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Hey guys, this is not a QQ post like many others, just wanted to point out some things , 1 week ago i sent my galaxy note for repair and got HTC ONE X instead, the phone was running quite nice i have to say it was unbranded one even tho it was bought from Vodafone in Czech Republic, i received both OTAs immediately after the release. The phone itself have really beautifull design i have to say its probably the best looking phone right now but the issues it have thats just bollox, i had flickering when the brightness was on the lowest settings which i didnt use anyway but it was there, battery on this device is just i dont know, htc is boasting with Nvidia Tegra but come on, 20-30 minutes of playing and ur phone is dead, standby battery life is quite nice and it would last for 2-3 days but when u turn the screen on you can just see the battery goin down, which is quite disturbing i got to the point when i was really scared to even turn it on This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol. I know the device is new and there are always issues with it, but come on my note didnt have so many issues, and the ones htc is experiencing that are not just minor problems, its facing construction problems, overheating , battery drainage screen flickering,lagging tegra games and maybe even others. I was really sad to return the phone but come on, i spent around 600 euro on it and i would expect some kind of level. Im back to my note now, and tbh im just gonna wait for S3 to test it out and see, i know new phones always have issues but HTC should have waited with the release of ONE X to make it perfect phone, its beautifull designed, it has gorgeous display, nice camera but the issues are letting it down.
what i am not getting is....
You sent your Note for repair and got the HOX, was this a temporary solution? As you say you spent 600 euro on the HOX but now you have your Note back.............very confusing.
nemmie_cz said:
Hey guys, this is not a QQ post like many others, just wanted to point out some things , 1 week ago i sent my galaxy note for repair and got HTC ONE X instead, the phone was running quite nice i have to say it was unbranded one even tho it was bought from Vodafone in Czech Republic, i received both OTAs immediately after the release. The phone itself have really beautifull design i have to say its probably the best looking phone right now but the issues it have thats just bollox, i had flickering when the brightness was on the lowest settings which i didnt use anyway but it was there, battery on this device is just i dont know, htc is boasting with Nvidia Tegra but come on, 20-30 minutes of playing and ur phone is dead, standby battery life is quite nice and it would last for 2-3 days but when u turn the screen on you can just see the battery goin down, which is quite disturbing i got to the point when i was really scared to even turn it on This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol. I know the device is new and there are always issues with it, but come on my note didnt have so many issues, and the ones htc is experiencing that are not just minor problems, its facing construction problems, overheating , battery drainage screen flickering,lagging tegra games and maybe even others. I was really sad to return the phone but come on, i spent around 600 euro on it and i would expect some kind of level. Im back to my note now, and tbh im just gonna wait for S3 to test it out and see, i know new phones always have issues but HTC should have waited with the release of ONE X to make it perfect phone, its beautifull designed, it has gorgeous display, nice camera but the issues are letting it down.
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Bye, have fun!!
novak84 said:
what i am not getting is....
You sent your Note for repair and got the HOX, was this a temporary solution? As you say you spent 600 euro on the HOX but now you have your Note back.............very confusing.
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nope i wanted to sell Note when it got back from repair and keep the HOX but today when i got the call from the store that my note is repaired i changed my mind and returned hox, cause i dont really have time to sort issues htc should have sorted for us, just imagine people who dont read these forums and face issues hox have ? they are not gonna fix them by themselves, the phone should be in stage where you shouldnt really tweak the system and stuff to be able to use the phone normally, this forums right now is just filled with people who are assuring themselves they did the right choice of buying this phone, i see people saying they returned the phone 4-5 times, that doesnt feel right tbh
you sent note for repair, bought a HOX for 600 and now you are selling your HOX? I will give you twenty quid for it.
Seriously, you are moaning about the HOX but you havent had any issues but you are scared of what you read on here........
By the way, why was your Note in for "repair"?
My HOX has been fine, no issues whatsoever, i reckon you are one of these people that when you are ill with a simple cold, you type it in to google and end up worrying you have cancer.
The point is, I am not unlocked and of course still running on completely stock rom and never experience any issue mentioned here and there.
Dont get me wrong, I used to have Desire, Incredible S, Sensation, EVO 3D and I was first to apply S-OFF/unlock back in the days and did loads of mods to them, but H1X is just simply better, so flawless that I still have no intention to unlock.
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you sent note for repair, bought a HOX for 600 and now you are selling your HOX? I will give you twenty quid for it.
Seriously, you are moaning about the HOX but you havent had any issues but you are scared of what you read on here........
By the way, why was your Note in for "repair"?
My HOX has been fine, no issues whatsoever, i reckon you are one of these people that when you are ill with a simple cold, you type it in to google and end up worrying you have cancer.
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I lost around 3gb of space on the phone memory, when i pressed the screen on edges you could just feel how the display goes down a little bit + it made the purple **** on the edges, battery was just horrible when u used the phone i cant even imagine ur traveling somewhere and play something for 30 mins that would just kill the battery, i lost around 40 percent of battery life just by downloading The Dark Meadow data with the screen on, which took around 10 minutes, thats not normal if u ask me, and no im not selling it i just returned it in the 2 weeks period, why u blame me i dont get i just pointed out some things i didnt like, but honestly im not gonna transfer all my data to pc format my card every single time i loose some space, theres few flawless devices out there if it would be the one i had i would keep it but with so many issues i rather gave up on it
to be perfectly honest, i don't blame you if you had the flex and screen issues, it drives you mad! the screen lamination issues are a total disgrace
HTC better sort this and quickly
funny some people are still in denial around here, would you like to suggest to someone in your family getting a HOX and struggling like the rest of us with defects?
The phone is amazing but we need to pressure HTC to sort this out quick and most important never box devices in such state! if you are fan of HTC you should care about this
never seen this much drama on the Desire HD forum during release, i'm sorry ask anyone with a DHD
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to be perfectly honest, i don't blame you if you had the flex and screen issues, it drives you mad!
HTC better sort this and quickly
funny some people are still in denial around here, would you like to suggest to someone in your family getting a HOX and struggling like the rest of us with defects?
The phone is amazing but we need to pressure HTC to sort this out quick and most important never box devices in such state! if you are fan of HTC you should care about this
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To be honest i was really sad to return it back, my intention was to keep the phone, but right now untill they sort their mess i would not recommend it, i dont say all units are faulty, but most of them is, i was having Desire HD for 1 year and it was perfect device, apart from battery The HOX is really gorgeous i had a white one, the camera was pleasure to use, got some nice pics from it, display i wont even compare it to my note, its totally different league, but the issues i was haivng with it just drove me crazy, not to mention camera lens getting scratches really easy, and yes i was using the case and i wasnt even wearing it in jeans or anything, im really carefull when it gets to phones, i might actually buy it again when they sort these issues, but right now it was a no for me
no denail here, phone is perfect and if you have one of the issues then that is unfortunate, but the OP seems to be making mountain out of a molehill and all this while his Note was broken.
novak84 said:
no denail here, phone is perfect and if you have one of the issues then that is unfortunate, but the OP seems to be making mountain out of a molehill and all this while his Note was broken.
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note was having issues with s-pen only and camera software, while hox is having issues overall, and its not just minor software issues mate, if u have flawless device then ye im jealous, but theres ****loads of faulty ones, you can see many people returning and replacing the device multiple times, havent seen that before
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note was having issues with s-pen only and camera software, while hox is having issues overall, and its not just minor software issues mate, if u have flawless device then ye im jealous, but theres ****loads of faulty ones, you can see many people returning and replacing the device multiple times, havent seen that before
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yes im gagging for a flawless grey, if someone has it and so sure its easy to get another please by all means PM me i will buy immediately
i really don't care if we scare new comers, HTC needs to learn a lesson here
you simply don't ship a highly praised 600$ flagship device in this state
if it was apple we would have already buried them by now
everyone was so excited and you get that box with the bloody cursed "im the one" sticker and surprise!
hamdir said:
yes im gagging for a flawless grey, if someone has it and so sure its easy to get another please by all means PM me i will buy immediately
i really don't care if we scare new comers, HTC needs to learn a lesson here
you simply don't ship a highly praised 600$ flagship device in this state
if it was apple we would have already buried them by now
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Thats what i mean i already said the phone itself is great, and i can imagine there has been alot of people fired in HTC for this, cause this didnt make a good name for their flagship
nemmie_cz said:
This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol.
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First, learn to use paragraphs to separate your thoughts. Streams of consciousness are difficult to comprehend.
Second, do you believe everything you read? I posted some comments in the SD card thread before the Chinese tree monkeys spun it out of control. The 3GB isn't missing; it's in protected space that CHKDSK can't read. It's because HTC's using a different method of managing storage. It's why the One X shows up as "mass storage" device and not "MTP" like other ICS devices. The XL has only 16GB of memory. Don't you think the people on their forum are smart enough to notice if 2/3 was missing the way people are claiming here?
If I get a SGS3 it'll be to get away from posts like this and the random and pointless crisis posts on this forum.
nemmie_cz said:
note was having issues with s-pen only and camera software, while hox is having issues overall, and its not just minor software issues mate, if u have flawless device then ye im jealous, but theres ****loads of faulty ones, you can see many people returning and replacing the device multiple times, havent seen that before
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But all i can gather is your HOX had 3gb missing (which it isnt) and when you leave the battery on playing games it drains the battery. Everything else you have only read about it.
nemmie_cz said:
Hey guys, this is not a QQ post like many others, just wanted to point out some things , 1 week ago i sent my galaxy note for repair and got HTC ONE X instead, the phone was running quite nice i have to say it was unbranded one even tho it was bought from Vodafone in Czech Republic, i received both OTAs immediately after the release. The phone itself have really beautifull design i have to say its probably the best looking phone right now but the issues it have thats just bollox, i had flickering when the brightness was on the lowest settings which i didnt use anyway but it was there, battery on this device is just i dont know, htc is boasting with Nvidia Tegra but come on, 20-30 minutes of playing and ur phone is dead, standby battery life is quite nice and it would last for 2-3 days but when u turn the screen on you can just see the battery goin down, which is quite disturbing i got to the point when i was really scared to even turn it on This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol. I know the device is new and there are always issues with it, but come on my note didnt have so many issues, and the ones htc is experiencing that are not just minor problems, its facing construction problems, overheating , battery drainage screen flickering,lagging tegra games and maybe even others. I was really sad to return the phone but come on, i spent around 600 euro on it and i would expect some kind of level. Im back to my note now, and tbh im just gonna wait for S3 to test it out and see, i know new phones always have issues but HTC should have waited with the release of ONE X to make it perfect phone, its beautifull designed, it has gorgeous display, nice camera but the issues are letting it down.
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Ta raaa pet.
twistedh said:
Ta raaa pet.
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Ehh, Dansih languike?
Vallhall said:
Ehh, Dansih languike?
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lol, mancunian i believe or geordie...
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I'm loving my HOXL so far, battery is better than my iPhone and any other android device I've ever owned.. That in itself is astounding considering the screen / resolution.
hamdir said:
yes im gagging for a flawless grey, if someone has it and so sure its easy to get another please by all means PM me i will buy immediately
i really don't care if we scare new comers, HTC needs to learn a lesson here
you simply don't ship a highly praised 600$ flagship device in this state
if it was apple we would have already buried them by now
everyone was so excited and you get that box with the bloody cursed "im the one" sticker and surprise!
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you can have my one then if you are willing to pay top dollar get me the s3 and you can have my gorgeous working HOX..No problems no gaps no nothing. Perfect customer and love it
A few users have reported a Blank Screen of Death, with myself included.
The problem being that the phone's display doesn't switch on when you wake up the device. At this time, Everything else will including the Digitizer and Capacitive buttons.
I have spoken with HTC service centers across Australia and NZ to come to the conclusion that this is a motherboard problem. The infamous flickering issue seems to be involved also, which ends up shorting out the video driver.
The issue isn't just limited to the screen not displaying anything either, there's also the possibility that the back light will cut out, and sometimes leading to corruption on the display.
This isn't just with some devices either, it seems like anyone that has had the screen flickering issue are at risk of this.
To give you an idea of how much it costs to fix this issue, I was quoted at $250 AUD for just the motherboard alone.
The best part is, HTC may also deny your warranty for unlocking your bootloader, as they have with me.
I'll be posting more information as it develops.
EDIT 29/07/12 :: I'm going to request a transcript of my last conversation with HTC but until then, they're denying that this is a problem and saying that it's the user's fault. How? We use our phones to much, or inappropriately.
It's becoming obvious that they're trying to avoid spending anymore money fixing these issues, and have decided just to move on and release a new One X model. (according to news sources.)
Also, Boobinator just posted a video of the One X's screen corrupting while it isn't stuck under the BSOD which you can see here and here
Just to recap.
When the initial issues were found with screen flickering and corruption on the display, we were told it was a software issue.
Many months later, I along with many of you are still experiencing it, even though it's not nearly as bad as it once was.
Now there are growing reports that One X's are starting to lose their displays, and the poly-carbonate weakening and bending the antenna pins. (You can find more information here)
This is something you should all be aware about when purchasing this phone.
Best of luck!
Reserved.
Update Bump
Maybe us in America can file a class action lawsuit? I'm no lawyer here but anyone with better understanding of American consumer laws chime in?
This is problem that occurs with normal usage of the phone.
Another day, another hardware issue. HTC is going down the drain, im hugely disappointed in the way they are handling this mess. Improper testing, too slow to fix problems or ignore/deny them. Bull**** games about unlocking and warranty and now they are already talking about releasing more phones. Its easier for them to move on to a new model than to do the right thing and do a complete recall. Is this a QC issue or a design flaw, with all the negative reports I'm thinking its the latter.
HTC better handle this properly, they need to stop development on all new products untill this is solved.
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Can u please send me details about the store that sells the motherboard ?
I have the same problem...and I need my phone fixed !
Thx
Is this the same flickering that happens in some ROMs when you rotate the phone?
Mine too
This just started happening to mine Nothing displayed on the screen, but it still responds to inputs. Even rebooting into fastboot, same problem. So everything is functioning except the display.
Have just handed it back to vodafone for repair, don't like my odds with the unlocked bootloader though :/
I had this issue on Viper or Android Revolution, but not on other ROMs. But I'm starting to get wifi issue, scratches, scratches on camera lins. I should buy S3, not this.
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sent it back because of flickering. I just hope they will fix the problem properly and change the motherboard.
Sent from my Legend using xda app-developers app
This happened to my Incredible S too if any one's interested.....
I'm not buying the HOX, I'm sorry. There's just too many different issues for too many people with this phone. It's an expensive top of the line phone, that does appear to be pretty shoddy put together. I don't care if it's under warranty and I have dumbass-insurance if I break it, but I can't send my phone inn all the time even if it's free. You shouldn't have to send it in at all.......
I presume now know we know why HTC is loosing money, market share and their stocks are going down....
This happened to me too, about a month ago, the phones been in repair since then(1 month, are you freaking kidding me HTC). I also unlocked the bootloader, lets see whether HTC charges me or not.
Also, I managed to get the display to work(somewhat) after shaking the device a bit. But even after that the display wont work properly, I even have 2 short videos of the screen acting weird when i got it to work. Here they are - Video 1 Video 2
Sorry for the ****ty quality, got it on my iphone. This was after I shook the device and the display magically started working. Even with the display working you can see it is really weird, even unresponsive at times.
So guys, there are a lot of places you can buy motherboards from, but they will charge you a lot more than what it's worth mainly because of the shortage within HTC.
I'm so sorry all of you are going through this, but i think we need to raise awareness of this issue. People are buying these phones without realizing there's a good chance they're going to have either bad WiFi antenna's or even a bad motherboard.
Send this to your friends, post it around, contact HTC.
Best of luck!
I am having this problem as well, as well as the WiFi antenna issue. The WiFi antenna somehow bent itself somehow, because after a while it was back to normal signal strength, so I didn't feel like sending the phone away for a month. But now with this screen issue it really is unusable, so it seems I don't have a choice anymore
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Here is a picture of an example of what happens:
http://i.imgur.com/ScIaM.jpg
And here are two 1 minute videos of what happens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIY0_Hy2_mA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYXXvu11f3o
may heat have damaged gpu? it looks like when pc's video card is about to fail (like faulty memories or damaged gpu)
CAPSGUY said:
I am having this problem as well, as well as the WiFi antenna issue. The WiFi antenna somehow bent itself somehow, because after a while it was back to normal signal strength, so I didn't feel like sending the phone away for a month. But now with this screen issue it really is unusable, so it seems I don't have a choice anymore
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Here is a picture of an example of what happens:
http://i.imgur.com/ScIaM.jpg
And here are two 1 minute videos of what happens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIY0_Hy2_mA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYXXvu11f3o
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Heat damage.
I doubt it's heat damage, i hardly played games on mine and it had that problem. I think the most i played was Triple Town, and that was it.
Also, wouldn't it be a massive problem if it was heat damage? That means the tegra 3 processor can't handle stress, and given that the phone inherently has heating issues, this just draws the conclusion that the Tegra 3 is bad news?
it may be a faulty soc
From what I've heard, it's been linked directly to the flickering screen problem. Which could mean that the first batch of One X's have all faulty Soc's? I mean, it's not uncommon for there to be manufacturing difficulties for the first few batches, but this is just absurd.
Atrixx said:
From what I've heard, it's been linked directly to the flickering screen problem. Which could mean that the first batch of One X's have all faulty Soc's? I mean, it's not uncommon for there to be manufacturing difficulties for the first few batches, but this is just absurd.
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Not all of the first batch flickered. Stop exaggerating.
Hello everyone. First of all, I want to write a small disclaimer saying that I have already searched multiple forums in order to find specific answers to my questions, but haven't managed to find the answers I needed. Furthermore, I am a first-time user on XDA so I also wanted to say Helloooo!!!
Here's the story. Two-days ago I have purchased an HTC One X from Orange, so it's the Tegra 3 international version. I need to point out that this is my very first smartphone. I haven't owned one until now because I felt like all I needed was a small box to speak in. However, times change and I am finally living in the present .
Needless to say, I love this device. However, I have a few questions regarding the handset, and handsets in general.
- First, the temperature. I have searched forums and I have learned that some smartphones get hotter than other, and that it's a normal thing. However, since I am not used with a hot device in my hands (literally and figuratively) it got a bit scared and I have searched the web for answers. The thing is, I wasn't able to find what is the exact safe-zone for this specific device. Keep in mind that this is a Tegra 3 version, and from my understanding Tegras it gets hotter than Snapdragons. Also, I have noticed that on many threads and forums, people mix-up battery and CPU temperatures…I simply want a clear answer. I want to know the safe-zone for both the CPU and battery, separately.
As a side note, I don't really care if the device feels warm in my hands when running demanding apps and games (normally the device is quite cool). However I am afraid I will damage the device if I play heavy 3D games….I don't want that to happen.
I was also wondering whether or not it's safe to use the phone with a protective case on, like otterbox defender. Wouldn't that rubber make the temperatures even higher?
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- Second question: I ran StabilityTest because I got paranoid and I wanted to see if my device was stable. I ran the first CPU test (unrooted) for about 15 minutes and got no errors. However, I have noticed that on screen it said the cores run at 1,000 MHz…Wasn't this supposed to run at 1,5 Ghz?
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- Third. I have also learned yesterday evening that some HTC One X units have a screen ripple issue…I tested mine and indeed I have the same problem.
However, it slightly ripples mostly on the left side. The thing is, it doesn't bother me because it only ripples if I press the glass on its very edge, and I can't see a reason why I would do that when using the device normally. I admit, I haven't pressed too hard because I really like the device and I don't want to damage it.
So what I was wondering is this. Is it normal for every One X to get this ripple effect? I have searched an older thread somewhere, and opinions were mixed. People have said that as long as it doesn't affect the rest of the screen, it's normal. Others (probably those owning another device) claimed it's not normal and the owners should replace the device.
However, the thread was a few months old and I wanted to get some newer answers. Has HTC answered this issue? Is it or is it not normal? I mean, I know no ripples > some ripples, but still. Is it dangerous? Will the problem get worse with the passage of time?
The thing is, someone claimed they have returned the device only to get an even worse one…I am not bothered by how my display ripples. It's nothing annoying, so as long as everything remains the way it is, I see no reason to return the device.
Will it get worse in time…?
Also, is the HTC One X the very first device to experience this issue? If not, how did the situation developed for other handsets experiencing ripple issues?
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- Lastly, some people claimed that a certain update addressed a certain overheating issue. I am running software version 1.29.401.11 and it says I'm up to date (again, international version). Was this bug-fixing update released on the international version already, or am I running a version that overheats my device? Or, was this problem present on the international version to begin with?
Thank you so much for having the patience of reading my wall of text. I apologize if any information was already out there, I simply couldn't find the answers I needed. Well, I found some.
Regards,
Neevar.
i really want to thank you for asking these questions. many of my questions will be answered too. i am waiting for the latest batch coz i believe i will get a perfect HOX. my basic issue is battery life is short. dint you face any problem like that? or wifi problem?
anyways. i am using N900. it is the most hackable device. i do many hacking and testing with it. can all these be possible with HOX. i am sorry but HOX will be my first android device so i know very little about android.
1) is it possible to hack WEP and WPA (with dictionary) wifi network?
2) is there MDK3 for android?
3) dsniff, dnspoof, etc
4) MITM attack.
if i buy HOX i will really miss my N900 for all these. is it possible to use them in android?
muid02 said:
i really want to thank you for asking these questions. many of my questions will be answered too. i am waiting for the latest batch coz i believe i will get a perfect HOX. my basic issue is battery life is short. dint you face any problem like that? or wifi problem?
anyways. i am using N900. it is the most hackable device. i do many hacking and testing with it. can all these be possible with HOX. i am sorry but HOX will be my first android device so i know very little about android.
1) is it possible to hack WEP and WPA (with dictionary) wifi network?
2) is there MDK3 for android?
3) dsniff, dnspoof, etc
4) MITM attack.
if i buy HOX i will really miss my N900 for all these. is it possible to use them in android?
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First of all, thanks for arranging all these questions in nice manner.
I'll surely keep track of this thread, as I'm also having similar doubts, which are not yet clear even after reading many threads and posting threads....
Looking forward to buy a new HOX here, preferebly from latest batches....
And a kind request to members those who are replying;
kindly give an unbiased opinon, and pls dont mix up any other issues...
muid02:- buddy, Please read what the thread is for....dont mix up unnecessay issues here, like your N900, adroid and other stupid stuffs...If you want clarification in those issues, start a new thread....
Neevar said:
Hello everyone. First of all, I want to write a small disclaimer saying that I have already searched multiple forums in order to find specific answers to my questions, but haven't managed to find the answers I needed. Furthermore, I am a first-time user on XDA so I also wanted to say Helloooo!!!
Here's the story. Two-days ago I have purchased an HTC One X from Orange, so it's the Tegra 3 international version. I need to point out that this is my very first smartphone. I haven't owned one until now because I felt like all I needed was a small box to speak in. However, times change and I am finally living in the present .
Needless to say, I love this device. However, I have a few questions regarding the handset, and handsets in general.
- First, the temperature. I have searched forums and I have learned that some smartphones get hotter than other, and that it's a normal thing. However, since I am not used with a hot device in my hands (literally and figuratively) it got a bit scared and I have searched the web for answers. The thing is, I wasn't able to find what is the exact safe-zone for this specific device. Keep in mind that this is a Tegra 3 version, and from my understanding Tegras it gets hotter than Snapdragons. Also, I have noticed that on many threads and forums, people mix-up battery and CPU temperatures…I simply want a clear answer. I want to know the safe-zone for both the CPU and battery, separately.
As a side note, I don't really care if the device feels warm in my hands when running demanding apps and games (normally the device is quite cool). However I am afraid I will damage the device if I play heavy 3D games….I don't want that to happen.
I was also wondering whether or not it's safe to use the phone with a protective case on, like otterbox defender. Wouldn't that rubber make the temperatures even higher?
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- Second question: I ran StabilityTest because I got paranoid and I wanted to see if my device was stable. I ran the first CPU test (unrooted) for about 15 minutes and got no errors. However, I have noticed that on screen it said the cores run at 1,000 MHz…Wasn't this supposed to run at 1,5 Ghz?
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- Third. I have also learned yesterday evening that some HTC One X units have a screen ripple issue…I tested mine and indeed I have the same problem.
However, it slightly ripples mostly on the left side. The thing is, it doesn't bother me because it only ripples if I press the glass on its very edge, and I can't see a reason why I would do that when using the device normally. I admit, I haven't pressed too hard because I really like the device and I don't want to damage it.
So what I was wondering is this. Is it normal for every One X to get this ripple effect? I have searched an older thread somewhere, and opinions were mixed. People have said that as long as it doesn't affect the rest of the screen, it's normal. Others (probably those owning another device) claimed it's not normal and the owners should replace the device.
However, the thread was a few months old and I wanted to get some newer answers. Has HTC answered this issue? Is it or is it not normal? I mean, I know no ripples > some ripples, but still. Is it dangerous? Will the problem get worse with the passage of time?
The thing is, someone claimed they have returned the device only to get an even worse one…I am not bothered by how my display ripples. It's nothing annoying, so as long as everything remains the way it is, I see no reason to return the device.
Will it get worse in time…?
Also, is the HTC One X the very first device to experience this issue? If not, how did the situation developed for other handsets experiencing ripple issues?
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- Lastly, some people claimed that a certain update addressed a certain overheating issue. I am running software version 1.29.401.11 and it says I'm up to date (again, international version). Was this bug-fixing update released on the international version already, or am I running a version that overheats my device? Or, was this problem present on the international version to begin with?
Thank you so much for having the patience of reading my wall of text. I apologize if any information was already out there, I simply couldn't find the answers I needed. Well, I found some.
Regards,
Neevar.
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Temperature - it does get hot. A lot of people say don't play games whilst charging the device, as it will get hotter.
I personally don't believe in this. The phone should have safeguards (similar to a PC) to specifically stop it overheating - infact it does, when it gets too hot, it stops charging. If it overheats and dies (which is a big if, i've certainly not heard of anyones hox dying from overheating), then this would be covered under warranty anyway. Which I believe is 2 years. It would be reallllly stupid for HTC not to test for heat issues before release. I'm sure they had a fleet of devices all running stress tests just to make sure they didn't melt.
I don't know the 'safe zones' all i know is that HTC confirmed that reaching a temperature of 55c is normal and nothing to worry about. I have since read of people reaching higher temps (72c) but I don't think even that had any adverse effects
The CPU underclocks itself for power saving. This is a separate feature from the companion core. This can be modified, you have to create a shortcut (easiest way is to use minimalistictext, and create a widget, that on tap will open the power saving settings shortcut.) It does run at 1500 however. You haven't been conned at least
Most hox's i've had (6 in total) had the screen ripple, the general rule on whether it is normal or not - if you have to push really hard to get it to ripple, then it's fine. It's only when it ripples on a very gentle touch that you might want to get it replaced/repaired. (a gentle touch does fall into normal use, and this ripple imo shouldn't happen under normal use.)
Do be sure that if you send back the device, that it IS a hardware problem, and that it is a bad enough issue to warrant possibly getting another, but worse problem. Note that I've been through 6 hoxs, each one of them with different (and some of the same) problems. The 6th one, is also defective, and is due to be replaced soon.
I don't believe the HOX is the first device to suffer from screen ripple. My DHD did it. The difference was i had to push unbelieveably hard to make it happen the slightest bit. So clearly there is some sort of design flaw here, particularly on those hoxs that just need a slight touch for it to happen.
Regarding the update that addresses overheating, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but i think thats the 2.05 update, which hasn't been officially released yet, only leaked. You can install a custom rom with the 2.05 base, but otherwise just be patient and we shall soon have the update OTA.
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Thank you so much for the detailed reply Lawrence. Your feedback really cleared some things in my mind.
Regarding the temperature, I have never seen the LEDs go red or anything like that. It just feels warm, that's all. I just checked the temperatures and right now while idling it shows 39 degrees, but considering the fact that my room temperature is around 33 degrees, I suppose that's a good value (yeah, AC broke, I run a big fan in my face lol). While playing GTA 3 for about 30 minutes last night the temps reached 50 degrees. I have seen older posts claiming that 50 degrees is really bad, but those posts were after or even before the handset launched in certain regions, and most people claiming this were comparing the One X with their own handset. Now that you've said HTC confirmed that 55 is a normal temperature, I think mine performs quite well to be honest...
Note* I haven't played while charging.
About the screen ripple. It doesn't happen on normal use. but if I focus in holding my fingernail on the very edge of the screen and drag it from top to bottom, i do see faint ripples. as I've said, it doesn't bother me as long as it won't get worse... do you have any idea if it can get worse somehow with the passage of time?
I am rather afraid to replace it since yes, I might end up with an even worse unit... so, for me at least it all depends on whether or not the ripples can get worse or if it can damage my display in time. I really don't know what to do here...I certainly don't want to replace my phone for more than one time...
Since you already replaced your HTC One X 5 times now, can you tell me how the process works? Will they replace my phone at the Orange store or do they need to check on it for a frikin week before deciding to give me another?...
Regarding the update, if it's not out then I'll just wait. Considering the fact that according to HTC my temps are in check, and considering the fact that I never got a warning and / or reboot, I should be safe, I hope.
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Thank you so much for the detailed reply Lawrence. Your feedback really cleared some things in my mind.
Regarding the temperature, I have never seen the LEDs go red or anything like that. It just feels warm, that's all. I just checked the temperatures and right now while idling it shows 39 degrees, but considering the fact that my room temperature is around 33 degrees, I suppose that's a good value (yeah, AC broke, I run a big fan in my face lol). While playing GTA 3 for about 30 minutes last night the temps reached 50 degrees. I have seen older posts claiming that 50 degrees is really bad, but those posts were after or even before the handset launched in certain regions, and most people claiming this were comparing the One X with their own handset. Now that you've said HTC confirmed that 55 is a normal temperature, I think mine performs quite well to be honest...
Note* I haven't played while charging.
About the screen ripple. It doesn't happen on normal use. but if I focus in holding my fingernail on the very edge of the screen and drag it from top to bottom, i do see faint ripples. as I've said, it doesn't bother me as long as it won't get worse... do you have any idea if it can get worse somehow with the passage of time?
I am rather afraid to replace it since yes, I might end up with an even worse unit... so, for me at least it all depends on whether or not the ripples can get worse or if it can damage my display in time. I really don't know what to do here...I certainly don't want to replace my phone for more than one time...
Since you already replaced your HTC One X 5 times now, can you tell me how the process works? Will they replace my phone at the Orange store or do they need to check on it for a frikin week before deciding to give me another?...
Regarding the update, if it's not out then I'll just wait. Considering the fact that according to HTC my temps are in check, and considering the fact that I never got a warning and / or reboot, I should be safe, I hope.
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I don't think the ripple gets worse over time, I can't say for sure really because I haven't had one long enough to see, however I can say that it does appear to be the way they are assembled that causes the issue, and its that that defines how bad the ripple is, rather than it getting worse over time.
My most recent hox, didnt have very bad ripple, and now after 'repair' it does, and also has a dead pixel in a different place. I suspect they actually replaced the screen, and it so happens that this screen has bad ripple. The other one didn't.
If I could find out for definite what they did it would kinda confirm whether the ripple gets worse over time or not, but they didn't log anything about the repair (tracking site never updated) and HTC can't tell me anything other about it than 'we're still waiting for it in repair center'
The replacement process (this applies to UK):
Sales of goods act states that if there is a fault with the device, in the first 6 months after purchase, it is the retailers responsibility to repair, replace, or refund the purchase, unless the retailer can prove that you caused the fault yourself.
If the repair option is chosen, then this mustn't significantly inconvenience the buyer. IE if they send it back unrepaired, they don't really have a choice from then, other than to replace it or refund you.
However there is also a cooling off period.
http://whatconsumer.co.uk/cooling-off-and-cancellations/
Depending on whether you bought the phone from an Orange shop (from actually within the shop) or bought it via internet/phone/mail, it differs slightly.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually
If you bought it online, or by phone, but not in the shop, then you will have a 7 day cooling off period, from the conclusion of the contract
If the service was activated before the 7 day cooling off period, then you have given up the right to a cooling off period, but this must have been clearly communicated and with your agreement.
Orange must also send you written confirmation of the contract and any other additional information applicable. If this doesn't arrive within the 7 days, but before 3 months after purchase, then the cooling off period doesn't start until these confirmations have arrived.
Assuming you're out of this 7 day period, and also assuming that you haven't accepted the goods yet(see below) then you can reject the goods if they aren't as described, fit for purpose, or aren't of satisfactory quality.
Customers are considered to have accepted goods when they:
tell you they have accepted them
alter them
keep them for a reasonable length of time - this varies according to the nature of the goods
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I'm just looking for the cooling off period when bought in a shop, but my head hurts lol, if you do a bit of searching on google should come up fairly easily
Even if there isn't a cooling off period, which you don't need a reason to cancel, then you can reject the goods as mentioned above, on the basis they aren't of satisfactory quality, and in this instance orange will possibly replace, but they aren't obliged to at this point. Appeal to their goodwill, but they may well insist on sending it for repair.
I have read before than if CPU ran at 80 + degree every time then it can last for 2 years , so no worries about heat guys. The money which we have paid is worth.
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I have read before than if CPU ran at 80 + degree every time then it can last for 2 years , so no worries about heat guys. The money which we have paid is worth.
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But can the adjacent components withstand that heat emitting from the CPU?
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But can the adjacent components withstand that heat emitting from the CPU?
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they use the foil layer to spread the heat over the device, so yes i expect that any nearby components would be fine.
I'm starting to get pissed off.
I got in touch with an HTC technical agent via their online form, and I have received an email where the agent told me that the battery temperature should not go over 50 degrees Celsius. If that happens, then he advised me to return the phone immediately.
He also said that ripples are not normal and once again, I should return the phone.
So I ran Glowball for about 20 minutes and my battery has gone up to 61 degrees Celsius....
I decided to take my phone back to the store where I have bought it. Those dudes raised their shoulders and told me to go to the company that deals with warranties in order to get a paper, then return to them.
I asked them if I can cancel my contract and get a refund, but no, apparently it too much time has passed since I made the purchase.
I have called the company and a clueless lady answered then cut me off mid-sentence when I started talking about technical stuff. She was clearly clueless but asked me if I have been at the store with my phone...derp...
Then she told me that I should go there on monday and see what's what....
What an incompetent way of doing things. I am 99% certain that I won't go anywhere with these monkeys, either that or I'll waste at least a whole month trying to get a hold of a HOX that works as intended.
This being my very first smartphone, I am very disappointed and I'm fearful I have just got myself a two year contract with a carrier, for a phone that doesn't work and with which I'll probably stuck with because of these idiots.
And by the way, why hasn't HTC recalled or announced every carrier and company that deals with warranties that every phone that has ripple and overheat issues need to be recalled and replaced as soon as someone like me shows up in their store with a faulty device in their hands???
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Hi,
I have the following problem:
I have a HTC One X and have the BinDroid 5.0.0 Rome installiert.Der battery goes down quickly and the system hangs, no matter what I want ... the problem was with Coredroid V4.0 and BinDroid 4.0.0 already ... Not even in Whatsapp I can write without it hangs and the battery will not work correctly if it depends on the charger as soon as I use some program ... no matter what, whether whatsapp or other app's ... in the car when it depends on the charger, it produces the error message "Unable to load, the unit will be more current than the charger can charge" <- something like that ^ ^
now my question: it may be that generally run all CPUs instead of one CPU and the other can be switched on when it is necessary, as it should be normal, according to HTC?
What can or should I do that my HTc one x fluent running again?
Am very satisfied with BinDroid and in my opinion is the best ROM for the HTC One X
Hi there, I've got a gray one x since may, it works fine, I have just some issues: major one is one dead pixel (or a grain of dust, but I bet on the pixel) placed a bit above the "e" in "one" word at boot...it's hardly noticeable with dark colours, but it's still quite middle-positioned.
Second issue is a stuck pixel, a red one, which appears only on some black/gray gradients (not present on opaque skin dock bar, for example, slightly visible on dark stock Htc keyboard)...it really doesn't bother me at all, but could be "useful" to increase defective pixels count.
Last problem is a bit of space at top and bottom of the display...it doesn't let lights out or stuff like that,it just gathers a bit (not much indeed) of dust which remains between unibody and display borders.
Do you think I could get a repair based on these issues (mainly pixels, as I'm not sure that "dust space" is actually a problem)?
I even dropped my phone once, so it has a liiiiight "dent" on the right bottom corner (amd some light get out,sadly,but I can't ask warranty repair for that)...and I'm guessing if they could refuse repair based on that,and maybe even charge return shipment costs (that's an awful policy in my opinion).
I'm italian, and people here say that I could try and it's most like a toss the coin situation, but since I'd need to wait till September (nothing works fine in this country in August) I'd like to gather some stats to decide to wait more or throw that f***ng bootloader out of the window and start to mod as it's meant to be
Thanks for any help
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Hi there, I've got a gray one x since may, it works fine, I have just some issues: major one is one dead pixel (or a grain of dust, but I bet on the pixel) placed a bit above the "e" in "one" word at boot...it's hardly noticeable with dark colours, but it's still quite middle-positioned.
Second issue is a stuck pixel, a red one, which appears only on some black/gray gradients (not present on opaque skin dock bar, for example, slightly visible on dark stock Htc keyboard)...it really doesn't bother me at all, but could be "useful" to increase defective pixels count.
Last problem is a bit of space at top and bottom of the display...it doesn't let lights out or stuff like that,it just gathers a bit (not much indeed) of dust which remains between unibody and display borders.
Do you think I could get a repair based on these issues (mainly pixels, as I'm not sure that "dust space" is actually a problem)?
I even dropped my phone once, so it has a liiiiight "dent" on the right bottom corner (amd some light get out,sadly,but I can't ask warranty repair for that)...and I'm guessing if they could refuse repair based on that,and maybe even charge return shipment costs (that's an awful policy in my opinion).
I'm italian, and people here say that I could try and it's most like a toss the coin situation, but since I'd need to wait till September (nothing works fine in this country in August) I'd like to gather some stats to decide to wait more or throw that f***ng bootloader out of the window and start to mod as it's meant to be
Thanks for any help
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I would try for a repair/replacement. A dead pixel around the center can get annoying.
I have a stuck pixel at around 5 o clock of the screen, but I didn't get it repaired. The stuck pixel like you said is visible in dark or black backgrounds. I barely even notice it when I'm using the phone. Sometimes I'll notice it when I'm watching a video but its still really really small because of the number of pixels on this huge screen.
Get your phone absolutely flawless in terms of hardware defects before you ever unlock the bootloader, because once you do HTC seems to decide that it means that they can throw the warranty out the window.
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Get your phone absolutely flawless in terms of hardware defects before you ever unlock the bootloader, because once you do HTC seems to decide that it means that they can throw the warranty out the window.[/QUOTE
Yeah HTC is kinda bad on that front. I mean how could custom software contribute to dead pixels and other hardware issues. If it's hardware related it should be covered by the warranty.
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Get your phone absolutely flawless in terms of hardware defects before you ever unlock the bootloader, because once you do HTC seems to decide that it means that they can throw the warranty out the window.
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That's why I'm asking...my previous samsung phones have been modded on day one
It's quite sad to think that this community grew upon Htc products and countless mods, and now they're getting that tighter on this matter.
Thanks for your opinion guys, don't you think that the dent will be used as a "caused by user" excuse,then?
With a dent and an unlocked bootloader, HTC sure has enough excuses to refuse warranty. But you can always try your luck.
I called HTC UK before unlocking my boot loader to ask about warranty straight from the horse’s mouth. First I was told it voids all warranty, but after some discussion about how HTC dev has worded their T&C and talking to two other people from technical help division I was told that the final decision is upto the repair center. When HTC themselves can’t give a clear answer I don’t think anyone here can.
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That's why I'm asking...my previous samsung phones have been modded on day one
It's quite sad to think that this community grew upon Htc products and countless mods, and now they're getting that tighter on this matter.
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Rooting on the very first day is a pretty ignorant move.. Even though Samsung doesn’t have an official disclaimer for rooted devices on their web site like HTC does; they too reserve the right to refuse warranty (and its general knowledge). Its discussed many times here and everywhere else. Some carriers specifically state it on their web sites and contracts. Samsung may not be as strict as HTC on the matter, but I personally know a person who was denied a hardware warranty claim for a rooted Samsung Galaxy S.
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Rooting on the very first day is a pretty ignorant move.. Even though Samsung doesn’t have an official disclaimer for rooted devices on their web site like HTC does; they too reserve the right to refuse warranty (and its general knowledge). Its discussed many times here and everywhere else. Some carriers specifically state it on their web sites and contracts. Samsung may not be as strict as HTC on the matter, but I personally know a person who was denied a hardware warranty claim for a rooted Samsung Galaxy S.
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I've sent in a rooted (and dented) HTC Desire in for warranty 3 times so far (one of which was when it was running CM7) and it was accepted and fixed with no issues at all, so I think it's more like one of those YMMV things.
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so I think it's more like one of those YMMV things.
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Yes it is, I have come across threads where some (like you) have managed claim warranty while others have failed. So there is always a risk with any manufacturer. But more so with HTC’s because they have a disclaimer to which you have to agree twice while unlocking the boot loader. So its always wise to at least make sure the device is clear of any factory defects before pulling the trigger.
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With a dent and an unlocked bootloader, HTC sure has enough excuses to refuse warranty. But you can always try your luck.
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Wait, I have LOCKED bootloader (eagerly waiting to unlock, but I'm waiting for this warranty reason)...my main concern is the dent (which can't cause a dead pixel, but if they want to act like *****es they could use that ).
As per Samsung phones, it's so easy to bring everything to stock without traces that it's kind of a non-issue
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Rooting on the very first day is a pretty ignorant move..
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That's the only way to use Titanium and restore your phone and start testing it though properly
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Wait, I have LOCKED bootloader (eagerly waiting to unlock, but I'm waiting for this warranty reason)...my main concern is the dent (which can't cause a dead pixel, but if they want to act like *****es they could use that ).
As per Samsung phones, it's so easy to bring everything to stock without traces that it's kind of a non-issue
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Oh, ok, guess I misread your post.
As for Samsung devices, I know they can be restored, but provided you are in a position to do so. In the example I gave earlier, the USB port was broken, so he couldn't use a tool like Odin/heimdal to flash a stock ROM before sending it in. I just took it as an example to show that even Samsung doesn't tolerate flashing.
I love this phone. It's sexy, fast, and did I say sexy? But I'm on my second one now. The first had five stuck pixels and the top was pealing off. This one has none of that, but the touch screen is bugged. If I touch the backspace key on the Google Keyboard, I'll hit P somehow then it will select something random on the screen. If I'm scrolling through the homescreen, an app will open out of nowhere. If I press the back button, it will register it as a slide all the way up the screen and open Google now. I don't know if this is software, but so far it looks like I'm going to have to get another M8. If that one has problems, I'm going to the S5, no matter how ugly and bloatware ridden it is. I can't believe I've gotten two lemons in a row.
On that note, does T-Mobile offer replacements 14 days after getting the replacement, or is it only 14 days after getting the original device? I unlocked the bootloader so I don't want to send it in to HTC.
Get that info from your carrier. Go within these 14 days to a tmobile shop or just call them.
We are not tmobile here
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Get that info from your carrier. Go within these 14 days to a tmobile shop or just call them.
We are not tmobile here
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I realize that, I was just seeing if somebody may have had a similar experience, and hoping this was a bug I'm experiencing now, like how my old GNex couldn't detect corners of the screen.
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I realize that, I was just seeing if somebody may have had a similar experience, and hoping this was a bug I'm experiencing now, like how my old GNex couldn't detect corners of the screen.
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I had the phantom in the keyboard after installing insert coin 2.10 but after updating to 2.3.2 its all good, now the only thing that pisses me off is the whelp message on firewater s off lol :good::good:
Sometimes it makes me happy to live in "technology backwards Australia" (relatively). A year and a bit ago, my 1 year old son thought my HTC ONE X would look better in a bucket of water, maybe he was trying to make a boat.. It had been around 6 months since I had it, I don't get "insurance", IMHO, a scam for most cases over here. Drying it out with silca + rice, I got it going again except it wouldn't read the SIM card. I took it in one of the local carrier shops (Vodafone), we're discussing the possible costs, and she sees my "very colourful" ViperROM, naturally no Vodafone look or apps (LOL).
The girl says it will be "a cost involved" if I want HTC to examine + repair and/or replace phone yada yada. Memory says she said it was $50 to get HTC to look at the phone to let me know if it was repairable etc.. So, I say thanks, go home, look for Vodafone RUU. Go back to stock, go to the other shop, I talk about the phone not working, playing dumb. The attendant guy says "Ok, let see what I can do for you". He goes to a cupboard, finds a refurbished HTC ONE X, and swaps it over on the spot.. Yay for people who don't "dig deeper", as all the phone stuff was less than a day old, that kinda looks suss, unless factory reset would make the files have similar timestamps etc..
But meh, I got a new phone replacement basically, well I didn't have the POGO pins working so my cheap ebay powered case wasn't worth getting extra time, but that was ok, ROM improvements plus my own 10plus hours a day helping out some ROM + kernel devs suss out the battery, we were getting a "pretty good" daily use per charge as opposed to the start, plus I owned 2 or 3 Nexus 7s by then... heh.
And it was somewhat mind blowing walking past the phone shops with the wife+ kids seeing the M8 on release day, no "fanfare" or trying to show off the M8 as a great flagship, it was on display next to an iPhone 4 and a Note (2 or 3).. And then the S5 on it's release did get the little bit of extra 'showing off', but overall, to most ignorant people (non insult), they were just other phones there, well besides how most people know someone or have had a galaxy themselves so therefore may be drawn to that.
And I spent a bit of time at the carrier shops recently as my wife (plus myself) were able to get a new phone, which my wife did, I mainly was inquiring about cheaper or better plans of similar cost since I was happy with my G2. I get a date personally that I have to wait to get a new plan as Vodafone want to intice people to get new phones so they can finish their plans earlier than 'just' getting out of contract to another sim plan.
True to Murphey's law, my G2 got hosed that night, HAHA. Had one 'big death' like that, did the stuff needed to reload the phone with a tot file etc, but the EFS partiton was truly hosed. Baseband, simcard, wifi was truly dead on stock JB, Kitkat and various custom roms I installed that night. Next day, M8 baby!
I got a perfect unit.
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