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[Q] Telstra HTC desire - cannot install custom rom

Hi, im a bit stuck here, I have a telstra desire with their 2.1 rom, and a hboot of 0.83.0001 it seems to be able to install clockworkmod ok, and I can get into it but when I install a custom rom, after the reboot, it sticks on the telstra splash screen and vibrates 7 times. at this point if I try to boot into recovery it also does the same thing, the only way to recover is to go into fastboot and update the official telstra RUU again.
I have tried the latest Modaco rom and the latest Leedriod rom, both same effect.
this is exactly what I did to install Leedriod:
install clockworkmod from unrevoked3
copied these 2 files to SD:
32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2.zip
LeeDrOiD_V2.1a_NoA2SD.zip
boot into clockworkmod, Erased Data, into advanced, erased davlik cache
install from zip > choose zip to install > chose LeeDriod > installing......
once that finished, I installed the radio, then chose reboot from the clockworkmod menu.
it rebooted and got a little picture of a box and an arrow coming out of it for a few seconds, then I got the telstra spash screen and 7 vibrates.
has anyone got any idea where im going wrong? I cant seem to find any information and im a bit of a noob to android, just defected from the world of WM (Tytn2)

ok so I have done a little bit of trial and error, turns out my problem is the radio.
Tried 2 different radio roms, both end up stopping the phone from booting at all. must be something different to the hardware in this new desire that needs a special radio rom maybe?

jayme,
You've likely hit the nail on the head with your issue. Telstra models of the Desire (8183) use a different set of radio hardware. Telstra runs their own 'Next G' network, which is a different frequency network to the rest of the world.
This frequency (850Mhz) requires different hardware to be installed on the phone, which is why the Telstra version of the phone will only ever work on the Telstra network.
My suggestion would be to find a rom that supports the 850Mhz network, using a compatible radio module. Failing that you may have to learn how to build your own.
Good luck.

I actually installed the leedriod froyo rom fine and it works as long as I leave the original radio module untouched, but then I get the stability issues associated with running earlier radios on froyo. what im wondering is what are all these other telstra users running custom froyo roms using for their radio. ive read guides taht say which radio to install on a telstra desire and mine just doesnt work with those versions.
I may have to wait for the official telstra 2.2. update and the compatible radio rom that comes with it

Waiting sounds like your only option. I bought an unbranded phone to use on the Optus network. Thankfully Froyo 2.2 came out a few weeks back, and I'm quite happy with it.
Waiting can be a pain in the arse and considering how long this country has to wait for things from Telstra, getting 2.2 might be a belated Christmas present next year...
Good luck with whatever you chose.

Try teppic74's Rom here <forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997>.
I had full success and converted my Telstra branded Desire into generic HTC Desire.
NextG functionality was not affected by flashing teppic74's Rom with the Radio.
Cheers

Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N

Hi there. Another telstra desire user here. I've had mine since July, amoled and hboot 0.83. I rooted soon after getting it and have run roms from t-mod and cyanogen from whirlpool.net.au. it's. A great place to start and lots of awesome advice too. I wouldn't be here if not for muskier, Bog, and s-murphy. They have links to radio and roms there. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Sorry I meant to spell muskie and Bof.
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well turns out the 2 radios I flashed happen to be the 2 radios my phoen wont boot with. both of them have _2 at the end. all the rest seem to work fine, I have since updated to the latest radio and im a happy froyo user. as for t-mod, wtf is the point of it lol, my UAstring is not the special telstra one and everything works fine, even data usage

talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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What radio are you running?
How did you do the S-OFF hack? I really want to get rid of the splashscreen...

talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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+1 to talkiet...
I've had about 15 different ROMS and maybe 8 radios on my telstra desire, never had a problem. (mine is the AMOLED version originally HBOOT .75 now .93 version). The only thing that sometimes goes wrong is the APN settings and thats easy to fix.
I'm not sure how all those UA strings work, but to be honest i've not bothered checking my data usage or so on for a fair while, and the Bigpond unmetered sites are pretty worthless anyway. I never go over and I play around with the phone a lot. So, you can put pretty much any ROM on and just tweak the APNs a bit and no worries!
concerning S_OFF,
its not hard to do at all. just follow the instructions on the alpharev site to the letter, I was worried about bricking my phone, same as the first time I put a custom ROM on there, but if you do your homework, you'll be sweet. When you think about it, the S-OFF process is pretty safe as so many people do it and have a look about, there's not many saying they have ruined their phone using the S-OFF program.
The only thing i've actually broken on my phone over the last year is the sd card (very recently), trying to reformat it for data to ext ROM. Of course it was a cheap one and the card that came with the phone (samsung brand i think) worked fine when i formatted it and stuck it in.
Phone: Desire A8183 AMOLED S-OFF
HBOOT .93 and CWM 3.x
ROM: Crystal Kingdom v0.2 D2EXT+ (damo is a legend!!)

htc a8183 show welcom and vibrating
how to s-off this phone
hboot-0.75.0000
radio-4.50.00.11
any one help me

For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders

nlooooo said:
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
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lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire
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For me it's the easiest way to upload radio and hboot, get s-off with revolutionary then root and you're open to all possibilities...
That RUU is simply made for all Desires, no brick issues, no radio compatibility issues...

[Q] Help...Stuck in boot with green HTC logo after rooting with visionary...S-OFF

People have been experiencing this problem mostly have S-ON but after i rooted with visionary i got S-OFF but i got stuck in Green and white boot screen...anyone know how to fix this,am desparate...
NOTE:
The bootloader screen says S-OFF.

Go to this link and flash the custom PC10IMG by hot_hands in post #33 read the entire thread though, also do not flash a stock PC10IMG what ever you do, or you will be bricked for good. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912399
Note. This is for the tmobile G2.
Sent from my HTC Vision

THANX for the quick reply,but how do i flash without a recovery like clockwork...?

I dont see a link?

Place the CUSTOM PC10IMG on the root of your sd card then power off or pull the battery then hold volume down + power on and it will find the file and flash it automaticlly. File must be named PC10IMG.zip
Sent from my HTC Vision

Currently downloading the zip...just reading the thread while waiting...Hope it works, Thank you for coming to a noods rescue

I was on my phone when I replied so i couldn't see your carrier info, this file was made for the Tmobile G2, I am not sure if it will work for the Desire Z. Did you see my note in my first reply.
For the Desire Z I believe they have the RUU's for whatever version you had running on your phone

It still worked...THANX A MILLION{",}

joemm said:
I was on my phone when I replied so i couldn't see your carrier info, this file was made for the Tmobile G2, I am not sure if it will work for the Desire Z. Did you see my note in my first reply.
For the Desire Z I believe they have the RUU's for whatever version you had running on your phone
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If it works on t-mo g2, it will defenetely work on desire z.
Sent from Mars

jecustoms said:
If it works on t-mo g2, it will defenetely work on desire z.
Sent from Mars
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It'll work, but it will also flash the G2-specific engineering HBOOT as opposed to the Desire Z one. Not sure there will be any adverse effects, but in case you weren't aware, the Desire Z does have slightly different partitioning than the G2.

Hi everyone... i was using strawmetal's downgrade pdf guide and successfully managed to downgrade my htc desire z to froyo(earlier it was gingerbread)
it also shows hows to permanently root the htc desire z.. i followed the guide to the point and after checking the md5-3 matches md5-2.... i typed in # reboot
now instead of enjoying my freshly rooted htc desire z ... am stuck at the welcome screen...the white with the green htc...
i ve seen the forum n yes there are xplainations of how to go about saving ur phone...
my query is a lil different ...
see , we did everything correctly ..so am sure we shud be able to start the phone with out losing the permanent root and all the other hardwork... i also installed the recovery clockwork ....
somebody show me the way .....

try flashing rom of choice from recovery

First off, Visionary is known to fail frequently which is why it is not recommended to use.
That aside, try flashing a new recovery via fastboot as some versions of CWM are known to hang on the HTC screen.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

flanger9 said:
Hi everyone... i was using strawmetal's downgrade pdf guide and successfully managed to downgrade my htc desire z to froyo(earlier it was gingerbread)
it also shows hows to permanently root the htc desire z.. i followed the guide to the point and after checking the md5-3 matches md5-2.... i typed in # reboot
now instead of enjoying my freshly rooted htc desire z ... am stuck at the welcome screen...the white with the green htc...
i ve seen the forum n yes there are xplainations of how to go about saving ur phone...
my query is a lil different ...
see , we did everything correctly ..so am sure we shud be able to start the phone with out losing the permanent root and all the other hardwork... i also installed the recovery clockwork ....
somebody show me the way .....
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I'm in the same dilemma as you. I got s-off and have clockwork recovery installed but i always get an error when i click any options under there. Have you found a solution yet? Please PM me. Thanks

Blaggah said:
I'm in the same dilemma as you. I got s-off and have clockwork recovery installed but i always get an error when i click any options under there. Have you found a solution yet? Please PM me. Thanks
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Did you miss the sticky about how Visionary known to brick phones (especially since it's a very outdated method now).

Wrong engineering HBoot

I was bored so I was reading through the DZ /G2 wiki. It says that there are different hboot for the DZ AND G2, I have a DZ with the G2 hboot. Does it matter?
I rooted in November and have never had any issues using fastboot or flashing radios and the like so I guess that it doesn't.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA Premium App

If its not broke don't mess with it. Messing around with the bootloader can get you bricked. You shouldn't have any problems since both phones are the exact same hardware.

mejorguille said:
If its not broke don't mess with it. Messing around with the bootloader can get you bricked. You shouldn't have any problems since both phones are the exact same hardware.
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That's exactly what I thought people would say.
But why does the wiki say you should use different ones for different phones?
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA Premium App

cjward23 said:
That's exactly what I thought people would say.
But why does the wiki say you should use different ones for different phones?
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA Premium App
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Does it matter if it works? Amazing
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Spastic909 said:
Does it matter if it works? Amazing
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Just because it has worked so far doesn't mean it always will. The HBOOT for the Desire Z and the G2 are different due to the partitioning on the phones. The Desire Z has an additional partition defined, causing the system and userdata partitions to be slightly smaller than on the G2.
All of the custom ROMs so far have been designed to fit within the smaller partition size, so it shouldn't really matter for them. If you were still on stock though, you could theoretically run into problems. For example, if you have a Desire Z that is still running the stock ROM, flash to the G2 HBOOT, and then do an OTA update one day that doesn't contain an update to the HBOOT (which would correct the partition map), you could potentially run into problems due to the partitions not being correct. It's an unlikely scenario, but it could happen (using the Desire Z HBOOT on a G2 would probably be worse since any updates would expect the system partition to be bigger than it is---flashing the system partition then could overwrite part of the adjacent partition then).
This is why it's normally better to stick with the HBOOT defined for your phone though. Probably safe in your scenario though (i.e., G2 HBOOT on Desire Z isn't as dangerous and if you have the engineering HBOOT to begin with, you probably are rooted or using a custom ROM, so OTA updates aren't an issue).

ianmcquinn said:
Just because it has worked so far doesn't mean it always will. The HBOOT for the Desire Z and the G2 are different due to the partitioning on the phones. The Desire Z has an additional partition defined, causing the system and userdata partitions to be slightly smaller than on the G2.
All of the custom ROMs so far have been designed to fit within the smaller partition size, so it shouldn't really matter for them. If you were still on stock though, you could theoretically run into problems. For example, if you have a Desire Z that is still running the stock ROM, flash to the G2 HBOOT, and then do an OTA update one day that doesn't contain an update to the HBOOT (which would correct the partition map), you could potentially run into problems due to the partitions not being correct. It's an unlikely scenario, but it could happen (using the Desire Z HBOOT on a G2 would probably be worse since any updates would expect the system partition to be bigger than it is---flashing the system partition then could overwrite part of the adjacent partition then).
This is why it's normally better to stick with the HBOOT defined for your phone though. Probably safe in your scenario though (i.e., G2 HBOOT on Desire Z isn't as dangerous and if you have the engineering HBOOT to begin with, you probably are rooted or using a custom ROM, so OTA updates aren't an issue).
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Cool thanks for the detailed answer.
So I decided to flash the correct hboot for my phone, the flash went ok but when I booted into recovery I got the same errors that I lot of people have been having. I re flashed the G2 hboot and everything is good again.
But we obviously have a quite serious problem with the DZ hboot and lots of members are getting semi bricked phones.

Stock/custom Rom+SD Contents!

Hi guys also girls maybe
I am going to use the excuse of being female Haha no excuse for anything i know
After having a "Desire" i was able to root that just so i could use Aps2SD to move my apps. yada yada lol I never had the nerve to attempt to install Custom Rom.
Since that went wrong a couple weeks back i purchased a tada "HTC DHD"
I have been reading my eyes sore for the past week on how too:
1.root the DHD=success Ace Hack Brilliant
2.The Plunge..install Custom Rom.. RCMix3D"LOVE IT" using RomManager.
3. Radios-kernals etc
Now my questiones
Q.1
Having read so much about roms. Am i to believe in the later versions of the Roms.aka RCMix3D v4.0..
Do these already include the suitable radio-kernal etc?
If the latter versions do,does this applie to earlier version?
Q.2
Before i installed RCMix3D i did a rom backup of my stock rom using RomManager.
If for any stupid known reason i needed to revert back to stock. Is it a simple case of restoring the back up? Would this do the radio etc?
Also when it comes up on the backup saying the "date-time"etc can i rename the back up to easely reconise it?
Q.3
As the DHD didnt come with a SDcard i used a 2Gb i had laying about spare.Titchy size i know..
As i have now got a Kingston 32Gb "Size Does Matter "
Is it possible to transfer all the files off the 2Gb card onto my laptop then onto the 32Gb, Then inserting the 32Gb into the DHD with out any problems arrising due to a differant SdCard?
This information maybe on the forum but work is killer so im sorry for appearing lazy
Thanks to every 1 at XDA and the followers for the help in advance..
Regards Nikki

1) all roms come with the kernal. Radios are independent and would be up to you if you wanted to flash it
2) yes on both. You can name it whatever your heart desires. And restoring is as easy as hitting restore in cwr
3) yes

ok thanks. nice quick reply. all i needed to know for now

Hi - on 2), ROM Manager has an option to rename the backups - use that, don't rename it using a File Explorer app.
I'm not 100% sure if it's still the case, but in the past, on older versions of ROM Manager and CWM, if I renamed the backup inside ROM Manager it was fine. If I renamed it manually then it wouldn't restore correctly. Probably something to do with the checksums.
Also, the backup doesn't include the radio. So if you change the radio, and want to revert, you'll need to flash the previous radio back separately.
Hope that helps.

How can I check the radio I am on? On fast boot?
I havnt flashed a different one yet so hope I can make a note of mine.
Thanks
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

In Android it's in Settings/About Phone/Software Inforrmation - then the exact screen depends on your ROM version. Look for "Baseband".
In the bootloader/fastboot, it's the 4th line down. Mine says
"Radio-26.14.04.28_M"

Got mine from fastboot.
Radio-26.10.04.03_M
Thanks for the reply.
Is there any other stuff I should note down before delving deeper into roms etc
Thanks
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.
The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.
Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.
So I'd say you're fine.

Thanks again for the useful information
I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.
Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?
Thanks..

Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.
If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say
"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
and the hboot version is
HBOOT-0.85.2007
If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.
If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.
If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)
But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.

Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.
I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.
I assume I have DHD lol
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Thanks for the link ) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens
you are a star.

Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more!
BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary.

Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
If you know that is lol.
Or a way I can check.
Thanks
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ndbubbles said:
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
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In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back.
The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.
Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:
DHD:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Inspire 4G:
HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml

Just adding my. 2 cents.
Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)
The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.

Thanks for the input.
I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire )
Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.
Thanks guys.
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Hi.
Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.
How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?
As I thought the roms included them.
I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.
Thanks for any info and help
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Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?
Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?

I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.
Maybe it has not updated the info.
I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.
As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
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Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.
To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity

G2 Desire Z Bootloader brick?

Hello all, I have a question and im slightly worried as i think i may have bricked my beloved G2.
I had Ice Cream JIBwich installed, and I wanted to install the Desire Z bootloader to get some HTC Sense roms on my phone to try them out.
I installed it following the directions of a video i watched, however my HBOOT still says VISION and i cant backup my ROM.
All I see is the HTC logo in green with a white background, and its not booting up.
Help please!

still have s-off? once you change your bootloader you must then flash a new rom
if recovery disappeared then you must use fastboot to flash a new one.
so long as you have s-off you can flash a new rom from fastboot too.

Vision is the code name for BOTH the g2 and dz, so it saying vision is a good thing.
It won't boot because the g2 and dz partitions are slightly different, so the phone is now looking in the wrong place to try boot the rom
-Nipqer

reflash a rom
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