I rooted my phone a little while back. No custom roms installed or anything. I rooted my device just to use a couple applications that needed root.
Does "rooting" the phone trip the flash counter on the ATT SG3? If so, is there an unroot guide here that takes this into account? I want to be able to send this phone into Samsung should a problem arise.
Thanks!
Jebsauce said:
I rooted my phone a little while back. No custom roms installed or anything. I rooted my device just to use a couple applications that needed root.
Does "rooting" the phone trip the flash counter on the ATT SG3? If so, is there an unroot guide here that takes this into account? I want to be able to send this phone into Samsung should a problem arise.
Thanks!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzydHUG7XZE
Found this video - assuming this will work because it does mention ATT?
Thanks
Run TriangleAway and see what it says your flash counter is.
So... after first being impatient and buying a T-Mobile Note3 on Craigslist to use on AT&T and then later seeing how the bootloader locked AT&T Note3 was rooted by DG and Chainfire I ended up getting a contract renewal with AT&T after all and went with the AT&T Note3.
Now I thought I might try to experiment a little and see if I can replicate that root method on the T-Mobile Note3 because it's so brilliant and doesn't trigger the Know warranty void flag.
I can confirm it works just as well on the T-Mobile Note3 !!
ALL CREDIT for the method goes to DesignGears and Chainfire! The Original Thread is HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
All steps are exactly the same. THIS IS ONLY FOR N900TUVUBMI7 firmware, so that must be the current one installed on your phone.
Please follow all steps in the original AT&T thread, just skip the oneclick.exe and start with flashing the root_de_la_vega.tar using ODIN.
There is not really a need to so this if you already rooted with the AutoRoot method and triggered the Knox flag. This is for the careful guys who have NOT rooted yet, only want root (no custom ROM or recovery) and would rather like to preserve that Know Warranty 0x0 Flag
Link to the needed file for T-Mobile Note3 is HERE:
http://www.electron73.org/XDA/N900T/ROOT_DE_LA_VEGA-TMO.ZIP
Enjoy
Nice! If I wanted to go stock again, can I just flash the stock firmware in odin and it wont trip the knox flag?
lm that guy said:
Nice! If I wanted to go stock again, can I just flash the stock firmware in odin and it wont trip the knox flag?
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Unfortunatley, once you trip the Knox Flag you can't untrip it - doing Odin to Stock will return you to stock but it does not remove the Knox flag...once it's tripped - it's tripped.
mocsab said:
Unfortunatley, once you trip the Knox Flag you can't untrip it - doing Odin to Stock will return you to stock but it does not remove the Knox flag...once it's tripped - it's tripped.
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Oh no I haven't tripped my Knox flag yet I was asking if I use this method to root and I wanted to go back to stock later down the road, Will I trip the Knox flag if i odin the official stock firmware?
Its good to have this method available for those who are very conscious of Knox falg/warranty. Personally:
I will be doing a full root on my second N3. I have to; in the memory of my first N3... RIP where ever you are now.
lm that guy said:
Oh no I haven't tripped my Knox flag yet I was asking if I use this method to root and I wanted to go back to stock later down the road, Will I trip the Knox flag if i odin the official stock firmware?
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I am not positive - but I think if you flash anything - it will trip it - if you odin back to stock - it would include a new kernel and that would tirp the flag - I may be wrong - but I believe I read this the other day.
WHy would you want to return to stock? To return the phone or something if something went wrong? Maybe there is another way to remove root.?
I dont think you even have to remove root. There will be now ay to tell if you are rooted using that method. Unless you use app that ask you SU permission. So before return just do Factory Reset. That i think should take care of things. IMHO.
lm that guy said:
Oh no I haven't tripped my Knox flag yet I was asking if I use this method to root and I wanted to go back to stock later down the road, Will I trip the Knox flag if i odin the official stock firmware?
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No, if you ODIN back to full stock or do a factory reset/wipe the Knox flag will NOT be triggered. That flag only triggers if you install a CUSTOM recovery or kernel (custom rom).
For the Galaxy S3, there's also a "no trip root" thread where you simply flash a root-injected TouchWhiz, which I used, and as long as you never flash anything non-Samsung in ODIN, you'll never trip the flash counter flag (which can be reset with TriangleAway anyway, unlike the KNOX flag afaik). But, once rooted, you don't need ODIN, and flashing TWRP recovery via the GooManager app (or dd'ing the img over the recovery partition) doesn't trip the flag, nor does subsequent ROM flashes from recovery over the system partition.
Is it the same situation here, or is the KNOX flag different, in that it will always get tripped as soon as it sees an unsigned partition on bootup?
Darn.. Wish I came upon this like 2 days after I had my TMO note 3. Ive already tripped my Knox. Oh well.
Has anybody tested this method. Does it work
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DriftorX said:
Darn.. Wish I came upon this like 2 days after I had my TMO note 3. Ive already tripped my Knox. Oh well.
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The one thing that will eventually have me tripping my Knox flag is if a nice custom kernel comes along. But until then, a simple way to root without tripping the flag will hold me over :fingers-crossed:. Also I'm returning my phone in a week so it's important I don't trip it right now. I want to root and play around with my phone until then.
bbh4r4l said:
Has anybody tested this method. Does it work
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I will test in about 10 minutes when my phone gets finished charging to 100% and will report back. :laugh:
Edit: everything works Thanks OP for posting this!!
Just rooted via this method. It worked fine and knox is stil 0x0. It also didn't factory reset my phone like I thought it would, I'm going to do it anyway, but I wasn't getting any FCs or anything either. Thank you for getting this out to us TMO users!
I don't get it. Rooting doesn't trip knox regardless. But flashing a custom kernel or rom does. So what is the point of this method if it will trip knox as soon as you flash a kernel or rom anyway.
HughesNet said:
I don't get it. Rooting doesn't trip knox regardless. But flashing a custom kernel or rom does. So what is the point of this method if it will trip knox as soon as you flash a kernel or rom anyway.
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For one you can use apps that require root. Also, you can uninstall bloatware and push apks to your phone using adb etc. A little more work than flashing a prebuilt custom rom, but you can get many of the same results.
*You also said rooting doesn't trip knox regardless, but it actually does unless you do it via this method.
Just did this. Easy as cake. Now I just need to sim unlock my note to use my ATT sim and I will be good to go!!
effortless said:
For one you can use apps that require root. Also, you can uninstall bloatware and push apks to your phone using adb etc. A little more work than flashing a prebuilt custom rom, but you can get many of the same results.
*You also said rooting doesn't trip knox regardless, but it actually does unless you do it via this method.
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I know you don't need a custom rom for some things. I run stock deodex myself. I flashed custom recovery immediately after root. I guess I thought that is what triggered knox. Either way matters little to me though. I know tmobile won't check knox counter if I use jump and even if they did I could sell on ebay and come out ahead. So I don't really understand why people worry about it. Insurance covers it if you damage it or need warranty service.
HughesNet said:
I know you don't need a custom rom for some things. I run stock deodex myself. I flashed custom recovery immediately after root. I guess I thought that is what triggered knox. Either way matters little to me though. I know tmobile won't check knox counter if I use jump and even if they did I could sell on ebay and come out ahead. So I don't really understand why people worry about it. Insurance covers it if you damage it or need warranty service.
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Yeah... Seems to me like a kinda-sorta placebo effect or simply one of those things that people can use who *must* have everything completely untraceable to the "T." Like you said, there's virtually no "real" reason this is very necessary, far's I can tell... But, regardless, good work on this - without a doubt - and definitely always a big "plus" to have multiple working methods! :good:
HughesNet said:
I don't get it. Rooting doesn't trip knox regardless. But flashing a custom kernel or rom does. So what is the point of this method if it will trip knox as soon as you flash a kernel or rom anyway.
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exactly. I think op might not know everything like he is implying. he just wants some attention
*****es be be like "nice phone"
mocsab said:
I am not positive - but I think if you flash anything - it will trip it - if you odin back to stock - it would include a new kernel and that would tirp the flag - I may be wrong - but I believe I read this the other day.
WHy would you want to return to stock? To return the phone or something if something went wrong? Maybe there is another way to remove root.?
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If people read up on how KNOX actually works, there wouldn't be so much confusion.
The KNOX WARRANTY VOID flag is set to 0x1 when the bootloader detects (via Qualcomm SecureBoot) that you are booting either a kernel or a recovery that isn't SELinux enforcing (it displays a message such as RECOVERY IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING - Set Warranty Bit: recovery). It remembers that the partition you booted was insecure and flags it in its own little memory area. It sets individual warranty bits for each partition - boot (kernel), recovery, cache (if you happen to put something there that it doesn't approve of), system. If ANY of those partition warranty bits are set, the KNOX WARRANTY VOID flag is set to 0x1.
This is all explained in the KNOX white paper available on the Samsung web site.
Now, if someone figures out how to write-enable the protected flash area so the flag can be reset AND disable Qualcomm SecureBoot so that it doesn't set the flag over and over again, we'll be in business. For now, only Samsung knows how to do it.
So basically, I wanted 4.3. But I didn't reset my root counter and now I rooted back and my phone is stuck with a tripped Knox counter as well. I did some research but I couldn't find anything related to the Note2.
I'm done with rooting, I want to reset back to stock, and reset the knox and root counter. What should I do?
Hate to break it to you, but as of now Knox can not be reset. You can use triangle away for just the flash counter, but again Knox will stay tripped
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SadGamer said:
I did some research but I couldn't find anything related to the Note2.
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Really??? Then it looks like you missed a lot of the posts pertaining to Knox....
Here is just one of them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570180
If research doesn't work for you, try the Search button next time.
I need to root my tablet so I can use a few apps I like. I had it on my Samsung note 10.1 2012 and used triangle away. Not really looking for a rom, at this point I like stock ROM.
Any help please?
This has been answered a 1000 x before. Knox flag will trip and no known way to reset.
I have already rooted but have since noticed an issue with my display and I am past the return date for Best Buy. Because I have tripped Knox, I will not be able to send it in to Samsung?
touchwiziscute said:
I have already rooted but have since noticed an issue with my display and I am past the return date for Best Buy. Because I have tripped Knox, I will not be able to send it in to Samsung?
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You can always send it back for repair. Whether the repair cost is covered by warranty will depend on your local laws and or willingness of the service center. Just return it in official status and "play dumb"
Triangle away won't work?
Nope... it wont work on knox... will only work on normal counter.
edan1979 said:
Nope... it wont work on knox... will only work on normal counter.
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I didn't bother answering only to repeat myself again. .....
I too would love to root but don't want to trip Knox. Samsung are real bastard for introducing it. Too bad the only capable hacker Geohot sold out and works for Google patching exploits now...
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What about this towel root thing? It says it roots without tripping Knox, is this true?
please read... towel root no longer working on new release since geohot = the guy who make it are now working with google to patch those exploit.
I want to trade in my S3 to Samsung so I get $200 off my phone purchase. The thing is, my phone is rooted and the flash counter is tripped/all that jazz. I've used ODIN to flash to 4.3 before so I believe I might have knox and the newest bootloader. Does that mean it's impossible to reset the flash counter and return everything to stock?
Another question is do you think Samsung would care? Their terms are:
In order to trade in your device, it must meet the following conditions:
· It cannot be on a black list of any kind;
· It must be able to be powered on;
· It can only be in a condition consistent with normal wear and tear;
· It cannot have a cracked screen; and;
· It cannot have any water damage of any kind
In no place does it say anything about ROMing or rooting but I don't want to be out $200 and an S3 if it matters. If I can't reset the counter I'll just ODIN to the latest stock ROM and pray.
I'm not sure, but it doesn't sound like they're looking. You won't be able to reset the trip counter, so you'll just need to use Odin to get back to 4.3 and factory reset. That's about as far as you will be able to go.
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I'm not sure, but it doesn't sound like they're looking. You won't be able to reset the trip counter, so you'll just need to use Odin to get back to 4.3 and factory reset. That's about as far as you will be able to go.
You cannot reset the knox counter. Once it's been tripped, no enduser can reset it.
I suggest rooting, using triangle away, and then flash a stock ROM with Odin. That's about all you can do. They will only see it's a problem if they go into download mode.
I agree, it doesn't sound like they care. I'd just Odin back to stock and send it to them. Their main goal is to sell you a new device, they'll probably just toss out the older phones they get in trade