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Anyone use nfc? I still have yet to find a use for it. If you use it then what do you do with it. If you don't then do you feel it is useless?
at least we have it... some dont
Not using it yet.....
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Yeah, for now it's pretty useless in the U.S. Other countries are using it though, we have just fallen behind as far as NFC goes.
NFC doesn't seem to work with CM7 on my phone, it just straight doesn't turn on. I haven't seen it in the list of "not working" stuff in the threads, but I'm not sure what I'd do with it yet, so I'm not too worried
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
tcboo said:
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I've been playing with it also with simple routine stuff like this. As soon as I get more tags i'm going to make some for checkins at my favorite hangouts... etc. But to date the most useful tasks I use NFC are checking the balance on my Clipper Card and Door entry access.
I've been trying the ports of CM7 but as soon as I've checked it out I bounce back to a backup because it won't work under CM7 and I need that door entry access.
Cheers
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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tcboo said:
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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Ty for link and advice! cool now i know what i can use it for
noodles2224 said:
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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that´s not right, in the us you can already pay at Mc Donalds with nfc (Nexus S 4g). For example in Germany, we don´t even have nfc phones.
Is it some becauze I dont anything, anywhere that nfc ready in cali
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It's useless, I just turn it off...not worth mentioning if a phone even has it.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
OverDrive33 said:
It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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what do Euros and Asians use NFC for?
If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.[/QUOTE said:
That is very true, everything comes first with iPhones. Just example, iPhone can start up some cars that are synced with.. Android doesn't have an app like that..
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jessejames111981 said:
It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Worst part is iphone users will act like apple pioneered and invented NFC.
I disagree. I think you will see a lot of the users of older iPhones will upgrade and if NFC is incorporated into the phone those pesky Apple Fanboys you love to deride will be advocates for the cause. The monolithic platform will work in it's favor unlike Android phones that have NFC built in and functional but crippled because the platform is fragmented by the carriers. All those users coming online at once will be what gets us to critical mass... but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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I disagree. I have an all out apple fanboy at work that swears the drop down notification bar was invented by apple even though it just got implemented in ios5. Swears that apple pioneered 4g. Invented the touchscreen. And a few others.
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even apple claims they invented a single button and rounded edges.
https://plus.google.com/112413860260589530492/posts/ikqmhF4v7a8
Probably because 98% of these rumors are complete BS.
More like 100% BS. Scroll down to the comments by "hoaxer".
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-of-the-week-93012-10712/#comment-675183270 …
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More like 100% BS. Scroll down to the comments by "hoaxer".
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-of-the-week-93012-10712/#comment-675183270 …
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I don't know why, but I find this hilarious. Thanks for sharing :good:
I don't find it hilarious at all. Once these "rumors" get out people are going to keep spreading them and then when the actual next Nexus and OS is announced people are going to complain that feature x isn't in there when it was supposed to be.
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I don't find it hilarious at all. Once these "rumors" get out people are going to keep spreading them and then when the actual next Nexus and OS is announced people are going to complain that feature x isn't in there when it was supposed to be.
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Wrong. Because only fools take rumors as truth anyway.
Lol thanks for sharing this
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Very funny
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http://androidandme.com/2012/10/news/retraction-recent-android-4-2-rumors-were-fake/
Of course they retracted that story. It made no sense to me. Google wouldn't create a "customization center" for Nexus devices to run a alternate UI. If I was a Googler, I would of been laughing at that too.
rumors are great; i still get the iMorons coming into my store going "hey can you show me the new holographic keyboard on the 5?"
sigh.
An end to fragmentation, better battery life, widespread adoption of AOSP in high end devices... it all seemed too good to be true.
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jayochs said:
rumors are great; i still get the iMorons coming into my store going "hey can you show me the new holographic keyboard on the 5?"
sigh.
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Lol all because of some dumb two year old YouTube video.
I can't believe people bought that, can you believe how precise of a proximity sensor you would need for that and the cost that would entail?
nobody wants a 5000 phone I bet
crixley said:
Lol all because of some dumb two year old YouTube video.
I can't believe people bought that, can you believe how precise of a proximity sensor you would need for that and the cost that would entail?
nobody wants a 5000 phone I bet
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Apple users are retarded enough to pay that much for a phone
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crixley said:
Lol all because of some dumb two year old YouTube video.
I can't believe people bought that, can you believe how precise of a proximity sensor you would need for that and the cost that would entail?
nobody wants a 5000 phone I bet
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It does exist as an accessory (and it has for some time) so it's not that farfetched.
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More like 100% BS. Scroll down to the comments by "hoaxer".
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-of-the-week-93012-10712/#comment-675183270 …
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Wow, this was epic. I like seeing the thought process behind this kind of troll.
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It does exist as an accessory (and it has for some time) so it's not that farfetched.
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Did you read what I wrote?
I never said it was "that farfetched", but that it would be ludicrously costly at this time to put into a phone.
I'm an electrical engineer, I know extremely precise proximity sensors exist but I also know that they aren't cheap.
So I got the 10 pack + keychain kit from tagsfordroids.com. So far, the only real uses I have found were one for work and one for home. When I get my Bluetooth carkit thing from Dice Electronics this weekend, I may go ahead and program the keychain as well so the phone will connect to the car and such once I am in it. I am using NFC Task Launcher to program to tags.
I was wondering if anyone else uses NFC tags and for what uses?
I just got a few and do the same. I have one where I come home it turns on certain features, I have one in the car that turns on bluetooth, and one on my keychain that turns off WiFi, BT and a bunch of other stuff to save battery while I'm out. It would be even easier if someone would hack our nfc.apk so the setttings would apply at the lock screen or while screen off.
I use AnyTAG (free market app). It doesn't actually write the NFC tag, just reads the ID number from it (so you can still reuse "locked" tags). Would highly recommend it if you're the only person using your tags.
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It would be even easier if someone would hack our nfc.apk so the setttings would apply at the lock screen or while screen off.
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This was one of the first things I noticed immediately. Yeah, we know it's not much more to unlock the phone first, but would be soooo convenient.
I am moving this from General to Q&A because well, its a question. But I am very interested in how to use these better. It is a function out there for these phone that I think is not tapped enough. Maybe this thread will generate more information on the subject.
Thanks for the move. I struggled with whether is belonged in Q&A or not.
You have to unlock the phone to use them?? From a security standpoint I guess that's good but for convenience it almost makes them pointless.
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You have to unlock the phone to use them?? From a security standpoint I guess that's good but for convenience it almost makes them pointless.
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I wouldn't say pointless. They can be programmed like a batch file, performing multiple tasks, not just a single function, but I agree that being able to do them with the phone locked would be nice.
I suppose though from a security standpoint, it does make more sense, didn't think of potentially harmful NFC uses.
For me its not worth buying tags for something I can just take a couple seconds to do or automate with tasker.
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For me its not worth buying tags for something I can just take a couple seconds to do or automate with tasker.
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Others have said this, and I simply say "6 in one, half dozen in the other"... really just a preference at this point. In the meantime, I would like to keep this thread going as a discussion of uses for it, not reason to not get them.
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This was one of the first things I noticed immediately. Yeah, we know it's not much more to unlock the phone first, but would be soooo convenient.
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I thought it was done already?
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I thought it was done already?
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...? Where did you see that? And can it be done on a stock SG3 (not rooted or anything...)?
FWIW, here is a small 8 min video I just saw when I was looking for something else about some of the functions of NFC. He is using the same NFC launcher app that you are using as well. But also talks about how some Samsung NFC tags won't work with Nexus 4 but do obviously with GNex.
It is from Gigaom, off the Reuters news site.
http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/1...-phone-an?videoId=239430247&videoChannel=3400
Can't watch it while at work so I will check it later, but I have heard of some tags having weird incompatibilities and such. Every now and then, when formatting a tag or programming, I will get the weird error about the tag's memory being too small. Not sure if thats what the video is getting at, but I will check it when I get home.
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Can't watch it while at work so I will check it later, but I have heard of some tags having weird incompatibilities and such. Every now and then, when formatting a tag or programming, I will get the weird error about the tag's memory being too small. Not sure if thats what the video is getting at, but I will check it when I get home.
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Check this out. NFC without unlocking and screen of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709586
and this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27442604&postcount=33
Those seem fine and dandy, but would be nice if these could be applied to non-rooted folks. This is the first Android I have had where I did root and went back to stock as the stock software was just about perfect for me.
Thinking of getting some tectiles and wanted to know you guys experiences with them?
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Thinking of getting some tectiles and wanted to know you guys experiences with them?
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It was cool, but I dont really use them like I hoped I would
I got a set but I've only played with them. It's a neat novelty but at the cost not really practical. If they were cents each rather than dollars I might use them more.
Just register your phone on Samsung.com and you'll get a 50% off coupon...buy your TecTiles with that. I have mine by the door to toggle WiFi, in the bathroom to launch Play Music, and by the toilet to launch YouTube.
I use mine a lot, but my only gripe is that the phone has to be on and unlocked in order for it to work...but its better than nothing I guess.
I have thought about putting one in the living room for guests to use to connect to WiFi without asking for the password.
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There.....Meh....
I got them for 50% off, so the price was more of a non point for me. Honestly though, I've only used one of them and then sort of forgot about them. They're nothing you can't just do as well on the phone itself. Fun to show off for a second I guess.
I got 10 of them off eBay for under 11bucks but only found my self using 3 of them lol they cool to play with but i hardly find my self using it everyday lol
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and by the toilet to launch YouTube.
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srsly? lmfao :laugh:
the way you set up yours are exactly the reasons why I didn't get any. couldn't think of any legitimate uses for them.
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couldn't think of any legitimate uses for them.
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How is that not legitimate? Oh that's right, that is simply an opinion. Luckily, I live in America, and I am free to choose what is legitimate for my needs. I guess you missed the connect to WiFi without having to scrummage through to find the password.
What are your expectations? You want it to brew, make, and deliver your coffee to you in the morning?
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How is that not legitimate? Oh that's right, that is simply an opinion. Luckily, I live in America, and I am free to choose what is legitimate for my needs.
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woah buddy, lighten up, lol. of course that was "an opinion", and mine obviously. sorry that I think having an NFC tag setup to launch YT when I'm taking dump is ridiculous. if you don't want conversations that are inherently going to have opinions, and possibly opinions that are not yours, don't post in a public forum, maybe?
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I guess you missed the connect to WiFi without having to scrummage through to find the password.
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and while that sounds great, NFC is not ubiquitious enough to make that worthwhile. in my opinion.
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What are your expectations? You want it to brew, make, and deliver your coffee to you in the morning?
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no... just want to it things I would expect a phone to do. I'm not even sure how that statement is a "witty comeback", as it's contextually nonsense.
seriously, relax.
Not ubiquitous because people like you keep saying it isn't. Buy it, try it out...you may find something interesting that will intrigue another to do the same. My local mall uses NFC to give out free songs or magazine articles. What's a couple of bucks gonna hurt? You already bought a $300+ phone...might as well use its features.
You don't have to use the Samsung TecTiles...you can buy any of them, and download an NFC programmable app.
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Not ubiquitous because people like you keep saying it isn't. Buy it, try it out...you may find something interesting that will intrigue another to do the same. My local mall uses NFC to give out free songs or magazine articles. What's a couple of bucks gonna hurt? You already bought a $300+ phone...might as well use its features.
You don't have to use the Samsung TecTiles...you can buy any of them, and download an NFC programmable app.
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lol, fair enough, actually.
believe me, I wish I could think of uses for them that would do something I thought was functional, because gawdamn, the idea is cool. and I do love anything new tech-wise. i'm always an early adopter.
(and I bought the phone outright. $700 bucks w/ tax. worth every damn penny.)
so far, the only implementation I am seeing make NFC worthwhile is sBeam/filesharing, and google wallet (if it worked right now).
I will be keeping a watch on the tech, and I tend to make frivolous purchases (like the AllShare TV dongle), and perhaps I'll keep an eye on you, see if you come up with anything that sparks some ideas.
Anything useful for my personal routine (turning off ringer at work etc.) I have set up in tasker. For little stuff like opening you tube while on toilet, (lol) it just doesnt seem more convienent to tap phone to a tag than to click the app on my homescreen. Tasker really does all of the automation for me for work, my car etc.
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A sprint tech said it (Google Wallet) should come in January, so add 4 months to that.
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Jcossack88 said:
Just register your phone on Samsung.com and you'll get a 50% off coupon...buy your TecTiles with that. I have mine by the door to toggle WiFi, in the bathroom to launch Play Music, and by the toilet to launch YouTube.
I use mine a lot, but my only gripe is that the phone has to be on and unlocked in order for it to work...but its better than nothing I guess.
I have thought about putting one in the living room for guests to use to connect to WiFi without asking for the password.
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Jelly Bomb has nfc with the screen off built in. I tried pulling the Nfc.apk from the 10.20 build and putting it on my own deodexed LJC rom but it didn't allow nfc with the screen off.
One thing that I thought would be useful is if I could set it up as a proximity sensor. Ex: when I put the phone in my car dock it turns on blue tooth and when I take it out it turns it off without having to touch another tag?
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It does with a little tweaking. It took me a little while to get working correctly but there is a how to thread floating around here.
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and google wallet (if it worked right now)
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher
That is the one I use. You can setup toggles with only one nfc label. For example. Scan it and it will turn off the alarm. And if you scan it again it will turn it on. It really expand the uses of the labels. And you can program e series of actions with it. Hope this help you
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We got some demos (and extra for us) at work, it's a tectile arm band, but I could fully program it and everything, my co-worker thought it was cool since he couldn't do it (lol iPhone) so I was thinking about keeping one, never know when I could wanna "wow" a friend
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deerkiller11 said:
One thing that I thought would be useful is if I could set it up as a proximity sensor. Ex: when I put the phone in my car dock it turns on blue tooth and when I take it out it turns it off without having to touch another tag?
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yes, just set it up to Toggle the bluetooth - that way if it's on it will turn off and visa versa.
I have similar setups and it works like a charm.
and the tiles will work with Every phone that has NFC, so even when you get a future phone, the tiles will continue to work. I think they are the bees knees.
they become more useful once you mod the phone to work with nfc screen off (someone posted a mod but it only works from lockscreen not screen off hopefully that will be fixed soon)
I have one each on my washer and dryer. they set a "timer" that goes off and tells me when the washer and dryer are done (30 minutes for washer 70minutes for dryer)
I have one on my car to auto set my car locator position one the dev for car locator gets that working right.
I also plan to use them for geo caching. I hope geocaching.com integrates NFC functionality into their service soon is VERY ideal for that.
I also plan to use them on "bins" in storage. I store what is in the bin in the tag. tap and now I know whats inside (working on that soon)
you can use QR codes but they are a pain (have to load an app) and then wait for camera to focus AND they don't like low light. NFC don't care tap done.
also plan to put on on my Radio Transmitter for my competition rocket gliders. tap and 15minute countdown timer starts.
I've been waiting so long for the NFC Rings to go on sale and now you can pre-order them: http://store.nfcring.com/
Anyone got one already, from the Kickstarter batch? Is it easy to use/worth getting, or is it just fiddly and a pain in the backside?
EDIT: Oh yeah, does it work through a case? I have Diztronic TPU case. If it don't work through that then I won't be interested.
Wow that's a pretty cool idea. I'd imagine it would work through a case. I use android beam between my phone and tablet and they both have cases on them.
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haha, a nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.
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haha, nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.
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Hahah, that's hilarious.
tap, tap, tap, tap..... tap, tap, tap, tap
"Screw it, I'll use the unlock code!"
To decrease battery usage, I switch off BT and NFC. Everytime I have to use this ring, I have to unlock the phone and switch on the NFC and then find the sweet spot. No thanks, sir.
I backed it when I thought it was a novel idea. Now not so much lol. I already gave him my funds, so it's just like a expensive nfc tag lol. I don't have it yet though. I think it's shipping soon.
why not just use the powerbutton LOLOL
This seems kind of pointless to me.
I ordered both the regular ring and the alpha ring through the kickstarter, once they arrive I'll let you know how they work on the nexus 5.
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i think it's only good for NFC doors and sharing contacts, not worth it to use it to unlock phones
I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.
floepie said:
I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.
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No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.
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No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.
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The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.
I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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Motion sensor I assume. It freaked me out the first few times it happened because I didn't know it was an option in the ROM, and I thought my phone had been awake in my pocket. But upon digging through the settings, there is one under Lockscreen > Lockscreen Notifications called Pocket Mode You can set it to always wake the screen whenever you take it out of your pocket, or only wake if there are new notifications. Also it goes back to sleep when you put it in your pocket again. It's pretty dope.
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The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.
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Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).
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Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).
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Are you using the xposed module or is it baked into the rom?
Hey guys, I'm the creator of the NFC Ring, thought I'd just jump on to say thanks for all the comments.
I'd agree with most of your points, you wil find your own use for your NFC Ring, it might not be unlocking your phone for example.. We actually provide all of our source code on github so you can build your own apps on the back of the NFC Ring..
We don't want to box people into specific use cases, we just provide a few example ones to get hackers started with the possibilities.
Just to answer some criticisms directly:
1) It's just two NFC tags on a ring. Pretty much but the amount of R&D that goes into doing that well is actually a lot, RFID and metal don't play well together and we have to build our own antennas specifically for this use case.
2) RE Derek's video, yea he had an initial poor first experience, we ship both a classic and alpha size ring, the alphas sweet spot is larger which makes it more useful for when you can't see the phones sweet spot. After conversations with Derek (read the comments) he does mention he didn't spend any time with the ring before doing a demo and we do encourage people to get used to using the ring. It takes a few days but this is new technology so there is an inherent learning curve..
Overall I'm really proud of what we made with the NFC Ring, it's been a lot of work and we have been completely open about everything and shared everything from day one. We're shipping another 1,000 rings tomorrow and I'm really excited to see what folks hack together. Our job now is to support anyone who wants to build something with their ring, whatever that may be..
If you do wanna engage with the NFC Ring community perhaps nudge some of the community members to jump over here and share their thoughts
We're still a small community but our goals are big Why would you want to keep those pesky unsecure keys that scratch your phone?! That's really what we're at war with..
Thanks again guys, every bit of support really helps and even if we're not the company that provides your NFC Ring I hope we were the ones to at least kickstart things in the right direction with sharing and open-source at the core.