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[Q] keep apps active

Hi out there
I don't know if I am the only one with this "problem":
I always was wondering, why no (max 1 or 2) apps are active. Finding out by having a look on the stock widget which shows the active/running apps. Wondering why SGW always starts at the main page (weather information) when returning form reading an article at News & Weather-app. Or why I always have to restart opera when receiving or reading an whatsapp in between.
Mostly I'm using the home button.
Problem now is, that I want to upload some photos to synology disc station. I am using the synology app browsing to the desired folder. While selecting the picture to be uploaded SGW switches to picturegalery in order to choose the file. Hitting the file (selecting) SGW returns to initial screen from synology app where you have to give credentials. So the operation is broken and you have to start again and again unable to upload anything. Same when I use webbrowser.
I guess that SGW kills the synology task while in galery. Same that SGW kills News & Weather while reading article. And so on.
Any solution???
I'm running stock rom 2.3.6, rooted, with V6 supercharger at level 6.
Thanks in advance
holydiver

V6 SC will kill apps in RAM.....to recover for active apps!!
Long press on Home key should bring up list of 6 apps by default.....and you should be able to return to any app.
It works for me, even with Tapatalk....I will leave....Tap Home key....do something else on phone....then long press Home.....be back in a sec!!!! .....
I'm baaack!!!!!
Just checked my Gmail and returned here by long press Home and selecting Tapatalk....brought me straight back where I left off.....
That is my experience!!!
level 6??
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long press on home button brings up the last 6 used apps. Does that mean they are still in RAM?
Why does the widget tell me there are no active apps?
Maybe its an bug (sorry feature ) from the synology app!?
holydiver

holydiver said:
long press on home button brings up the last 6 used apps. Does that mean they are still in RAM?
Why does the widget tell me there are no active apps?
Maybe its an bug (sorry feature ) from the synology app!?
holydiver
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It all depends if there is ram available.... if not, they will not be in RAM.....but you should get back to where you were in App.
Android is not Windows.....see this:
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/android
4. Task Management Android multi-tasks differently to a desktop OS such as Windows. This is to make better use of a phone's limited resources such as memory and battery. The part of an Android app that you generally open up and deal with (the graphical user interface, or 'Activities') don't multitask. If you press Home and open something else, the app you leave is frozen in memory and stops getting CPU time. Most apps on Android work this way, unfortunately including the stock browser which won't continue updating when you are away from it. Some apps use special threads of execution called 'Services' which always run in the background but don't interact with the screen. Start playing a song in the music player (or start a streaming radio app like Last FM) and hit Home to go do something else. The player interface (which may include a CPU-hungry equalizer visualization) freezes and won't do anything until you switch back into it. But the thread playing the music keeps running and your music keeps playing. Start playing a game and then hit Home. The game freezes and sits in RAM but doesn't take any CPU. You may read and respond to a text message then hold Home and select the game from the popup (or even open it from a shortcut in the launcher/on your desktop!). The game will resume from where it was. Start playing a game and then hit Home (again). The game freezes and sits in RAM. You can now open the browser and load a big webpage so that the phone runs out of RAM, forcing Android to dump your game from RAM. Later you hit Home to switch back into your game but it will restarts fresh, as though you weren't running it before. A variation on that last one: Some apps periodically save your state so they can return you to that instead of sending you right back to the beginning.
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Also, not sure which version of V6 you are using..... this article is slightly outdated, but worth a read.
http://yagyagaire.blogspot.com/2011/10/v6-super-charger-complete-memory.html?m=1
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[Q] Can anyone tell me is this OK or my RAM is vanishing!!!?

I got HTC One V for me and now after 3 days, just 45MB of RAM is FREE. No apps are running / opened.
Also when I touch the 'home' button on the bottom of the screen, it says 'loading' and after about 10 seconds of waiting, the home screen appears. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME?

That's quite unusual. When idling with no apps open, my phone has anything from 50 - 120 mb of RAM free. Could you provide more details that would help us identify the problem (i.e anything you've downloaded/modified recently, screenshots of your task manager page, running any custom launchers, any custom ROMs, rooted/unrooted etc.)

Supercake said:
That's quite unusual. When idling with no apps open, my phone has anything from 50 - 120 mb of RAM free. Could you provide more details that would help us identify the problem (i.e anything you've downloaded/modified recently, screenshots of your task manager page, running any custom launchers, any custom ROMs, rooted/unrooted etc.)
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I have downloaded the following Applications:
AirDroid
AndroZip
Bluetooth File Transfer
ColorNote
FaceRecog
iLighter Free
Internet Speeding
Opera Mini Web Browser
Opera Mobile Web Browser
ROM Manager (I have NOT rooted my phone)
TouchPal Keyboard
Perfect Keyboard Free
WhatsApp
There are NO Widgets on my screens too. Only the big clock widget is there.
NO custom/ ROM Launchers running.
NOT Rooted.
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Supercake said:
That's quite unusual. When idling with no apps open, my phone has anything from 50 - 120 mb of RAM free. Could you provide more details that would help us identify the problem (i.e anything you've downloaded/modified recently, screenshots of your task manager page, running any custom launchers, any custom ROMs, rooted/unrooted etc.)
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Here are some screenshots:

Paresh Kalinani said:
Here are some screenshots:
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You have also apps that are running on Cache slot. See first screen? Go to that again, press menu on your phone to bring up the menu screen and select Show cached processes. Also, it is a good advice to restart your phone once in awhile. Just to make sure that the cache is rebuilt and the ram is defragmented.
Cheers

1ceb0x said:
You have also apps that are running on Cache slot. See first screen? Go to that again, press menu on your phone to bring up the menu screen and select Show cached processes. Also, it is a good advice to restart your phone once in awhile. Just to make sure that the cache is rebuilt and the ram is defragmented.
Cheers
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Now I have 165-210 MB of RAM FREE!! Always!
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Paresh Kalinani said:
Now I have 165-210 MB of RAM FREE!! Always!
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You're welcome

UI change: 3 dot black bar VOTE.

This black bar is in the way of most apps including FULL SCREEN GAMES. It’s just a waist of screen I was going to change the OS until I found out this would void the Warranty. So all I can do now is hope for an update getting rid of it.
Can this function not just be moved to hold press on the homescreen or recent apps button?
or even better hold down home screen button = main menu
and hold down recent apps button = 3 dot black bar
and then we get the rest of our screen back to 4.7-inch instead of 4.4-4.5-inch that's a big unneeded black bar.
HTC Thank You for your consideration.
Community please put your vote in.
htcforums.com/one-x/ with poll (cant post link yet new user but this is on the forums)
androidforums.com/htc-one-x-xl with poll

It's a real annoyance. It shouldn't of been there in the first place. HTC should of put another button on the phone, would of been a lot easier and better for us
Sadly theres no way of changing it unless you root or install a custom ROM
I personally did the latter, I've got my recent apps mapped to menu and hold for recent apps, HTC should copy this
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If some one else wants to link the the thread on htcforums.com and vote then hopefully in an update this will be changed... until then maybe someone will figger out how to fix this with out voiding the Warranty. But its a slim chance i know.
Hence me trying to bring this to HTC's attention.

Isn't this down to software developers, not HTC? It's an ICS change to remove the Menu button and relocate it elsewhere within the App, HTC are just designing their hardware around the software.
When developers bother to update their Apps to reflect this change in ICS, the menu bar goes away, as it does for already updated Apps.

ah good point I didn't think of that. the where would u say the best place to post is?
EDIT: google FTW androidforums.com would this be the best bet?
EDIT: now also on the androidforums.com/htc-one-x-xl with poll

That's why mine is rooted
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yep, Google wants to get rid of physical menu buttons, because in ICS they made actionbars, bars that can hold a menu button. Many apps are not yet ICS optimized, so the new phones that lack a menu button get an autogenerated soft menu button. On the Galaxy Nexus the black bar also holds the home and back button, so the menu button only gets added to this bar. Samsung ignored this request by google and just put a physical software button on their S3, because they think it's better for the users. So in the end, the bottleneck is indeed the developers not optimizing their apps...

Flo95 said:
That's why mine is rooted
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I am rite in saying there is no way to do it with out voiding the Warranty? I have looked.
Edit: ah i c thanks dmestriner

You can get rid of it without root. Heres how:
1. Backup your apps with astro and transfer them to your PC.
2. Download apktool here
3. Decompile your app using apktool. (there are plenty of guides out there)
4. Open the androidmanifest.xml and look for the attribute targetSdkVersion. Change the value to 14. (You can use minSdkversion in case the targetSdkversion is missing.)
5. Recompile the app with apktool.
6. Sign and zipalign the app. (apktool or signare)
7. Transfer back to phone and install.
8. Enjoy your menu-buttonless apps

hahhahhaaa said:
You can get rid of it without root. Heres how:
1. Backup your apps with astro and transfer them to your PC.
2. Download apktool here
3. Decompile your app using apktool. (there are plenty of guides out there)
4. Open the androidmanifest.xml and look for the attribute targetSdkVersion. Change the value to 14. (You can use minSdkversion in case the targetSdkversion is missing.)
5. Recompile the app with apktool.
6. Sign and zipalign the app. (apktool or signare)
7. Transfer back to phone and install.
8. Enjoy your menu-buttonless apps
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Sounds interesting, never thought of trying that.
Wouldn't it crash some apps though, if they rely on specific API's from 4.0.3?
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Meltus said:
Wouldn't it crash some apps though, if they rely on specific API's from 4.0.3?
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Yup, but it works on 90% of the apps i've tried.

hahhahhaaa said:
You can get rid of it without root. Heres how:
1. Backup your apps with astro and transfer them to your PC.
2. Download apktool here
3. Decompile your app using apktool. (there are plenty of guides out there)
4. Open the androidmanifest.xml and look for the attribute targetSdkVersion. Change the value to 14. (You can use minSdkversion in case the targetSdkversion is missing.)
5. Recompile the app with apktool.
6. Sign and zipalign the app. (apktool or signare)
7. Transfer back to phone and install.
8. Enjoy your menu-buttonless apps
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and this wont void the Warranty? cos if not i am so doing this.
EDIT: Would this mean you would each app separately and again when there updated...if so pass ;-)
but it would be better if the developers of ICS sorted it.

How'd you get rid of it if you do have root (is there a way other than flashing a kernel / new rom?).

klibo84 said:
and this wont void the Warranty? cos if not i am so doing this.
EDIT: Would this mean you would each app separately and again when there updated...if so pass ;-)
but it would be better if the developers of ICS sorted it.
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No it wont void the warranty. You have to do every app separately and again if updated. Kinda slow but gets the job done.

DARKSIDE v7 - Apps not being killed...

I am on TDJ's Darkside Venom v7 and I have looked everywhere trying to find a solution... I don 't know if I'm crazy but my apps (i.e. YouTube, FlipBoard, XDA, Play Store, etc...) won't kill themselves after hours of not being opened back up. They stay in the exact same state I left them when I clicked home or closed the app. I never had this issue before because the Android OS has been pretty good at killing unused apps however on this ROM this hasnt been happening. I am new to the whole rooting thing and have learned quite a bit however still a newb none the less..
I've searched the whole thread however still running a blank...
Does anyone have any advice??
Thanks in advance.

pressing home will keep it open. You need to press back to exit it. The OS does not feel the need to close them because we have 1gb of RAM. You can always swipe the screens from the recent list.

Teo032 said:
pressing home will keep it open. You need to press back to exit it. The OS does not feel the need to close them because we have 1gb of RAM. You can always swipe the screens from the recent list.
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Touché.
That'll work!

Help, Multi-Tasking not Working?

My phone is rooted, but I dont think multi tasking was working before I rooted it. I read somewhere to multi task, long press the Back button in a app, but nothing happens when i do that. Ive tried long pressing the Home button too but it only displays Recently opened apps, not all the apps on my phone. How do I get multi tasking to work, this is a really big deal to me.
Thanks

No multi tasking on at&t yet

ATT always takes forever, my phone is rooted, anyway I can get it without ATT?

You mean multi window. Multitasking works fine.
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P1 Wookie said:
You mean multi window. Multitasking works fine.
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I cant get Multi Tasking to work either? How do you Multi Task?

Hold the home button
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Seems like folks are asking for Multi Window functionality. Currently there is no official update that will deliver Multi Window (multi tasking) option. However, there are several custom ROM available that will allow you to use it. I personally use Jedi ROM and Multi Window works very well.

P1 Wookie said:
Hold the home button
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Nope, does not work for me, holding Home only brings up recently opened apps, not all apps on my phone. Why is this not working, could it be a setting?

Ghetto Geeksta said:
Nope, does not work for me, holding Home only brings up recently opened apps, not all apps on my phone. Why is this not working, could it be a setting?
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I think you are confused as to what multitasking is. Multitasking is being able to quickly switch between open or recently opened apps. If you want to view all apps on your phone, you just open the app drawer by clicking the Apps button on your home screen.

P1 Wookie said:
I think you are confused as to what multitasking is. Multitasking is being able to quickly switch between open or recently opened apps. If you want to view all apps on your phone, you just open the app drawer by clicking the Apps button on your home screen.
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I think he is an ex Iphone user.

So I only can switch to open or recently opened apps? For example I cant switch from my internet browser to an app that is not open or recently open. I have to close my browser in order to open a app that has not been open recently?

ruinkhan said:
I think he is an ex Iphone user.
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I always had Android phones but I do have a iPod touch 4g.

Ghetto Geeksta said:
So I only can switch to open or recently opened apps? For example I cant switch from my internet browser to an app that is not open or recently open. I have to close my browser in order to open a app that has not been open recently?
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You could hit the home button and leave the browser running in the background. Open the other app, and if you want to switch back to your browser, hold the home button and click on the browser. You'll be exactly where you left off. Then if you want to switch back to the other app, do the exact same thing. Hold the home button and switch to it. You will be where you left off in that app.

Ghetto Geeksta said:
So I only can switch to open or recently opened apps? For example I cant switch from my internet browser to an app that is not open or recently open. I have to close my browser in order to open a app that has not been open recently?
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Just asking... you don't mean multi window right? you really do mean multi tasking...? right?

TEKHD said:
Just asking... you don't mean multi window right? you really do mean multi tasking...? right?
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He basically said neither was working for him. If you want multitasking, it works as I explained earlier. If you want multi-window, the only way to get it is through a custom ROM at the moment, or wait for the AT&T update.

P1 Wookie said:
You could hit the home button and leave the browser running in the background. Open the other app, and if you want to switch back to your browser, hold the home button and click on the browser. You'll be exactly where you left off. Then if you want to switch back to the other app, do the exact same thing. Hold the home button and switch to it. You will be where you left off in that app.
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Thanks!

Basically hitting the back button will leave the current app running so you won't lose your place then open another app. THen you can hold the home button to switch back and forth between them (or other apps).
At this point I'm really considering rooting and flashing a custom ROM so I can take advantage the multi-window function (and get rid of AT&T bloat apps).

RojasTKD said:
Basically hitting the back button will leave the current app running so you won't lose your place then open another app. THen you can hold the home button to switch back and forth between them (or other apps).
At this point I'm really considering rooting and flashing a custom ROM so I can take advantage the multi-window function (and get rid of AT&T bloat apps).
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Ive already rooted my phone and uninstalled ATT bloat apps with Titanium Backup. Heres how I did it...
galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-easiest-method/

RojasTKD said:
Basically hitting the back button will leave the current app running so you won't lose your place then open another app. THen you can hold the home button to switch back and forth between them (or other apps).
At this point I'm really considering rooting and flashing a custom ROM so I can take advantage the multi-window function (and get rid of AT&T bloat apps).
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Ive already rooted my phone and uninstalled ATT bloat apps with Titanium Backup. Heres how I did it for the l317 model. Took me less than 10mins.
galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-easiest-method/

Stay away from the website mentioned by op. Very conflicting. Use the stickies and tutorials found here.
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