Hello all,
As many of you, I'm experimenting the annoying issue with dust over the screen of my HTC Desire.
I don't know why it is there, I can only report that the previous owner (I bought it used) broke the screen, and had it replaced it by a service company with an original one; maybe the company didn't seal it properly.
However, I have already unassembled and cleaned it one month ago, closed everything and now the dust is appearing again.
My idea now is to approach the problem in a much more drastic way.
I want to open again the phone, and to seal the digitizer to the chassis, and the screen to the digitizer, to avoid any dust there between.
I need an idea on which material/sealer/glue I could use, it should be soft enough to fill the gaps but not too much, to avoid to make it run where it should not...
Any idea on what could I use?
What about silicon glue? Is it too drastic?
Is there anybody that has already did it?
Ciao,
Giovanni
PS: I already searched; I only found posts reporting the problem, but no solution at all.
This is why I would try something new. And this is why I'm asking your help.
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Hi...I'm pretty sure this MIGHT have been asked, but the follow up question wasnt answered and..i cant remember where i found it...so bear (the polar kind, not the panda - they're not techincally a bear) with me.
i managed to completely smash the screen on the defy, it still works pretty fine and dandy, but those little chips of glass are beginning to fall out now and im a little worried its not exactly water proof anymore..(understatement, i know it cant be) so i was thinking of replacing the glass...
i have a couple of questions though...
firstly - can anyone recommend where i can get genuine parts
secondly - is it literally a case of using a prying tool to pry it off then put a new bit on (if it is, i can do that 'peasy)
third - do i need to glue it (im assuming this will become obvious) and what glue?
lastly, and most importantly - i watched a guide and it implied you shouldnt re-use the front casing - any reason? is it literally because of the water resistance or is there another reason?
many many thanks in advance for any help (just dont direct me ot the videos i saw about disassembling it completely, my mac couldnt load it for some reason!)
ps - sorry for being a complete noob.
last question, i impulsively bought one of these: 'Touch Screen Glass Digitizer For Motorola Defy' now im getting scared... is this the right thing to buy? i mean, it SOUNDS like it is, but im not so sure now ive parted ways with my money.
will this replace the glass bit that i cracked? or just the bit underneath which is fine?
please help!
Hello friend,Touch Screen Glass is the right thing you need to buy!
Congratulations on your first step
URL below maybe helpful for you.
http://bbs.gfan.com/viewthread.php?tid=1682374&page=1
It's in Chinese and if you don't know what's the meaning of the words,
Just follow the video and picture.
phew - thanks for that
:O)
Hi all. Quick searching leads me nowhere as there are thousands of problems concerning issues I'm NOT having. Sorry for the crappy 3ds camera pic, it's the only thing I have at my disposal right now besides the phone. As I said in the title, I'm not using a screen protector - this is a stock phone right out of the factory with no accessories, albeit aged a bit.
If you'll take a look, you'll see two screen bubbles. The huge funky-looking one at the top started out looking like the one at the bottom, and grew over a period of a few weeks. The bottom one started out really small and doubled in size to what it is now, but has since stopped.
It's really annoying and starting to bother me, but I was wondering if anyone had experienced similar issues, or has any input whether or not I can maybe fix this thing without having to get a whole new screen/digitizer/whatever. No replacement plans on this phone so gotta figure something else out. Any idea what's going on?
D-Lew said:
Hi all. Quick searching leads me nowhere as there are thousands of problems concerning issues I'm NOT having. Sorry for the crappy 3ds camera pic, it's the only thing I have at my disposal right now besides the phone. As I said in the title, I'm not using a screen protector - this is a stock phone right out of the factory with no accessories, albeit aged a bit.
If you'll take a look, you'll see two screen bubbles. The huge funky-looking one at the top started out looking like the one at the bottom, and grew over a period of a few weeks. The bottom one started out really small and doubled in size to what it is now, but has since stopped.
It's really annoying and starting to bother me, but I was wondering if anyone had experienced similar issues, or has any input whether or not I can maybe fix this thing without having to get a whole new screen/digitizer/whatever. No replacement plans on this phone so gotta figure something else out. Any idea what's going on?
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Is the plastic actually raised up? Can you see it when the screen is off? To me it looks like the digatizer may be going out, but its hard to tell from a pic.
It appears to be sealed and working fine... just has bubbles. I don't really know much about the insides of this phone, but it almost looks as if whatever is behind the digitizer is slightly warped and might be causing some contact with the glass or something like that. Reflections (off what is behind the screen - lcd? Not the reflections off the glass) tend to bend near the bubbles, whereas everywhere else behind the glass is pretty straight.
Essentially it just looks like water droplets or air bubbles forming on the inside surface of the glass, but it's never seen water before. I don't think the digitizer is failing.
Same problem, can I fix this myself?
Hi guys, I have the exact same problem on my HTC Desire. Touch is working fine, the pixels underneath are ok... yet this thing is expanding. What used to be 3 little bubbles near the very corner moved and turned into this amoeba looking thing after a few months.
Here are a few other shots.
Hope someone can let me know the possible verdict? Is it gone? Can it only be repaired by a professional or can I expect to be able to "clean up" the inside of the screen if I dismantle my phone as it is done here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566313
Maybe the liquids from the lcd are boiling from the heat? Sounds dumb but is a possibility
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Yikes. Mine is still having the same issues. I'm thinking about just tearing it down soon and figuring it out myself. A little nervous working on something with such small components. Any tips for a first teardown? I need to get a T6 torx and I've already looked at a couple disassembly guides, was a while ago though.
As far as I can tell, I will have to replace either the digitizer/glass or the LCD. If it's the latter I'll probably just upgrade the phone cause they seem pretty pricey.
Ok, I did what I said and investigated myself. Unfortunately, I broke my phone doing it.
The problem is the front glass/digitizer. I couldn't get the LCD off, but I pried it back enough to see bubbles through the glass looking from the inside.
I broke my LCD prying on it, now I have an ugly black spot. Guess I'll be buying an LCD and a digitizer now. Anybody have some spare ones, or know the cheapest place to get them?
D-Lew said:
Ok, I did what I said and investigated myself. Unfortunately, I broke my phone doing it.
The problem is the front glass/digitizer. I couldn't get the LCD off, but I pried it back enough to see bubbles through the glass looking from the inside.
I broke my LCD prying on it, now I have an ugly black spot. Guess I'll be buying an LCD and a digitizer now. Anybody have some spare ones, or know the cheapest place to get them?
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There are some digitizers on ebay for about $20 USD. i dont know about LCDs cause i never needed to replace mine but i would assume that they would be a little more expensive. Also, make sure you get the digitizer WITH the bezel because it will make your life a ton easier.
I'd better not touch it then
Sorry to hear about your LCD, D-Lew
Guess I wont be touching mine on my own. I'll definitely break it trying to do the same thing as you. I wonder if it's gonna break my phone if I just leave it as is. I mean, apart from the fact that it is there, it is not affecting the performance at all.
The bubble might get bigger. That's all you have to worry about.
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My play sometimes thinks its being touched when its not
so if I left the screen on it would start opening apps by itself
goes through my contacts and starts sending people gibberish lol
wondering if anyone els has had this problem?
and if its defiantly the digitizer or possibly the flex ribbon?
I intend to replace both at the same time
has anybody els replaced a digitizer?
where did you get it from?
would you recommend it?
how dose it hold up against scratches?
I attempted to clean my old x10 mini pros screen but when I closed it back up...
The screen lit up and stayed blank.... Do I face the same danger with the play?
Thanks in advance
Yup replaced mine after having the same symptoms. I got a kit from eBay with the digitizer, screen, and removal tool.
The process isn't complicated, but it's a pain in the ass to get the hinge working properly again.. took me a lot longer than it should have.
Hi Throbbin Wood,
Your thread has been moved from Xperia Play General to Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. PLease post in the correct sub-forum in future.
--wedgess
same here
Hello, I had same problem and I solved it easily, but I recomend you buying digitizer with a front cover, because unsticking old digitizer and then sticking new one may cause next problems, because if you did not do it right, rubbish can get under your digitizer and you have to disassemble your X-play again to clean it.
So buy a digitizer+front cover on ebay and good luck with repairing...
Hi, recently loud speaker on my n7100 died, then it worked again, then it died, then it worked again, then it died again and stop working completely. So I assumed that he might lose connection and I disassembled my phone. While I was doing that, I used thin plastic card to remove the frame around the screen and somehow I managed to push the card in between digitizer and glass of the screen :good: Damage is not that big but its strange looking and Il lose some money when i will selling the phone. So my question is
Q: Is there a way to fix slightly unglued screen and how?
Please dont give me advices like buy new screen ect., I only want to now is it possible to fix this in any way, maybe heat it with dryer or something similiar...Im not in opportunity to post picture of it right now, I will do it in next few hours.
Sorry for my english.
Thanks in advance!:cyclops:
P.S. loudspeaker is working again
simec2404 said:
Hi, recently loud speaker on my n7100 died, then it worked again, then it died, then it worked again, then it died again and stop working completely. So I assumed that he might lose connection and I disassembled my phone. While I was doing that, I used thin plastic card to remove the frame around the screen and somehow I managed to push the card in between digitizer and glass of the screen :good: Damage is not that big but its strange looking and Il lose some money when i will selling the phone. So my question is
Q: Is there a way to fix slightly unglued screen and how?
Please dont give me advices like buy new screen ect., I only want to now is it possible to fix this in any way, maybe heat it with dryer or something similiar...Im not in opportunity to post picture of it right now, I will do it in next few hours.
Sorry for my english.
Thanks in advance!:cyclops:
P.S. loudspeaker is working again
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Remove the glass with a heat gun, clean up and put stick it back with LOCA glue. A tricky operation that may do more harm than good. There are plenty of tutorial on how to do this as is is an cheap way to fix cracked screens ( ex : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_te_pTXJI ).
Maybe just heating it is enough, you may try it, just don't overdo it as too much heat (> 90°C) may damage your screen. An IR thermometer is recommended.
Today I finally decided to replace the broken screen on my Nexus 7. Everything went well and according to plan, and when turning on the device I noticed it was working fine. However, upon closer inspection it turned out that one thin line on my screen isn't working. It's preventing me from doing SwiftKey flow, and when I tried drawing in Evernote I could see it was skipping over that part of the screen.
What could be the cause of this? I can't rule out that it's the screen part itself, but could it be more likely that I somehow damaged the LCD flex cable? I tried detaching and reattaching cables, so I have doublechecked that. I guess my question is mostly, how useful is it to try and replace the cable? Thanks in advance!
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Today I finally decided to replace the broken screen on my Nexus 7. Everything went well and according to plan, and when turning on the device I noticed it was working fine. However, upon closer inspection it turned out that one thin line on my screen isn't working. It's preventing me from doing SwiftKey flow, and when I tried drawing in Evernote I could see it was skipping over that part of the screen.
What could be the cause of this? I can't rule out that it's the screen part itself, but could it be more likely that I somehow damaged the LCD flex cable? I tried detaching and reattaching cables, so I have doublechecked that. I guess my question is mostly, how useful is it to try and replace the cable? Thanks in advance!
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Did you replace the combo lcd/digitizer, or just the digitizer? In the latter case, you're lucky to have just a thin dead band; usually,1/3 of the screen would be unusable. In the former case, if the bezel is bent, however slightly, or there is some glue residue from the old screen on the bezel that causes the new screen to lie on an uneven surface, it would happen. I've experimented enough times to know the bezel has to be absolutely clean of everything and the surface must be 100% smooth and even. If you used strong tape on the new screen, your best bet is the multi-fix touch, as removing it would in most cases damage it.
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Did you replace the combo lcd/digitizer, or just the digitizer? In the latter case, you're lucky to have just a thin dead band; usually,1/3 of the screen would be unusable. In the former case, if the bezel is bent, however slightly, or there is some glue residue from the old screen on the bezel that causes the new screen to lie on an uneven surface, it would happen. I've experimented enough times to know the bezel has to be absolutely clean of everything and the surface must be 100% smooth and even. If you used strong tape on the new screen, your best bet is the multi-fix touch, as removing it would in most cases damage it.
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I replaced the screen + digitizer. I looked at the bezel (luckily the tape I used wasn't that strong so the screen was still detachable) and I cleaned it up thoroughly. There were indeed some glue residues left. However, it was no use, the screen still fails in the same locations. I had high hopes this might be the cause, but apparently not.
I highly doubt the bezel was bent, because I was very careful with it. I will try out the multi-fix touch option, but I'll do that tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. Thanks for all the suggestions!
wi11ow said:
I replaced the screen + digitizer. I looked at the bezel (luckily the tape I used wasn't that strong so the screen was still detachable) and I cleaned it up thoroughly. There were indeed some glue residues left. However, it was no use, the screen still fails in the same locations. I had high hopes this might be the cause, but apparently not.
I highly doubt the bezel was bent, because I was very careful with it. I will try out the multi-fix touch option, but I'll do that tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Don't know if you're familiar with the mechanics of the touchscreen, so I'm adding this for the sake of completeness. Lots of people would post problems and when you try to help, would snap back: "I already tried this and that and other things..." So if you already know, forget the rest.
I've found Yet Another Multi-touch Test (YAMTT) of tremendous help in diagnosing. When you switch from one firmware to another, YAMTT allows you to pinpoint exactly where touches do not register. If the dead band remains consistent, it's probably the screen itself. However, touch detection sometimes varies with the speed at which you touch. I've seen touches missing in some areas, which would register on a second or third or fourth pass. So, go slow in those areas, and back and forth to make sure they're really dead. Tedious process indeed, since you have around 30 variants to play with.
graphdarnell said:
Don't know if you're familiar with the mechanics of the touchscreen, so I'm adding this for the sake of completeness. Lots of people would post problems and when you try to help, would snap back: "I already tried this and that and other things..." So if you already know, forget the rest.
I've found Yet Another Multi-touch Test (YAMTT) of tremendous help in diagnosing. When you switch from one firmware to another, YAMTT allows you to pinpoint exactly where touches do not register. If the dead band remains consistent, it's probably the screen itself. However, touch detection sometimes varies with the speed at which you touch. I've seen touches missing in some areas, which would register on a second or third or fourth pass. So, go slow in those areas, and back and forth to make sure they're really dead. Tedious process indeed, since you have around 30 variants to play with.
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I don't know about the mechanics of the touchscreen, so all of this is helping me
I took a look at that tool, and I posted the result of drawing on imgur: paste "oyIt3bg" after imgur.com (I'm apparently still too 'new' to post links, sorry about that). It is clearly one band, very consistent. I think I should probably talk to the shop I got it from and ask for a replacement. Which sucks, because this particular parts took 3 weeks to even get here. Anyhow, glad I know what the problem is now. Again, thanks for all your help, I appreciate it
Hello fellow dutchie,
I have experienced this problem on my Nexus 4, and after having replaced the LCD+digitizer I also had issues with touch responsiveness in exactly the same areas. As silly as it would sound beforehand, it doesn't seem to be the screen or digitizer. Best... to give up.