Is there any way to check if we have a bad emmc(?) Chip. I think there was an app for some of the phones. But what about us. I just kinda wanna know, in which case I'll flash the stock boot loader in case of the apocalypse.
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das_webos_transformer said:
Is there any way to check if we have a bad emmc(?) Chip. I think there was an app for some of the phones. But what about us. I just kinda wanna know, in which case I'll flash the stock boot loader in case of the apocalypse.
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No, I had attempted to consolidate information to get an idea, but not enough is available to make an educated guess. There is an app for samsung devices for the hard brick bug, but that's a known range of devices with a known range of revisions provided by samsung. Its also not emmc failure, its a command that it accepts that it can't actually do, and bricks the device.
The ranges for our devices bricking don't seem limited to any generation or batch, they cover up to devices bought a couple of months ago. As a time line...mine was made 2/2012, and was purchased in march, and hasn't bricked. And it should have, a few times now. Devices purchased after mine have bricked, though I don't know if they were used, refurb, or built before or after mine. I haven't yet heard of a repairs unit bricking again, so I would imagine later revisions aren't as prone to the failure as older units. I come to this conclusion simply from the aspect that when they replace the motherboard, its likely a newer revision then the units that were assembled and sold. Refurbs may also possibly be this way, old bricked units that had a new motherboard replaced and then sold as refurbished units, and so may be less prone to the emmc failures.
Thank you, mine was also purchased in that time frame and best buy only had 2 in stock, so mine is either a newer one or they never got newer ones. Either way, thank you for the feedback.
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there are two types of HTC One X out there
1) TRADE ones - usualy they are cheaper with more problems (screen, yellow spots, bad tegra chip, hot as hell) and are usualy sold WW mostly via internet. Usualy they are some sort of "not so good at quality control but we (htc) need money so lets sell them for a lesser amount of money".
2) SELLING ones - they are more expensive and sold by official HTC distibuters and carriers. They have outstanding performance and build quality due to good quality control. But remember, some of SELLING ones can end up with TRADE batch so some might be lucky (I am sorry but AMAZON, EBAY, EXPANSYS have the TRADE ones so you will most likely have some problems with the phone.)
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Just to let you guys know
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Just to let you guys know
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Source of this info please
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Since the serial number sequencing is identical for all devices and there's no differentiation in markings between devices either on the device itself or the box, how pray tell do you suggest HTC's able to know the difference between "good" ones vs. "bad" ones and then direct either to a reseller based on their status?
Hilarious!
I've got to ask, on what grounds can you say this. What evidence is there?
Nah.... That would be an logistical nightmare to have diffrent "types" of phones. I call this conspiracy theory!
Both me and my wife would according to you're statement have "bought" "seller" phones. We both had to exchange them several times for diffrent faults. If the "seller" phones were that bad, I wonder how bad the "trade phones" are!!
Bull**** of the day. Now we can focus on truedat
*smacks head with hand* DOOOOOOONG!!!!
Facepalm xD
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This simply isn't true and scares many ill-informed HOX users.
What IS accurate, and true of most manufacturers is this:
1) Production of a device can change over time - sometimes early units are poorer quality, and sometimes that are BETTER quality.
2) Over time, the manufacturer might discover minor production issues and improve the quality of build to correct certain issues, but also, they can start to source cheaper components in an attempt to cut costs, making later version slightly worse, or just slightly different. We're talking very minor internal changes here, or components (like camera) sourced from another manufacturer - but using same drivers / capabilities etc)
What can also happen is that devices can sometimes be manufactured in more than one factory, and quality might differ very slightly.
The serial numbers of units CAN be sequential, but still allow the manufacturer to know which are 'good' and which are 'bad' units, but selling 'bad' units knowingly at a lower cost (without telling the customer) would be suicide for HTC. They COULD sell them as 'B' grade though.
Nonsense.
Btw i bought my one x on ebay, cheapest i could find, which was 340 quid for a new unlocked unit, and its FLAWLESS. No bugs or defects whatsoever.(sh27)
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What a bunch of crap.
Also, Half Life 3 is going to be released tomorrow. Just to let you guys know
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Also, Half Life 3 is going to be released tomorrow. Just to let you guys know
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Wrong, portal 3 and max payne 4 release tomorrow.
Agree with all above, also WTF is with the size of your Sig?!
Waste of a thread. Can a mod get rid of this please.
Nonsense, the initial batches were a bit problematic but not all devices suffered the issues.
A lot of companies are selling refurbished units for a lower price but hard to state what's actually been refurbished and whether any of the known bugs were resolved.
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Sounds like a load of crap to me
OP, do you have any evidence to backup your claims?
Baloney !
Bought two on Ebay in July, no problem.
International version from well regarded seller in Hong Kong.
ATT version from well regarded US vendor.
Those buying early and/or from shadier vendors are more likely to have problems.
for those who said "this is a myth" "Lies" it actually applies to every cell phone device. I call the defective ones "Flowing water products" (Not sure how they come up with those terms but it is pretty common in china). Those are the devices sold by third rate resellers. That is why they are cheaper to begin with.
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Hello guys. I already have note 2. Has it last two days but yesturday i realize my phone have bad chip (0xf1). Gonna go return it today. I would like to know, how can i buy note 2 with good chip? Because phone is boxed so im not gonna be able use any app on it till it will be mine. Help asap please.
Read the SDS thread, ALL of it, and quit being so lazy. The answers are in there if you bother to look.
I think there is no way other than open box and check phones chip via emmc brickbug check app from play store. I did the same way . I bought my note2 in Dubai and asked seller to check and sell me one with 0xf7 chip. I could buy phone this way from ordinary electronic shop without any warranty. In big malls they do not open box for checking.
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Get the phone of manufacturing of february 13 and above and there is also imei from which we can check whether it is a safer or not ,but there is no surety but newer phones are expected to be of newer chip...
edit-IMEI>3550 and with date of manufacturing Feb, 2013 and expected to be sds safe otherwise you had to check after running the device hope it helps....
It is kinda ironic to know what chip you have inside your phone unless it is open. And the february manufacture date it is also meaningless ( I have a family member who bought one in march with february as manufacturing date and has the same 0xf1 chip).
On a second side, the device it's still quite pricey and it is normal for the shops to refuse opening them to you as they cannot sell them back (take a note from samsung's seal text). Other than that even with the bad chip the device it is fully functional. It is your right indeed to refuse it, but it isn't samsung's problem either. By saying that it also implies that there is no reason for anyone to send the device back to the factory.
With that being said, the only way to find your desired chip, is to trick some shop into opening lots of boxes till you find your note. Not gonna happen if you ask me.
I'm actually surprised the seller agreed to exchange the phone even though they're not obligated to do that, not to mention they won't be able to resell it back as brand new.
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Im living on very small island, everything is possible here!
I've been reading up on all the possible issues so far and the list goes on and on. Is it worth the risk? From random reboots, to even wifi range.
IMO, I think it is worth the risk. I think all the problems are addressable and will eventually be solved either by ASUS/Google or our intrepid developers here. It is really an amazing piece of hardware. It is just going through some teething pains at the moment.
Also, even if you don't like it and even if you exceed the take-back period, I think you would be able to sell it for enough to come close to recovering your cost, so the risk is minimal either way.
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IMO, I think it is worth the risk. I think all the problems are addressable and will eventually be solved either by ASUS/Google or our intrepid developers here. It is really an amazing piece of hardware. It is just going through some teething pains at the moment.
Also, even if you don't like it and even if you exceed the take-back period, I think you would be able to sell it for enough to come close to recovering your cost, so the risk is minimal either way.
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No problem with mine. Poor iPad is gettin dusty though!
No need to worry. I would recommend only buying the tablet from a place that will allow you to easily exchange it. In case you get a unit with dust under the screen or light bleed. I personally had to go through 4 until I had gotten a perfect unit. Hopefully they have worked out the kinks with the new batches shipping out. Just note a good amount of tablet manufacturers, not just Asus, seem to skimp on the quality.
I am really happy with my tablet! It is everything that I need it to be for the price.
Bought mine from Amazon on release day and it's had no issues. I wouldn't be worried...remember that usually the only people to speak up are ones that are having problems. Most people aren't going to come to a forum just to post that their device is working as it should.
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Bought mine from Amazon on release day and it's had no issues. I wouldn't be worried...remember that usually the only people to speak up are ones that are having problems. Most people aren't going to come to a forum just to post that their device is working as it should.
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Agreed. Mine is working great... although my first unit did have faulty speakers... Returned it and exchanged at BB no problem. So not really much to worry about as the return/exchange policies at most reputable places are very good.
From what I've read GPS and multi touch issues might be fixed as long as they're not hardware related. It's very much possible that there are different hardware combinations for different batches of the n7.
How do I know if my unit has a wifi problem out of the box? I live in the Philippines so it's a long way from the US if I have to return it lol! But aside from the note 10.1 2013, there arent really any alternatives to good high end android tablets.
What's going to happen to the million returned Note 7's ?
Landfill or refurbish?
It would be a massive job to open up the phones and replace the battery, and probably not worthwhile for used phones.
But there will be thousands of phones in the distribution channels that have not be sold and are in factory condition. How can someone buying a new Note 7 in say a month's time be sure it hasn't been opened up, battery replaced and repackaged? I wouldn't want one for sure.
Just think - if the battery was still removable like the Note 4 the whole thing would be so much simpler. Send out new batteries, job done.
scrapped for parts?
I'd think most of it would be in near mint condition. So a little bit of cleaning up and resold as new units or refurbished. They did just start this refurbished program very recently.
Seriously? Landfill? Do people think before posting? They are replacing the battery in the units. Then selling refurbished.
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I'd think most of it would be in near mint condition. So a little bit of cleaning up and resold as new units or refurbished. They did just start this refurbished program very recently.
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The same refurbished program that has them selling a refurb T-Mobile S6 edge for $499, while T-Mobile themselves are selling new ones for $499.
Good luck with that, lol.
Selling as refurbished would be fine. But selling as new would not. How would you tell the difference?
Turns into note 8
The refurbished ones would show as such when checked with the proper app.
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Turns into note 8
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Note 8 sounds right for us, maybe not for them.
Fix battery problem, fix GG5 problem = the premium phone it is supposed to be.
I would think they'd examine their batteries to get a full picture of the problem for their own records. Probably they'll exchange the batteries and use them as refurbs after this.
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Depends who sold your phone to you.
I expect Carphone Warehouse will require customers to take their faulty phones to the heart of Mordor and there cast them down in to the fires of Mount Doom, before they'll consider providing a replacement.
And even then it'll be four weeks late.
if they send me a refurb after 3 days use before the recall was announced i'd expect a hefty refund for receipt of a second hand phone! h
I would assume they would come up with a way to read the serial and maker of the battery pack without opening up the phone, then replace only the needed ones.
I'm thinking if they had lot control of the batteries and which phones they were installed in or thought they could be identified via any means they would have done so already and then issued a recall for affected units rather than a global recall. At a guess I would venture that trying to figure out if they could do exactly that accounts for the delay between the global recall and the time it was first determined that batteries were going boom. And yes, they will become refurbs. I hadn't thought of the fact that they could be sent out as replacement units...
I'm wondering what happens to the phones you buy and then return them just cause you didn't like them, what do they do with them? Not just Note, but every phone. Do they resell them?
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I'm wondering what happens to the phones you buy and then return them just cause you didn't like them, what do they do with them? Not just Note, but every phone. Do they resell them?
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most suppliers run their own refurb programs, so they will likely polish them up and sell them on as nearly new. (like when you buy a display model out of a shop)
as for the recalled units, chances are they will use them for parts or refurbish the phones and then use them for warranty claims and such also probably sell some on at a slight discount as certified refurbished phones.
there is just too much cost in the couple of million devices for them just to scrap them, probably way more than it will cost to debond the back replace the battery and rebond the back.
They go to heaven.
locate the faulty , remove
test and check all used recalled one then might just return back to original owner after fixing any issues such as a scratched glass
looking at other issues threads
there is a batch or bad battery
and another batch of a less bad battery since lots have reported lagging and reeboots
thoses will be replaced too
but total healthy units might just come back to you as the fixing process is taking place in each country locally
but yet each country has its trading law , so they work accordingly
thats just my guess coming out from my own overthinkful head ?
Easily refurbished and make money off of them. Samsung hasn't had profits in a bit since the s7 s7edge and the note 7 was doing well, it's a hickup but they are doing the right thing. I read a story from 2009 where a teen girl in uk had a iPhone explode and glass in her eye, Apple said not our fault. Since then tons of cases Apple does nothing. They lawyer up and keep profits.
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I think Isis are going to buy them all
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Hello all,
So basically I've ordered the G4 (actually not knowing about the issue) and I'm picking it up tomorrow. However, what serial numbers are an absolute no-go and , did LG release a new revision? I am aware that 505 is a no-go but what about 601, 607, 608? As far as I'm concerned 608 is the one to have as it does not fail. I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
It's a H815 - Black leather EU version. Now the place I'm buying it from has excellent service so warranty ( 2 years ) is not a problem, although I reaaalllyy don't want to go through the hassle again with my LG being sent back two times for the plastic cracking.
Price is 350 euros ( which is because of the amazing service which I value a lot at the place I'm buying it from.)
I was contemplating the Mate S but it's too slow and no android 7, LG nexus 5X has the same problems and for 50 euros more the LG is much better.
Please help
Well, I had a dual sim version and it went in bootloop 2 weeks back, after trying everything I had to return it to the vendor as it was still under one year warranty, now waiting for their answer, I have always used Samsung, S1, S2, S3, S5 and got G4 as primary phone in Jan16, such issue never happened with Samsung, I still have S2, S3 and S5 and they all run without any problem, I won't get any LG phone ever.
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Well, I had a dual sim version and it went in bootloop 2 weeks back, after trying everything I had to return it to the vendor as it was still under one year warranty, now waiting for their answer, I have always used Samsung, S1, S2, S3, S5 and got G4 as primary phone in Jan16, such issue never happened with Samsung, I still have S2, S3 and S5 and they all run without any problem, I won't get any LG phone ever.
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Can you please share the EAN-code and first three digits of the serial number?
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Hello all,
So basically I've ordered the G4 (actually not knowing about the issue) and I'm picking it up tomorrow. However, what serial numbers are an absolute no-go and , did LG release a new revision? I am aware that 505 is a no-go but what about 601, 607, 608? As far as I'm concerned 608 is the one to have as it does not fail. I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
It's a H815 - Black leather EU version. Now the place I'm buying it from has excellent service so warranty ( 2 years ) is not a problem, although I reaaalllyy don't want to go through the hassle again with my LG being sent back two times for the plastic cracking.
Price is 350 euros ( which is because of the amazing service which I value a lot at the place I'm buying it from.)
I was contemplating the Mate S but it's too slow and no android 7, LG nexus 5X has the same problems and for 50 euros more the LG is much better.
Please help
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pick any from 6XX they are lees likely to bootloop. i have mine 601 its working just fine.
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Hello all,
I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
Please help
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The serial number is written on the sticker on the outside of the box. This will either start with 50X... or 60X...
If it's a 50X model, I would return it without opening the box at all because some of these companies (especially those on Amazon) just hold piles of old stock. Without opening the box, it's an easy return.
I'm using a 60X model and it's a great phone. That said; I have had the occasional flash of static on one side of the screen which was really worrisome at first. It's basically a split second glitch on the screen and is seemingly harmless and only occurs a few times per week. I'm happy to live with that and didn't bother returning the phone.
It may or may not boot loop. Judging from internet though there are very very few reports of 6xx S/N going boot loop. You also have to keep in mind that not all of those reports are real just like with the Samsung explode-gate. There are many ppl who like to report false alerts just because. I don't see too many reports of 6xx going bad. The vast majority of them were the 505's. I blame LG though for all of this. They tried to cover it up never acknowledged it publicly. They sent an email admitting the problem to one Android fan site can't remember which it was and that was all. Meanwhile it took them too long to identify the issue. I don't believe the latest S/N's have this problem. I don't see enough evidence to support this. LG should have come in public and say that they finally fixed it once and for all and say from which S/N and after it's safe. but they didn't. I assume they didn't want to deal with the extra costs of the PR nightmare, the recalls and angry customers and stores.
Alrighty, got myself a 607 version which is great. Black leather with gold buttons, in the beginning I was kinda hesitant because I was expecting the grey buttons but tbh the gold on black looks really classy. Amazing camera. Unfortunately the screen has a yellowish tint to it but I fixed it thanks to this wonderful app Screen balance ( I really was not expecting it to be this good, it basically eliminated the use of a modified kernel because unlike all other apps it runs as an accessibility service.) I will probably post about it.