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Sprint?

So we already have a thread on T-Mo. Anyone have any in's on the true story of Sprint phones? will we have anything on release day?
My contract expired back in may and I've been biding my time waiting to see WP7...really want to make sure it will be worth my wait, and that Sprint doesn't delay and has quality phones.

Highly doubt you will see any CDMA phones this year.
Just check FCC
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Not to come accross as rude, but is this based on anything, or just guess work on your part?
We didn't know about some of the phones that are filling up the web today (based on FCC Info that was just released) a week ago, seems that the lack of information doesn't prove anything one way or another. If you your reply is more than a guess (and again, not trying to sound rude at all...i just want a Win Phone 7 toy as bad as everyone else), than I'd love to know the source of info, or even the fact that you can't give away the source.
There was the rumored "HTC Gold W" for Sprint...anything coming from that?

There's no reason to think that Sprint won't be carrying a WP7 device at launch, unlike Verizon.

From the things I've read GSM devices will get the 1st crack, and CDMA will come next year. It could just be the rumor-mill though.
I don't mind waiting though. I think I'll wait for Gen 2 or 3 devices. I'm hoping MS gets more chipset drivers coded, I'd like to see SnapDragon vs. Hummingbird vs. Tegra 2.

I wouldn't mind waiting if I wasn't in desperate need of a phone. In 4 months time, I'm on my second Vogue, and it now has a broken USB jack...seems to only charge when plugged into a pc usb port. This would be fine if i didn't have to rely on it for on-call pages overnight.
A lot of recent articles on the HTC Spark, and most claim it's supposed to have CDMA included, so we'll see.

Wanna bet?
No CDMA phones this year. To be honest I really don't know, but if T-MO gets a device first then Sprint won't get it until next year. Its been this way for some reason.
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gom99 said:
From the things I've read GSM devices will get the 1st crack, and CDMA will come next year. It could just be the rumor-mill though.
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I think it's mostly just people talking out of their rear end. The Verizon rumors seem to have teeth but that shouldn't affect Sprint. It's not like a GSM phone will work on all the carriers worldwide anyways. They're pretty much always customized/modified and it really shouldn't be all that different for the OEMs to toss the CDMA radio chip in instead of the GSM chip.
vetvito said:
Wanna bet?
No CDMA phones this year. To be honest I really don't know, but if T-MO gets a device first then Sprint won't get it until next year. Its been this way for some reason.
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What's been this way? Sprint got the Evo 4G. Verizon got the Incredible. The Touch Pro was available on Sprint first in the states.

TMO got WM, year later Sprint got WM.
TMO got Android, year later Sprint got Android.
TMO gets WP7, year later Sprint gets....
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vetvito said:
TMO got WM, year later Sprint got WM.
TMO got Android, year later Sprint got Android.
TMO gets WP7, year later Sprint gets....
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What do events from many, many years ago and different OSes have to do with this? T-Mo got Android before anyone else, worldwide. At this point, there's just as much likelihood for Sprint to get a WP7 device on launch day as T-Mo. Leading the pack seems to be AT&T but there's no reason the others won't as well.
You're just looking at past events and assuming there's a connection to current events. Look at the reasons behind those events and you'll see that they simply don't apply here.

All I know is that a WP7 phone on the Sprint network would be perfect since the advanced hardware can really take advantage of the 4G network

I really believe Sprint would not be stupid enough to not get a WP7 device the minute launch day comes for the US. I do believe GSM gets the first crack since Europe is getting WP7 a month before the US, but after that we already have leaks of HTC based _W phones (World Phones like the Touch Pro 2 for those that do not know) and I would really think Sprint wants to pad their 4G with a 4G WP7 device as soon as they can. A device that can really use the whole offering 4G has to offer. (With streaming Netflix, Intigrated Zune, and XBLive, as long as they do not gimp the phones like ATT does with the iPhone).
Why AT&T continues to get countless new phones is beyond me. They can't handle the iPhone data useage alone let alone all the Android + iPhone + future WP7 Traffic they are going to get.

Engadget said:
Our source says that the fallout from this troubled partnership is that Microsoft has backed away from Verizon as a Windows Phone 7 launch partner, claiming that the first handsets you see won't be offered on the CDMA carrier -- rather that we should expect GSM partners to get first crack.
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Here's something from engadget that speaks of some "source"...It's all hearsay, but I can see that happening.

I refuse to believe that comment about Europe getting WP7 first statement. It wasn't really made in an official statement but sorta off the cuff by a senior exec who likely isn't intimately familiar with the launch. It would go against Microsoft's entire history, both recent and further back, of USA first. At most, Europe will get it at the same time which would be a big deal for Microsoft since they normally forget about the rest of the world.
At least I hope I'm right lol. The only reason I can think of is some sort of regulatory or carrier issues that would cause them to delay it here.

RustyGrom said:
I refuse to believe that comment about Europe getting WP7 first statement. It wasn't really made in an official statement but sorta off the cuff by a senior exec who likely isn't intimately familiar with the launch. It would go against Microsoft's entire history, both recent and further back, of USA first. At most, Europe will get it at the same time which would be a big deal for Microsoft since they normally forget about the rest of the world.
At least I hope I'm right lol. The only reason I can think of is some sort of regulatory or carrier issues that would cause them to delay it here.
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US is usually slower on Cell Technologies though, so it's perfectly plausible given the environment.

gom99 said:
US is usually slower on Cell Technologies though, so it's perfectly plausible given the environment.
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Not sure what you're really referring to exactly but how would that apply to a new OS made by an American company?

MS has teams all around the world.
We are behind in cell technologies, hell some people here think the iphone 4 is the first phone with video chat.
Where have all the leaks been coming from? Sure wasn't the US.
I hate it, but we are behind.
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vetvito said:
MS has teams all around the world.
We are behind in cell technologies, hell some people here think the iphone 4 is the first phone with video chat.
Where have all the leaks been coming from? Sure wasn't the US.
I hate it, but we are behind.
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Yea, our networks are behind (and that's not really 100%, we have broader 4G deployment). But we're not behind on software. iPhone was launched here first as was Android. There's no reason that WP7 isn't launched here if not ahead of the rest, at least at the same time. MSFT doesn't even have the Zune store available abroad yet.

Iphone team is here in the US, so are all the iphone leaks.
The Android team is here in the US, Android was a company here in the US before being purchased by Google .
MS teams are all around the world. That's why if you ask a WP7 spoke person about specific parts of the OS, they don't have a clue. Or specific release dates, they don't have a clue.
We're at a point now to where we would have seen a CDMA leak, especially for Sprint.
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vetvito said:
Iphone team is here in the US, so are all the iphone leaks.
The Android team is here in the US, Android was a company here in the US before being purchased by Google .
MS teams are all around the world. That's why if you ask a WP7 spoke person about specific parts of the OS, they don't have a clue. Or specific release dates, they don't have a clue.
We're at a point now to where we would have seen a CDMA leak, especially for Sprint.
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Ummmm MS is 99% in the US. Next largest is a team in India but they mostly did the emulator if I'm not mistaken. If you don't get an answer from a spokesperson it's because they're not allowed to talk about it or they're not a developer or even a technical person so they really don't have any clue about it in general. They very well might not know the release dates because Microsoft doesn't want anything leaked. It's a "need to know" situation. The people that do know sure as hell aren't just going to run around telling people because they don't want to lose their job. Nothing you've said has anything to do with a CDMA device coming/not coming to Sprint at launch. It doesn't even qualify as circumstantial evidence.

Galaxy Nexus Verizon Exclusive

http://smartphones.verizonwireless.com/nexus/
that is all

Lucky es o bees...

malibu_23 said:
Lucky es o bees...
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For real. If Verizon gets this exclusively that'll be garbage.

Great, another outlet to throw away our privacy and give companies more of our information to use and sell, for the convenience of being quickly informed of when we can give them more of our money...

Lmao. I got duped on google nexus register. Samsung is sending advertiesments to me now. But no mention of nexus. The ole bait and switch just for advertising. Even lamer.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

gogoplata1980 said:
For real. If Verizon gets this exclusively that'll be garbage.
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No worries, it will only be for like the first month... Also getting Razr presale emails... Why would I want that over the Nexus? Good luck competing.
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Read it here:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/gala...erizons-website-calls-galaxy-nexus-exclusive/
Being with t-mobile it sucks that some of us will have to wait longer.

Blow me verizon.
There's something incompatible btw the uber-controlling Verizon and the supposedly open dev nexus line.
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I am using a damn Samsung gravity. I sold my sensation for this crap. I am going to get amaze.

I just saw that. YOu know what? F*** google. They claim that they intend to do things differently, but then at the end of the day they sell out to the highest bidder.
I was a serious google fan, but the edges are starting to crack and it is slowly dawning on me that the innovative, fast moving company of the early 2000's is becoming a weighed down hegemony of bean counting MBA's who are starting to only get it right when they get lucky.
Exclusive on the most expensive carrier in the USA. The same carrier that replaced their search engine with Bing on 1/3 of their Android lineup. Not a word of it breathed at their week-late press conference. My own fault for getting my hopes up, I suppose.
I am due for a new phone around December/January and this will afford me the opportunity to take a good long look at what Windows phone has to offer before the Galaxy Nexus is even available to me.

Tarzanman said:
I just saw that. YOu know what? F*** google. They claim that they intend to do things differently, but then at the end of the day they sell out to the highest bidder.
I was a serious google fan, but the edges are starting to crack and it is slowly dawning on me that the innovative, fast moving company of the early 2000's is becoming a weighed down hegemony of bean counting MBA's who are starting to only get it right when they get lucky.
Exclusive on the most expensive carrier in the USA. The same carrier that replaced their search engine with Bing on 1/3 of their Android lineup. Not a word of it breathed at their week-late press conference. My own fault for getting my hopes up, I suppose.
I am due for a new phone around December/January and this will afford me the opportunity to take a good long look at what Windows phone has to offer before the Galaxy Nexus is even available to me.
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Don't feel bad. Just remember one thing. Google is a business company. They don't care about me and you. They support whoever pay more. I am going to get SGS2 or HTC Amaze. I don't have a choice and can't wait longer than the end of nov which is my upgrade time.

i used to be with Tmo but had to switch cause i got stationed in Montana, and now im kinda glad i did, even though I loved the big T

If tmobile is going to get it, they will mention this at the event on Friday. we will see.

Relax. I highly doubt its anything more than a timed exclusive. Both the nexus one and nexus s were only on one carrier originally.
And yes, if you were planning on getting the international one, i'm pretty sure it will still work on AT&T or T-Mo as long as the bands match up.

Well if they're pentaband then you could just buy the world phone model at full price and go. I think it only affects those looking to pick it up on a contract.
It is weird Verizon having a Nexus. Seem to clash together but my work has Verizon so why pay for a personal line?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

Bet you when they are referring to the 'exclusive' Galaxy Nexus they are only talking about the LTE model and all the others will get the pentaband one at pretty much the same time.

Just had a thought... I know it doesn't say it, but... maybe it word play. I mean they will be the exclusive carrier of the LTE version, but remember there's too versions. Hhhuuummmm
Stupid Samsung, why can't you just release carrier info. when you unveil it.
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Damn, beat me to it... we're on the same wave length though.
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Sp4rkR4t said:
Bet you when they are referring to the 'exclusive' Galaxy Nexus they are only talking about the LTE model and all the others will get the pentaband one at pretty much the same time.
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Hopefully you right. I think like you because there is no one point between tmo and vz. It's couple of weeks and we will see.

hanano17 said:
Relax. I highly doubt its anything more than a timed exclusive. Both the nexus one and nexus s were only on one carrier originally.
And yes, if you were planning on getting the international one, i'm pretty sure it will still work on AT&T or T-Mo as long as the bands match up.
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+1
I'm not gonna act like I'm not disappointed they have exclusively, especially since the other Nexus phones started as exclusive to one carrier as well. I wish they would just drop the whole exclusivity thing and make it available to everyone day one as exclusivity only really hurts the consumer. No way I'm switching to Verizon for this phone. I'll either import or wait for the GSM version to hit the US (if it's not that long of a wait). It's really bad for the phone's sales too considering in the world of smartphones, the next big release is always right around the corner and you will lose a lot of potential customers who will get something else because they don't feel like waiting anymore or something else hits the market. The average consumer doesn't know care about the Nexus brand, they care about new and noteworthy so why not try to rope them in while the iron is hot?
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I'm almost certain 7 us carriers are getting the nexus
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Thought this was funny.

Anybody thinks that the delay isn't about pushing the RAZR is crazy.
Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Mya'
Mya: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Scott: Do you have any information regarding the release of the galaxy nexus?
Mya: I do not have any information about that phone but I can help you find another great phone today.
Scott: When I switch to Verizon, I just want the galaxy nexus.
Mya: What do you like about that phone?
Scott: Android 4.0, NFC, direct support from google for software updates, 720p Super AMOLED display, stock android software, LTE.
Mya: Have you considered the Droid RAZR?
Scott: I have not, but I do know what the RAZR is. Verizon pushes the Droid line of phones onto its customers.
Scott: It's Verizon's specific line of Android powered phones so that's what they want to sell the most of.
Mya: Well the RAZR is a great phone to consider. Right now the iPhone is a huge seller but it seems like the RAZR would be a better fit for you.
Scott: Why would the RAZR be a better fit?
Mya: Well it is a better phone over the iPhone. It is Android, it is a 4G LTE phone.
Scott: Have you seen or heard about the galaxy nexus?
Mya: I have not, we do not have any information about that phone.
Scott: I mean do you even know what it is?
Mya: I do know what phone you are referring to I just do not have any information about it but the RAZR does have a 4.3" Super AMOLED advanced display.
Scott: So you have heard about the galaxy nexus. Have you read any of the specs about the galaxy nexus?
Mya: I have not.
Scott: The Galaxy Nexus is superior in every way compared to the RAZR. Verizon must want to just sell the RAZR and not the Nexus.
Mya: Is there anything I can help you with regarding a phone that we currently have or a order?
Scott: If you don't have any information regarding the galaxy nexus, then no.

lol mya....

Lol this just made my morning
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I like how a small delay in the release of a phone causes people to go around harassing customer service reps and radio shack employees.

smot13 said:
I like how a small delay in the release of a phone causes people to go around harassing customer service reps and radio shack employees.
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Small delay? Where have you been, under a rock?

Buy the god damn razr!

spencer88 said:
Small delay? Where have you been, under a rock?
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technically its not that big. I can name at least 5 things that have had longer delays:
1. Droid Bionic
2. Duke Nukem Forever.
3. Arrested Development Movie
4. Chinese Democracy by Guns and Roses.
5. Ghostbusters 3
On topic though, It sucks that they are at least partially delaying this due to the razr.

spencer88 said:
Small delay? Where have you been, under a rock?
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Nope.
The delay has been anywhere from a week to a month depending on what rumors you bought into. A drop in the bucket.

smot13 said:
Nope.
The delay has been anywhere from a week to a month depending on what rumors you bought into. A drop in the bucket.
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Well the phone was unveiled mid october, and it's mid december, and Verizon refuses to even acknowledge it's existence.

spencer88 said:
Small delay? Where have you been, under a rock?
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Verizon never announced a release date...It hasn't even been a full month since the GSM release.

A month is not a large delay in the grand scheme of things.
I find it funny that:
1) You told her you wanted an android phone, so somehow when she tries to tell you about another android phone, the RAZR, it means Verizon is delaying the Nexus for the RAZR?
2) Everyone on this forum knows not to take anything a CSR says without a few thousand grains of salt. And now all of the sudden everything this "online chat rep, Mya", says is true?
Don't get me wrong, I have trolled a handful of CSRs in my time, but using what a CSR says to prove your own theories is just plain stupid.

joshnichols189 said:
A month is not a large delay in the grand scheme of things.
I find it funny that:
1) You told her you wanted an android phone, so somehow when she tries to tell you about another android phone, the RAZR, it means Verizon is delaying the Nexus for the RAZR?
2) Everyone on this forum knows not to take anything a CSR says without a few thousand grains of salt. And now all of the sudden everything this "online chat rep, Mya", says is true?
Don't get me wrong, I have trolled a handful of CSRs in my time, but using what a CSR says to prove your own theories is just plain stupid.
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Must be coincidence too that when I walk into 2 different verizon stores and say I'm looking to switch to verizon, they immediately mention the razr.

spencer88 said:
Must be coincidence too that when I walk into 2 different verizon stores and say I'm looking to switch to verizon, they immediately mention the razr.
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They do that because many of these sales people are on commission and would rather sell you phone that is currently available vs. a phone that might be available next week. Since the Nexus won't be out until a later date you could possibly get it from a different store and that is one less customer for them.
Now I agree that corporate might have partially delayed the phone due to the Razr and Rezound, but I think that that happened before the original projected date of Thanksgiving week. I think the most recent delay (last week) had more to do with the either the 4g outage, or the Google Wallet issue.

spencer88 said:
Must be coincidence too that when I walk into 2 different verizon stores and say I'm looking to switch to verizon, they immediately mention the razr.
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Well obviously, but that doesn't mean they're delaying the nexus for it you are just coming to your own conclusions with no evidence.
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No offense but OP you just sound obnoxious from this conversation. Giving hard time and jeering at a random customer service rep just because your phone is delayed? You could have asked about GN in a more decent way I'm sure.
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While offering a current available phone makes sense... I'm hard pressed to know they don't have some extra incentives for the Razr. Even the Razr vs Rezound. How many times have they pushed the Rezound? Never. They never even mention it unless you specifically ask for it. "Oh yea that phone... its ok"

if u really want the GN now, go with a GSM carrier order it unlocked online...no need to harass/bother CS Reps or Sales Reps..I used to work in the wireless retail industry so I know how it is for those people..Granted I was alot more informed then your average rep because I keep up with tech all the time..many times they do have information about the product before launch but are told explicitly not to say anything to the customer about it..Bottomline if u want the GNex on Verizon just wait patiently.

Of course a VZW Rep is going to push the Droid line. It's their flagship series. Sure, the Rezound is a powerhouse compared to the RAZR, but they know the Droid brand sells like hotcakes, hence the major push. Also, as people have mentioned before, they'd rather try to sell you a phone that's available than a phone that isn't. No need to go harassing reps because of that.
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While offering a current available phone makes sense... I'm hard pressed to know they don't have some extra incentives for the Razr. Even the Razr vs Rezound. How many times have they pushed the Rezound? Never. They never even mention it unless you specifically ask for it. "Oh yea that phone... its ok"
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Last week, I went to a local Verizon store during my lunch break to ask about the status of the GNex. The reps pleaded ignorance and, upon noticing my Sensation 4G, tried to steer me towards a Rezound.

Big red's corporate offices are plastered with Droid RAZR marketing. It's even in the bathrooms! Meanwhile, not one mention of the GN anywhere. The GN must be a small-fry deal for them. There's no marketing campaign. Meanwhile the RAZR continues to get pumped up for holiday sales.
But, I don't think they delayed the GN for the RAZR though. I don't think the GN was ever a threat. If I had to guess, they were getting the baseband right, dealing with battery life issues and a network outage. Quick aside, you don't launch a device during an outage unless you really want to make a horrible first impression and blow up your call centers. No matter what, clearly something didn't go as planned. Retailers are currently sitting on inventory they are embargoed from selling which is something they really don't like to do.

Verizon Galaxy Nexus Update Response

After an e-mail to Verizon to complain about the treatment of the Galaxy Nexus, I actually received a response, so I thought I would share it here. The takeaway is that Verizon lists their policy for updates, blames Samsung and Google, and says there is no update in the works for the next month. Probably makes no difference, but couldn't hurt for everyone to also e-mail a complaint.
I am so sorry to read of your frustrations with Verizon and the lack of updates for the Galaxy Nexus. I definitely understand your annoyance with not getting the updates for it and no information available for the next update. I have a phone that feels like I waited forever to get it updated to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, and it drove me mad that there was not information about when it would be released.
Not only as a company but also as your personal Verizon representative we want to provide you with any and all information. We realize that cell phones have become our lifeline to communication whether it’s through apps, calls, text, or email; and want to match sure that your device has all the software updates to work. I reviewed Verizon Wireless New Software Upgrades to be released this month and there is no indication that there will be an update for the Nexus.
The updates that Verizon provides are for the sole purpose of enhancing the way the phone works and communicates with Verizon towers and network. When a software update is sent out in relation to the operating system, which is done so by the Manufacturer. The plans and action to update the software are done with either Google (Android developer) or my Samsung (User Interface developer).
We absolutely want you to have the most up to date software for your phone and if there is anything we can do to get that to you, we definitely will. Something that you can try to see if there is an update hanging around is going to:
• Settings
• About Phone
• System Updates
We appreciate your loyalty with Verizon Wireless through all these years, and certainly don’t want to see you go. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to go over this information with you.

with the 'leaked' Verizon update from Google's servers, I'm not in that big of a hurry. IMM76K was pulled from Google's servers long before Verizon pushed it. They're obviously working on it since we have a Google url for the jb update and it was sent to a test phone.

They are dicks at Verizon. They don't update phones and a lot of their phones don't function as well as their GSM counterparts. If you want to stay on their network you are going to have to deal with their garbage. You will never have a full Android experience on Verizon.
Going GSM unlocked was the best mobile decision I ever made. I am saving about $400 per year, I get updates and I am not locked to a carrier or its BS.
Straight Talk Sim Att may not have as good a network as Verizon, but its pretty darn close. Way worth it for me.
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All I have to say is LOL!!!! Glad I did the 4.1.1 leak when it came out. I am starting to have flashbacks to my days with the Droid X. Luckily this is a Nexus and I have more control of my phone.

Having worked as a customer service rep for a tech company, this letter is what they trained us to do.
Step 1 - show you understand the customers complaint by repeating it back to them.
Step 2 - show the customer empathy by telling them you've faced a similar issue and can understand their frustration.
Step 3 - politely let the customer know we as a company care about them and want to resolve their issue. If the issue can be resolved, resolve it. If it can not be resolved explain to them we are working on said issue and it is not the fault of the company but some other company/factor.
Step 4 - thank the customer for their feedback. Let them know they've been heard and are a valued customer.
Step 5 - ask if there is anything else you can do for them. And wish them a nice day.
You can now all work in customer service.
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Its funny cause Verizon doesn't update this phone. Stop blaming them.
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Smokeey said:
Its funny cause Verizon doesn't update this phone. Stop blaming them.
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Curious where you get that as an absolute...
Google says Verizon does control when it pushes
Verizon says Google has absolute control of it
Seems someone is fibbing, and Verizon has a worse track record...

I'm sorry but just root your phone.
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DSinfinite said:
I'm sorry but just root your phone.
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There are reasons that some of us can't root our phones and still use them with corporate networks.

amaddux said:
There are reasons that some of us can't root our phones and still use them with corporate networks.
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That's one reason.
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Hate to break it to you guys, but Verizon will never be able to (or try to) update its phones as quickly as the update that comes directly from google to the GSM models. Sorry, but that's just how it's going to be. This isn't some big revelation. If you buy any Verizon device expecting hasty updates, you're sadly going to be disappointed. I'm really tired of people complaining about this at this point.
Also, do you really expect some random CS rep at Verizon to give you a different response than the standard corporate line that you've been fed over and over again? I mean really, cmon guys. You're just grasping at nothing at this point.

Root your phone. Install jellybean. Good to go. If you want something go get it and do it yourself. Also new radios are out.
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martonikaj said:
Hate to break it to you guys, but Verizon will never be able to (or try to) update its phones as quickly as the update that comes directly from google to the GSM models. Sorry, but that's just how it's going to be. This isn't some big revelation. If you buy any Verizon device expecting hasty updates, you're sadly going to be disappointed. I'm really tired of people complaining about this at this point.
Also, do you really expect some random CS rep at Verizon to give you a different response than the standard corporate line that you've been fed over and over again? I mean really, cmon guys. You're just grasping at nothing at this point.
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Turns the iPhone is updated on Verizon with the rest of the iPhones. Even the LTE iPad is updated with the rest of the Apple products. So, possible yes, likely for anything else, probably not.
Nope, I got most of the result I expected from the Verizon rep and was just surprised at his exact words. I also thought it would be useful to share with other Verizon users that it doesn't appear to be coming in the next month either. I am actually sorry for positing it though. I thought I was sharing something useful. Clearly, I'm the only one that thought it was useful.
Again, rooting my phone does not work for me. I use two apps that check for root and do not work if rooted. One for work (no you can't use an app that hides root from it, that does not work) and one from my cable company. I have rooted an android phone in the past, and I know how to flash a phone. I know its asking a lot, but please do not post rooting as the answer again in this thread.

You just gotta drop Verizon. They are a joke. There phones are damaged and outdated before they even come out.
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The Verizon Nexus will get every update that the GSM model has coming to it (as long as Google doesn't push an update that is solely meant for the GSM model)
You just have to wait a little longer.
That's the way it works. And in my opinion, it's a decent compromise to make vs the GSM model. With the LTE Nexus, you get the extra 16GB of internal storage, LTE data speeds, and the fact that you're on probably the best network in terms of voice coverage.
And being a Google supported and updated Nexus device, you will get all the updates you have coming to you (until Google decides to stop pushing them, ala the Nexus One).
It might take 3 weeks. It might take 3 months. But you'll get them. The traditional method of device updates, where the carrier requests an update from the OEM, the OEM builds a new version of Android for the device, customizes it with their own UI, adds their apps, tests it, sends it to the carrier where they add their own network and bloatware apps, tests it, sends it back to the OEM for additional testing...doesn't apply.
Keep in mind that updates for other devices are also only updated if the carrier feels it's worth the time and money, as usually they have to pay the OEM for the update. If a device sells poorly, or if the carrier just has a policy where they won't request major updates after a set period of time regardless if the international versions of the device are well updated....you won't be getting an update. This is one of T-Mobile's business practices and why I left them after being a customer since their very beginning. The Samsung Vibrant I had was the only Galaxy S device in the world to never be updated to Gingerbread, and that's because only 5 months after the phone came out, they re-released it with a front facing camera and support for their 42Mbps network. Those were the only two changes as it was the same exact phone otherwise. After 8 months of the Vibrant's release, it was EOLed and never went past Froyo.
Look, Verizon so far as had two devices that Google is in charge of updating direct from AOSP...the Xoom and the Galaxy Nexus. The Xoom had gotten every single incremental Honeycomb update that the WiFi model received. It got ICS, albeit after a bit of a delay. The LTE Nexus, mind you, was the first to get 4.0.2 right out of the gate, and it also received 4.0.4, after a bit of a delay as well. Looking at it another way, both the LTE Xoom (which didn't sell very well) and the GNex have already gotten more updates than most devices do in their typical 2-year lifespan.
Looking at it objectively, all things considering, it's really not as bad as people are making it out to be. It's not like the carrier is refusing to keep the device updated. It's not like the OEM has to go through hoops to keep the device updated. Both devices are and will continue to be extremely well-supported by Google. You just have to wait a little longer than their GSM counterparts. And also keep in mind, official Google builds of both devices get leaked early all of the time. So, there's that.

Not to be a Negative Nancy, but LTE cuts your battery life in half, makes the phone thicker, and so far the LTE Nexus is 2 months behind the actual "Nexus". I wouldn't count on an update being in Verizons immediate plans. They could care less. And how many LTE Nexi have been sent back because of broken parts compared to the Google Play one. I learned to love Android again after I left Verizon, because they were ruining the entire experience for me.
Verizon does have its merits, but they are not worth all crap you have to go through with them. Verizon has the best coverage no doubt about it, but ST-Att coverage is still pretty good, just a little slower. I have had 1 dropped call and 1 data drop out in farm country in past 4 months. There is absolutely no reason to choose Verizon unless it is the absolute last and only choice one has for a mobile provider, which is probably only about 5% of the people in the country.

amaddux said:
Curious where you get that as an absolute...
Google says Verizon does control when it pushes
Verizon says Google has absolute control of it
Seems someone is fibbing, and Verizon has a worse track record...
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Absolute? You obviously haven't seen the OTA links then. You must be new.
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stelv said:
Not to be a Negative Nancy, but LTE cuts your battery life in half, makes the phone thicker, and so far the LTE Nexus is 2 months behind the actual "Nexus". I wouldn't count on an update being in Verizons immediate plans. They could care less. And how many LTE Nexi have been sent back because of broken parts compared to the Google Play one. I learned to love Android again after I left Verizon, because they were ruining the entire experience for me.
Verizon does have its merits, but they are not worth all crap you have to go through with them. Verizon has the best coverage no doubt about it, but ST-Att coverage is still pretty good, just a little slower. I have had 1 dropped call and 1 data drop out in farm country in past 4 months. There is absolutely no reason to choose Verizon unless it is the absolute last and only choice one has for a mobile provider, which is probably only about 5% of the people in the country.
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LTE does not cut your battery life "In half". That's a lie, or an opinion, either way it's wrong. On average (From what I have read) GSM GNexus users get around 3 1/2 hours of screen on usage, while I get about 3 with my LTE GNexus on Verizon. We could do more tests, but I bet you would rather just bash it some more.
I believe both GSM and LTE Nexus have both had a plethora of issues, to point out one but not the other is silly.
Android is the same on either phone, stock Android. It didn't change when you switched over.
I have never had a dropped call on my Gnexus (Had it since December), and only 1 or 2 data drops.
Verizon offers me unlimited data, at 20mb down, and 10mb up for $45. They have coverage damn near everywhere I go, and have always given me great customer service. Of all the bad things I have heard about the other three, I am glad to be on Verizon and have the chance to own a Nexus device through them, and I hope they offer another as I will be more than happy to buy that one too.
Sorry to hijack a bit OP but got tired of the baseless bashing.

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LTE does not cut your battery life "In half". That's a lie, or an opinion, either way it's wrong. On average (From what I have read) GSM GNexus users get around 3 1/2 hours of screen on usage, while I get about 3 with my LTE GNexus on Verizon. We could do more tests, but I bet you would rather just bash it some more.
I believe both GSM and LTE Nexus have both had a plethora of issues, to point out one but not the other is silly.
Android is the same on either phone, stock Android. It didn't change when you switched over.
I have never had a dropped call on my Gnexus (Had it since December), and only 1 or 2 data drops.
Verizon offers me unlimited data, at 20mb down, and 10mb up for $45. They have coverage damn near everywhere I go, and have always given me great customer service. Of all the bad things I have heard about the other three, I am glad to be on Verizon and have the chance to own a Nexus device through them, and I hope they offer another as I will be more than happy to buy that one too.
Sorry to hijack a bit OP but got tired of the baseless bashing.
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Ok I guess I was misinformed about the battery. Didn't know you could get 3 hrs screen on time. We can get more like 4 on GSM. The GSM Nexus doesn't have a plethora of issues, just yellow screen and horrible camera that all Nexi have. Android is not the same on the VZW one because the GSM one is on a newer version and is updated. Granted, wonderful things can be done with root. One selling point of a Nexus is speedy updates, and the VZW doesn't get them.
20mb down is great but most people have to use tiered data on Verizon's now, so that means nothing. And I pay $45 total for unlimited everything (2-3gbs data) on Atts network with Straight Talk, Not $90-$100 for cell service bound to a 2 year contract.
I am not trying to start an argument. I am just trying to let people know that there are much much better options out there than contracts and Verizon, even if Verizon tries to trick you into believing that they are the only "reliable" network or option.

Verizon also has had huge problems with the newer batch of nexus phones they put out. We get tons at work with signal cutting out on them. Verizon probably is trying to fix that before an update or then people will be really mad if it doesn't fix the signal issue.
All in all its Verizon trying to cover themselves as long as they possibly can.
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I think Google's Oct 29th event tagline "the playground is open" secretly means...

I think Google's Oct 29th event tagline "the playground is open" secretly means...
That we are going to see several Nexus devices on October 29th.
Think about it. There used to be only one big kid on the block, aka the Galaxy Nexus, but now, every manufacturer can come and play.
I think we will see at least 4 different devices that day from Sony, Samsung, LG, and maybe one or two more.

I hope its not just LG. I don't think I'd buy an LG handset. Even Samsung are not known for their quality control, but LG are even worse.
Personally, I'd hope for a Sony and HTC Nexus. A Sony Nexus with the looks of the current Xperia range, or HTCs with the looks of the One X would be great

tameracingdriver said:
I hope its not just LG. I don't think I'd buy an LG handset. Even Samsung are not known for their quality control, but LG are even worse.
Personally, I'd hope for a Sony and HTC Nexus. A Sony Nexus with the looks of the current Xperia range, or HTCs with the looks of the One X would be great
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This...
Especially the One X look without capacitive buttons. Oh god

They've been using that tagline for quite a while now. It refers to the Nexus platform being OPEN. Not multiple Nexus devices.
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If there are multiple devices I want one with cdma and lte to work on Verizon, wold threw the play store. Ahh I love dreaming
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Smokeey said:
They've been using that tagline for quite a while now. It refers to the Nexus platform being OPEN. Not multiple Nexus devices.
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Exactly..

This announcement doesn't mean much to me, I'm leaving Verzion in a year and a half when my contract goes, no upgrade prices for me, not paying an ETF, so I'm just watching by.

CGfreak102 said:
If there are multiple devices I want one with cdma and lte to work on Verizon, wold threw the play store. Ahh I love dreaming
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CDMA - nasty. Kill that technology with fire and kill it fast.
All future Nexus phones should be strictly GSM (LTE is part of this family, so that's fine) but CDMA is terrible. VZW and Sprint gumming up the release of 4.1 is in stark contrast to the whole point of the Nexus line. Google has clearly been in bed with VZW a while now and owning Motorola has furthered that.
Google should focus on Tmobile and such, especially given they launched Android here in the USA. I really really wish they would advertise the Nexus devices more. I get it's a developer phone and to showcase their latest and greatest software, but Google's an advertising company! Spend some cash, sell unlocked phones, push the idea of prepaid being exactly the same as postpaid in almost all respects and get rid of this carrier 2 year contract crap. I know they thought the Nexus One would do this, but the lack of customer support and advertising made sure that wouldn't happen.
I think this would tie in very nicely with opening the playground to multiple phone makers. Shows the advantages of choice, shows unlocked is how it should be, shows you picking a plan seperate from the phone is how it should be, etc.

I Am Marino said:
This announcement doesn't mean much to me, I'm leaving Verzion in a year and a half when my contract goes, no upgrade prices for me, not paying an ETF, so I'm just watching by.
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You and me both.

Morphling27 said:
CDMA - nasty. Kill that technology with fire and kill it fast.
All future Nexus phones should be strictly GSM (LTE is part of this family, so that's fine) but CDMA is terrible. VZW and Sprint gumming up the release of 4.1 is in stark contrast to the whole point of the Nexus line. Google has clearly been in bed with VZW a while now and owning Motorola has furthered that.
Google should focus on Tmobile and such, especially given they launched Android here in the USA. I really really wish they would advertise the Nexus devices more. I get it's a developer phone and to showcase their latest and greatest software, but Google's an advertising company! Spend some cash, sell unlocked phones, push the idea of prepaid being exactly the same as postpaid in almost all respects and get rid of this carrier 2 year contract crap. I know they thought the Nexus One would do this, but the lack of customer support and advertising made sure that wouldn't happen.
I think this would tie in very nicely with opening the playground to multiple phone makers. Shows the advantages of choice, shows unlocked is how it should be, shows you picking a plan seperate from the phone is how it should be, etc.
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CDMA is not a bad technology, read up on it sometime. That said, it was the carriers that screwed things up, not CDMA itself.
I think carrier loyalty is utterly retarded.
Tmo launched Android, who cares? Should other carrier customers suffer because of a device being Tmo specific? Tmo BARELY works out here once you hit the outskirts of town. That isn't the customer's fault. Therefore, other carriers are preferable.
What needs to happen is that the phones get sold unsubsidized (and without the BS markup) for all carriers, not just some.

Smokeey said:
They've been using that tagline for quite a while now. It refers to the Nexus platform being OPEN. Not multiple Nexus devices.
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This, if I remember correctly they started using this when the new "Play Store" came out.

Kyocera or GTFO.

CMNein said:
Kyocera or GTFO.
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This.

I disagree with the nexus phones should subsidized by all carriers.
They should be sold completely unlocked and full price from Google directly. Screw the carriers. Avoid their 2 year contracts like the plague. Carriers should have nothing to do with these phones at all as far as I am concerned.

albundy2010 said:
I disagree with the nexus phones should subsidized by all carriers.
They should be sold completely unlocked and full price from Google directly. Screw the carriers. Avoid their 2 year contracts like the plague. Carriers should have nothing to do with these phones at all as far as I am concerned.
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Thats not what I said.
adrynalyne said:
CDMA is not a bad technology, read up on it sometime. That said, it was the carriers that screwed things up, not CDMA itself.
I think carrier loyalty is utterly retarded.
Tmo launched Android, who cares? Should other carrier customers suffer because of a device being Tmo specific? Tmo BARELY works out here once you hit the outskirts of town. That isn't the customer's fault. Therefore, other carriers are preferable.
What needs to happen is that the phones get sold unsubsidized (and without the BS markup) for all carriers, not just some.
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tameracingdriver said:
I hope its not just LG. I don't think I'd buy an LG handset. Even Samsung are not known for their quality control, but LG are even worse.
Personally, I'd hope for a Sony and HTC Nexus. A Sony Nexus with the looks of the current Xperia range, or HTCs with the looks of the One X would be great
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I've never had an LG smartphone, but from what i've heard, the build quality is usually excellent. The software is LG's big problem, but as a Nexus, that problem doesn't exist.

Just because Apple puts clever messages in their invitations doesn't mean Google does too.
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Yeah my bad. It was approaching my nap time and I misread that obviously.

albundy2010 said:
Yeah my bad. It was approaching my nap time and I misread that obviously.
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All good