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Question... Is there a chance to kill tasks while swiping apps away in Recent Apps menu.
Would be much more simple to swipe app and kill process at the same time. Is it possible to implement that in any rom?
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winrris said:
Question... Is there a chance to kill tasks while swiping apps away in Recent Apps menu.
Would be much more simple to swipe app and kill process at the same time. Is it possible to implement that in any rom?
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It does not kill apps. It just hides them from the multitasking menu.
I'm sure there will be custom ROMs that give you an "X" to kill them from the menu, but this is definitely not the case in the stock ROM.
Lets got get into this again but... you do not need a task killer for Android anymore.
winrris said:
Question... Is there a chance to kill tasks while swiping apps away in Recent Apps menu.
Would be much more simple to swipe app and kill process at the same time. Is it possible to implement that in any rom?
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It's possible that when you swipe apps away in the Recent Apps switcher, the apps swiped away are marked for the first ones to be killed when Android needs to reclaim memory. I think that would make sense - there's no immediate need to kill the apps you swipe away as long as there's free memory, but when more apps are opened in the future and some background apps need to be killed, the ones that you swiped away get killed first. Still waiting on someone to test this theory though.
It will "kill" apps in the "cached background process" category.. but not in the "running apps" category in my experience.
If you open the gmail app and hit the home button and you go to settings>apps>running apps>show cached processes you'll see gmail in the list..
From there, hit the "multitasking" button and swipe gmail away, as the screen is transparent, you can see gmail disappear from the list a second after you swipe it away.
I suspect it is more requesting that the OS terminate a particular background process.. more like a "Hey, the user doesn't want you open right now. Can you go ahead and leave memory?" rather than an outright killing of the process.
I'm thinking that if users believe they are killing unwanted processes by swiping them away that they won't feel the "need" to download a task killer.. plus, swiping is a fun gesture
Andrmgic said:
It will "kill" apps in the "cached background process" category.. but not in the "running apps" category in my experience.
If you open the gmail app and hit the home button and you go to settings>apps>running apps>show cached processes you'll see gmail in the list..
From there, hit the "multitasking" button and swipe gmail away, as the screen is transparent, you can see gmail disappear from the list a second after you swipe it away.
I suspect it is more requesting that the OS terminate a particular background process.. more like a "Hey, the user doesn't want you open right now. Can you go ahead and leave memory?" rather than an outright killing of the process.
I'm thinking that if users believe they are killing unwanted processes by swiping them away that they won't feel the "need" to download a task killer.. plus, swiping is a fun gesture
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Haha, oh wow, so it actually does kill apps. Can't believe everyone who's been discussing this feature has been wrong so far. Man, what are the odds that everyone has so far only tried to swipe away foreground, visible, and service processes, and you are the first one to try to swipe away background processes.
Does anyone know of any mods to allow the force closing of apps from the ICS task switcher by swiping to the side? This would be rather useful - certainly more useful than the current behavior of just hiding the running app in the switcher.
Maybe we could have swiping one way keeps the current behaviour and swiping the other way closes the app?
Thanks!
T
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I was just wondering this a few days ago, I thought that swiping them closed the app but obviously not. I would love this feature too!
If I start the XDA app and open a forum I can switch back to that screen through the task switcher or by clicking the app icon. But when I close XDA through the task switcher it restarts when I click the app icon (showing splash screen).
To me it looks like the XDA app gets termintated when I close it in the task switcher.
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If I start the XDA app and open a forum I can switch back to that screen through the task switcher or by clicking the app icon. But when I close XDA through the task switcher it restarts when I click the app icon (showing splash screen).
To me it looks like the XDA app gets termintated when I close it in the task switcher.
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+ 1 on this. I'm pretty sure it ends the task when you swipe it away
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no it doesn't...
u can still see the process running...
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I'm pretty sure apps are unaffected by the switcher - there are just some apps that close automatically when they are "minimized".
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I think apps are affected in some way by the switcher. Try to open the market, go to my apps, press the home button and launch the market again : it's still on the my apps screen.
Now press the home button, "close" the market by swiping from the task switcher, and reopen it : it starts on the main screen, and not on the my apps screen.
From the app switcher: long press an app -> app info - force stop ... and is out of memory and closed for good.
ro_explorer said:
From the app switcher: long press an app -> app info - force stop ... and is out of memory and closed for good.
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Yeah - I guess what I'd like is for the swipe to give that behavior every time. It doesn't seem to consistently do that.
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Here's my test using SystemPanel. You can follow along to verify.
Open Market -> Press Home -> Open SystemPanel
Result: Market is in "Active Applications" category
Press Home -> Open Market -> Press Back so I'm at Home Screen -> Open SystemPanel
Result: Market is in "Inactive (Cached) Applications" category
Press Home -> Open Market -> Press Home -> Swipe Market away in Task Switcher -> Open SystemPanel
Result: Market is not found in neither "Active Applications" nor "Inactive (Cached) Applications" categories
So my conclusion: Swiping apps away in Task Switcher has stronger effect than pressing back all the way until you're at home screen. It will kill the app/process (but the process may restart itself)
luffyp said:
Here's my test using SystemPanel. You can follow along to verify.
Open Market -> Press Home -> Open SystemPanel
Result: Market is in "Active Applications" category
Press Home -> Open Market -> Press Back so I'm at Home Screen -> Open SystemPanel
Result: Market is in "Inactive (Cached) Applications" category
Press Home -> Open Market -> Press Home -> Swipe Market away in Task Switcher -> Open SystemPanel
Result: Market is not found in neither "Active Applications" nor "Inactive (Cached) Applications" categories
So my conclusion: Swiping apps away in Task Switcher has stronger effect than pressing back all the way until you're at home screen. It will kill the app/process (but the process may restart itself)
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Same observation here. It most definitely closes apps.
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Android already has a rather aggressive task manager that closes apps when necessary. Apps running in the background helps Android run more efficiently instead of force closing everything all of the time.
Google left this feature out intentionally for a reason.
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mb02 said:
Google left this feature out intentionally for a reason.
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yeah, but you must admit, it does seem like a very good idea... would be good to minimize the amount of processes running and thus have less drain on the battery.
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Tasks in memory shouldn't perform any functions, and they shouldn't drain the battery at all. Having empty memory takes the same amount of power as having full memory, except full memory caches your frequently used apps so they open quickly.
Processes, on the other hand, don't end when you press back all the way. They are what apps use to perform scheduled tasks in the background. Things like push notifications.
You shouldn't ever need to end a process. If you have an app which is wasting your battery with its background process, uninstall the app and stop using it.
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yeah, but you must admit, it does seem like a very good idea... would be good to minimize the amount of processes running and thus have less drain on the battery.
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On the contrary, constantly keeping RAM free of apps is counterproductive to battery efficiency. Apps are saved in RAM in order to be called back up quickly in the future when they are "closed", saving the CPU usage of completely reopening apps every time you go to use them again. When RAM is getting full, the least used apps are terminated. Apps saved to RAM don't drain battery, they sit there on pause. The only battery drainers are background services and syncs. RAM is meant to be used, not kept empty at all times for no reason. It is the placeholder for programs to be called to the CPU, nothing is really run from RAM.
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If you think the app is consuming CPU in the background when you don't intend it to, uninstall it and report to the developer. This is a flaw in the app design.
Force Close does not help in this case as let's say if the app has a service, the service will be killed and restarted immediately. And the app state will reset just the same as swiping.
jd1001 said:
I was just wondering this a few days ago, I thought that swiping them closed the app but obviously not. I would love this feature too!
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A Google Developer answered this on Google+, essentially, swiping out the app in App Switcher is the same as hitting the back button to exit.
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A Google Developer answered this on Google+, essentially, swiping out the app in App Switcher is the same as hitting the back button to exit.
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I actually thought Matias Duarte himself agreed that it does in fact close the app.
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I have the phone in Airplane mode with no wifi overnight and I am losing 30% battery. I notice that OS is using more than 50% battery. How can I lower that? I noticed Google Maps and the Weather Channel were running since I bought the phone, even though I "close" most task by swiping away.
Swiping does close, you can see the app terminate in the logcat
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It would seem logical that swiping an app up not only removes it from the "recent apps" list, but should also close the app. However after swiping an app up I can still see it running in "Task Manager". So I'm not sure what swiping an app does at all? Any ideas?
Swiping from task manager is the same as closing it using the back button.
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joshnichols189 said:
Swiping from task manager is the same as closing it using the back button.
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You cannot swipe in the Task Manager. You can close the app by pressing the [X]. I'm talking about the "Recent Apps" list which is accessible by pressing the right hard button.
That's what I meant. Swiping in the recent apps list is the same as closing with the back button.
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I think it just removes it from the recent apps menu, but leaves the process running. Try playing music and then swipe the music app up in the recent apps menu. It continues playing.
I think it was designed to navigate quickly between apps, not to be a task manager.
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I think it just removes it from the recent apps menu, but leaves the process running. Try playing music and then swipe the music app up in the recent apps menu. It continues playing.
I think it was designed to navigate quickly between apps, not to be a task manager.
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Actually, it does kill processes, you swipe the App away basically telling Android It's okay to kill it.
and it doesn't kill Music because that's an Ongoing process that you see in the Navigation Bar which must be exempted, it will just re-Appear in the list.
I'm quite sure it will kill the process instead of just remove it from the list.
I think it's just like the Task Manager , +the design and graphic things.
Pardon my blasphemy.
Anywho....i do wish they would revert back to the standard recent apps menu.
ozaghloul said:
It would seem logical that swiping an app up not only removes it from the "recent apps" list, but should also close the app. However after swiping an app up I can still see it running in "Task Manager". So I'm not sure what swiping an app does at all? Any ideas?
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Swiping offscreen in Recent Apps should close the app if it's running. But just being the Recent Apps list doesn't necessarily mean it's still in memory. The HTC Task Manager isn't really a good snapshot of the current applications in memory, some items, like Gmail, rarely show up. Take a look at the Tasks tab in "Android System Info" for a more accurate view of backgrounded apps.
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I think it just removes it from the recent apps menu, but leaves the process running. Try playing music and then swipe the music app up in the recent apps menu. It continues playing.
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Actually it does remove the Music app (UI) from memory, the player service is still running.
maniacaus said:
Anywho....i do wish they would revert back to the standard recent apps menu.
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Yup, this is the thing I miss most from plain ICS (don't like the Settings in Sense either, but that's cosmetic). This task switcher wastes alot of screen real estate, and the canted screenshots reminds me of HTC TouchFLO from my old WinMo phones, looks out of place compared with the rest of the UI.
TommUK said:
Actually, it does kill processes, you swipe the App away basically telling Android It's okay to kill it.
and it doesn't kill Music because that's an Ongoing process that you see in the Navigation Bar which must be exempted, it will just re-Appear in the list.
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This, exactly. The music app along with other ongoing processes that you can see in the nav bar are exceptions, but other applications get killed.
How can you test this? Well, fire up Opera Mobile. Now swipe Opera Mobile up. Then fire up Opera Mobile again. You'll see Opera's splash screen again, indicating that it is starting up all over again, which it wouldn't do if it would've been running in the background.
my guess is that if you swipe it from the "Recent Apps" section Android waits for all its processing to complete before it runs its cleanup procedures
Though I would like to know what are all the apps that can be removed off the HOX so that I can get more free RAM space currently always sitting on 600MB in use
is there such a list?
cos I dont want to brick my baby
jinkira said:
my guess is that if you swipe it from the "Recent Apps" section Android waits for all its processing to complete before it runs its cleanup procedures
Though I would like to know what are all the apps that can be removed off the HOX so that I can get more free RAM space currently always sitting on 600MB in use
is there such a list?
cos I dont want to brick my baby
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RAM is meant to be used.
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Understandable, but I dont want to use so much.. I am still old school when it comes to memory usage and keeping as much free as possible untill needed
so I just want a list of BLOATWARE that is ok to uninstall
Hi guys,
Im really new to Android since Note 2 is my 1st android phone (i juz have bought it for 2 days).
I have read several articles over internet which say that shouldn't use the Task killer application (3rd party app) but how about the task manager in Note 2, which provide us some functions like clear ram and end active application?
Should we use this task manager to clear up ram or kill the running app?
Thank you so much
You really shouldn't need a task manager. A few updates ago Android integrated a feature that closes running programs once memory is low. Not to mention the fact that with 2gb ram I don't you will experience lag due to too many running applications.
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You never know when you'll need to close a bad app, or see if a process has gone nuts. I use SystemPanel and highly recommend it.
Thank you so much
Another question is when i hold the home button, there is a dustbin icon so what is the function of this one?
And i still dont understand about 2 things in task manager. 1 is end the active app and another is clear ram. What is the difference between those 2?
When you hold the home button from the home screen and see the garbage can icon that is the task killer. I use it all the time as draw something and maybe words with friends use alot of battery. Plus draw something locks up all the time and I need to kill it. U can also individually kill apps by swiping the ones that show up in the list when you press and hold the home button.
Cpu z tells me theres like 300mb ram free..seems very low..so any way to kill apps
russy23 said:
Cpu z tells me theres like 300mb ram free..seems very low..so any way to kill apps
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Killing apps is not a good idea. If you mean you want a normal Android Task Switcher that lets you close apps (Recents), then you can, for instance, use Nova Launcher and set the home button to open the Recents. You can also install the app Swipe for convenient app switching and managing. Swiping will switch apps, but a double tap on the side of the screen can also act to open Recents.
If you are looking for a way to better manage apps running in the background, then start using Greenify. It is less potent without root, but still a great and healthy way to stop apps from continually running in the background and thus improve your performance and possible memory issues. Android is built to take advantage of memory though, so don't be alarmed by low numbers of available free RAM.
Yes, Greenify is the way. You can even hibernate automatically without root by using a replacement lock screen with its own security. That way you don't put a pin/password on the system lock screen, allowing Greenify to auto hibernate without leaving the phone vulnerable.
If you double click the home button it opens the recent/kill app menu. Click on an app to go it or swipe it upwards to close it.
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