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Hello All!
I made a similar thread to this over at the SGSII forums and was wondering what your answers are. So, the question is simple, which Kernel are you using and is the battery decent? Or a pile of rubbish? Lemme know. Poll has been setup with the main Kernels, I'll put an "other" option for people who are using new Kernels.
So, poll away!
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was using James Bond kernel 1.35 OC UV, never crash or lag. far better battery life than stock and super smooth.
right now i am testing faux123's kernel V9u for 4.0.2.
zeke1988 said:
was using James Bond kernel 1.35 OC UV, never crash or lag. far better battery life than stock and super smooth.
right now i am testing faux123's kernel V9u for 4.0.2.
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I tried Faux 4.0.3 Kernel yesterday, battery was losing 2% every 30 mins on idle, with next to 0 apps installed.
Running Stock AOKP Milestone 2 kernel, whichever kernel that is!
I wanna try different kernel but my ROM is perfect, not sure sure what other kernels may add that my rom already has and does.
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Running Stock AOKP Milestone 2 kernel, whichever kernel that is!
I wanna try different kernel but my ROM is perfect, not sure sure what other kernels may add that my rom already has and does.
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As far as features go, Franco.Kernel adds color and vibrance to your screen. Its also tweakable so you can customize the color settings as you please. Battery is apparently awful though.
Nitroz said:
As far as features go, Franco.Kernel adds color and vibrance to your screen. Its also tweakable so you can customize the color settings as you please. Battery is apparently awful though.
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thank u. just flashed that kernel, latest. but i dont see color control option anywhere... its supposed to be built in the kernel but i dont see it...
unless i have to pay for the app he has which i dont wanna just for a color change.
am i just blind, not seing that option arggh
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ok got it, commands.
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As far as features go, Franco.Kernel adds color and vibrance to your screen. Its also tweakable so you can customize the color settings as you please. Battery is apparently awful though.
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I am sort of noticing that battery life isn't so great too, although I wasn't sure since I haven't been running it for very long.
I was also looking for the best kernel.
Everybody talks about franco.Kernel. I will give it a try though.
Was using Franco's until earlier and now back to the Apex kernel that comes with bigxie's AOSP build
Eh? Franco kernel has the best battery life for me.
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I just loaded on Lean kernel yesterday. Initial indications are that the battery life is extremely good.
180mhz cpu while screen off = happy battery.
Giving glaDOS a try.. it has some cool features like turn the screen on by touching it.. also has color control and battery life seems pretty decent so far. Big fan of imoseyon though.
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I'm currently on Bigxie Build 8 with the Kernel included with it. Battery is pretty good. Underclocked my CPU to 970MHz. Losing 2% battery overnight (About 8 hours) and High usage I'm getting a decent amount of battery.
I'm wondering: I'm running ARHD 2.1.3 and thinking about flashing a kernel. Franco's had more options, but I'm getting that Jame Bonds kernel has a better battery life. That appeals to me. edit: ah, I see that Franco's is only for 4.0.3
Still, when I flash the kernel with ARHD 2.1.3 running, is it better to flash the anykernel.zip or should I just flash the original kernel?
Argh, just in the fun, looking for the best kernel. I'm between Franco's and Der Kernel Trinity NP (by the way, NP, Google, don't let Samsung impose it's boring naming system)
Trinity offers 512OC for the GPU, but I'd say Franco gives a better battery life....
Hmmmm difficult decision, isn't it? What do you guys think?
Currently rocking the Trinity kernel with mildly OC'd GPU (384 MHz).
I'm using imoseyon's kernel. I love minimalist kernels. Stable, fast, and not full of crapfeatures that just cause everything to crash and SOD and bootloop.
I think it's probably a good idea to give a try first of the kernel that comes with the ROM. Developers often adjust the ROM around the kernel they use and vice versa.
i went back to the James Bond kernel, no reboot or lag.
Lean IMO
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Loving my GNex, however I've only had it a couple weeks.
There are several kernels out there, and from comparing all of them and reading all the threads as much as I can, they all seem to have relatively similar features... I'm having a hard time picking one.
Is there someone who can clarify the differentiating features of each kernel? Are certain kernels better suited for different ROMs? Do certain ones have compatibility or other persistent issues?
Mainly:
faux123
franco
GlaDOS
jamesbond
Trinity
I've tried faux123 015m (loved faux's kernels on the Sensation, but I had some mobile data issues with it on the GN) and Trinity (latest seems fast/stable, except the color profile was messing with me). I'm trying GlaDOS now. Again, though, I'm not sure what advantages or perks one kernel flavor gives me over the next. Can anyone shed some light?
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Loving my GNex, however I've only had it a couple weeks.
There are several kernels out there, and from comparing all of them and reading all the threads as much as I can, they all seem to have relatively similar features... I'm having a hard time picking one.
Is there someone who can clarify the differentiating features of each kernel? Are certain kernels better suited for different ROMs? Do certain ones have compatibility or other persistent issues?
Mainly:
faux123
franco
GlaDOS
jamesbond
Trinity
I've tried faux123 015m (loved faux's kernels on the Sensation, but I had some mobile data issues with it on the GN) and Trinity (latest seems fast/stable, except the color profile was messing with me). I'm trying GlaDOS now. Again, though, I'm not sure what advantages or perks one kernel flavor gives me over the next. Can anyone shed some light?
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I have tried them all myself at one time or another and i always come back to GLaDOS. I chose to run this because of the unique and innovative features Ezekeel has developed plus the great battery life. BLX, Vibration control, Touch Wake and of course the Wheatley Governor which was developed for this kernel to give the best performance and battery life, which in fact it does. The GLaDOS control app is great too and Ezekeel is always updating and making it better.
GLaDOS is exclusive to Rootzwiki that why you don't see too much mention of it here unfortunately ... I'm not even sure if Ezekeel lurks around here anymore?
Leankernel for me
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I have tried them all myself at one time or another and i always come back to GLaDOS. I chose to run this because of the unique and innovative features Ezekeel has developed plus the great battery life. BLX, Vibration control, Touch Wake and of course the Wheatley Governor which was developed for this kernel to give the best performance and battery life, which in fact it does. The GLaDOS control app is great too and Ezekeel is always updating and making it better.
GLaDOS is exclusive to Rootzwiki that why you don't see too much mention of it here unfortunately ... I'm not even sure if Ezekeel lurks around here anymore?
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I noticed he released a control app, I may give it a try!
franco
Thanks for your responses!
However it looks like people are just posting what they use. What I'm looking for is information on what differentiates each kernel.. what is each kernel's "claim to fame"? From what I've seen, all of the kernels' features look pretty similar.
For example, "X kernel balance performance and battery really well. Y kernel reduces the voltage to the screen to further battery savings. Z kernel is more focused on performance. A kernel allows your phone to make popcorn." etc.
Or are they basically the same?
Thanks blowtorch for giving some information as to what differentiates GlaDOS from the rest
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Thanks for your responses!
However it looks like people are just posting what they use. What I'm looking for is information on what differentiates each kernel.. what is each kernel's "claim to fame"? From what I've seen, all of the kernels' features look pretty similar.
For example, "X kernel balance performance and battery really well. Y kernel reduces the voltage to the screen to further battery savings. Z kernel is more focused on performance. A kernel allows your phone to make popcorn." etc.
Or are they basically the same?
Thanks blowtorch for giving some information as to what differentiates GlaDOS from the rest
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Jamesbond will likely give you best battery life and stability. He has a couple of other kernels with some performance boost. Glados was buggy as hell and some other things but that is for you to decide. Other kernels for me were kind of meh. I honestly dont understand how so many people say this kernel or that kernel is the best or best on battery life when so many tweaks in X kernel add more performance at the cost of mah. I liked glados and its features a lot but it came at a cost too high. Touchwake is a really nice feature in it and i am surprised more people don't ask for it. Another kernel i liked was bamf paradigm but i am not using it. I would like to try that rom again in the future but it wasnt ready for me personally. Havent tried franco's at all. Just seems to be feature packed kernel but for what?
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I like francos so far works great with my favorite rom AOKP, buttery smooth, stable as hell, you can go battery saver or performance since you can OC/UV, etc, if you buy the App in play store it works great cuz he updates the kernel oftem and you can use either milestone versions or nihgtlies, and has the option for autodownload and autoflash the lastests updates.
You can change screen color values, as i said oc/uv, change the boot animation, and plenty other stuff..
Thats my 2 cents on your research
Edit: forgot to tell you, he also has a support mail , and if you have any issue kernel related he will answer with a solution if possible.. Report bugs etc
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Jamesbond will likely give you best battery life and stability. He has a couple of other kernels with some performance boost. Glados was buggy as hell and some other things but that is for you to decide. Other kernels for me were kind of meh. I honestly dont understand how so many people say this kernel or that kernel is the best or best on battery life when so many tweaks in X kernel add more performance at the cost of mah. I liked glados and its features a lot but it came at a cost too high. Touchwake is a really nice feature in it and i am surprised more people don't ask for it. Another kernel i liked was bamf paradigm but i am not using it. I would like to try that rom again in the future but it wasnt ready for me personally. Havent tried franco's at all. Just seems to be feature packed kernel but for what?
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GLaDOS has been bug free for at least the last 5 revisions
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GLaDOS has been bug free for at least the last 5 revisions
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Really? Then where is all that code he thought unnecessary but needs to go back add in?
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And the speaker crackling randomly or playing when it feels like it? Or the extremely slow refill ratemoccasiinally?
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Really? Then where is all that code he thought unnecessary but needs to go back add in?
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I really don't know what you are talking about there unless its the bluetooth drivers that were re-added a few builds ago?
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And the speaker crackling randomly or playing when it feels like it? Or the extremely slow refill ratemoccasiinally?
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never seen any of these problems ...
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And the speaker crackling randomly or playing when it feels like it? Or the extremely slow refill ratemoccasiinally?
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I've been using GlaDOS for the last couple days and haven't had any of these issues. Bluetooth is working perfectly, even over my car's hands-free setup which has been problematic with some kernels, and audio is working perfectly... maybe you were on an older build?
Anyone have any other info? I'm surprised nobody has said anything about faux or Trinity..
Well I guess I'll be the first to represent faux kernel over here. Like that its not over done and no special app is needed to control it and the gamma control from panda board he forward ported is pretty slick if you ask me
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I've been using GlaDOS for the last couple days and haven't had any of these issues. Bluetooth is working perfectly, even over my car's hands-free setup which has been problematic with some kernels, and audio is working perfectly... maybe you were on an older build?
Anyone have any other info? I'm surprised nobody has said anything about faux or Trinity..
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Trinity is legendary ... never got around to faux
I'm sticking with CM9 Kernel for now it's as good as the rest IMO plus they are integrating more and more into it ... missing touch wake though from GLaDOS, oh well
I'm mainly looking for battery life now. I don't really notice much difference between most of these kernels in terms of battery life. All of these kernels have good performance without overclocking.
I find that i bounce around from kernel to kernel and in the end when all is said and done no kernel is better than the other and it really comes down to preference.
Hi all,
New to Android so apologies if this is a stupid question, but what kernel control app do you use?. I'm looking for a universal one to use with all kernels I may flash.
I love flashing and trying new kernels, but each one has their own paid app. I can't really justify paying for each one unless I know I will be using that same kernel for a long period of time.
Running AOKP, I can already change some of the settings but I'm wondering if the other settings that you get in kernel control apps (like Franco's updater) really make a material difference?
Cheers
In my opinion GLaDOS takes care of most of the kernel functions. I've been using it with GLaDOS, CMPlus, air kernel and Trinity.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
Control everything of the kernel, or just OC/UV?
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Oh interesting. Here I thought those kernel specific apps would only work for the particular kernel. I don't really have a problem buying a kernel control app from the cool people who have been making these kernels, but I despise the idea of having to buy an app per kernel lol
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Oh interesting. Here I thought those kernel specific apps would only work for the particular kernel. I don't really have a problem buying a kernel control app from the cool people who have been making these kernels, but I despise the idea of having to buy an app per kernel lol
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If you want to buy only one app as something like supporting the dev., I would recommend GLaDos' app.
Literally EVERY kernels around import thing from his work.
He is not a nice guy to chat with, but he indeed make some great works... And personally, I think Franco release a easy-to-use app is the main reason why his kernel is so popular... nothing really impressive in his kernel in fact , it's never easy asking everyone can play with some shell command and init.d script.
Now Glados app is great and full of feature too, including bootloader lock toggle tweak..
NSTools is a general kernel control app that's free.
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NSTools is a general kernel control app that's free.
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Ya but it doesn't have many of the options that we now have on the gnex.
It doesn't have colour settings.
All it has is overclock, undervolt and scheduler change.
The official kernel apps have a lot more to offer.
And anyway 2-3 euro is piss all, it's less than a beer!
Franco,glados an trinity app I have all 3.
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nothing really impressive in his kernel in fact
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Would you care to expand on this statement??
Would sir like the kernel to have a toaster and coffee maker also?
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Fraco,glados an trinity app I have all 3.
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Me too, I think I can spare <10 euro to pay the devs back for their hard work and whose kernels I have used on nexus s also. Its only fair I think.
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Ya but it doesn't have many of the options that we now have on the gnex.
It doesn't have colour settings.
All it has is overclock, undervolt and scheduler change.
The official kernel apps have a lot more to offer.
And anyway 2-3 euro is piss all, it's less than a beer!
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Tweaks feature is nice too. The OP said they are new to Android so I thought it would be a good starter app. Could cause some damage with some of the major apps I'd say with so many options!
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Tweaks feature is nice too. The OP said they are new to Android so I thought it would be a good starter app. Could cause some damage with some of the major apps I'd say with so many options!
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Good point, less options = less things to break!
Well for free.99 nstools is a bargain!
I've currently got the Franco App. It is pretty awesome, I was just scared to use it with other kernels. I may actually give the Glados Kernel and app a try later this week
I've bought all three. They're not expensive and I like it better than "donating" since I've had poor luck with devs and donating. Hell, lost a device that way....
GLaDOS works with all three that I use, but to be honest the anal retentive part of me installs the matching app when I switch kernels.
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Would you care to expand on this statement??
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no, I can't honestly, because as I said, NOTHING really original and meaningful thing by him I know of, maybe you can fill me in.
Color tweak, ezekeel
crc and so on, ezekeel
custom voltage, ezekeel
BLX, ezekeel
tun,cfs, slub, ntfs, overclock, you won't think that is original, right? every kernel has them.
And, in fact, something "special" of his kernel:
1. generic hotplug.....
overblown trash, and himself realize it, it's removed now
2. custom sdcard binary
a lot of compatible issue, a lot.
3. custom ramdisk
I don't know how much performance it brings in, but his 2&3 leave some potential issue to other kernel. And nobody was warning before or after they flash the kernel
And FYI, many people think Nexus need color tweak, and Franco's OP color tweak has a misspell, about 18000+ reply before I tell him, nobody found it because most of them just using the Franco Updater, for it give them a much easy way to tweak the screen color, and that is why he kernel became popular.
I know it's cruel, but all of them are fact.
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no, I can't honestly, because as I said, NOTHING really original and meaningful thing by him I know of, maybe you can fill me in.
Color tweak, ezekeel
crc and so on, ezekeel
custom voltage, ezekeel
BLX, ezekeel
tun,cfs, slub, ntfs, overclock, you won't think that is original, right? every kernel has them.
And, in fact, something "special" of his kernel:
1. generic hotplug.....
overblown trash, and himself realize it, it's removed now
2. custom sdcard binary
a lot of compatible issue, a lot.
3. custom ramdisk
I don't know how much performance it brings in, but his 2&3 leave some potential issue to other kernel. And nobody was warning before or after they flash the kernel
And FYI, many people think Nexus need color tweak, and Franco's OP color tweak has a misspell, about 18000+ reply before I tell him, nobody found it because most of them just using the Franco Updater, for it give them a much easy way to tweak the screen color, and that is why he kernel became popular.
I know it's cruel, but all of them are fact.
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His kernel became so popular because it was the first extremely useable and functional kernel we had. And he's a nice guy.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
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no, I can't honestly, because as I said, NOTHING really original and meaningful thing by him I know of, maybe you can fill me in.
Color tweak, ezekeel
crc and so on, ezekeel
custom voltage, ezekeel
BLX, ezekeel
tun,cfs, slub, ntfs, overclock, you won't think that is original, right? every kernel has them.
And, in fact, something "special" of his kernel:
1. generic hotplug.....
overblown trash, and himself realize it, it's removed now
2. custom sdcard binary
a lot of compatible issue, a lot.
3. custom ramdisk
I don't know how much performance it brings in, but his 2&3 leave some potential issue to other kernel. And nobody was warning before or after they flash the kernel
And FYI, many people think Nexus need color tweak, and Franco's OP color tweak has a misspell, about 18000+ reply before I tell him, nobody found it because most of them just using the Franco Updater, for it give them a much easy way to tweak the screen color, and that is why he kernel became popular.
I know it's cruel, but all of them are fact.
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When I said expand I meant in a non butthurt way. Jeeez.....
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His kernel became so popular because it was the first extremely useable and functional kernel we had. And he's a nice guy.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
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so maybe you can tell how come this extremely useable & functional kernel's function all come from others?
If you mean he bring in the first easy-to-use app to tweak kernel, can't agree more, but that was what I've said.
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so maybe you can tell how come this extremely useable & functional kernel's function all come from others?
If you mean he bring in the first easy-to-use app to tweak kernel, can't agree more, but that was what I've said.
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Every kernel uses ezekeels tweaks. You do know that right??
I mean even in nexus s everyone was using ezekeels tweaks....
Even cm, they took ezekeels colour implementation and used it.
Sorry but I think you don't know what you are talking about.
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so maybe you can tell how come this extremely useable & functional kernel's function all come from others?
If you mean he bring in the first easy-to-use app to tweak kernel, can't agree more, but that was what I've said.
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I'm not sure why you're so butthurt about people using ezekeel's tweaks that he freely lets people use.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
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I'm not sure why you're so butthurt about people using ezekeel's tweaks that he freely lets people use.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
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Just state the fact that why Franco became popular, and tell the OP if he want to donate to anyone for kernel development, Franco may be not on the top list, regardless the "population" here
I switched from Galaxy S2 some 3 months ago and really loving this device. The only thing I am missing about S2 is the colour saturation that display provided. OK some poeple hate that level of saturation but I simply loved it. Is there any way we can increase the saturation or make the colours pop a bit??
Lowering the gamma will make a pretty significant difference
Are you rooted or running a custom kernel? This is going to be the best way to customize the colors that you are looking for. Get the trickster app and a kernel like Franco or faux.
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Perseus 33.4 vs SaberKernel 15.2 vs Stock:
Categories: Battery life, Performance, Stability, Features, Other
Anybody want to take a crack at this?
Perseus 33.4 vs SaberKernel 16 vs Stock:
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Perseus 33.4 vs SaberKernel 15.2 vs Stock:
Categories: Battery life, Performance, Stability, Features, Other
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Bump, Update to SaberKernel 16, and added poll.
to be honest there isnt really a clear winner
it all comes down to personal preference and how its all tweaked
Try each and see what you prefer... Simple as that.I will say... Stock cannot compare to either.
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See this is where lots and lots of debate can happen. For me stock gives me the best battery and performance wise it's about the same as the other kernels. Perseus has so many options and tweaks it's useful. Then saber has a lot of good reviews on being the smoothest. I tried them all and am sticking to the stock one on sky note rom. Seems the best for me. (best for me not best kernel, so like others said, try it)
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I'm interested to see the responses...
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I've used all 3 and prefer SaberKernel
I also use SOAPKernel on Rootbox a lot too (I switch between the 2 roms) and it's also excellent.
Everyone's phone operates a little different, ,so everyone's milage will vary with each.
While one kernel may offer you the fastest speed. .another may offer you a better color rendition on your screen.
In other words. .there isn't a "best choice" for everyone.
As easy as it is to switch. .use them all and choose what works best for you.
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Mac11700 said:
Everyone's phone operates a little different, ,so everyone's milage will vary with each.
While one kernel may offer you the fastest speed. .another may offer you a better color rendition on your screen.
In other words. .there isn't a "best choice" for everyone.
As easy as it is to switch. .use them all and choose what works best for you.
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I just switched back to Persues for a while for comparison
Didn't mean which is best...
Hi everyone,
I've personally stuck with Perseus as I have enjoyed the battery life and speed of my device with it on.
I never meant for this to be a which kernel is best thread, but as a comparison of features thread. Not that I want to deter anyone from telling everyone else what their favorite kernel is and why though.
I've enjoyed reading everyone's responses so let's keep this thread alive and tell everyone your opinion.
Sabre wouldn't let me oc the gpu with a script, and I like to play with all the goodies in s-tweaks. Been on Perseus since the first release, maybe I'm just brand loyal.
Perseus has fantastic screen calibration options. Fixes the oversaturation and color balance of my note 2. Photo colours are now accurate.
Battery is awesome for me too. I'm on perseus 34.
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I just switched back to Persues for a while for comparison
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Switched back to Saber
Probably going back to SOA/Soap soon as I miss it.
Anyways, I still feel Saber is more smooth/fluid than Perseus. Guess its just me.
I've been using Perseus on BeansROM (now on b14), and have had great success. Battery life has been great (up until recently...not sure what that's all about), and it's been pretty snappy. I switched to Saber last night when I flashed Beans b14, and flashed the Perseus back this morning because, while Saber was speedy enough for me, I missed the combined speed and battery from Perseus.
That's my .02