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Hi,
First i will say thanks for the great rom, i will try it asap (a little bit more stable)
i read about this rom in the topic since it was started .
i have some Questions, it will be my first "clean" Android (without Sense)
There should be a installer after first start of the rom after flash? Where can i found more information about the things i can chose?
Evervolv toolbox, is that an addtional Settings Dialog with more Options or still a app which can be used as "standalone"
(sorry for the bad english)
When you install it you will get some options to choose a launcher and a2sd-script.
On first start you won't get the app to set your g-acc and so on, you'll have to do that in the system settings.
And the Evervolv-Toolbox are additional settings the this rom it's not a standalone app.
Hope this helps
grtz
Please note that Sandvold ICS v. 0.4.2.1 has some stability problems at the moment. Many people experience "black screen of death", device fails to turn on screen after a period of inactivity, battery has to be removed to reboot. I found that raising the minimum CPU speed from 245mhz to 384mhz completely removes this problem. With this small tweak the rom is great! You *should* be able to change this setting with Evervolv toolbox, sadly it does not work. For some reason the toolbox runs with insufficient rights to tweak cpu speed, I did my own scripts to set cpu speed from the console instead.
cheers
/Stig
stig_dk said:
Please note that Sandvold ICS v. 0.4.2.1 has some stability problems at the moment. Many people experience "black screen of death", device fails to turn on screen after a period of inactivity, battery has to be removed to reboot. I found that raising the minimum CPU speed from 245mhz to 384mhz completely removes this problem. With this small tweak the rom is great! You *should* be able to change this setting with Evervolv toolbox, sadly it does not work. For some reason the toolbox runs with insufficient rights to tweak cpu speed, I did my own scripts to set cpu speed from the console instead.
cheers
/Stig
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Black-screen-issues can be solved by flashing MIUI-kernel:
http://www.miui-au.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=166
Hi! I use ICS since beta 0.3.9 and I'm now updated to 0.4.4
This release seem very stable now. Just remember that the camera preview doesn't work. Also, you might have some problem with MMS.
App space problem
Hello - some help for a newbie please (well Desire newbie)...
I did try reading though Sandvolds thread, and I have tried to remedy, but I don't seem to get much further ....
I am running an ICS beta on my tablet, so I thought it would be interesting to try it on my Desire too. On the tablet there is more memory, so I have never experienced space problems with apps.
I rooted the Desire OK - and flashed 0.4.2.1 ... ran fairly smoothly, but hit space problems when trying to load up some of my favourite apps. I have a 16gb sd card. I downloaded apps2sd from the market - and moved some of the apps. However still not able to update some system apps from the market due to insufficient space (even though there appears to be enough).
Reading the other thread, I have gathered some/little understanding... and so before flashing 0.4.4 I reformatted my SD card from recovery choosing the largest ext4 that I could.
I was then ready to go to try 0.4.4.
On trying the Amarullz script and Nova launcher - I was having lots of lag after boot and I kept getting prompted to enter PIN number and reboot the phone. (I had done a factory wipe and cleared Dalvik after flashing the ROM).
I then reflashed choose Apex launcher, stock Kernal and data2sd option.
I wiped after flashing, did a few waits and reboots - as others recommended this.
Now seems to run quite smoothly, I have added back a bunch of apps via Titanium Backup ... but I don't see any apps 'automatically' being moved to sd card. I have moved as many as I can manually.
But I can also see that I am going to run out of space again soon ....
If I look in the settings at storage I see...
Internal storage - Apps 104MB Available 26.86MB
SD Card - Apps 239MB
Am I doing anything wrong?
Looloup said:
Hello - some help for a newbie please (well Desire newbie)...
I did try reading though Sandvolds thread, and I have tried to remedy, but I don't seem to get much further ....
I am running an ICS beta on my tablet, so I thought it would be interesting to try it on my Desire too. On the tablet there is more memory, so I have never experienced space problems with apps.
I rooted the Desire OK - and flashed 0.4.2.1 ... ran fairly smoothly, but hit space problems when trying to load up some of my favourite apps. I have a 16gb sd card. I downloaded apps2sd from the market - and moved some of the apps. However still not able to update some system apps from the market due to insufficient space (even though there appears to be enough).
Reading the other thread, I have gathered some/little understanding... and so before flashing 0.4.4 I reformatted my SD card from recovery choosing the largest ext4 that I could.
I was then ready to go to try 0.4.4.
On trying the Amarullz script and Nova launcher - I was having lots of lag after boot and I kept getting prompted to enter PIN number and reboot the phone. (I had done a factory wipe and cleared Dalvik after flashing the ROM).
I then reflashed choose Apex launcher, stock Kernal and data2sd option.
I wiped after flashing, did a few waits and reboots - as others recommended this.
Now seems to run quite smoothly, I have added back a bunch of apps via Titanium Backup ... but I don't see any apps 'automatically' being moved to sd card. I have moved as many as I can manually.
But I can also see that I am going to run out of space again soon ....
If I look in the settings at storage I see...
Internal storage - Apps 104MB Available 26.86MB
SD Card - Apps 239MB
Am I doing anything wrong?
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1). www.revolutionary.io use this
2). www.alpharev.com download cm7r2.img
3). flash the hboot
Code:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
4). re-flash 4.4 and choose stock a2sd
5. enable a2sd
Code:
su
a2sd install
#choose settings#
Thanks for quick response..... I have a fee more questions....
I originally rooted my Desire via revolutionary .... do I need to do it again?
I guess I then flash the zip file.
The fastboot command - can I do this from the terminal app?
hi,
fastboot command and adb must be running from computer.
you need to instal sdk android sdk android
if you run revolutionary, u don t need to do once again but to flash an hboot you must be Soffed.
dunno if revolutionary does the job... i used alpharev to do son gain S-offed and able to flash hboot from fastboot command.
I saw the option to install agps in the installer but i chose gps. How can i add the agps when i already installed the rom? Because getting gps fix in navigation is taking way to long, so long that i abort it while trying
Getting closer
@bortak
1. Done OK
2. Done OK
3. Done OK
4. Done ... BUT ... no Gapps, no Terminal app ... not much really not even a keyboard (even after 2 reboots)
- The link to Gapps for CM7r2 no longer works
5. Unable to try this as no Terminal app ... and I can't get ADB working on my PC.
where have my apps gone?
So I can't get cm7r2 to work, so I reflashed hboot back to standard, I then reflashed 0.4.4 choosing stock a2sd. I installed a2sd via terminal and moved cache too. After reboot I installed a bunch of apps .... and eventually ran out of space - as if apps not being moved.
I then rebooted, and all of the apps except the paid apps have gone. I installed a couple of apps from the. Market and they have also gone after reboot.
I turned a2sd off, then I was able to keep apps over a reboot ..... but I would like to get a2sd working.
Any ideas?
For now I am manually moving apps to SD card.
Sorry for this question...
Your 3G, Wifi is working.. My wifi, 3G is not working..
3g (once APN set up) and wifi both working well
Looloup said:
@bortak
1. Done OK
2. Done OK
3. Done OK
4. Done ... BUT ... no Gapps, no Terminal app ... not much really not even a keyboard (even after 2 reboots)
- The link to Gapps for CM7r2 no longer works
5. Unable to try this as no Terminal app ... and I can't get ADB working on my PC.
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Did you do a wipe after flashing the rom? I had a similar problem when doing that. CWM Recovery also deletes the sd-ext partition, and as on cm7r2 there are also system apps on sd-ext, they are gone.
With the included a2sd apps should be moved to sd-ext automatically. It is not shown on the phone.
How big is your ext4 partition? And did you create it with CWM Recovery? If so, try recreating with gPartEd.
muellersmattes said:
Did you do a wipe after flashing the rom? I had a similar problem when doing that. CWM Recovery also deletes the sd-ext partition, and as on cm7r2 there are also system apps on sd-ext, they are gone.
With the included a2sd apps should be moved to sd-ext automatically. It is not shown on the phone.
How big is your ext4 partition? And did you create it with CWM Recovery? If so, try recreating with gPartEd.
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This.
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I created the extra partition via CWM recovery - maybe too large as I made it 4gb.
I wiped the device and Dalvik cache after flashing the ROM.
I then set a2sd via terminal and allowed reboot.
I then downloaded apps (or restored via Titanium)
Eventually ran out of space when downloading apps - so they were not being moved.
Apps run OK.
When I did a normal reboot - the apps 'disappeared '.
Reading Bortaks debug guide the only thing I can see that looks relevant is to try reformatting the SC card with 2 primary partitions.
Read what i wrote? Do the following:
1) Recreate the partitions on your sdcard using GParted
2) Do a full wipe BEFORE flashing.
3) Re-flash the rom and select stock a2sd
4) Do NOT wipe again
4) Reboot, start Terminal emulator, set up a2sd
5) See if apps stay
On my first try I selected stock A2SD and set it up as explained using the terminal. (using a 2GB ext3 partition, placed after FAT32)
I rebooted and everything seemed fine, and I installed several apps. After a while, though, I got the "insufficient storage" error whenever I tried to install something. In the application manager the internal memory available had a large negative value.
I then wiped everything, reformated the 2GB ext3 partition to ext4, using "Minitool parition wizard" and reinstalled the Sandvold ICS ROM with Amarullz. Everything seems fine, and it shows 2GB internal memory. However, I've noticed that the ROM gets more unstable the more apps I install (it shows 500MB installed apps now, after removing around 50MB)...
Most of the time what happens is that system apps start crashing (Google Music, Dialler, Contacts, etc.) out of nowhere. After a while normal apps crash on execution as well. Google music is useless, as it crashes after a few songs and brings down the whole phone. Other music apps don't have this problem.
Am I doing anything wrong with the way I set up Amarullz? Should I retry stock A2SD with ext4?
I'm using stock HBOOT, Nova launcher and stock kernel.
Got there ..... but.....
After repartitioning my SD card for the third time ... I finally have this working.
Thanks to all for help/advice ..... but (isn't there always a but) ....
Downloads from the Market/Play are extremely slow maybe 5+ times the same apps took before .... I have tried on different WiFi connections - still the same.
Is this a consequence of the write speed of my SD card (it is only class 4) ... I did see a post in another thread where a class 4 wasn't recommended, but this was refuted by others using a class 4 card.
Otherwise all apps seem to be running OK, with no real loss of performance.
I guess once I have finally loaded up on all the apps I want, the Play updates will be more infrequent and less of an issue.
I just installed cyanogen mod 7.2 stable(It's a clean install and i have wiped every thing) following that installed the latest gapps package(gapps-gb-20110828-signed).
The market would not even load and crash constantly.
I have tried these tips:
1.Cleared data and cache (settings-> applications-> market -> Then clearing cache)
2.Wiped Dalvik cache
3.Fixed permissions.
4.Changed "language"
5.Re-installed gapps package.
All this was to no avail.
Downloaded "jelly bean" market and installed it.
Now the market would load ok but it crashes when i try to download some application.It sucks.
Any suggestion ?
Try Increase your MTD Partition if you have any... It should fix it... If not, delete your account from the settings (Accounts) and log on while opening PlayStore. Hope it helps.
Have you flashed the right Gapps? Some of the latest ones are for ICS Users and i have found they dont work.
Just google "Gapps" and then find the one without ICS
Hope this helps
MacGyver Jack said:
Have you flashed the right Gapps? Some of the latest ones are for ICS Users and i have found they dont work.
Just google "Gapps" and then find the one without ICS
Hope this helps
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Not working....yes,I am flashing the right gapps zip.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
I have also verified the MD5 checksum.
olu.danNY said:
Try Increase your MTD Partition if you have any... It should fix it... If not, delete your account from the settings (Accounts) and log on while opening PlayStore. Hope it helps.
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Deleting the account and factory reset is not working....even installing the CM 7.2 again and again is not working.
What does it have to do with MTD partition ?I have got sufficient internal memoery as i told you that it's a clean install and I don't have any app installed on my device except custom CM apps.
What about going to Setting > Manage applications > Market > Force close
I know you may have tried it and seems silly but i had a problem updating my apps and i did this and everything seems to work. What about a reboot?
Edit: I found this temporary workaround so see if this helps!
Here is what I did:
1- go to app manager from settings,
2- uninstall the latest version of google play store
3- clear data and cache of google play store
4- install version Google Play Store v3.5.19
5- when you open the market, google will still prompt you to update to the latest version (dont continue, leave it as it is)
6- if you want to update/install the apps do it thru the browser in your phone/computer (it will straight away update in your phone)
optimusodd said:
Deleting the account and factory reset is not working....even installing the CM 7.2 again and again is not working.
What does it have to do with MTD partition ?I have got sufficient internal memoery as i told you that it's a clean install and I don't have any app installed on my device except custom CM apps.
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If you have Custom MTD partition, the issue may be, you have a low space reserved for System (Where GAPPS are installed) and more for Data.
Try using 175, 15... It is sufficent enough to run smoothly.
Cheers.
olu.danNY said:
If you have Custom MTD partition, the issue may be, you have a low space reserved for System (Where GAPPS are installed) and more for Data.
Try using 175, 15... It is sufficent enough to run smoothly.
Cheers.
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Ah hell,why the hell didn't I ever think of this ?
Thanks for the life saving tip ,still not sure though if it was market version related or the system partition related.
Increased the partitons to [mtd 175 15].Market took a while,got updated to version 3.7.13 and it's working now.Really appreciate your help.
BTW,How did you figure out that [mtd 175 15] will work on "CM 7.2 Stable"?Just wondering can’t we take some more space from “system”.I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
Not sure how much we can take from system to flash CM 7.2 Stable but I guess we can still reduce "cache" to 5MB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
What do you think ?
optimusodd said:
Ah hell,why the hell didn't I ever think of this ?
Thanks for the life saving tip ,still not sure though if it was market version related or the system partition related.
Increased the partitons to [mtd 175 15].Market took a while,got updated to version 3.7.13 and it's working now.Really appreciate your help.
BTW,How did you figure out that [mtd 175 15] will work on "CM 7.2 Stable"?Just wondering can’t we take some more space from “system”.I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
Not sure how much we can take from system to flash CM 7.2 Stable but I guess we can still reduce "cache" to 5MB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
What do you think ?
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I use mtd 140 20. Reducing the cache to 10 caused the force closing of market for me.
saadislam said:
I use mtd 140 20. Reducing the cache to 10 caused the force closing of market for me.
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Are you sure you are running "CM 7.2 Stable" on HTC Buzz(Wildfire).
I tried [mtd 140 5] and it was causing "The application Market (process com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly. (FORCE CLOSE)".
optimusodd said:
Are you sure you are running "CM 7.2 Stable" on HTC Buzz(Wildfire).
I tried [mtd 140 5] and it was causing "The application Market (process com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly. (FORCE CLOSE)".
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Try [mtd 140 20] . Like I said before reducing cache gave me force close. This configuration works fine for me. I was using cm7.2 stable since its release but now I am using lewa with the same partitions.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA
Don't ever, EVER underestimate olu.danNY's advice!
And search a lil' before posting... I've had the same problem not so long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689239
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
olu.danNY said:
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
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I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
slymobi said:
I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
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Sorry... I guess that ain't clear enough... What I meant is this... Remove some stuffs from the ROM and Increase your Custom MTD partition... For example, if 100, 10 makes it run smoothly without edit, after edit, 90, 10 might run it good giving you extra 10MB for data... Hope I am clear here.
Cheers.
Sorry for double posting... Connection ish...
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slymobi said:
I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
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Sorry... I guess that ain't clear enough... What I meant is this... Remove some stuffs from the ROM and Increase your Custom MTD partition... For example, if 100, 10 makes it run smoothly without edit, after edit, 90, 10 might run it good giving you extra 10MB for data... Hope I am clear here.
Cheers.
HipHopBlond said:
Don't ever, EVER underestimate olu.danNY's advice!
And search a lil' before posting... I've had the same problem not so long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689239
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TBH I had done enough research to fix the issue.I did what one usually would have considered good research else it shouldn't have taken more than 5 endless days and nights
Even on CM forums,Android forums and several blogs.Don't know why couldn't find your post.
Anyway,"olu.danNY's" advice helped me else i was going to ditch CM7 for some other ROM .In my opinoin there should be a thread where users can update their working MTD partitions regarding their ROMs.
Right now I am running CM 7.2 Stable with [mtd 140 15] and some other users are running it even with [mtd 130 15]. i.e cache partiton was the root of the trouble.
olu.danNY said:
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
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I also prefer removing pre-installed apps using TB but that doesn't really help you that much.
Custom MTD partition does the real rescue and you can also use "S2E" to gain more space by moving apps to Ext partition e.g games,maps.Just make sure you don't move app data to Ext.
SOLVED
P.S. Don't attempt to shrink the cache partition "too much".
Keep it(Cache) ≥ 15
optimusodd said:
SOLVED
P.S. Don't attempt to shrink the cache partition "too much".
Keep it(Cache) ≥ 15
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YMMV - especially with CM7. It has been mentioned a few times over the forum that CM7 has a bind script which makes your whole /data partition used as cache - as long as it's activated (default) and not corrupted there shouldn't be any problems with the play store. No idea regarding other situations but I know of people running a 5MB cache partition on CM7...
eventcom said:
YMMV - especially with CM7. It has been mentioned a few times over the forum that CM7 has a bind script which makes your whole /data partition used as cache - as long as it's activated (default) and not corrupted there shouldn't be any problems with the play store. No idea regarding other situations but I know of people running a 5MB cache partition on CM7...
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Yep,I know CM7 has some sort of script that automatically moves cache to data partition if it overflows(larger than the cache size).
I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
No idea why it is causing trouble with CM7.2-Stable. Maybe it's lacking that script which makes it sufficent enough to run smoothly if cahce partition is <15.
Hello,
I installed on my Desire with STOCK HBOOT Sandvold ICS in the Version 0.17.1.1. I choosed stock a2sd in the installation and active in terminal a2sd install. Then I restored my apps by Mybackup Root. I have now the problem if I want to install a app from the market I get the error message "No Disk space available" (or something like that, I'm using German language).
I have a 512mb ext4 partition and activate a2sd in Terminal. I searched the topic for problems like that and found that I have to install mount2sd. I did this, but it didn't help either.
What should I do now? I haven't enough posts to post in the sandvold ics topic.
Greets,
Burak
You should go back to GB...
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nlooooo said:
You should go back to GB...
Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders
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Why? No.
If you can live with slower perfomance, active the stock a2sd again with answers: y, y ,y
vBurak said:
Hello,
I installed on my Desire with STOCK HBOOT Sandvold ICS in the Version 0.17.1.1. I choosed stock a2sd in the installation and active in terminal a2sd install. Then I restored my apps by Mybackup Root. I have now the problem if I want to install a app from the market I get the error message "No Disk space available" (or something like that, I'm using German language).
I have a 512mb ext4 partition and activate a2sd in Terminal. I searched the topic for problems like that and found that I have to install mount2sd. I did this, but it didn't help either.
What should I do now? I haven't enough posts to post in the sandvold ics topic.
Greets,
Burak
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I had exactly the same problem. At first I chose during flashing the option "Regular a2sdext" as it seems good to me. However, nothing has changed, it was not working for me at all. Then I reflashed again with "Stock a2sd" and after booting I went to terminal and activated it. I tried it with several combinations (in some of them I got the message "Insufficcient storage available" and I only had like 5 apps installed...). At the end I finally made it work with the combination that is recommended by Sandvold - Y N Y. After that I have been installing several apps and my internal memory does not go down almost at all :good:... I will see later, but for now, this is the best set up for me....
I had this problem
I had this problem with one application. When installing from market, there'd be a pop up message saying that there was no more storage space even though there was plenty.
A few hours later, everything went back to normal and I managed to install all the apps I wanted.
(Side question: have you guys updated to Sandvold ICS 0.18 Beta?! I have, but I lost root access, so now I'm trying to regain it. Could someone alert Sandvold? I'm a new member and I can't post to 'Android development forums")
CzarD said:
I had this problem with one application. When installing from market, there'd be a pop up message saying that there was no more storage space even though there was plenty.
A few hours later, everything went back to normal and I managed to install all the apps I wanted.
(Side question: have you guys updated to Sandvold ICS 0.18 Beta?! I have, but I lost root access, so now I'm trying to regain it. Could someone alert Sandvold? I'm a new member and I can't post to 'Android development forums")
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what do you mean that you lost root access? I was planning to upgrade to 0.18 today (I flashed 0.17.1 yesterday, but I have an issue with my phone - I cannot recevie any phone calls - and I hope another flash might help it...), so I guess I will wait a while....
skubko said:
what do you mean that you lost root access? I was planning to upgrade to 0.18 today (I flashed 0.17.1 yesterday, but I have an issue with my phone - I cannot recevie any phone calls - and I hope another flash might help it...), so I guess I will wait a while....
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I have been testing 0.18 for a few hours now. Your phone issues should be resolved except you will encounter a new issue. You will lose superuser privilliges, to restore this, you have to install a zip of superuser through recovery.
My comments on Sandvold ICS 0.18
skubko said:
what do you mean that you lost root access? I was planning to upgrade to 0.18 today (I flashed 0.17.1 yesterday, but I have an issue with my phone - I cannot recevie any phone calls - and I hope another flash might help it...), so I guess I will wait a while....
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I had 0.17.1.1 and all was well, it was tiny bit laggy, but overall it was cool.
i updated to 0.18, and I lost root access: the apps requesting SuperUser premissions were denied. (If you don't know what root access is, please google it)
As iyf said, you can flash the zip provided in Sandvold's official thread to restore root access. Check page 1601 or so for the flashable zip that will restore root access. I did so, and regained root access.
Then I got back all my apps as Sandvold 0.18 is my daily driver. But as I was using it, I noticed that whenever you change something in the system settings, it does not apply immediately. For example, I want my phone to lock immediately when it goes to sleep, well it simply doesn't. The power menu lost a few of the shortcuts it had in 0.17.1.1 (sound profiles...) and even if you restored them in the system settings, it won't change.
All in all, 0.18 is great step in terms of stability and reactiveness. No more scroll lag, apps open seamlessly, and no more 3G signal problems. The camera still isn't working though. Nevertheless, bizarrely the system lost its coherence: the system settings are not immediately applied and used, and the screen just won't lock. Those are the problems I encountered this afternoon.
I hope Sandvold takes a look at this thread as I cannot post on the official ROM thread coz I just registered on XDA.
(My Home button died today, even if I press it really hard, it won't respond, but I think it's a hardware issue)
EDIT: About the no more space issue, I had this today even though there was plenty of space left. I rebooted the phone and the warning disappeared.
CzarD said:
I had 0.17.1.1 and all was well, it was tiny bit laggy, but overall it was cool.
i updated to 0.18, and I lost root access: the apps requesting SuperUser premissions were denied. (If you don't know what root access is, please google it)
As iyf said, you can flash the zip provided in Sandvold's official thread to restore root access. Check page 1601 or so for the flashable zip that will restore root access. I did so, and regained root access.
Then I got back all my apps as Sandvold 0.18 is my daily driver. But as I was using it, I noticed that whenever you change something in the system settings, it does not apply immediately. For example, I want my phone to lock immediately when it goes to sleep, well it simply doesn't. The power menu lost a few of the shortcuts it had in 0.17.1.1 (sound profiles...) and even if you restored them in the system settings, it won't change.
All in all, 0.18 is great step in terms of stability and reactiveness. No more scroll lag, apps open seamlessly, and no more 3G signal problems. The camera still isn't working though. Nevertheless, bizarrely the system lost its coherence: the system settings are not immediately applied and used, and the screen just won't lock. Those are the problems I encountered this afternoon.
I hope Sandvold takes a look at this thread as I cannot post on the official ROM thread coz I just registered on XDA.
(My Home button died today, even if I press it really hard, it won't respond, but I think it's a hardware issue)
EDIT: About the no more space issue, I had this today even though there was plenty of space left. I rebooted the phone and the warning disappeared.
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of course I know what root is, otherwise I would not be here, right? ... I just did not understand what happened to you when you updated to 0.18.... Now I understand.... and regarding to your issues - in 0.17.1 I had exactly the same problem - my screen did not lock even I set it up correctly and I also had the problem with Home button, it simply did not work + I could not receive any phone calls... all of that was really annoying and I tried to find some help on sandvold's blog, without any success, I also tried their IRC, nobody helped me either. I did not want to do a full wipe again, but at the end I did (and now I have to set up everything as well ) but after full wipe, everything is working correclty... I can receive phone calls, my screen locks and home button is also working ... so I recommend you to do a full wipe, I am sure it will resolve your issues as well...
CzarD said:
I had this problem with one application. When installing from market, there'd be a pop up message saying that there was no more storage space even though there was plenty.
A few hours later, everything went back to normal and I managed to install all the apps I wanted.
(Side question: have you guys updated to Sandvold ICS 0.18 Beta?! I have, but I lost root access, so now I'm trying to regain it. Could someone alert Sandvold? I'm a new member and I can't post to 'Android development forums")
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I also lost the root access with Beta 0.18(with full wipe),
(Beta 0.17 "root access" is OK!)
Superuser is out of order with this issue so that I can't activate A2SD
btw,
I have once tried the "AD2SDX", but didn't work normally:
I merged 1GB ext4 for it. And every time when I install about 10~15 Apps
A message on the top of the screen would tell me that I almost reached the limit.
(I'm using traditional Chinese, I don't know what it was written in English)
skubko said:
of course I know what root is, otherwise I would not be here, right? ... I just did not understand what happened to you when you updated to 0.18.... Now I understand.... and regarding to your issues - in 0.17.1 I had exactly the same problem - my screen did not lock even I set it up correctly and I also had the problem with Home button, it simply did not work + I could not receive any phone calls... all of that was really annoying and I tried to find some help on sandvold's blog, without any success, I also tried their IRC, nobody helped me either. I did not want to do a full wipe again, but at the end I did (and now I have to set up everything as well ) but after full wipe, everything is working correclty... I can receive phone calls, my screen locks and home button is also working ... so I recommend you to do a full wipe, I am sure it will resolve your issues as well...
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By full wipe you mean:
1. wipe data/factory reset
2. wipe cache
3. wipe dalvik cache
4. wipe battery stats
right?
I always do that when I flash a new ROM... Anyway, will try again later and hope that it works.
Caesar
CzarD said:
By full wipe you mean:
1. wipe data/factory reset
2. wipe cache
3. wipe dalvik cache
4. wipe battery stats
right?
I always do that when I flash a new ROM... Anyway, will try again later and hope that it works.
Caesar
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yes, it is what I meant... I did full wipe before flashing and then another after it ... I do not wipe battery stats during that process,but it does not matter I hope it will work for you...
UserMatty said:
I also lost the root access with Beta 0.18(with full wipe),
(Beta 0.17 "root access" is OK!)
Superuser is out of order with this issue so that I can't activate A2SD
btw,
I have once tried the "AD2SDX", but didn't work normally:
I merged 1GB ext4 for it. And every time when I install about 10~15 Apps
A message on the top of the screen would tell me that I almost reached the limit.
(I'm using traditional Chinese, I don't know what it was written in English)
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Whenever I got this message, I'd reboot or hot reboot and it would disappear. I can't remember if I had the same script.
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skubko said:
yes, it is what I meant... I did full wipe before flashing and then another after it ... I do not wipe battery stats during that process,but it does not matter I hope it will work for you...
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I did a full wipe again, and everything went back to perfect working order. Thanks man
CzarD said:
Whenever I got this message, I'd reboot or hot reboot and it would disappear. I can't remember if I had the same script.
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I did a full wipe again, and everything went back to perfect working order. Thanks man
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you mean working with AD2SDX ?
Can I ask you how do you merge and format ext4 ?
Actually, I'm using MiniTool Partition Wizard, is it okay ?
cause I did reboot after I saw the message, but didn't work.
But I surely know that I can see "1GB" in "Apps" in "settings"
quite confusing
UserMatty said:
you mean working with AD2SDX ?
Can I ask you how do you merge and format ext4 ?
Actually, I'm using MiniTool Partition Wizard, is it okay ?
cause I did reboot after I saw the message, but didn't work.
But I surely know that I can see "1GB" in "Apps" in "settings"
quite confusing
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It's not okay, minitool doesn't do that correctly. Use 4ext recovery to partition your sd card.
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UserMatty said:
you mean working with AD2SDX ?
Can I ask you how do you merge and format ext4 ?
Actually, I'm using MiniTool Partition Wizard, is it okay ?
cause I did reboot after I saw the message, but didn't work.
But I surely know that I can see "1GB" in "Apps" in "settings"
quite confusing
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Quite confusing indeed. I must say I'm no expert developer or programmer, heck I'm an engineering student. i just experiment on my Desire. But my experience in bricking/unbricking/flashing/etc tells me the following:
Minitool wizard apparently is not okay. I used it at first too but my Desire just could not read or detect the EXT3 partition I created. I tried EXT4. I tried different roms and scripts, none worked for me. (To be honest, I only tried 3 roms and a few scripts).
What I used is plain simple: Clockworkmod Recovery partitioning tools. It works for me!
First restore your SD card to full FAT32 configuration (I might suggest changing the basic storage unit from a few bytes to a few kilobytes as it might increase SD card responsiveness).
BACK IT UP, you will lose everything on it when you partition it in CWM.
Boot into recovery and select partition SD card (It is advised that the size of your partition does not exceed 1.5 GB as a few ROM developers have pointed out - not Sandvold though- I use 512 MB, which is more than enough for me). Set SWAP to 0 Bytes. (i have no idea what swap is, should google it, but most threads advise a swap of 0 B).
That's it, you have your partition.
I use CWM and Sandvold 0.18. If you use this setup, everything should be okay, at least it's ok on my phone.
I use stock a2sd when flashing Sandvold ICS ROMs.
I'm on stock HBOOT, S-OFF, and using the regular Kernel that comes with Sandvold 0.18. (I tried tiamat, but the battery dies after half a day of use!)
CzarD said:
Quite confusing indeed. I must say I'm no expert developer or programmer, heck I'm an engineering student. i just experiment on my Desire. But my experience in bricking/unbricking/flashing/etc tells me the following:
Minitool wizard apparently is not okay. I used it at first too but my Desire just could not read or detect the EXT3 partition I created. I tried EXT4. I tried different roms and scripts, none worked for me. (To be honest, I only tried 3 roms and a few scripts).
What I used is plain simple: Clockworkmod Recovery partitioning tools. It works for me!
First restore your SD card to full FAT32 configuration (I might suggest changing the basic storage unit from a few bytes to a few kilobytes as it might increase SD card responsiveness).
BACK IT UP, you will lose everything on it when you partition it in CWM.
Boot into recovery and select partition SD card (It is advised that the size of your partition does not exceed 1.5 GB as a few ROM developers have pointed out - not Sandvold though- I use 512 MB, which is more than enough for me). Set SWAP to 0 Bytes. (i have no idea what swap is, should google it, but most threads advise a swap of 0 B).
That's it, you have your partition.
I use CWM and Sandvold 0.18. If you use this setup, everything should be okay, at least it's ok on my phone.
I use stock a2sd when flashing Sandvold ICS ROMs.
I'm on stock HBOOT, S-OFF, and using the regular Kernel that comes with Sandvold 0.18. (I tried tiamat, but the battery dies after half a day of use!)
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just to add - I have Amon RA Recovery and I partitioned my SD card by that, it was also working without any problems everytime I did it...
@CzarD - I am glad to hear that the wipe helped you...
You should try out the Amarullz or INT2SD from the Aroma installer. I have INT2SD and I have 1,3G of free space (2G EXT partition)
CzarD said:
Quite confusing indeed. I must say I'm no expert developer or programmer, heck I'm an engineering student. i just experiment on my Desire. But my experience in bricking/unbricking/flashing/etc tells me the following:
Minitool wizard apparently is not okay. I used it at first too but my Desire just could not read or detect the EXT3 partition I created. I tried EXT4. I tried different roms and scripts, none worked for me. (To be honest, I only tried 3 roms and a few scripts).
What I used is plain simple: Clockworkmod Recovery partitioning tools. It works for me!
First restore your SD card to full FAT32 configuration (I might suggest changing the basic storage unit from a few bytes to a few kilobytes as it might increase SD card responsiveness).
BACK IT UP, you will lose everything on it when you partition it in CWM.
Boot into recovery and select partition SD card (It is advised that the size of your partition does not exceed 1.5 GB as a few ROM developers have pointed out - not Sandvold though- I use 512 MB, which is more than enough for me). Set SWAP to 0 Bytes. (i have no idea what swap is, should google it, but most threads advise a swap of 0 B).
That's it, you have your partition.
I use CWM and Sandvold 0.18. If you use this setup, everything should be okay, at least it's ok on my phone.
I use stock a2sd when flashing Sandvold ICS ROMs.
I'm on stock HBOOT, S-OFF, and using the regular Kernel that comes with Sandvold 0.18. (I tried tiamat, but the battery dies after half a day of use!)
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As I know, swap in linux is somewhat like virtual memory in Windows.
Will be launched when the system is in low memory.
That's exactly everything I know
I'm now Using Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4, stock HBOOT, S-OFF
And just follow your way to full wipe then install the system again(stock a2sd)
I still can't get the root access. thus, I can't activate a2sd in terminal
PS: with Beta 0.18
But Beta 0.17.1 currently work!
Hello Folks,
I have just moved from MW CM 5.0 to MW 4.3 (Oxygen) due to some call-delay issue of the first one.
MW 4.3 is quick and with no major bugs. the only bad surprise is the memory availability. Making a Titanium restore of all the previouse app+dada I crashed in the annoying "not enough memory" message.
I imagine that the fact that the M2SD is managed internally change the performance of it (true?). By the way I was playing with the different option trying to gain some space and I came across a new functionality (new for me) such as "bind /data/data to sd-ext/app-data" not really sure what it does but it increased my free internal memory from 12mb to 89mb. GREAT !! the only problem is that the overall speed of the system went drastically down. I guess it s normal as application will read their data from the SD instead of the quicker internal memory. Unfortunately with this option on the whole gsm was not usable anymore.
My question is: Is there any way to free more memory using this ROM? (with a decent GSM's response time)
Thanks for your help
Stefano
stegal said:
Hello Folks,
I have just moved from MW CM 5.0 to MW 4.3 (Oxygen) due to some call-delay issue of the first one.
MW 4.3 is quick and with no major bugs. the only bad surprise is the memory availability. Making a Titanium restore of all the previouse app+dada I crashed in the annoying "not enough memory" message.
I imagine that the fact that the M2SD is managed internally change the performance of it (true?). By the way I was playing with the different option trying to gain some space and I came across a new functionality (new for me) such as "bind /data/data to sd-ext/app-data" not really sure what it does but it increased my free internal memory from 12mb to 89mb. GREAT !! the only problem is that the overall speed of the system went drastically down. I guess it s normal as application will read their data from the SD instead of the quicker internal memory. Unfortunately with this option on the whole gsm was not usable anymore.
My question is: Is there any way to free more memory using this ROM? (with a decent GSM's response time)
Thanks for your help
Stefano
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Well... that's the only option available on that rom, is to enable and mount sdext, that way it will move apps to the sdcard. I don't think it moves dalvik. Either way, what's your sdcard and class? Usually moving only apps doesn't really slow nothing important unless it's a class 2 card or some card with slower speeds. Even moving dalvik the rom should stay fast IMO. There's a slowdown but not that much.
MidnightDevil said:
Well... that's the only option available on that rom, is to enable and mount sdext, that way it will move apps to the sdcard. I don't think it moves dalvik. Either way, what's your sdcard and class? Usually moving only apps doesn't really slow nothing important unless it's a class 2 card or some card with slower speeds. Even moving dalvik the rom should stay fast IMO. There's a slowdown but not that much.
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I think that option I used "bind" move app and data to sd-ext. my sd is a class 4.
stegal said:
I think that option I used "bind" move app and data to sd-ext. my sd is a class 4.
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if u check the attachments for the rom in the development thread, there should be a dalvik2sd.zip there, i think i posted it there ages ago. just flash it in recovery.
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dalvik2sd
jmcclue said:
if u check the attachments for the rom in the development thread, there should be a dalvik2sd.zip there, i think i posted it there ages ago. just flash it in recovery.
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Jm,
I have a comment for you. First while I was looking for you post (could not find it though) I came across something that goes against your post, please read the following
<<
Do a clean installing!
Tips:
To enable Apps2Sdext and/or Data2SdExt visit Settings|Applications|Development.
To set the default installation partition go to Settings|Applications.
To move applications from sd-ext|sdcard|internal Settings|Applications|Manage Applications.
There is no Dalvik2SdExt because .dex will follow the location of the apk, so if you install an application on sd-ext the dex will be on sd-ext, the same applys for internal or sdcard.
Do not use A2sd scripts. >>
So where is the truth. Do I need this script or not. If you can explain me why could you also provide a link to this script?
Thanks in advance
Stefano
il post it later if u want it, im on my phone. u will get more memory
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jmcclue said:
il post it later if u want it, im on my phone. u will get more memory
Sent from my HTC Desire
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The part that confuse me is that "There is no Dalvik2SdExt because .dex will follow the location of the apk, so if you install an application on sd-ext the dex will be on sd-ext, the same applys for internal or sdcard."
I do not understand .. what he is saying, there is not dalvik2Sd and there is not need to have one (something like the A2SD) or there is not dalvik2sd so go ahead to install one.
if you know that the dalvik2sd script can free some space without side effects...pls post it
thanks
stegal said:
The part that confuse me is that "There is no Dalvik2SdExt because .dex will follow the location of the apk, so if you install an application on sd-ext the dex will be on sd-ext, the same applys for internal or sdcard."
I do not understand .. what he is saying, there is not dalvik2Sd and there is not need to have one (something like the A2SD) or there is not dalvik2sd so go ahead to install one.
if you know that the dalvik2sd script can free some space without side effects...pls post it
thanks
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basically if u check the box to install apps in sd-ext, from "now" on apps will install on sd-ext, but there is aready dalvik cache on ur phone before u check the boxes and thats what the dalvik2sd.zip moves(i think). iv used the zip and has no effect on performance or anything, it just free's up a wee bit of space.
il post the zip in bout 2 hours coz im busy. if u look at the OxyZM thread, click the attachments, the file is there.
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
il post it later if u want it, im on my phone. u will get more memory
Sent from my HTC Desire
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hi Jmcclue,
I tried to find your post...without result. I found one where you say that it was possible to download "click the wee paper clip", ok now I sound really silly but...where should I click? (no..I am not a blondie even if I sound like it )
F1, F1!!
Stefano
stegal said:
hi Jmcclue,
I tried to find your post...without result. I found one where you say that it was possible to download "click the wee paper clip", ok now I sound really silly but...where should I click? (no..I am not a blondie even if I sound like it )
F1, F1!!
Stefano
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lol il just upload it
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Dalvik to sd for MildWild Oxygen and where the "wee paper clip" is lol (attachments).
md5 - d7ba5d384a78d14e57d293cd877eef7b
jmcclue said:
lol il just upload it
Sent from my HTC Desire
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...hello jm just coming back to thank you for your support. Finally I have a stable situation. Nevertheless after installing the script you have uploaded nothing changed. I had to factory reset, reinstal CM 4.3, install your script and everthing went smooth. Now it s 2 weeking I am keeping installing new apps and my free memory stay basically stable uner 80mb free space.
I have just one curiosity..if I go to Settings--> storage I see SD-ext "unavailable". After all I do not care much but if it is unavailable...where my apps have been stored so far? ps I reserved 1Gb of SD-ext .
Cheers
ps I just installed another apps of 3mb...no changes in the free space, so cool I feel like "no-limits"
stegal said:
...hello jm just coming back to thank you for your support. Finally I have a stable situation. Nevertheless after installing the script you have uploaded nothing changed. I had to factory reset, reinstal CM 4.3, install your script and everthing went smooth. Now it s 2 weeking I am keeping installing new apps and my free memory stay basically stable uner 80mb free space.
I have just one curiosity..if I go to Settings--> storage I see SD-ext "unavailable". After all I do not care much but if it is unavailable...where my apps have been stored so far? ps I reserved 1Gb of SD-ext .
Cheers
ps I just installed another apps of 3mb...no changes in the free space, so cool I feel like "no-limits"
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not sure if it's been mentioned, but you should also be on cm7r2 hboot to maximise space (need to be s-off).
then follow the instructions on the first page of the thread to enable sd-ext. this will move user apps + user app dalvik cache to sd-ext. in other words, most of the dalvik cache should already be on sd-ext.
the dalvik2sd script should only move system dalvik cache to sd-ext, which will save you a little space.
to check everything is working, use an app like 'diskusage' to browse your partitions.
Hallo,
I am working with the stable CM9 version and INT2EXT+ on my HTC Wildfire S which you really cannot use without any 'storage expanding' script.
Its storage space is so horrible low. So thank you for this solution very much.
The mentioned constellation is running fine and fast so far - just the opposite to ROM EQDKP (with Data2SD) I had before which was stable but EXTREMLY slow!! (only the akku state makes problems obviously at all CM versions as it does not seem to be correct (lack of refresh)! Unfortunately.)
There is still enough space on my SD card:
* Phone info -> partition info: 724 MB used from 1,08 GB (data folder)
* Apps -> All: 683 MB used, 421 MB free
* Storage -> internal storage: 782 MB Apps, 380 MB free.
Who knows why they are different but anyway they say about the same.
But now I have a GooglePlay download problem when I want to install apps bigger than 12 MB. (before (when I did not have so many apps installed) this never was a problem)
To say it clearly: it is NOT an installation problem but happens already during the app download. It just stops and says that there is not enough internal phone storage left. VERY strange!
I doubt that this has to do s.th. with a cache space, does it? But this would be the space used for downloads, right?
[partition info -> cache: 2,5 MB / 35 MB; pi -> system: 211 MB / 260 MB)
But why should it make problems then? Can this be a problem of the script / INT2EXT ??...
I would be glad to get hints from anybody what the real problem here could be.
Thank you very much!
Falk2 said:
Hallo,
I am working with the stable CM9 version and INT2EXT+ on my HTC Wildfire S which you really cannot use without any 'storage expanding' script.
Its storage space is so horrible low. So thank you for this solution very much.
The mentioned constellation is running fine and fast so far - just the opposite to ROM EQDKP (with Data2SD) I had before which was stable but EXTREMLY slow!! (only the akku state makes problems obviously at all CM versions as it does not seem to be correct (lack of refresh)! Unfortunately.)
There is still enough space on my SD card:
* Phone info -> partition info: 724 MB used from 1,08 GB (data folder)
* Apps -> All: 683 MB used, 421 MB free
* Storage -> internal storage: 782 MB Apps, 380 MB free.
Who knows why they are different but anyway they say about the same.
But now I have a GooglePlay download problem when I want to install apps bigger than 12 MB. (before (when I did not have so many apps installed) this never was a problem)
To say it clearly: it is NOT an installation problem but happens already during the app download. It just stops and says that there is not enough internal phone storage left. VERY strange!
I doubt that this has to do s.th. with a cache space, does it? But this would be the space used for downloads, right?
[partition info -> cache: 2,5 MB / 35 MB; pi -> system: 211 MB / 260 MB)
But why should it make problems then? Can this be a problem of the script / INT2EXT ??...
I would be glad to get hints from anybody what the real problem here could be.
Thank you very much!
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That's because of the script(INT2EXT+), it keeps the data/data in the internal memory. This will give you more speed but if it is filled you won't be able to install or download anything from the Play Store. That's the reason why you are not able to use your EXT partition completely. If you want more space for apps, try INT2EXT4. But you will have to sacrifice some speed if you use it
Hallo csoulr666,
thanks for your helpful feedback!
Aha, but I would have expected an error message only during installation but not during download already which uses just the cache, doesn't it???...
Maybe you refer to the sentence of the INT2EXT script author: "100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext"!?
Is it this what you mean?...
But I still have much more than 200 MB left (380MB)!!... That should not be the reason then!?...
(and again: he talks about the internal state memory but not about the cache which is reserved ANYWAY, isn't it?...
How can I find out how much data is left in the original internal memory???...
And why are there differences in memory above (284, 421, 380 MB)?...
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But if it once should be for sure that the internal memory is the reason for that I would prefer to change the 1 GB sd-ext partition to 1,5 GB by 'Minitool Partition Wizard'. Should work,shoudln't it?...
Or do you think the difference in speed is not that much!?...
However, Root Explorer tells me for data/data:
used 130,66 MB, free 19,34 MB. (unfortunately cannot see folder sizes!)
Hmmmh... so now I understand nothing anymore!!
Should I at the end add 200 MB + 130,66 MB ?...
Falk2 said:
Hallo csoulr666,
thanks for your helpful feedback!
Aha, but I would have expected an error message only during installation but not during download already which uses just the cache, doesn't it???...
Maybe you refer to the sentence of the INT2EXT script author: "100mb internal is needed for every 500mb sd-ext"!?
Is it this what you mean?...
But I still have much more than 200 MB left (380MB)!!... That should not be the reason then!?...
(and again: he talks about the internal state memory but not about the cache which is reserved ANYWAY, isn't it?...
How can I find out how much data is left in the original internal memory???...
And why are there differences in memory above (284, 421, 380 MB)?...
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But if it once should be for sure that the internal memory is the reason for that I would prefer to change the 1 GB sd-ext partition to 1,5 GB by 'Minitool Partition Wizard'. Should work,shoudln't it?...
Or do you think the difference in speed is not that much!?...
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What the author meant that you need a 100MB of "acutal" internal storage(not EXT partition) to be able to use about 500 MB of the EXT partition. That's actually an estimate value, so you won't be able to get the same figures in all the ROMs. Even before downloading, the Play Store checks for the storage available for all the parts of an application. Maybe that's why it returns errors
Hallo csoulr666,
thank you for your additional explanation. In fact this would explain the phenomena.
I calculate then:
About 100 MB internal memory I need for 100 MB.
As WFS has about 120 MB internal mem. it is about 650 MB at all. Correct?
So this is the limitation ia have then which is too early.
And do you know if I can read out the left or too low memory anyhow.
Means, does any value gives me an information about the left actual internal memory value?
Possibly no?...
So then I am thinking about a change of the memory script.
Did you or anybody else can answer the following questions?:
1.) Do I have more memory left with scripts like Link2SD, INT2EXT or INT2EXT4 ??
2.) Is the speed reduction remarkable here? And if so when exactly?
3.) How can I change over to another script without reinstalling the whole ROM? (no overwriting possible, is it?)
Thank you very much again for your feedback!!
Falk2 said:
Hallo csoulr666,
thank you for your additional explanation. In fact this would explain the phenomena.
I calculate then:
About 100 MB internal memory I need for 100 MB.
As WFS has about 120 MB internal mem. it is about 650 MB at all. Correct?
So this is the limitation ia have then which is too early.
And do you know if I can read out the left or too low memory anyhow.
Means, does any value gives me an information about the left actual internal memory value?
Possibly no?...
So then I am thinking about a change of the memory script.
Did you or anybody else can answer the following questions?:
1.) Do I have more memory left with scripts like Link2SD, INT2EXT or INT2EXT4 ??
2.) Is the speed reduction remarkable here? And if so when exactly?
3.) How can I change over to another script without reinstalling the whole ROM? (no overwriting possible, is it?)
Thank you very much again for your feedback!!
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Actually the usable space depends on the internal memory that is free. So it will vary from different ROMs.
1) You would have more space with INT2EXT, INT2EXT4 but not with Link2SD(unless you buy the PRO version of the app allowing to move everything to the EXT partition)
2) Speed reduction can be significant if you load it up with a lot of Apps. And it might get a little annoying after 2-3 weeks or so
3)Overwriting will not be possible in most cases, since different scripts might mount different things on the 2nd Partition
back again from holiday...
So what would you suggest what I can do?
To 1: How much memory do I win in average with INT2EXT or the others? Can I install e.g. double the number of apps then?...
To 2: Your answer stands for which scripts? All the three? Or only INT2EXT, INT2EXT4 maybe?...
Could you explain why exactly the speed reduction appears? (isn't the fix part of an app also loaded in the fast RAM when started. So isn't it more a question of available RAM than speed?...)
To 3: Changing to another script would mean to flash the whole ROM again?... Or isn't there a way to delete my actual INT2EXT+ before installing e.g. INT2EXT?... Or is there still another way to exchange my script??...
4.) At last I couldn't even start my mobile at all! Although I did not install any new app for months all background provesses (like GooglePlay) cannot be started. Is this maybe because of updates of installed apps?...
Anyway I deinstalled TripAdvisor which needed full 45 MB ( and cannot be moved to SD card at all). But this did not help at all (reboot done)! I still have the same memory problems now and now cannot run my ROM CM9. Why not? Why the deinstallations don't help??...
Falk2 said:
back again from holiday...
So what would you suggest what I can do?
To 1: How much memory do I win in average with INT2EXT or the others? Can I install e.g. double the number of apps then?...
To 2: Your answer stands for which scripts? All the three? Or only INT2EXT, INT2EXT4 maybe?...
Could you explain why exactly the speed reduction appears? (isn't the fix part of an app also loaded in the fast RAM when started. So isn't it more a question of available RAM than speed?...)
To 3: Changing to another script would mean to flash the whole ROM again?... Or isn't there a way to delete my actual INT2EXT+ before installing e.g. INT2EXT?... Or is there still another way to exchange my script??...
4.) At last I couldn't even start my mobile at all! Although I did not install any new app for months all background provesses (like GooglePlay) cannot be started. Is this maybe because of updates of installed apps?...
Anyway I deinstalled TripAdvisor which needed full 45 MB ( and cannot be moved to SD card at all). But this did not help at all (reboot done)! I still have the same memory problems now and now cannot run my ROM CM9. Why not? Why the deinstallations don't help??...
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1. You will definitely be able to install more apps, but the exact number depends on the apps you use.
2. (2) stands for the difference between INT2EXT/INT2EXT4 and INT2EXT+
3. You simply can't change scripts, you will have to make a clean install and then use another script.
4. That happens sometimes, I generally reflash the ROM to get rid of this.
thank you vrey much, csoulr666, for answering !!
Unfortunately there are still answer details left...
To 1: What is it that makes the space bigger? Isn't it just the data part which normally is very low? (s. www.xda-developers.com/android/cronmod-gives-users-options-of-a2sd-d2ext-int2ext) So I suppose that there would be no big win of space with INT2EXT instead of INT2EXT+. What do you say?
1b.) How can I measure/read and estimate the left telephon space which is too small/missing in my case? (you know, all my storage values are okay currently but I have this problem anyway!)
1c.) What happens if I move apps to SD card by Options/Apps although INT2EXT+ is working?... And can this help?
T0 2: Again, could you please explain why exactly the speed reduction appears? I don't understand this. (isn't the data part of an app also loaded in the fast RAM when started. So isn't it more a question of available RAM than speed?...)
To 3: This is very bad news. It would mean much work for me if I really had to reinstall the ROM.
So are you pretty sure? Did you try already? I e.g. could imagine that there might be an extra transfer/exchange script from the author. Or a script exchange is already supported by the scripts. Oe.
See, the INT2EXT would also move the data part. So as this is NOT done yet (INT2EXT+) the new script (INT2EXT) would just have to complete this by moving them also to SD. I would imagine that this should work, shouldn't it?
3b.) Do you know where the script is located?... And shouldn't a new flash just overwrite it (both are very simular anyway!)? (maybe it can be done manually as well??...)
To 4: Isn't that strange? How can that happen? Why do you say 'sometimes'? Own experiences?
What can be the reason for this sometime problem?... How can I double-check that? Or is there maybe any option necessary to say the system to re-read the storage values?... Or... Who else can I ask?
Which phone do you have and which scripts did you try already?
If you cannot answer some questions... Can I reach the writer of the INT2EXT scripts maybe?... (if I may write him under [email protected] ?...)
Hallo csoulr666,
are you still there?
Would be so nice to get a feedback from you.
Or are you helpless now as well?...
Falk2 said:
thank you vrey much, csoulr666, for answering !!
Unfortunately there are still answer details left...
To 1: What is it that makes the space bigger? Isn't it just the data part which normally is very low? (s. www.xda-developers.com/android/cronmod-gives-users-options-of-a2sd-d2ext-int2ext) So I suppose that there would be no big win of space with INT2EXT instead of INT2EXT+. What do you say?
1b.) How can I measure/read and estimate the left telephon space which is too small/missing in my case? (you know, all my storage values are okay currently but I have this problem anyway!)
1c.) What happens if I move apps to SD card by Options/Apps although INT2EXT+ is working?... And can this help?
T0 2: Again, could you please explain why exactly the speed reduction appears? I don't understand this. (isn't the data part of an app also loaded in the fast RAM when started. So isn't it more a question of available RAM than speed?...)
To 3: This is very bad news. It would mean much work for me if I really had to reinstall the ROM.
So are you pretty sure? Did you try already? I e.g. could imagine that there might be an extra transfer/exchange script from the author. Or a script exchange is already supported by the scripts. Oe.
See, the INT2EXT would also move the data part. So as this is NOT done yet (INT2EXT+) the new script (INT2EXT) would just have to complete this by moving them also to SD. I would imagine that this should work, shouldn't it?
3b.) Do you know where the script is located?... And shouldn't a new flash just overwrite it (both are very simular anyway!)? (maybe it can be done manually as well??...)
To 4: Isn't that strange? How can that happen? Why do you say 'sometimes'? Own experiences?
What can be the reason for this sometime problem?... How can I double-check that? Or is there maybe any option necessary to say the system to re-read the storage values?... Or... Who else can I ask?
Which phone do you have and which scripts did you try already?
If you cannot answer some questions... Can I reach the writer of the INT2EXT scripts maybe?... (if I may write him under [email protected] ?...)
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1. What happens is that the internal memory is moved and linked to the 2nd partition you created on the SDcard. The scripts vary on the basis of what parts of the memory(system files, data files) are being transferred and how it is transferred to the EXT partition.
1b. I can't seem to estimate the storage left in any way I tried, so can't help you there.
1c. This COULD help, but I'm not quite sure about that.
2. The SDcard has a slower speed as compared to the Flash memory on your phone. INT2EXT+ tends to rectify this by leaving the app data(/data/data) on the internal memory. So if the app data size reaches close to the actual internal memory, you will get low memory errors.
3. As I mentioned in 1 above, the scripts vary on how the linking is done, so it would only make it worse if you just remove the script and add a new one.
3b. The scripts are located in "/system/etc/init.d". See 3 above for the rest of the answer.
4. I have never been able to find the solution to the problem, too much apps, script causing problems.......... I don't know.
My phones are mentioned in the Signature. I have tried nearly every EXT script(Link2sd, INT2EXT,INT2EXT+, mount2sd etc) with the WFS.
thank you again for your good and detailed explanations and your patience!!
To 1): Okay, thank you anyway. In average it seems as if the limitation ist just about 700 MB for WFS. And if all data files are transferred to the SD card the internal storage will not be filled at all, right? So the space for downloaded apps seems to be limited only by the size of the SD card, right? Remark: Would be perfect if it could be selected during app installation where the data sector of the app should be transferred to. But this does not seem to be possible by a script, is it?...
To 2): Okay, that's what I know - the much slower SD card. I mean how can I estimate if an app which uses data files needs to access them often or not?... Would be good if I could estimate that before I use/choose an app.
To3): Okay, understand. However I did it, overwriting the old script. Booting was possible but there was no change at all.
4.) You wrote that you tried so many scripts... So which is your conclusion? Which INT2EXT script do you use today?...
4b.) And is there any reason why there is no script INT2EXTV2 (without '+')? Cause I would like to use Linux swap and need more than 750 MB memory for my downloaded apps.
Or where can I get this script maybe ?...
Another problem I have...
5.) I tried to install the actual CM11 (cm-11-20141004-NIGHTLY-marvel) with INT2EXT but I cannot boot again after I additionally flashed GAPPS (Gapps-KK-4.4.0-Signed): endless loading. (I followed the original installation instruction!!)
How can that be? I suppose that the reason is that my storage size for the system part is too low. But the email app is already missing in this ROM... Isn't that strange? Did this happen to you as well already?... What can I do?...
5b.) Now I am in the situation that I can choose between CM9, CM10 and CM11. Which one would you suggest most?
Remark: CM11 seems to make problems and e.g. its storage management does not work: at 'Android options/storage' it does not show the sizes (endless calculation...), launcher is more circumstancial, etc. Up to now I used CM9 which worked quite well - but it is old. Maybe CM10?...
Or isn't it the most actual one? How can I find?...
Thank you again for your good feedback!!
Falk2 said:
thank you again for your good and detailed explanations and your patience!!
To 1): Okay, thank you anyway. In average it seems as if the limitation ist just about 700 MB for WFS. And if all data files are transferred to the SD card the internal storage will not be filled at all, right? So the space for downloaded apps seems to be limited only by the size of the SD card, right? Remark: Would be perfect if it could be selected during app installation where the data sector of the app should be transferred to. But this does not seem to be possible by a script, is it?...
To 2): Okay, that's what I know - the much slower SD card. I mean how can I estimate if an app which uses data files needs to access them often or not?... Would be good if I could estimate that before I use/choose an app.
To3): Okay, understand. However I did it, overwriting the old script. Booting was possible but there was no change at all.
4.) You wrote that you tried so many scripts... So which is your conclusion? Which INT2EXT script do you use today?...
4b.) And is there any reason why there is no script INT2EXTV2 (without '+')? Cause I would like to use Linux swap and need more than 750 MB memory for my downloaded apps.
Or where can I get this script maybe ?...
Another problem I have...
5.) I tried to install the actual CM11 (cm-11-20141004-NIGHTLY-marvel) with INT2EXT but I cannot boot again after I additionally flashed GAPPS (Gapps-KK-4.4.0-Signed): endless loading. (I followed the original installation instruction!!)
How can that be? I suppose that the reason is that my storage size for the system part is too low. But the email app is already missing in this ROM... Isn't that strange? Did this happen to you as well already?... What can I do?...
5b.) Now I am in the situation that I can choose between CM9, CM10 and CM11. Which one would you suggest most?
Remark: CM11 seems to make problems and e.g. its storage management does not work: at 'Android options/storage' it does not show the sizes (endless calculation...), launcher is more circumstancial, etc. Up to now I used CM9 which worked quite well - but it is old. Maybe CM10?...
Or isn't it the most actual one? How can I find?...
Thank you again for your good feedback!!
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1) I think so, but considering not much of the files are transferred, it will make a slight difference instead of a big one. And no, all the scripts I know of do not provide the option to select the sector to install to during the installation of an app. That would actually defeat the purpose of the script to be easy to use. Beginners will have a hard time if they are provided with millions of options.
2) I don't think you can estimate that. You will then need to create estimates for every kind of app(and there are a LOT kinds of them)
3) Overwriting a script with another would either not work or will cause problems.
4)I was using INT2EXT4 recently but will not use anymore scripts because the WFS isn't my primary device anymore. So I don't require much apps to be installed on it.
4b) You will have to ask the developer of the scripts that. He will clear you on that more.
5) That could be because of the Gapps, what was the size of the Gapps you installed? If you are using the one from Goo.im or PA's site then you need to switch to a lite version of Gapps.
5b) I personally use CM9 or CM10.1 if I want stability. CM10 has it's fair share of bugs since it hasn't received as much time as the CM 9 and 10.1. In then end it is upto you to decide which ROM suits you more.
to 1.) I think Link2SD is supporting this (selected data location)... It is easy to handle (you decide once just before installation of an app)!
to 4.) Have you been satisfied with INT2EXT4 ? Maybe it is not my last change from EXT3 to EXT4, I don't know... But my CM11 version now runs in some way unstable. S. below.
to 4b.) I asked Croniccorey already but unfortunately he did not answer yet...
to 5.) Gapps-KK-4.4.0-Signed is said to be already a lite version. So I cared for that. The size: 15.2 MB. Is that okay? If so then we have a strange problem here, don't we?
Meanwhile I did the following: I did not flash both (Rom AND INT2EXT4 script) within one boot as advised everywhere. And this time GooglePlay suddenly appeared. It seems to be included in the Rom but before (Rom and script in ONE boot) did definitly NOT appear. Strange, isn't it?...
So this time it was not necessary to flash GAPPS so that this problem was shipped around.
But this CM11 with INT2EXT4 (before CM9 and INT2EXT+ which was quite fast and stable (but limited to 720 MB Apps)) is not that stable AND boots at least double the time than CM9!!
During installation/configuration of CM11 and lots of apps there were a lot of crashes. E.g. I started Skype four times or GoogleMaps twice (after installation) before they did not crash during their start.
I wanted to give up already but after all that it now the apps which need big resources run acceptable.
Now they crash only when there are too much processes at one time. E.g. if more than 4 pictures of WhatsApp (which s.o. has sent to me) are loaded. Or if there is a heavy background process running and I scroll some content of another app.
I doubt if this is what you ment with unstable (of CM11)!?
6.) Do you have any idea where this kind of unstability comes from?...
And which kind of unstability did you realise at CM11?...
But again, maybe it is just my change from EXT3 to EXT4. Maybe I did not select the right settings, like cluster size, ...!?
would be perfect if you or s.o. else would comment my experiences soon.
I really don't know right now what is normal here and what I would have to accept so far...
meanwhile I could answer my questions and problems by myself by long tries, as nobody seemed to know it here...
To 1.) Yes, Link2SD seems to be just the same as INT2EXT scripts (but here you need to pay for a none-'+'-version: app data are only linked to SD with Link2SD plus version) but you can control at each installed app if also app DATA are moved to SD or not. And you have a comfortable UI where you can manage everything. You can even switch off the linking. At INT2EXT there is no chance: if you want to change anything you have to reinstall your whole ROM !!
To 2.) I could not realise a very remarkable reduction of speed between INT2EXT4+ and INT2EXT4. Sometimes the start or change of apps (taskmanager) was a bit slower. So if you use a class 10 SD card and you want no app installation limitations I suggest not to use the INT2EXT plus version. Maybe the solution is LINK2SD anyway!...
To 3.) The perfect solution here is the app Link2SD (s. GooglePlay).
To 4.) My CM11 ROM now runs stable. Solution: I reinstalled it and flashed it with 'SuperWipeMarvelEdition' first. Really unbelievable but that helped!
To 5.+6.) Also these problems were solved with 'SuperWipeMarvelEdition'. Now the flashing of GAPPS worked fine.
To 5b.) My CM11 version runs also quite well. It might be a bit slower but not much. But it is quite big and lots of system functions are missing. E.g. Google Weather & News, Email, Talk, etc. Its GAPPS is too small. An INT2EXT PLUS version is impossible here as you have just 30 MB internal storage left! You have to search for all the apps and install them additionally. Unfortunately I could not find any pool where all those missing apps are collected for download. Very sad! Does anybody know?... (what I found only: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917411 )
Point 4b) I still could not answer. Nobody seems to know and Croniccorey unfortunately does not give any life sign...