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[Q] Jargon Buster

I'm new at these forums, I came here for tips & advice to learn how to get rid of all the T-Mobile branding from my HTC Desire HD. With no technical experience of such devices (other than standard use) I soon found out there was a lot to learn.
The purpose of this thread is to get as much information for myself (and other newbies) to learn about the technical terms used, all in one place.
Would anybody be so kind as to offer plain English explanations of the following words/phrases.
Although I have a little understanding of some of these words/phrases, I have had trouble in the past so I am listing them for the benefit of others;
S-OFF/S-ON
HBOOT
ENG
Root
Flash
ROM
Radio
ClockWorkMod
CyanogenMod
RUU
BootLoader
Kernal version
Build number
Superuser
I think this is all for now. If you are also a newbie, feel free to post more related Jargon here to help build an all-in-one jargon busting thread!

I am my no means an expert but will try and help as much as I can.
S-OFF/S-ON - Security On/Off, this is to do with being able to write to protected parts of the device memory.
ENG <----This is the custom HBOOT that is part of the security work around ^^
ROM - Read Only Memory, usually this is the operating system that you are installing, eg LeeDroid or CyanogenMod.
Radio - Is the software used to link the hardware to the operating system.
ClockWorkMod - A custom recovery image that is used to install new roms, also allows you to do backups of the existing rom (operating system) before upgrading or patching.
CyanogenMod - A team of people developing an AOSP (Android Open Source Project) rom. It has no "sense" from HTC and is very minimalistic, usually very fast and stable.
RUU - (ROM Update Utility) The stock rom installer, use the correct one to return your phone to stock, usually used for returning to the manufacturer.
Build number - The version of the software you are looking at, usually it is in chronological order.
I have not answering the one's I know nothing about, better to wait for someone with more knowledge to come along. I may not be 100% correct, I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
Good luck.
Blinky

Thanks Blinky!
On another thread CitizenLee pointed me to a website that contains a lot of the jargon and their descriptions! I found this unbelievably helpful. Here it is guys;
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/vBwiki/index.php/Glossary_of_Android_Terms

Very nice site, have bookmarked that myself, cheers.

[Q] Am I asking for too much?

Hi guys,
I love my Desire HD, I really do. Great phone. I get asked all the time what make it is... very nice owning it... BUT I hate Orange UK and their pesky interfering with the ROM. Some things just plain don't work.
So (and I have looked) there are lots of ROMs out there that I can Flash, but it's all very confusing to me.
What I need clear guidance on is:
1. Can I get a nice clean Genuine HTC Rom on it (with Sense)?
2. Will that give me OTA updates to Gingerbread or any future upgrades?
Sorry, but I seem to only find Mod guidance on here, but Im one of those people who like to put things back the way they were designed to be... (Im that sad...)
Ta for any help you can offer

redspecial2000 said:
Hi guys,
1. Can I get a nice clean Genuine HTC Rom on it (with Sense)?
2. Will that give me OTA updates to Gingerbread or any future upgrades?
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1. Yes, if you just want stock rom you can root your UK branded Rom (if its base 1.72 you have to downgrade first check this guide, thats what i used and there's also a link to a downgrade guide in it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996) get S-OFF and install the official RUU (R om U pdate U tility) from 2.3.3. Or when you have root and S-OFF you can flash Clockworkmod recovery (the thing you need to flash any custom made stuff) and from there any custom rom you like. This is recommended because with it you can backup your current branded Rom in case you need to have it repaired and still want to be under warranty.
2. With official RUU you will get future OTA updates directly from HTC, but when you install 2.3.3 RUU you're already up do date. When you have a Custom Rom you will get updates from your rom Chef that you download over wifi/3g directly to your phone and flash it through Clockworkmod recovery
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
This is stock rom with improvements. Look at the features list, it will convince you I'd say its the most popular custom rom and a good point to start.
btw Orange is the best provider in terms of Data plans in my country. You get most out of your money. But the branding and support is horrible They have absolutely no clue what their talking about. When i asked them if my DHD was branded when i bought it the sales assistant didnt even know what that is... She had to ask someone else first. If thats the same in UK you're on a good way with installing the Rom YOU want. You'll get support here from guys that do even better than the guys from HTC. Believe me.

I've only ever met one sales assistant who knew what I was talking about, I felt strangely attracted to her...
I've tried a few roms and settled on cm7 for now, best thing to do is junk the stock rom and get flashing, the improvements in battery life should be enough to convince you lol
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Thanks guys, this is really helpful....
The thing that tipped me over the edge was a trip to my local Orange Shop, where I went to get some answers as to why the Hot Spot feature wasn't working on the phone. I then had to spend 10 minutes explaining to the girl what the hotspot feature was, then DEMONSTRATE it to HER!

Orange guys must have been tinkering with the rom. Tethering and hotspot options worked out of the box for me but you better switch to a custom rom to get those features back and other goodies. Besides, it's funny .

Yep, like all the others recommended custom rom is the way forward. I was in your position before I started the flashing madness, I can promise you, you wouldn't regret it.. And we are so lucky to have such an active development section...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Yep if you follow all the instructions it is nigh on impossible for anything to go wrong. Even if it does however, due to the active forums, you will get an answer in no time!

Don't do it, once you start you can't stop flashing save yourself and run away while you can
On a serious note, the battery life improvement and virtual 24hr help with this forum are good enough reasons on there own to do it, you won't regret it...

Ok Guys.... I'm gonna give you a laugh.
I've had my DHD since March (from Orange) and like all of you I am now not happy with (what you state is Stock ROM)
At the very tender age of 53yrs and now burnt our with computing and the like I rarely understand all the lingo/terms used Etc ;((
After calling on a phone 'expert' shop yesterday and was willing to shed cash if they could root & flash (presumably after de-branding) I saw the blank expression on their face.... "Nope... we don't know what your talking about"
Hmmm (I thought) So now I am determined to scare myself to death and ATTEMPT to get my phone to where it should be! But I am SOOoo lost on all the termanology used.
I am on 2.2.1
Kernal 2.6.32.21-g46445e7
Build 1.84.61.2
At the present time I am running on SPB 3D and have Laucher Pro installed as I was exerimenting with home page mods.
Still awaiting Ginger and can't see me getting it from Orange (UK) for any time yet. Phone does som curios things at times and seems to be getting buggy.
Phone calls drop, incomming second caller now boots me from my original call, icons vannish Etc.
Oh... Not keen on all this Facebook lark which the stock Orange thing has installed.
So.. ok, Not now happy with my DHD, but don't know where to start in geriatric terms.
Love this forum tho'

Hi
I am sending you a PM with a full guide and all the tools you require

[Q] Confused noob seeks enlightenment

Hi there,
I have a Motorola Defy on Vodafone UK, that has just had the Vodafone Froyo update. I have tried to find an answer to my question, but no joy.
I would like to get rid of the Vodafone software and use the UK retail version, as then my phone would work as advertised. Unfortunately I get confused by all the different software identifiers on my phone, and wondered if someone would be kind enough to explain what bits could/should be updated.
When I look at Settings/About Phone I see the following
System Version: Details removed to allow posting
Firmware version: 2.2.2
Baseband Version: EPU93_U_00.59.02
Kernel Version: Details removed to allow posting
BPflex version: UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R
APflex version: GAS_EMEA_USAJRDNFRYOVFGB_P021
I had to remove the software file identifiers to be able to post this, but the phone has just had the latest Vodafone Froyo update applied. Hopefully someone will still be able to help by explaining what the titles mean.
I have successfully rooted my phone with SuperOneClick, but am just trying to get a bit more more understanding before I do anything stupid. I quite like the idea of CM7, but think that may be a bit advanced for me, so will perhaps stick with the UK retail Motorola Froyo once I am sure I know what I'm doing.
Thanks

As you have rooted it yet you could delete app with titanium backup from the market.
I can say i have installed custom roms on my defy a few days after i got it, just follow the faq and how to post and you won't damage anything.
Btw, if something goes wrong you'll find help on this forum anyway...

[Q] Questions about curious debranding results

Last night I managed to de-brand my HTC Wildfire from Vodafone to HTC Generic firmware downloaded from shipped-roms.
The procedure seems to be a success, but I noticed something really weird - my Vodafone ES rom was version 2.24, while the HTC one is version 2.22. I checked for an update from the phone after that but no updates were available.
Is this the latest official version? (I know of some cases where companies change the version number just because they added their own apps/logos in the phone)
The procedure I followed was:
Install HTC Sync
Create a Gold Card
Downloaded the latest WWE rom I found on shipped-roms (RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_160191_signed.exe)
Ran the installer and waited for it to finish
Thanks in advance for any replies.
P.S. using gold card doesn't root my phone right? (I don't want it to be rooted at this point, so I thought I'd ask)

It's normal. All different carrier branded ROM's have their own version numbers, and the WWE ROM has the lowest build number among these (i.e . 2.22), Most probably, since it was the first one to be released.
And no, you are not rooted, so don't worry about it.

3xeno said:
It's normal. All different carrier branded ROM's have their own version numbers, and the WWE ROM has the lowest build number among these (i.e . 2.22), Most probably, since it was the first one to be released.
And no, you are not rooted, so don't worry about it.
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Oh pretty neat I guess.
Any recommendations on which ROM should I keep?
In the past I was always advised to use stock firmware on smartphones, but not sure about the case with modern ones.

Since you don't want to have root at this point of time, you will have to stick with the Stock ROM. If it works fine for your needs, I would say go for it, but, if you feel the need to experiment / mod, then definitely give ROMs like Cyanogenmod 7 and other Gingerbread a try. Or, if so inclined, you can go for Sense based ROMs as well, which look and feel like the Stock ROM, but with various tweaks, improvements, features and optimizations.

[Q] Only want bloatware gone!?!

Hi!
Got a new desire hd A9191 after I smashed the screen on my old one
I know its now an old phone model but decided on another dhd as theyre more than good enough for me
I got the first one 3-4 years ago, upgraded to a Samsung galaxy s3 when my contract ran out 18 months later but really didnt like the s3 compared to my dhd (believe it or not!) so sold the s3 and stuck with my dhd
Anyways...
What id like to do is to get rid of the bloatware that comes with a new phone
Ive looked through a load of threads but they are either outdated, not supported anymore, have dead links (probably due to the age of the phone (and my question!)) or are more about flashing a custom rom
Also some of what ive read is well beyond my understanding and I don't want to be starting yet another "help me ive messed my phone up" thread!
What I do understand is that to delete stock apps I need root access to my dhd
There are apps on the app store that easily delete stock apps but you need root access for them to work
So could someone please tell me either an up to date tool to use or an up to date thread to follow that will get my dhd rooted
Am looking at the VISIONary tool at the mo due to the software version im running (see below) as per
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076
Was just going to do step one and use the VISIONary tool to root my dhd and not worry about step 2 and 3 Is this any good?!?
Some details...
android version 2.2
baseband version 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
kernel version 2.6.32.21-gf3f553d [email protected]#1 Thurs Oct 28 13:24:11 CST 2010
build number 1.32.405.6 CL278359 release-keys
software number 1.32.405.6
browser version WebKit 3.1
My dhd is in brand new out the box condition
Ive not done any updates or downloaded any apps yet
Many thanks for reading!!
Matt :cyclops:

Use the Easy Ace Root Tool in the Development forum.

bananagranola said:
Use the Easy Ace Root Tool in the Development forum.
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Hi bananagranola
Thank you for your reply
This is one of the tools I looked at but support has been stopped and didnt think it would work for my dhd after reading this (im on froyo 2.2)
glevitan:
First Line in the warning...this Is just for stock devices. Will only work in gb because froyo will not allow to unlock the bootloader....
Do I need to update to gb before using the easy ace tool?!?
Many thanks
Matt

Yes, you will need to run a RUU.

Ive connected my dhd to my broadband and had the 2.3.5 update pop up so will run that and then go through the ace root tool
Thanks for taking the time to reply again!
Matt