the additional power is needed. It cuts down on choppiness while barely increasing the amount of battery required (in my experience the Slide tends to jump up to 600mhz when I'm not doing anything anyway).
Sync
Turn auto-sync off or set the sync intervals to the highest number possible (once a day I believe). It takes power and most of the time doesn't download anything important. If you really need some data just go and hit Sync Now and, well, it syncs.
Autostarts
There is this nifty little paid application in the market (costs like $1.25 or something) that you absolutely need: Autostarts
Basically applications launch when triggers are triggered, alot of these are pointless and just take up RAM and power.
These are what I have disabled:
After Startup
{Any 3rd party apps that aren't widgets}
Calendar Storage
Download Manager
Voice Dialer (unless you, yaknow, use it)
Maps
Mail
Calendar
HTC Media Uploader
My Account (unless you like the power alerts that take up power!)
Connectivity Changed
Download Manager
My Uploads
HTC Media Uploader
Genius Button
Media Mounted
My Uploads
Application Installed
Voice Dialer (wtf?)
Pico TTS (sem-wtf?)
Application Removed
Voice Dialer
Application Replaced
Maps (lolwut?)
Autokiller
There's an app called Autokiller, it changes the internal task killer's settings as to when to tell an app to shutdown (at stock settings this is almost never).
I use the moderate preset, but you may want to increase it if you never want to have to manually kill a task. Note that this method tells apps to cleanly shut down so data is saved (such as the page you are on in the Browser)
Additional Settings
In Mobile Networks set to GSM only (no 3G)
Turn GPS and WiFi off when not in use
Turn always on data off
Use a silent or vibrate alert method instead of sound alerts
Turn off your screen whenever you can
If you flashed ENG-BUILD flash the updated RADIO!!!!!!!
Protips
Do several battery cycles every 6 weeks (Charge to 100%, discharge to 0%, charge 2 hours past green LED while phone is off)
Espresso is heavy duty stuff, use a non-sense ROM for additional speed
Charging via USB takes significantly longer than charging via AV
Live Wallpapers will use lots of battery
Use wallpapers formatted at 480x320
Limit the amount of widgets you have to around 5 (unless they are from the same app, like Beautiful Widgets) they constantly refresh and do their thing in the background
I learned most of this thanks to enatefox's guide which I modified to suit the Slide, a coffee fueled mind, and general observations. If you have anything to contribute please let me know and I'll add it!
check general, few threads there on this .. it seems the development section is the hot spot around here..
an APN widget will do wonders, or even juicedefender.
i disable APN until I need it. screen is about 30% always. after everything i do i lock the screen.
on a normal days use (1-2hr phone calls, 30-50min of browsing the net, a ton of text messaging, and streaming slingbox) I'll have about 60% battery by 10pm.
great guide. thank you.
does autostart continually kill those processes? I ask because that long list of bloatware you listed is what is irritating me on my slide and even when I force kill them all they restart themselves every 5 minutes. I have taskilller set to kill them and they come back like the herp constantly.
skullkandy said:
great guide. thank you.
does autostart continually kill those processes? I ask because that long list of bloatware you listed is what is irritating me on my slide and even when I force kill them all they restart themselves every 5 minutes. I have taskilller set to kill them and they come back like the herp constantly.
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Autostarts does not 'kill' processes, it disables them from running when certain triggers are triggered.
For example if SpywareApplicationOVER9000 runs everytime an application is installed, and you disable it in Autostarts, then it will not run when an application is uninstalled
ArizonaDomer said:
an APN widget will do wonders, or even juicedefender.
i disable APN until I need it. screen is about 30% always. after everything i do i lock the screen.
on a normal days use (1-2hr phone calls, 30-50min of browsing the net, a ton of text messaging, and streaming slingbox) I'll have about 60% battery by 10pm.
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Can you write up a quick how to for Juicedefender?
Battery Save Like RandomKing
I find myself regularly repeating many of these suggestions on many threads to many different people on how to extend your battery life. When not in use, my phone loses at most only 1-2% battery per hour! So I'm making one thread in the Epic forums dedicated to maximizing battery life while trying to explain why these steps will work. Some battery improvements come at the cost of performance or lack of certain services. This must be distinctly understood, or nothing wonderful can come of these steps.
Step 1: Brightness & Battery
Let's face it. Our Android phone screens are huge. This feature is the largest, and completely unavoidable battery-drain. The only way to limit it is to not use the screen... ergo... not use your phone. But that clearly makes no sense, so how to limit that drain? Well, a good step is to turn down your screen's brightness to the lowest you can read clearly, don't hurt your eyes! For night-time use, there's an app that can turn the brightness down even lower called Screen Filter(Thanks to iModMM for the find!). Also, choose a nice dark background, something in the black color range. For all phones, the darker the color, the less brightness used, less power consumed! But for our Epic's Super Amoled screen, specifically, a black pixel is technically an "off" pixel. That's right, every black pixel on your screen is a part of your screen not being powered, since the Super Amoled does not need backlighting. Blackle is also a good alternative to the standard Google site for a black themed search engine, though it doesn't seem to be mobile optimized. Also, lock your screen with that nice little button on the top right side of your phone. Don't wait for it to lock itself! As far as the battery itself goes, charging to 100% can be tricky. The moment that led turns blue, your phone has generally reached 100%, but it will generally trickle charge between 97 and 100 after that. A good way to charge to 100 percent is to use an external charger, which generally come with 1 or 2 spare batteries for about $20. This way, the moment your battery dies, shut down, and pop a fresh one in.
Step 2: Using a Custom Rom
At this point, there are many Epic 4G custom roms out, and if you're in this forum, you've likely rooted or are trying to root. Well I will not go into rooting directions here. Take a look at one and see how it fare's out-of-the-box for you. If you choose to use my customized rom, you will find a task manager with a preset ignore list, ready to use as a one-tap app-closing widget; as well as the service-freezing patch mentioned below in Step 8 ready for execution through a terminal, and my entire setup(among many other mods, apps, and tweaks tested for the greatest battery performance). These are just roms I've used myself to great results. Many others exist. Updated 7/6:
RandomKing's Customized Rom
2.2.1 EC05 v.1 Plus [Journaled w/Genocide 1.0] [Screenshots]
SyndicateFrozen Rom
2.2.1 EC05 v.1.2
Bonsai Rom
2.2.1 EC05 v.4.1.1 Not Supported on XDA. Sorry.
Midnight Rom
2.2.1 EC05 v.5.3
Step 3: Disable Unnecessary Services
First and foremost, disable all location services, wifi and gps based. This will affect certain apps like weather apps, you'll simply have to deal with static locations. Next, disable data sync. Contacts will not synchronize with Gmail while this is off. You will have to enable it sporadically. The Gmail app also will not function while this is off, I recommend using the email app and simply adjusting the refresh interval. You can always manually check your own email . Likewise, you may put your phone into airplane mode altogether if you don't plan to use it for an extended period of time, such as school, work, swim meet, movies, or on an airplane.
Step 4: Task Killers and JuiceDefender
First, let's get JuiceDefender out of the way. It's a neat app, and in certain ways, effective. However, it's own effectiveness comes with certain contradictions. It disables nearly all signals, which will include, for example, Google Voice. In my experience, this app hindered certain other services, and if anything may have drawn further on my battery. My recommendation is to stay away from it. Now onto Task Killers, they are good, and they are evil. Let me explain. Many of us may find issues closing all the apps we open, and sometimes forget we left something open. A task killer can easily ensure that you've closed all of your programs. Now onto the bad. Task killers can try to kill certain system services. This is generally BAD. Certain services shouldn't be killed, and others can't be killed, and the ongoing battle only further drains your battery while trying to kill services that AREN'T actually bad. So on that note, the worst part of task killers is AUTO-KILL. Disable it! Kill it! Kill it with FIRE! I use Advanced or Adao Task Killer, with no auto-kill. It is one of the only widgets I use, and I simply tap it before I lock my phone each time.
Step 5: Widgets
If you don't need them, don't use them. Almost all widgets make continuous unnecessary calls to the Android system, and this can be a huge battery draw. Even simple widgets. Through all my testing, there's only 2 widgets I have approved thus far: Advanced Task Killer, Power Control. Other disapproved widgets: Pandora, Winamp, Weather(ALL OF THEM), etc.
Step 6: SetCpu, Voltage Control, and Over/Underclocking
As with much of this thread, this is opinionated and empirical theories. Through my testing, Overclocking is unnecessary, and guaranteed to draw on the battery. Most of these roms come from fantastic devs and are, by default, blazingly fast. Overclocking is completely redundant in my opinion, and I'm generally all about speed. Underclocking/undervolting may preserve more battery, but my opinion on the matter is similar to my feeling on widgets. If you don't need it, don't do it. If you feel the need to use these apps, a generally accepted setting for battery preservation is to undervolt to 800 max. and 100 min. (if your phone can handle it, some may experience wake-locks, raise min. to 200) on conservative governor, adjusting your profiles for when the phone is locked, unlocked and etc.
Step 7: Unnecessary Apps
Free apps are great, aren't they? But how many have you gathered, just because they're free? Now how many of those don't you use, but regularly draw on your phone regardless. There's an easy way to roughly check. Open your settings. Now go to Applications. Manage Applications. Take a look at which are running that you have not opened. Using a task killer prior, and waiting a couple minutes to see what re-opens may be a good way to check which apps are continuously running in the background and evaluate if they can be removed.
Facebook --- Notorious for running in the background. Disabling notifications may help.
Latitude --- Largest offender of location service usage. Neat app. Huge battery hog.
QIK/Fring --- Any video chatter really. If you don't use them, remove or disable them.
Browser --- Large ram usage. Try Dolphin Mini or Miren.
Step 8: Freeze Services
Using Titanium Backup Pro, MyBackup Pro, or Bloat Freezer (yes, non-free apps) freeze any of the following services:
sns --- (Will disable sns)
snsaccount --- (Will disable Facebook contact integration)
drm --- (May affect media programs like mediahub)
drmcontent --- (May affect media programs like mediahub)
systemupdater --- (Best disabled if on custom rom)
Enter the following commands into the Android Terminal to manually freeze the above services:
Code:
su
pm disable com.sec.android.providers.drm
pm disable com.sec.android.app.sns
pm disable com.samsung
Simply enter the previous commands into the Android Terminal while substituting "enable" for "disable" to manually defrost these.
If you would like a shortcut for this method, check out the patch in This Thread Also Included In RandomKing's Rom..
Step 9: Journaling
Journaling... some love it, some hate it. The fact remains, journaling enables extra write cycles. While this will prevent data loss, it also means more cpu usage. It follows that battery should last longer with journaling disabled. You can use chris41g's mod HERE to turn Journaling on/off at will.
Step 10: Turn it Off and Spend Time With Loved Ones
That's right. You're obsessing with your phone. Leave it be. Do something meaningful and memorable. Have fun with life! This is just a phone.
More coming as it comes to me! Including mods, apps, etc. aimed at improving battery life. Feel free to leave your own suggestions or questions! If this guide and it's features have helped you in anyway, leave THANKS so I know whether or not to keep up on it!
Y is this in q&a?
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App
Because its an answer to many questions posted here.
-Sent from my Random Epic.
many good suggestions here RandomKing.
this stuff is all so useful to us newer users out here, maybe this should be stickied (either here or in general).
jarcher1971 said:
many good suggestions here RandomKing.
this stuff is all so useful to us newer users out here, maybe this should be stickied (either here or in general).
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Thanks! I have no control over where this belongs, I just know its an answer to many questions and would be noticed here.
-Sent from my Random Epic.
has anyone noticed an effect on the phone's ability to sleep when you manually reorder the apps alphabetically in the app drawer? I kept having problems and factory reset 2x. Now I did find 3 troublesome apps that although not apparently running in the background, kept my phone from sleeping simply by being installed. I also stopped ordering my apps, deleted the troublesome apps and now it seems my phone is working correctly. I wonder if that (editing the default order) could also prevent the phone from sleeping? Any thoughts?
rando991 said:
has anyone noticed an effect on the phone's ability to sleep when you manually reorder the apps alphabetically in the app drawer? I kept having problems and factory reset 2x. Now I did find 3 troublesome apps that although not apparently running in the background, kept my phone from sleeping simply by being installed. I also stopped ordering my apps, deleted the troublesome apps and now it seems my phone is working correctly. I wonder if that (editing the default order) could also prevent the phone from sleeping? Any thoughts?
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Can't say I've noticed this, but I've been on launcherpro for quite some time now. Perhaps you could share more details on your setup?
-Sent from my Random Epic.
I'm non rooted stock EC05. I used to use EDIT in the app drawer to rearrange my apps in alphabetical order (they don't arrange themselves automatically this way after rebooting). I had noticed in spare parts that my phone was never sleeping and killing my battery. I did a factory reset and it worked as advertised. I slowly added apps back until I found two that seem to prevent my phone from sleeping so I uninstalled them. Phone worked fine for a while but then started acting up again. I repeated the procedure, leaving only the apps my wife's phone had (hers always sleeps like a baby), but then my phone started up again. Tried another reset but this time decided to leave the apps in the order they put themselves and so far so good...wondering if that was doing something or if it is an app update that goes bonkers?
rando991 said:
I'm non rooted stock EC05. I used to use EDIT in the app drawer to rearrange my apps in alphabetical order (they don't arrange themselves automatically this way after rebooting). I had noticed in spare parts that my phone was never sleeping and killing my battery. I did a factory reset and it worked as advertised. I slowly added apps back until I found two that seem to prevent my phone from sleeping so I uninstalled them. Phone worked fine for a while but then started acting up again. I repeated the procedure, leaving only the apps my wife's phone had (hers always sleeps like a baby), but then my phone started up again. Tried another reset but this time decided to leave the apps in the order they put themselves and so far so good...wondering if that was doing something or if it is an app update that goes bonkers?
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Hmm. If you can't narrow it down to a certain app, I'm not totally sure what it could be. Have you tried clearing the data/cache of Twlauncher? You could try a launcher like LauncherPro, you don't have to be rooted to use a different one.
No but if the problem comes back up I will try some of those...these are the 3 apps that when loaded caused problems: NIV Bible, Document Scanner, [I now have relacement apps for each of these now] and most recently Espn Score Center, but my wife had all of thse but the doc scanner and had no problems
i would check in spare parts to see which apps may be holding a partial wake lock. for me the facebook app was not letting my phone sleep until i disable all of its notifications.
jarcher1971 said:
i would check in spare parts to see which apps may be holding a partial wake lock. for me the facebook app was not letting my phone sleep until i disable all of its notifications.
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Likewise. This is why I removed facebook altogether. The new mobile site has proven to be pretty useful now.
-Sent from my Random Epic.
Yeah I found the same thing...but I would log out of Facebook too. Also the problem reappeared after a factory reset and I had not gone into Facebook. Are you saying that even if you don't log in, it can stop your phone from sleeping? My phone started doing it again a few days ago for no apparent reason, and I was able to stop that behavior by: finding and moving 2 apps from the phone to SD card (I thought I had gotten all of them), clearing any cache from different apps, and rebooting.
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i would check in spare parts to see which apps may be holding a partial wake lock. for me the facebook app was not letting my phone sleep until i disable all of its notifications.
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That wouldn't tell me anything when I had the problem. The only thing was Android System....and....the phone wouldn't sleep even if in airplane mode! Which meant it had to be a process or app doing it all the time. I had never thought to clear cache, but I wonder why doing that works? Also there's a menu option in Spare Parts about Button Behavior which leads you to believe you can make the phone sleep but the menu says "only available in Ver 1.5". I've checked the market and can't find a ver 1.5 Spare Parts...
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That wouldn't tell me anything when I had the problem. The only thing was Android System....and....the phone wouldn't sleep even if in airplane mode! Which meant it had to be a process or app doing it all the time. I had never thought to clear cache, but I wonder why doing that works? Also there's a menu option in Spare Parts about Button Behavior which leads you to believe you can make the phone sleep but the menu says "only available in Ver 1.5". I've checked the market and can't find a ver 1.5 Spare Parts...
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I believe it means android 1.5, because that says "End Button Behavior", and no new phones have Call and End buttons on them. Because the "Fancy Screen Rotation" says 1.5 only also.
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RandomKing said:
Step 6: Unnecessary Apps[/CENTER]
Free apps are great, aren't they? But how many have you gathered, just because they're free? Now how many of those don't you use, but regularly draw on your phone regardless. There's an easy way to roughly check. Open your settings. Now go to Applications. Manage Applications. Take a look at which are running that you have not opened. Using a task killer prior, and waiting a couple minutes to see what re-opens may be a good way to check which apps are continuously running in the background and evaluate if they can be removed.
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I think you mean "Now go to Applications. Running Services." Going to Manage Applications will show all non-system applications and not tell you what is currently running, AFAICT.
Or am I mistaken?
Thanks for this thread.
prodigyplace said:
I think you mean "Now go to Applications. Running Services." Going to Manage Applications will show all non-system applications and not tell you what is currently running, AFAICT.
Or am I mistaken?
Thanks for this thread.
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No, there is a "Running" tab inside Manage Applications. An app doesn't have to have a service to be running.
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zanderman112 said:
No, there is a "Running" tab inside Manage Applications. An app doesn't have to have a service to be running.
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Thanks for clarifying, Zanderman. Somehow I never noticed that tab before.
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That wouldn't tell me anything when I had the problem. The only thing was Android System....and....the phone wouldn't sleep even if in airplane mode! Which meant it had to be a process or app doing it all the time. I had never thought to clear cache, but I wonder why doing that works? Also there's a menu option in Spare Parts about Button Behavior which leads you to believe you can make the phone sleep but the menu says "only available in Ver 1.5". I've checked the market and can't find a ver 1.5 Spare Parts...
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Sounds to me like a system process may be the cause rather than any particular application. For me also I had issues early on with the SNS service forcing itself to restart continually and being a battery drain. It usually takes a force stop on that service followed by clearing data in the sns app and rebooting to fix. Don't know if that will work for you, but hope it helps.
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My tips you can add:
1. I always, no matter what, always have brightness on lowest setting! If you have a hard time seeing in sun, than do auto, but turn off when don't need to, I have on low 24/7. Then at night, I have this app called screen filter which lets you lower brightness then default setting(good on eyes).
2. I always have auto-sync off. If you want emails etc. configure with ur preferences. And most of the time background data. But with background data off, you don't have access to market and have to enable for use. Don't get notifications. Lately, haven't been getting WhatsApp messages. This is optional.
3. In wifi settings, network notification turned off. Haptic feedback and all vibration disabled. Sounds on key clicks or anything disabled. Auto rotate screen off. No window animations. Screen timeout, 15 seconds. Keyboard timeout, 3 seconds. In location, use wireless networks and gps satellites unchecked.
4. No live wallpaper! No bright colors! I use a black background for wallpaper!! Try to go a little dark, not bright, stay away from white! Id recommened, the full black wallpaper. Also on ur homescreen, avoid widgets! Especially ones that use live web feed like, facebook, scorecenter. These are battery suckers!
5. I delete all apps I do not use! Stock and user. Download titanium backup to fix this issue. I freeze, system updates, swype, drm content, drm content launcher, sns, snsaccount. I uninstall the stock browser, use dolphin!! I also uninstall, all sprint bloatware, my files, gmail, email, talk, news and weather. Uninstall all stock and user apps you don't use! Check spare parts to see what runs in the background that you don't use. Another thing to add, I uninstall swype and android keyboard and use better keyboard gingebread edition 8.
6. Disable refresh interval in facebook, do it manually when you are going to use it!
7. Use setcpu. Undervolt to 800max and 100min on conservative governor. Set profiles, when phone is locked and etc.
8. Now lets talk about juicedefender and task killers. Juice defender will work and is a good app! BUT: if ur a person like me, I text a lot in whatsapp and when u lock screen it disables data, so u wont get texts. Download it, take a look at it, try it out. I recommend using agressive mode. Now lets talk about task killers. Personally, I think they dont work at all, and actually waste battery then save it. I just would say don't use one, and use samsungs stock task killer(actually works!)
9. Use a custom rom and kernel. Always be up to date on updates. I usually use, SRF and midNight. All about preference.
10. Extended battery FTW!!! Buy a seidio extened battery! May cost some money, but will greatly increase battery!!! Or get a cheap asian knockoff on ebay.
11. Disable data and put phone into airplane mode when it wont be in use for a period of time. Like at school or work. I usually keep data off during school. You will see a difference with data on and off.
12. Always keep wifi, bluetooth, gps, 4g off when not in use. They will drain battery crazy!!! Wifi will search for networks constantly, same basic thing with gps and bluetooth.
13. Also do full charges!! At night shut off phone and let it charge for a good 8 hours. Then in morning, turn on still plugged in. The charging indicator will be red, leave it alone till its blue. Go get dressed and eat some breakfast lol. Then when you come back it should be blue. And when on boot, let it finish media scanning, don't interrupt it!!
I can guarentee if you follow my tips, you will see a significant increase in battery life!
These are my tips!! I will add more if I can remember some more!
Typed this all on my Epic!!
I've lately got into developing mobile apps and even though i've promoted this as beta, people seem to be using it, but nobody's reporting back! - same goes for all of my apps, i don't get it...
Anyway, i need real feedback and I was wondering if any folks here with a rooted android could help test this app out, it was made on Kitkat, so while yes, it works fine for me, it may not for you... I've had one feedback comment saying that his modem data was not switching off on lollipop, so i added support for that now allowing him or her to use the app as intended, but after replying via the playstore, nothing was heard of him since... almost suspicious lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpsPnMRO86w
Find it on Android's Playstore... Craig's Battery Saver ROOT
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=saver.battery.craigs.craigsbatterysaver :good:
How it works..... read on
How it works, if you're interested!
2 things use up battery power
1. apps that are CPU intensive, eg constantly repeating to connect (this would only happen under malware, as most apps would never do this, it would see the socket it closed/dead and stop and wait until user input, malware would constantly reconnect.. but 99/100 apps will just stop and then do nothing meaning all genuine apps should 'idle' not really using up cpu time....
2. Hardware services, bluetooth, mobile data, wifi, gps, these services are all hardware, so your cpu will switch on each of these services and each one has a significant drain on your battery, go bed at 11pm, by 9am it may have drained 30 - 40% or more... with this app, it will have drained under 1 - 3% depending on your battery (tablets for example should run for days with this app if rooted)
So this app does 2, it first remembers which hardware was on before the screen goes off, so no confusing switch wifi on when wifi's already on (as i've seen on other apps?!) reason why i wrote this because all the other apps i came across sucked really, almost but not quite etc etc..
With this tool, if you're a light user you could quite easily see 60% battery improvement! the bonus side affect of this app is also interesting, for 1, it charges quicker! if you accidentally fall asleep, it will conserve as much power as possible, obviously sms,telephone/mobile network is still running in the background so you can't completely stop a device from draining...
the other bonus side affect was, it kills dead all facebook notifications, twitter, well it would as it disables wifi, modem. 3g, bt when the screen goes off! :good:
1 more feature, if you drop your phone? then what?... take where's my droid, i sms it asking for location... it replies "GPS OFF" and "modem off" simple, send the text message to your phone with "on" without the " " around on, and the app will disable itself so it does not switch off the services and then at the same time it enables Wifi, Modem Data, Gps, Bt pretty useful huh... then on where's my droid, you'll get GPS combined with AGPS data from mobile data giving you pin point accuracy, as soon as you get the data of where it is... type in
off (to turn this feature off) or
on (to turn on all your services)
It also disables itself taking calls...
It has a smart check feature too, let's say after you switch the screen on and for some reason wifi failed to switch on ? after 3 seconds it will then check again to see if wifi is indeed on... if it's not on, it attempts to switch it on again...
Feedback is greatly appreciated so i can support a larger range of devices.... thank you for reading! (Suggestions, welcome!)
So basically what your device is and what's not working (along with build version, lollipop/kitkat etc) and i'll see if i can find a way to add it in to support your droid! - one more thing, i've been releasing updates like a crazy woman collecting cats lately and even though it does all this it's only supporting "Extreme power saving option" come tuesday i hope to have that sorted out so that every few minutes it can wake up to check for twitter/facebook messages for all of those who hate the sound of a phone being blissful quiet
if you're rooted and it does not look like that in the video [top of screen] (not the interface, but the services, i've already updated the UI)
anyway, help me to make it better for you...
One more thing, there are no push notifications, no popup adds, no huge banners, all my apps have one tiny advert to help support the countless hours of programming i'm putting into this apps, with each upgrade i aim to make them more stable and more usable, and i really need peoples help and support even if that is criticism - it's "beta" but i'm almost ready to bring it out after i add the wake up services....
Nobody has a rooted device?
Unlike other battery savers... it really does work
I have been using the phone for about a week, running the latest version. I have noticed a lot of times I am not receiving notifications properly or consistently. My phone is pretty notification busy, so I notice when I'm missing things.
I came from a Nexus 5 phone running Lollipop, so this is my first experience with Marshmallow. I have a feeling these notification issues are due to the new power saving / deep sleep features in 6.0.
Here are the issues I've noticed so far.
- Hangounts : received notification for hangout message (not sms), opened app and it said "received 10 minutes ago". Phone was in my pocket, hadn't looked at it for a few hours.
- Ebay : no outbid notification, was outbid overnight when my phone was not plugged in and left on my desk.
- Life360 : Was not showing up on the map for location tracking when checking from another device. I opened the app on my phone and it reconnected. This happens consistently.
- Sleep Cycle: Alarm does not go off if the phone is not plugged in to a power source. When I unlock the phone in the morning, the alarm starts ringing (even though it's late).
- BaconReader : No message notifications until I open the app, or late notifications (delayed over an hour).
- CSipSimple : SMS messages are not received when phone is left overnight (this is a IP phone with SMS messaging through an SIP provider, all data related).
Email seems consistently good, which is nice. Social media apps I haven't noticed an issue yet, but I'm not really busy using those.
I tried re-installing some apps. I've also tried setting the app notification settings under app settings such as "Treat as priority", "Allow peeking", and "Wake".
Any one else? Any recommendations?
I searched and found:
Email notifications and touch screen problems after Dec update.
Missing SMS Notifications
have you restored some of those apps from a backup of your old phone? if yes, consider a fresh install of those.
else, try turning off doze for those troublemakers, maybe restart your phone, and see what happens during an appropriate amount of time. do this by going to settings -> battery -> top right corner menu -> optimisation.
I did restore the apps from backup. Some that were causing issue I did uninstall and reinstall, configure form scratch, no help.
I'll try turning off battery optimization for some of the apps and see if that helps. Thanks for the tip.
Those are all side effects of Doze - in some cases (Sleep Cycle) it sounds like the it hasn't been updated to use the API23 AlarmManager calls that should work with Doze. Hangouts should have worked - I'd be surprised if its not using Google Cloud Messaging which is Doze exempt.
Exempting apps from battery optimisation doesn't fully exempt them from all Doze restrictions but it's worth a try as it might help. It does allow apps to keep network connectivity which is likely key for Life360, Ebay and CSipSimple.
I would contact the Devs of all the apps to alert them their app isn't working properly on Marshmallow
Exempting Sleep Cycle in the battery saver allowed the alarm to work when I didn't have it plugged into a charger. I'll email the developer.
I've added exemptions to the battery saver for all apps that I use where I would never want them to decide to go to sleep. Everything seems better now, I haven't noticed any missed notifications since.
I hope hangouts was a fluke, I would also agree it should work properly...
I'm currently on stock MM vs985 and am curious to know a little more about how Doze is supposed to work by default. I get the concept, some apps will spam you with notifications and drain your battery in the process, so those are kind of put on hold while others are "priority" notifications and get delivered immediately. The user also has the option to give specific exclusions from Doze so the notifications will get delivered immediately as they have in the past. At least this is my understanding of things.
The reason I ask is because Gmail notifications aren't quite right. When I'm actively using my phone in the morning, they seem to come in normally and Doze doesn't seem to be active (which is expected). Then when I go to work Doze will kick in and I notice I don't get as many Gmail notifications, which is fine. However on breaks or over lunch, I actively use my phone again. At this point I would expect Doze to no longer be active and I would think the notifications that Doze delayed would start showing up (granted maybe after some delay, but at some point over an hour lunch break). Today after work I didn't have any Gmail notifications so I opened Gmail, it showed the most recent email as one from around 11:00, I swiped down to refresh, and suddenly five more emails showed up (11:38, 12:01, 1:01, 2:59, and 5:40). With that many emails at those different times, I would have thought notifications would have came in at some point without me manually refreshing my emails.
I realize I could exclude Gmail from Doze, but I don't really need the notifications immediately and I would like to get the battery saving benefits of Doze, I just don't get what it's doing or why. I would assume Doze would DELAY notifications until later so they can be processed as one group/batch, not STOP them completely. Is this correct, is there possibly a setting or something I should be looking at?
akksnv said:
I'm currently on stock MM vs985 and am curious to know a little more about how Doze is supposed to work by default. I get the concept, some apps will spam you with notifications and drain your battery in the process, so those are kind of put on hold while others are "priority" notifications and get delivered immediately. The user also has the option to give specific exclusions from Doze so the notifications will get delivered immediately as they have in the past. At least this is my understanding of things.
The reason I ask is because Gmail notifications aren't quite right. When I'm actively using my phone in the morning, they seem to come in normally and Doze doesn't seem to be active (which is expected). Then when I go to work Doze will kick in and I notice I don't get as many Gmail notifications, which is fine. However on breaks or over lunch, I actively use my phone again. At this point I would expect Doze to no longer be active and I would think the notifications that Doze delayed would start showing up (granted maybe after some delay, but at some point over an hour lunch break). Today after work I didn't have any Gmail notifications so I opened Gmail, it showed the most recent email as one from around 11:00, I swiped down to refresh, and suddenly five more emails showed up (11:38, 12:01, 1:01, 2:59, and 5:40). With that many emails at those different times, I would have thought notifications would have came in at some point without me manually refreshing my emails.
I realize I could exclude Gmail from Doze, but I don't really need the notifications immediately and I would like to get the battery saving benefits of Doze, I just don't get what it's doing or why. I would assume Doze would DELAY notifications until later so they can be processed as one group/batch, not STOP them completely. Is this correct, is there possibly a setting or something I should be looking at?
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don't want to sound stupid but do you have greenify installed? Do you have sync turned on?
No greenify or any other non-stock battery saving apps, and yes sync is on. Lunch break and no notifications but I bet when I manually refresh in gmail later I'll have emails that should be coming in now :/
49 hours estimated time remaining for my battery, so it's definitely saving battery, but I'd kind of like notifications when I am using my phone :/
Break time at work, still no gmail notifications. One thing that I realized was that I did have a notification from Facebook just now. Does this indicate that either the Facebook notification has bypassed Doze (made itself priority) or gmail notifications specifically are being blocked by Doze?
Also, when I woke up this morning I did have gmail notifications waiting for me, so that means the normal sync process is capable of working correctly. I had my phone on the charger overnight, so Doze wouldn't have been active (which explains why the notification came through).
About 45 minutes ago I finally got gmail notifications for 6 new emails I got throughout the day. Not sure if it's relevant but this would have been about 10 minutes after I got home where I would have been back on wifi since this morning. I also noticed I have Facebook notifications, and the time on the notification is about two and a half hours ago, so I don't know why the gmail notifications wouldn't have came through at that time as well.
So with all of the knowledge and skills around here, no one has quite fully figured out the stock Doze functionality?
FWIW I don't seem to have this same issue on custom ROMs, at least not on Resurrection Remix.
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