I am new to experimenting with putting new ROMs on my Fire. I recently put on the CM10+3.x Kernel and also flashed gapps. When I booted my Fire, apps like Words with Friends needed to be reinstalled and I have one app (Draw Something) for which I could not remember the account information and all that so I was about to lose several long standing games in progress (150 drawings each, more or less).
So I'm wondering if it's necessary to flash gapps when installing new ROMs. I can reinstall a couple of apps I use all the time, but if I lose stuff every time I flash a ROM it's a bit inconvenient. Not terrible. But inconvenient.
I restored my backup because YES!, I actually backed up before flashing the new ROM, but it made me wonder what I lose by NOT flashing gapps if it is indeed not necessary to do that.
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Use titanium backup for your apps. It's an awesome app.
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This seems kinda dumb because everytime I flashed a new ROM before, I actually couldn't avoid the process. However now I can't get it at all.
So as we know, when you flash a new rom after wiping data or whatever, go through setup and whatnot, your phone then starts downloading the massive amounts of apps you had previously had installed. Lots of people hate it and want to avoid it, however I flash new stuff a lot and wipe data a lot. Ever since I got my GNexus, I can't get it to auto download the plethra of previously installed apps. It sucks, going through and downloading 50 different apps manually everytime I want to wipe data.
Any suggestions why it isn't detecting a new setup or whatever?
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This seems kinda dumb because everytime I flashed a new ROM before, I actually couldn't avoid the process. However now I can't get it at all.
So as we know, when you flash a new rom after wiping data or whatever, go through setup and whatnot, your phone then starts downloading the massive amounts of apps you had previously had installed. Lots of people hate it and want to avoid it, however I flash new stuff a lot and wipe data a lot. Ever since I got my GNexus, I can't get it to auto download the plethra of previously installed apps. It sucks, going through and downloading 50 different apps manually everytime I want to wipe data.
Any suggestions why it isn't detecting a new setup or whatever?
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I think it depends on the rom you are using. I didn't have it with Manhattans rom for example but everytime I wipe and install the AOKP rom which I use all the time it works fine.
I think it has something to do with whether or not the dev of the rom has included Google auto restore process. I could be wrong though. What I used to do was use app manager to back up or titanium beforehand although I do think the auto restore is a lot easier.
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I think it depends on the rom you are using. I didn't have it with Manhattans rom for example but everytime I wipe and install the AOKP rom which I use all the time it works fine.
I think it has something to do with whether or not the dev of the rom has included Google auto restore process. I could be wrong though. What I used to do was use app manager to back up or titanium beforehand although I do think the auto restore is a lot easier.
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From what you say, maybe more the GApps package I'm installing? I would think that would be part of it. Its just weird. Does this on both CM9 Kang and GummyNex, granted both use same gapps package (kejar31)
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A possible work around would be to use TiBU and select just the apps you want back, +/- their data.
(auto restore works on bigxsie's rom but I stop it and use TiBU because it's faster out here in rural Aus)
Hello everyone,
I have been rooting for a long time since I had a G1. I never understood clearly how to transfer apps without the need to manually install them. Does creating a partition in the SD card to ext3 or ext4 have some factor to it? I would simply follow directions but didn't understand the process. Whenever I installed a new ROM, sometimes all of the apps would be install automatically and some ROMS would require me to install them manually. I also got Titaniumbackup Pro also. Is that still a good app to use to back up these days? Is there a popular app to back up text messaging as well or does many of the
Lately, I have been trying to find a good rom to use after many crashes of Andromadus V13. I am using the latest Anrdomadus Mimicry now and its great. Though, I realized that I didn't transfer any of my apps. As I was rooting a few ROMS previous to it, some would install a majority of the apps and others would require me to install them myself. Im curious of why this is so.
the auto restore is a function of the market, I don't like this method and choose no when I sign in (don't like wasting time and slowing things down cause of all the data over network or wifi
titanium back is my personal favorite way to restore apps on a new rom, there are other apps that will do this (romtollbox etc) tb will do texts but I have had issues with it
I use sms backup + for that and connect it to my google account
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Apps are tied to your Google Play account and normally get automatically re-installed after you start your phone back up after a new ROM. Except, sometimes installing your ROM gives your phone a new "name" and Google Play doesn't know that it's the same phone (even though it's on the same account). So, if you go to Google Play on your computer, you would have more than one choice of phones to download apps to - your old phone name and your new phone name. And I've also had the occasional app out of many that just doesn't re-install for some reason.
Two words : Titanium Backup (though mainly only useful if you can restore your old rom, run a backup, then flash the new rom back).
While google can half-ass restore your downloads (settings may not always be intact), Titanium Backup will actually restore all your backed up apps along with their full settings/etc. It can also restore your rom's Android ID so that restored apps don't conflict.
But yea since you already have it, you should know least that much. Personally I have not found anything better than 4EXT Recovery and Titanium Backup Pro when it comes to backing up and restoring data.
ps: it can backup your SMS/Call Logs/Wifi Access points, etc to XML files on your SD card which can be re-imported later, just in case the SMS/Etc backups performed are not compatible with your new rom's apps.
So I have only a little experience flashing ROMs but I am successfully on CM 10.0 at the moment and everything is working great.
The question I have is, for those people that are constantly flashing new roms, is there a quick and easy way to re-install all your apps and settings without having to do it one by one with every new rom?
I know you can have your contacts/calendar and such in google and I know Titanium Backup is awesome but it gives the occasional mess up when trying to restore some programs to a rom other then the one it was backed up from.
Am I missing another process here that thousands of people do every day to get their phone/apps back into a useable working order after flashing?
I use titanium backup and have never had an issue. only use it to restore user apps and user data never system apps or data, that's where the issues usually come from.
Also use a custom launcher and most of them have backup/restore options that put your home screens back quickly.
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I have a GSM Nexus 4.1.1 rooted using my Mac and it's running the XenonHD rom. I rooted a while ago and do not really remember the nuances of it.
I would like to flash a new rom that includes the enhancements of 4.2 but obviously want to keep all my texts, music, programs, settings, etc. I have read around but need some definitive answers on steps to take to flash a new rom but keep my phone entirely intact. I also remember having problems with the google apps when I first rooted and flashed, and would love to avoid that.
Any advice would be appreciated, and my apologies if this appears to be redundant. I am just not very good with technology and would prefer to have all the facts pertinent to my situation beforehand. Thanks!
First of all - make a nandroid backup through your recovery menu. That way, if things go bad, you can flash your backup.
To backup messages, application data, programs etc, I'd recommend using Titanium Backup Pro. Its a few bucks but if you flash often, its money well spent for sure.
Remember though, that when you flash a new ROM, restoring all your apps and settings from a previous ROM can cause problems. I would recommend backing up messages and non-system application data only. You can restore apps through the play store and then use titanium backup to restore the data for the app.
Depending on the ROM you install - you may have to install the gapps separately. See the ROM thread for details on that.
Lastly, if going to a 4.2 ROM, make sure you have updated your recovery as there can be some SD card issues otherwise.
I posted something similar in the general questions subforum but of course there was no response.
I'm on stock rooted 4.3. If it matters, I ALWAYS get a message about gapps crashing.
Basically, I'm sick of ****Wiz and its continuous bulkiness and slowness. Tried a few ROMs, settled on PacMan. Trouble is there just seems to be NO way to restore my apps.
Titanium is no good because it breaks push notifications for any app that uses them - unacceptable.
The Play Store just refuses to act right. At first it wouldn't restore anything at all, then on one of my million flashes, I started restoring from Titanium one-by-one, then got even MORE frustrated and stopped. Now that list of about six apps is what the Play Store tries to "restore".
I've flashed and Nandroided back so many times because of this. And no matter HOW many times I manually sync, or how long I leave my phone on Wi-Fi to do it itself, when I flash it's those same six apps restoring.
Today I thought to make an update.zip in Titanium before flashing. Flashed the ROM, then Gapps. Tried the update.zip and it wouldn't work. Booted, then tried it. It worked, but didn't "reboot in 5 seconds"... had to battery pull after 10 minutes. Then the apps didn't have data. Titanium restored them and recommended a reboot. When I did that, the menu button no longer worked. At all.
I'm really ****ing sick of this. What am I supposed to do? If I have to stay on TouchWiz I'm getting rid of this phone. It's counterproductive at this point.
Are the custom ROMs based on the stock Samsung kernel? If not, that may be why your apps are crashing after being restored.
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Are the custom ROMs based on the stock Samsung kernel? If not, that may be why your apps are crashing after being restored.
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Well, they're not crashing. When I restore them with Titanium, everything works fine about them except push notifications and that just can't happen.
And the ROM I've chosen for now is PacMan. I don't think it is?