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Hi friends,can the doomkernel really reach 2ghz?indeed i don't want to burn my xperia but my question is only for curiosity and eventually for testing(but not at 2ghz xd).i know that overclock kill the duration of the battery but what is the max rocksolid frequency?and anyone tested the 1.9/2 ghz ?is it stable?is the performance really increased with overclock?thank you very much
It depends on your specific device for whether 2.0ghz works or not. For mine, 2.0ghz does work (voltage 1500), though I don't use it since I never need that much power. The performance does increase quite a big with overclocking, but it's usually not actually necessary.
About the 2Ghz.
I have DooMKernel 2Ghz installed, but whenever I actually put the slider (on setCPU) on 2Ghz, my phone reboots. The highest I have ever performed a benchmark was 1,7Ghz, but it became very hot. You can try to push it to 2Ghz though, on my phone trying hasn't caused any problems.
1.5 to 1.6 Ghz is the Safest for Xperia Play
So 1.5 ghz... Is fine for xperia play.. But, is what all u talking about related to processor speed.. I m not understanding this concept of overclocking.. N does this overclocking really makes to run the play fast than it is now at 1 ghz...??
Silverstarjigar said:
So 1.5 ghz... Is fine for xperia play.. But, is what all u talking about related to processor speed.. I m not understanding this concept of overclocking.. N does this overclocking really makes to run the play fast than it is now at 1 ghz...??
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overclocking is the process of making the CPU operate faster than specified by the manufacturer. It does indeed make the phone faster, but also makes the battery life shorter.
I've done it, don't really care to though seeing as how it drains the battery way too fast. But it just depends, some phones can handle it and some can't even if they are the same exact phone model
OK, so I currently have my PLAY set to 1.2ghz. My first android phone I OCd from 600mhz to 1ghz and one day while playing a game I heard a loud pop noise, then my phone shut off and that was that... toast. So I have been extremely leary of overclocking now. I am aware there are users who have OCd their phone to 1.4+
My question is how safe is when I use No frills to OC is it ramping up the volts to get that extra power. Also according to the Snapdragon layout it lists the S2 in our phones as capable of 1-1.5ghz... does this mean I could technically go up to 1.5 and be OK? I have a large 3600mha mugen battery, so thats not an issue, but what I am afraid of is popping my phones brains out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Look at Snapdragon S2 section
MSM8255
Also, it sayd for phones that use the above chip.. GSM only for Xperia PLAY... if that is the case does that mean R800x users are on a differerent chip? And if so what chip is it? Thanks in advance.
jgregoryj1 said:
OK, so I currently have my PLAY set to 1.2ghz. My first android phone I OCd from 600mhz to 1ghz and one day while playing a game I heard a loud pop noise, then my phone shut off and that was that... toast. So I have been extremely leary of overclocking now. I am aware there are users who have OCd their phone to 1.4+
My question is how safe is when I use No frills to OC is it ramping up the volts to get that extra power. Also according to the Snapdragon layout it lists the S2 in our phones as capable of 1-1.5ghz... does this mean I could technically go up to 1.5 and be OK? I have a large 3600mha mugen battery, so thats not an issue, but what I am afraid of is popping my phones brains out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Look at Snapdragon S2 section
MSM8255
Also, it sayd for phones that use the above chip.. GSM only for Xperia PLAY... if that is the case does that mean R800x users are on a differerent chip? And if so what chip is it? Thanks in advance.
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We're on the MSM8655 instead of the 8225. iirc, the difference is that it's cdma oriented as opposed to gsm
Each chip is different in what it can handle, so your best bet is to test it out, slowly. When your system starts to act funky, step down the voltage/speed levels.
Pax
Ps. Tried running mine @ 2 ghz once and was promptly rewarded with a random reboot. It takes some time, but with mine I've figured out our can run 1.6 with no issues (I tend to keep it at to stock levels because my battery sucks )
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paxChristos said:
We're on the MSM8655 instead of the 8225. iirc, the difference is that it's cdma oriented as opposed to gsm
Each chip is different in what it can handle, so your best bet is to test it out, slowly. When your system starts to act funky, step down the voltage/speed levels.
Pax
Ps. Tried running mine @ 2 ghz once and was promptly rewarded with a random reboot. It takes some time, but with mine I've figured out our can run 1.6 with no issues (I tend to keep it at to stock levels because my battery sucks )
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K, thank you Pax for the feedback.
Just thought I would open this to everyone on R800x, interested if people could point there OC status below.
Mine is still on 1.2ghz. with Performance and BFQ
Highest I can go is 1.6, but I keep it around stock or slightly underclocked, with SetCPU profiles that increase to 1.2 for games and internet apps. smartassv2 and sio for governor and scheduler.
I heard that underclocking can end up reducing battery life over time. Is there truth to this or is it just a myth?
1.6Ghz and Performance when the screen is on.
Stock when the screen is off.
Battery last all day, but I don't use heavily.
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Solar.Plexus said:
I heard that underclocking can end up reducing battery life over time. Is there truth to this or is it just a myth?
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There's a large number of things that can adversely affect battery life, but by the time it becomes a problem, you'd most likely be on a new phone, anyway.
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I tried my r800x at 1.6ghz (running Cyanogenmod 9 with stock kernal), and I was stuck in a boot loop that I had to fix through CWM Recovery. I am now running stable at 1.4ghz.
Yeah I'm on my 2nd xplay after I tried to oc to 1.6. My phone got extremely hot so I pulled the battery to let it cool. Upon booting my touch screen was non responsive. I don't ever go past 1.4 now.
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Umm I got a r800x and the Max I can clock too is 1GHz but I see people up to 1.6 how do you do that?
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crazymonkey05 said:
Umm I got a r800x and the Max I can clock too is 1GHz but I see people up to 1.6 how do you do that?
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Custom kernel such as LuPuS or DooMKerneL
1.6 min and max. SIO, with performance governor, then I switch it after 30% and lower to powersave sio, 804-416 Max or whatever those numbers are.
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savage24x said:
1.6 min and max. SIO, with performance governor, then I switch it after 30% and lower to powersave sio, 804-416 Max or whatever those numbers are.
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Good luck with avoiding frying your phone
R800a 1.4 GHz, sio, ondemand, with Lupus GB v5 + Xperia NXT
My play can stable oc to 1.8ghz
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch w/ Stock 4.0.4
Xperia Play R800X w/ supercharged stock 2.3.3 and doomkernel
Running the LuPuSv7 Kernel on AOKP Milestone 6.
Max CPU: 1612MHz
Min CPU: 249MHz
Scaling Governor: Superbad
~Set to Boot~
Runs SUPER smooth!
Battery performance; half of the day under heavy use/gaming, up to 2.5 days when I'm only calling and texting.
I was wondering if any of you maybe know whats the upper limit for overclocking my Lt18i... its at 1.4 Gh atm, was at 1.0 Gh until a few days ago...
At which level do you guys have it...?
I read that it can go up to 2.0 Gz but i dont know how smart that is...
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auriga14 said:
I was wondering if any of you maybe know whats the upper limit for overclocking my Lt18i... its at 1.4 Gh atm, was at 1.0 Gh until a few days ago...
At which level do you guys have it...?
I read that it can go up to 2.0 Gz but i dont know how smart that is...
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Stock 1.4, good enough. OC doesn't give any big boost, so it is quite pointless.
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Stock 1.4, good enough. OC doesn't give any big boost, so it is quite pointless.
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1.8 GHz and up is dangerous.
My tip: 1.5 or 1.6 Ghz
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Stock 1.4, good enough. OC doesn't give any big boost, so it is quite pointless.
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Since performance scales pretty linearly with the CPU frequency, OC'ing from 1.4 to 1.6 GHz means a 14 % performance boost. I'd say that's pretty significant.
Moronicus said:
Since performance scales pretty linearly with the CPU frequency, OC'ing from 1.4 to 1.6 GHz means a 14 % performance boost. I'd say that's pretty significant.
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That's what you think. But it really isn't that.
Go try playing a HD game on the phone, how much difference do you really see between 1.4 Ghz and 1.6 Ghz?
Go try playing a HD game on the phone, how much difference do you really see between 1.4 Ghz and 1.6 Ghz?
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Certainly I won't see any if it is GPU bound. But how often this is the case, I can't tell. I've never played any game on Android. All CPU-dependant apps will gain a 14% performance increase.
I just want app-switching, browsing and all the general stuff to be smooth, so I've OC'd it a little. It doesn't even hurt the battery life (unless you're running at 100% CPU all the time), so why not.
Highest is 2.16, me and my mate OC'd to 2.16 - 2.15 with seperate fan coolers around our phones (35% performance boost)
Can undervolting, in any way, make ure phone heat up more or loose more battery?
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I undervolted 50mV and my phone is still okay
Wats the best undervolting level?
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I don't think it will damege the hardware, but the software may not boot due to the CPU not having enough energy to process all the bits of data there for having to restore a nandroid or ftf. But I don't know about a safe voltege as I am on a stock kernel and locked bootloader
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Doomlord said -100mv is stable for him. But I not dare so I go till -50mV
If i try undervolting, my battery life goes to hell.
Its different from phone to phone.
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Ive got -100mv and i cant tell if its givin more or less batt.
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Undervolting will never harm the phone, though it may prevent it from booting (if the undervolt is set on boot), or make the phone sporadically freeze/reboot. Some frequencies can undervolt more than others, and each phone's tolerance will vary as well. I've been able to go down -225mV on the 1024MHz frequency (or even -250mV on 1017MHz), though that's the farthest any of them has gone.
Yeah I've heard of overclocking causing damage, but never undervolting. It may cause some issues, but actual damage? I don't think so.
-Undervolting should GAIN BATTERY.
-Going too low might make your device freeze or not boot.
-Because of the way that you are actually taking away the energy this actually makes the phone slightly cooler.
- I myself don't like messing up with the voltages, there shouldn't be a very huge battery difference (Only about 1-6%) and I prefer stability.
-If you are still thinking of doing so then use a CPU stress app and test on every single step that you go down by for at least 20 minutes.
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Anybody know any good undervoltages for 1.6ghz overclock? I need to overclock this high to get my games going.
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Anybody know any good undervoltages for 1.6ghz overclock? I need to overclock this high to get my games going.
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I'm able to set 1.6GHz to 1200mV stable, but it varies from phone to phone. (1200mV is the same as stock 1GHz voltage btw )
is undervolting really necessary?
CyberScopes said:
is undervolting really necessary?
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No as I earlier explained it only saves about 5% battery and heat.
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sewer56lol said:
-Undervolting should GAIN BATTERY.
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That's what you want it to do, and that is the usual result of moderate undervolting, but that is not always the result.
The phone checks itself (similar to parity checks). Excessive undervolt can make the phone cpu do the same thing over and over until it comes out right
electricpete1 said:
That's what you want it to do, and that is the usual result of moderate undervolting, but that is not always the result.
The phone checks itself (similar to parity checks). Excessive undervolt can make the phone cpu do the same thing over and over until it comes out right
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undervolted -100 my HTC desire HD. Phone got rather hot.
Switched back immediatelly...
Why's that?
Odp: Undervolting Damage?
cimdahers said:
undervolted -100 my HTC desire HD. Phone got rather hot.
Switched back immediatelly...
Why's that?
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It could have happened because your phone has gone to the highest possible frequency, I'm not sure about it though.
How do I change the voltage in android without having to edit the kernel?
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I agree that the safest level of undervolting is -50 or even -75 but anything beyond -100 would make the device restart when it hits the min clock speed.
Can somebody give me tutorial how to undervolting custom kernel? When using/try doomkernel n lupus still can't see a chance to uv. N i don't want to use setxperia.
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is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)
deosantos said:
is it true that over-clocking can damage my phone??
I like it when it's fast enough to play any games but i'm a little worried that OC might damage my phone..
do you have any suggestion about the right minimum and maximum frequency??(sorry 4 my english)
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it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
Someguyfromhell said:
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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To add on, constant OC = spoiling your phones.
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TheHaso said:
it really depends, im using CM10 on 134-1024 Mhz. Most the games are smooth. Its safe to OC up to 1.4 GHz imo. 1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz might damage over time and a lot of usage at max frequency
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so it's 100% safe if i OC it up to 1.4?
Someguyfromhell said:
OC is always bad and dangerous, no matter what clocks you use.
Besides, OC doesn't give any major performance boost, you can barely see it.
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oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
Why bother overclocking something that is outdated specification wise? And with an single core, the performance boost is non-existant because the core will be driven hard and generate heat and voila.. RIP!
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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Just stick with device default, don't have to set CPU frequency
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deosantos said:
oh,so u mean OC is not that useful at all?should I just stay ay 1024 then?
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use memory setting app from playstore without overclock cpu
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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oh yes, because phone cpu have bad support to overclock. Desktop pc more better, but this it's other story...
deosantos said:
well thanks for the reply,i'm new here so I don't know how to quote your replies yet..
one last question,,have you ever heard of somone who broke his/her phone because of overclocking???
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It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.
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It's not a matter of hearing it from someone. It will definitely happen if you overclock your phone since increasing the maximum frequency from the design limit will fry your phone.
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oh,ok..well i guess i shouldn't bother altering the frequency..thanks for the help.!!:laugh: