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Here are my predictions:
- End of June 2010 HTC will have sold 500,000 Desire phones
- End of April 2010 HTC, just in the UK, will sell 30,000 phones
By the end of 2010 I think HTC will have sold 5m Desire phones (not inc. USA sales)
Is this some kind of gambling-game?
How do you calculate your prediction?
I'd say
- End of July 2010 HTC will have sold 1m Desire phones
- End of April 2010 HTC, just in Germany , will sell 20,000 phones
By the end of 2010 I think HTC will have sold 7,5m Desire phones (not inc. USA sales)
End of June 2010 T Mobile UK will have sold 25,000
End of June 2010 T Mobile UK will have delivered 1,387.
GGG10 said:
End of June 2010 T Mobile UK will have sold 25,000
End of June 2010 T Mobile UK will have delivered 1,387.
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ha ha
thats funny
I was able to buy one in Munich/ Germany Today. I think its not too difficult to get one now.
fooXeh said:
Is this some kind of gambling-game?
How do you calculate your prediction?
I'd say
- End of July 2010 HTC will have sold 1m Desire phones
- End of April 2010 HTC, just in Germany , will sell 20,000 phones
By the end of 2010 I think HTC will have sold 7,5m Desire phones (not inc. USA sales)
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I was basing my estimates on the poor Nexus One sales, only sold 135,000 in 74 days (about 2.5 months).
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I was basing my estimates on the poor Nexus One sales, only sold 135,000 in 74 days (about 2.5 months).
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I think that was mostly due to it only being available via Google's site and not carrier shop-fronts.
XDA-Developer users obviously know what they want, most of the time anyway. We'd have no problems ordering such a high-ticket item online having never seen one in person. But for a lot of consumers they're rather see it in the flesh and make the decision.
I think sales should be good. I was surprised to see someone at work the other day with one (before me I might add). They were the last person I would have expected to buy one, but she did say she loved it!
end of april: around 15000 inclusive of international orders...
I dont care, i just want mine
it depends how its marketed if they can push it into peoples hands to try and THE better value nexus one sales will be massive but failing that i have no idea!
irkan said:
I dont care, i just want mine
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and i want irkan's desire if he gets it earlier than me lol
jah said:
Here are my predictions:
- End of June 2010 HTC will have sold 500,000 Desire phones
- End of April 2010 HTC, just in the UK, will sell 30,000 phones
By the end of 2010 I think HTC will have sold 5m Desire phones (not inc. USA sales)
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I think this is a very valid topic -- someone upthread was questioning its usefulness. If you could, I would like if you could insert the comparable figures for the iPhone, in all its version launches... because like it or not it does set the standard in at minimum PERCEPTION of success of a touchscreen device launched into the marketplace. In fact, please also add iPad projections vs sales data. My understanding is that the iPad is outperforming its projections, which themselves were higher than any iphone that preceded.
The # of sales over X period drives everything -- from movies to cars to electronics. But what is at stake here is a potential game-changing shift:
The DROID made some hay this past Christmas season as the new "IT" product, and potential (DREADED TERM --> ) "iPhone killer" . Well it wasn't, in the sense of sales penetration and worldwide user acceptance and brand awareness.
But the Desire is truly the first device that isn't (dumb/useless term: iPhone killer) an iPhone which could gain worldwide brand awareness as the most powerful, easiest to use, nicely designed smartphone for mainstream users.
The DROID purposely created a gritty marketing look, and testosterone-infused emotion in order to peel away some iphone enthusiasts who wanted PERFORMANCE and bigger screen and snapper processor. (iphone will for sure meet and exceed DROID in due time, no doubts there). But the DROID hit its market niche well, but is in no way a mainstream phone that both your girlfriend and Aunt Bertha would buy to make life easier.
HTC did a great job in renaming the Bravo "the Desire" -- which is at the core of all marketing and advertising -- to create desire. And they appear to have delivered a device worthy of that name.
Therefore, it is very relevant and interesting to track just how well it does.. because it foretells a big part of the future. Will Android in fact overtake iPhone (some say it already has, maybe in raw numbers but even that i am not sure, but it has not surpassed iphone in mindshare, and that's critical in building upon a successful product)? And will apple finally be knocked off its product development perch as King of User Experience?
In other DESIRE threads many of you know of the huge demand for the Desire just here at XDA alone -- and the reason is -- this is the one that can & hopefully will change the game -- and make it an open contest again in terms of choices for mainstream consumers who want the cache of "the latest & greatest".
Though I know i will be thrilled with my DESIRE when it finally ships, hopefully April 9th, I want to know how the Desire does in the marketplace. And I think the HTC funny-moves to divert stock from online retailers to CARRIERS is closely entwined with how relevant this particular mareltplace battle is: Will it outsell the iphone?
Prob not, because with apple's offering, it was "us" vs "all of the others"... and they succeeded wildly in reinventing the touchscreen phone paradigm, thus giving them the leg up they've had ever since. The Desire arrives into an already crowded marketplace -- but -- even if its sales are not comparable to version 1, 2, 3 and 4 of the iPhone, the RATE of sales is an impt metric.
My 2 cents which took entirely too many words to say
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I dont care, i just want mine
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You should care, the more desires that are sold (of the more android is sold/becoming popular), the more developers will work on apps for android..
slaming said:
it depends how its marketed if they can push it into peoples hands to try and THE better value nexus one sales will be massive but failing that i have no idea!
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To me it doesn't matter so much if it's the nexus one or the desire. I don't have any shares in Apple, google, htc or anyone else who stands to profit from any success in this arena. But given that I've invested my hard-earned in a Desire, so I do have a vested interest in:
- Android gaining market share and hence solid developer support
- HTC sense reaching the kind of critical mass that will ensure swift adoption and packaging of android enhancements
- Both the above happening at this hardware performance point - if enough 1ghz snapdragon devices are sold, they won't be able to ignore it in Android 3.7 or whatever.
Every nexus one sale furthers two of those three goals, and every desire sale should get a thumbs up from "better value" nexus one users.
It'll be an interesting one to watch - the droid laid the groundwork globally, the nexus one has acted almost as a technology demonstrator (deliberately?) and if the vibe around is anything to go by (I've even had emails off people I don't know in work asking what I think), the Desire will mop up (no one mentions the Legend in conversation, hmmm). We'll see.
Droid is us only, Desire global so it will give much bigger impact than droid
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Droid is us only, Desire global so it will give much bigger impact than droid
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I was thinking of the Droid inc. Milestone.
I've been reading in different pundits that Sony is going to take over Ericsson's part in SE. The idea is pretty much defined in that Sony wants to have a tighter integration between its media production and consumption systems.
Do you see this as a positive movement? On the one hand, it'd be great to have more functions by having our Play and other future devices connect with Sony products. On the other hand, Sony hasn't shown much love for the hacking and modding community...
I've been reading this all day and waiting for updates.
Well, I do believe Sony provides much more support and stuff for it's devices, that's be a plus. It seems a good news overall.
Sony doesn't like much hacking in their other devices like PS3 etc, that just makes their devices open to piracy.
But in case of mobile phones running Android, i do believe they won't be foolish enough to attempt to stop hacking.
If they do, I hope they don't treat the developers/community like they do in PS3
All I want is tight integration with my PSN account, and to be able to play the dozens of PS1 games I have already paid for.
If this does happen I doubt their policies will change on the mobile side. They did just hand out 20 devices to grassroots devs. I'm sure that wasn't just the Ericsson side doing whatever they want, but both being ok with it. Especially because a couple of the devices have the Playstation logo on them.
Means **** tbh
I LOVE ps3,and i hate the hackers who JB it!
I LOVE hackin and development for SErricson phones,its amasing
Sony and SErricson might have a bit of a conflict...
This rumour has popped up almost every year since 2008.
I hope it doesn't happen especially now that Sony Ericsson has worked its ass off to get itself out of a ditch.
Sony would probably release phones with nicer materials and their flagship would be a lot more powerful than anything SE would release, but their prices would probably be 2X that of current SE prices.
Sony is no longer the company that charges a lot more then it's competition. Their quality is still up there but their prices had dropped drastically over the years. I'm sure when they do take over, they will keep the existing ceo.
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wait doesnt sony already OWN it?
i Mean it is the SONY ericsson
Bad idea
The latest software update for Sony's PS3 license and agreement terms states that consumers will give up their right to be able to sue Sony for any faults in their system. That means if your personal details or account information gets stolen you'll be the one that loses everything.
Imagine having this on your SE device if their official software update bricked your nonvodied phone you'd have to pay for everything! SE better hold its ground cause Sony is only for the business not for the people
This could be really good news for Xperia PLAY's dev support.
...but absolutely disastrous news for the marketing decisions made for it.
WT? Sony makes comment "Nobody relly cares for Windows Phone"
What is Sony? And why would we care what a bleeding company says?
Oh right, they made good stuff 20 years ago.
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What is Sony? And why would we care what a bleeding company says?
Oh right, they made good stuff 20 years ago.
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LOL more like 30 years agao, the Walkman and the Watchman were it back then. LOL.
I am sorry but Sony is nobody. They are just hater who can't make a buck over the smartphone market-share.
I care.
My name isn't nobody.
Im happy because they do only crap phones. A friend of mine works at the 3 store in my town and there is alot of complains about the Xperia phones, they have bugs and laggs...
But serious stupid thing to say especially now when Nokias lumia series is doing so good in Europe..
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But serious stupid thing to say especially now when Nokias lumia series is doing so good in Europe..
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In Europe people buy Nokia not WindowsPhone, so thats bad for MS. WP is not the selling point, but the Nokia brand instead. Sony is wack, their last good phone was SE K800.
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In Europe people buy Nokia not WindowsPhone, so thats bad for MS. WP is not the selling point, but the Nokia brand instead. Sony is wack, their last good phone was SE K800.
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Make that the K850, I loved the glow around the camera lens.
Anyway, its their loss. PS3 sales lower than Xbox 360, not to mention PSVita not really that successful and pocket-friendly. Xperia line is crap, too many bloatware. SEN, again, not really successful. So far all their efforts are poured directly to mobile and gaming tech, yet they cant seem to reach their goal.
But like they said, WHO CARES!
If they were to adopt WP, they would be as successful as Nokia, well at least HTC. Then again, too bad theyre poor now to buy WP licences... but WHO CARES! We have Nokia, a company that's so popular, everyone knows it.
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Im happy because they do only crap phones. A friend of mine works at the 3 store in my town and there is alot of complains about the Xperia phones, they have bugs and laggs...
But serious stupid thing to say especially now when Nokias lumia series is doing so good in Europe..
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Do you have some sales numbers I missed for nokia in eu ?
Sony who?, Sony really has not made a product that has made me stop and look since the ps3, they use to be a leader in high quality consume electronics but the quality has dropped steadily over the years. Take for instance there HIFI rang such as the sony multiki, on the other hand the ps3 was made from relatively expensive hardware that was way too hard to program for and as a result has not performed half as well as the pervious generations.
I don’t know what is about the experia brand but I simply don’t like any of the phones, perhaps it is my current perception of the Sony brand or the fact the sony GUI on android is horrible or that I don’t find any of the phones to aesthetically pleasing. Sony seems to be stuck in the 2004 bubble of industrial design where chrome and space age designs were in.
Either way the company is haemorrhaging money and either need to compete on price of differentiate them self again perhaps again as a high quality manufacture or going though the rout of windows phone.
Now thats funny
Sony are a disgrace, split from ericsson, trying to make a comeback.........hoping beyond hope that they are able to drag their sorry asses over the line.
Sorry Sony but i sure as hell wont be buying your mobile products even if you do go with WP as an OS, i'm sure that every other person from the Xperia X1 forums or indeed anyone who has owned an Xperia will agree whole heartedly. The build quality (abhorrent at best), customer service (refusal to believe even after thousands had posted proof, that their crappy chassis fail was a manufacturing issue) and general all round experience with Sony over the last few years has soured me from even contemplating as much.........set aside the complete shambles with the PS3 a while back and their fantastic apology gift of a couple of crappy platinum games.
You just want to release cheap garbage and overcharge massively for it.........SO HELL NO!!.......F*£K YOU SONY!!!
...........and back on point, Sony are not exaclty qualified on any level any more to pass comment. Since when were they suddenly "in touch with the people"
I'm a big fan of windows phone but let's be honest....what he said is not that wrong....up to now windows phone has made next to no impact on the smartphone user market.
MS has completely failed at marketing this awesome product....I love being different but if they don't kick the promotion up a notch, I'll be different with a product with no future...
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I'm a big fan of windows phone but let's be honest....what he said is not that wrong....up to now windows phone has made next to no impact on the smartphone user market.
MS has completely failed at marketing this awesome product....I love being different but if they don't kick the promotion up a notch, I'll be different with a product with no future...
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I agree 100% with your first paragraph. If we go down the line everyone is going down in this thread, we are saying if we are not in a better position we cannot be critical. Just because Sony is not doing well does not mean what they are saying is wrong. Windows Phone sure would not fix Sony right now so it is not an option for them.
Now the second part. Did Google do a wonderful job marketing Android in the early stages? With the Phil Jackson and Whoopi Goldberg G1 ads? I do not believe they did. But they had a product that everyone else needed at the time. The rest was left up to the carriers and the oems.
While Sony isn't wrong in what they said (based on market share so far), its pretty irresponsible of them to say it publicly like that. Especially since it would benefit them to remain on good terms with MS in the computing and tablet arena.
If they ever need to start making Windows Phones in the future (assuming WP does well over time, and Android ect doesn't pan out long term) they are not going to have an upper hand at the negotiating table.
That being said, in the present, nobody really cares about Sony TV's, computers, Phones. The only thing they have going for them right now is the play station.
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While Sony isn't wrong in what they said (based on market share so far), its pretty irresponsible of them to say it publicly like that. Especially since it would benefit them to remain on good terms with MS in the computing and tablet arena.
If they ever need to start making Windows Phones in the future (assuming WP does well over time, and Android ect doesn't pan out long term) they are not going to have an upper hand at the negotiating table.
That being said, in the present, nobody really cares about Sony TV's, computers, Phones. The only thing they have going for them right now is the play station.
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I agree. In life you should never burn your bridges. Apple said never again to nVidia and now they are right back there. Sony doing a Windows Phone with Xbox Live in it was always quite a bitter pill for them I would imagine. The first review of the Xperia S I read was not so kind about the build, but Sony is onto something with the look of it. Too many poor decisions by Sony. Nintendo is the king of mobile consoles and struggled to sell the initially priced 3DS outside of Japan. Sony follows suit with the more expensive than the entry level console handheld?
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I agree. In life you should never burn your bridges. Apple said never again to nVidia and now they are right back there. Sony doing a Windows Phone with Xbox Live in it was always quite a bitter pill for them I would imagine. The first review of the Xperia S I read was not so kind about the build, but Sony is onto something with the look of it. Too many poor decisions by Sony. Nintendo is the king of mobile consoles and struggled to sell the initially priced 3DS outside of Japan. Sony follows suit with the more expensive than the entry level console handheld?
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The fact: Sony doesn't make a buck with Microsoft...
They don't product any hardware that is designed for Microsoft Os.
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The fact: Sony doesn't make a buck with Microsoft...
They don't product any hardware that is designed for Microsoft Os.
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You sure about that?
To all those who are saying "who cares"; Sony are still very relevant in the smartphone market.
Their Xperia lines are selling well in Asia, and latest figures show it has shipped/sold nearly 20m Android handsets worldwide; this is more units than all WP7 phone manufacturers put together.
Sony make nice looking and feeling hardware; the Xperia Ray is one of the nicest smart-phones I've ever played with, hardware wise (not sure about the OS), and having a desirable WP7 fashion phone would be a huge boost.
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To all those who are saying "who cares"; Sony are still very relevant in the smartphone market.
Their Xperia lines are selling well in Asia, and latest figures show it has shipped/sold nearly 20m Android handsets worldwide; this is more units than all WP7 phone manufacturers put together.
Sony make nice looking and feeling hardware; the Xperia Ray is one of the nicest smart-phones I've ever played with, hardware wise (not sure about the OS), and having a desirable WP7 fashion phone would be a huge boost.
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Link?
Shipped or Sold? Nokia shipped about over a million in a month of lumia launch, doesn't mean it sold them.
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Shipped or Sold? Nokia shipped about over a million in a month of lumia launch, doesn't mean it sold them.
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Shipped or Sold is one of my favorite points about wp7. There are no hard sales numbers, anywhere (please prove me wrong, someone).
Apple jumps up and down with X million iphones sold FIRST DAY ON SALE, and google shows X00,000 activations, per day.
Meanwhile, from microsoft, nothing.
The point is, microsoft has to prove that people do care... with sales numbers. Or maybe they don't. Apparently they do not yet...
What the hell is an "HTC Butterfly" supposed to do? Who comes up with such childish unrecognizable names for flagship devices? And then what is an "M7"??
Why not simply a one X2? How is HTC ever going to build an iconic phone series this way if they keep changing the flagship brand every year.
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What the hell is an "HTC Butterfly" supposed to do? Who comes up with such childish unrecognizable names for flagship devices? And then what is an "M7"??
Why not simply a one X2? How is HTC ever going to build an iconic phone series this way if they keep changing the flagship brand every year.
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Good point but the Butterfly will not be called that in European markets.
HTC have lost they're way a bit they should look toward Samsung with the Galaxy/Note series,they tried it with the Desire range few years ago,why not again ?
I believe m7 is just the code name (like Endeavoru pr Pyramind), I am sure they have already decided on a hilarious name with misplaced capitals already.
I vaguely recall the Butterfly was going to be the DLX in the US and Deluxe here but could be wrong.
M7 is a code name, no one outside of HTC knows what it will be called.
I like the name Butterfly. Why the hell not? Or does it need to be more manly? Would "HTC Skullcrusher XXX" make you want to buy it more?
The new marketing team is doing a good job with the M7, I mean they are playing the apple/samsung game in delivering various ''spy pics'' and infos every 2 days on the internet just to hype things up!
Also the unveiling of one definite flagship on the 19th Feb and I hope they invited lot of TVs,is a huge step forward for HTC marketing.
HTC is making awesome devices but they always lacked alot of communication,that's why Peter Chou fired the old team
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HTC marketing department is just sad.
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Not as sad as this thread. If you knew anything or tried to find out anything before starting this thread you would of none what everyone else as told you on here.
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HTC makes really great phones, but their marketing is nowhere to be seen.
In my school a lot of people got Galaxy S3, and nobody except me got an One X.
Those two phones are competitors and substitutes so its sad that people haven't even heard of One X...
Its like you got an BMW car but don't know whats a Mercedes.
I think HTC doesn't do enough marketing or doesn't do it correctly which leads to situations like this where people don't know anything about HTC phones and therefore aren't buying them...
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HTC makes really great phones, but their marketing is nowhere to be seen.
In my school a lot of people got Galaxy S3, and nobody except me got an One X.
Those two phones are competitors and substitutes so its sad that people haven't even heard of One X...
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Exactly my story.
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This is about to change
2 things to remember
1- During the One Series launch, the One X was exclusive to AT&T in the USA, being on the same network, Apple was unhappy with all the One X hype (the One series was the highlight of last year's MWC) and managed to block it from entering the US due to some ridiculous lawsuit, HTC was forced to modify the software of all the units while they were held in customs before they were let in but nevertheless much delayed, which diluted much of the One X attention. This will never happen again because HTC signed a 10 year agreement with Apple
2- For three years HTC will now be the official smartphones sponsor to the UEFA Championship
HTC also took advertising and marketing in-house. The new marketing head is supposed to be pretty good. Worked at some big ad/marketing agencies over the years.
It's good to hear that HTC has recently got in a new Marketing Director.
They must bring up Rihana at the M7 NYC fiesta
Instead of taking pics in a plane that only a few saw in the internet
As title says.....Google just will bought HTC.....
Are you an insider or is this being reported somewhere?
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Are you an insider or is this being reported somewhere?
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Was on the cards..
I don't see it. Post a link or stop spreading rumors.
Source pls? Can't find any reliable source on this. All the sources I find are mentioning plans. Google seems to be interesteed in buying htc, nothing more.
There are plans. Nothing confirmed
this was told from the official service in greece... Yes an insider ...They will make the announcement when things are ready.Google will keep htc sense .They purchase has done for the htc patents such as touch sideways image stabilization and pruduct line for google phones....
HTC just announce they will halt share trading tomorrow
http://investors.htc.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=148697&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2301730
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1.Date of occurrence of the event:2017/09/20
2.Company name:HTC Corporation
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"subsidiaries"):Head Office
4.Reciprocal shareholding ratios:N/A
5.Name of the reporting media:China Times
6.Content of the report:HTC might announce the sale to Google?
7.Cause of occurrence:Clarification in response to TWSE's request.
8.Countermeasures:HTC does not comment on market rumor or speculation.
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@Anoubis282 Will Google keep maintaining htc 10? How about Android Oreo release?
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@Anoubis282 Will Google keep maintaining htc 10? How about Android Oreo release?
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I wondered the same. HTC 10 is no longer listed / available on HTC website. The 10 was slated for Oreo, probably not now.
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I wondered the same. HTC 10 is no longer listed / available on HTC website. The 10 was slated for Oreo, probably not now.
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I see it differently, Google is good for updates and it would make good business sense to maintain HTC devices for the future
Entire smartphone division move to google while keep the HTC brand, one possible reason, as some analyst said, is keep the brand and get enough time to clear all the stock.
Anyway 1.1B is a bargain compare to Moto
SAD, multiple resources confirmed that Google acquired Pixel division of HTC , not the entire business though.
I told you.....1,1 bilion dollars....
The HTC as a brand will consumed by google....HTC brnd will remain fot 2 years untill htc foul absoreb from google.....No new models from htc in the 2018 ,Htc updates halteed for now.....Maybe discontinued....I am sory for that info....I believe that we reach the end.....See the good poiont....every google phone from now will be an htc with stock gp and htc quality...thats good is not it??
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The HTC as a brand will consumed by google....HTC brnd will remain fot 2 years untill htc foul absoreb from google.....No new models from htc in the 2018 ,Htc updates halteed for now.....Maybe discontinued....I am sory for that info....I believe that we reach the end.....See the good poiont....every google phone from now will be an htc with stock gp and htc quality...thats good is not it??
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Umm.. no. HTC has clearly said that it will remain in the smartphone business, and they have planned products for the near future, including a 2018 flagship. The deal with Google allows HTC to survive, with less employees and those 1.1 billion dollars, they can remain afloat for a while. It's a good deal for both Google and HTC.
There are also rumors about a 18:9 aspect ratio phone that will be launched by HTC, an HTC U11 Plus or something like that, most likely in November.
That wouldnt be good for both or them because HTC cant compete anymore. They did the same mistake AMD did. Now there are some young companys who sell more phones then htc.
Google will get the patents to build their pixels, grab some ppl from engineering and sell HTC to someone else.
Not sure how hard it is for people to get that Google didn't buy HTC. If anything, this can be seen as somewhat of a partnership. They didn't buy HTC like they clearly did with Motorola. The facts are there. Personal feelings and opinions don't count as facts.
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Not sure how hard it is for people to get that Google didn't buy HTC. If anything, this can be seen as somewhat of a partnership. They didn't buy HTC like they clearly did with Motorola. The facts are there. Personal feelings and opinions don't count as facts.
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Indeed. Google & HTC deal is 100% polar opposite of what Google & Motorola was.
Anoubis282 said:
The HTC as a brand will consumed by google....HTC brnd will remain fot 2 years untill htc foul absoreb from google.....No new models from htc in the 2018 ,Htc updates halteed for now.....Maybe discontinued....I am sory for that info....I believe that we reach the end.....See the good poiont....every google phone from now will be an htc with stock gp and htc quality...thats good is not it??
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They are working in the successor of the U11. HTC will continue being independent:
"HTC will continue to have best-in-class engineering talent, which is currently working on the next flagship phone, following the successful launch of the HTC U11 earlier this year."
Here you can read the official communication:
http://www.htc.com/us/about/newsroom/2017/2017-09-21-htc-google/